#01 - 01/08/09 - Stenhousemuir (a) - League Cup

[101 Saint]

Time to start the countdown.

I'm hoping for any victory. Ideally we'll show more clinical finishing and less rookie mistakes in the wide areas. Stenny have nowt to lose and everything to gain so the pressure is on us to deliver.

Team lines will be similar (if not identical) to Glenavon. Assuming Jody is fine, he'll start ahead of his deputy, Mr Sheerin

Main
Irvine-Rusty-Caff-Grainger
Millar-Hards-Morris-Morais
Savo-Deuchar

Subs: Smith, Gartland, Sheerin, Davidson, Sammy

I cannae wait...

[YHallSaint]

I like the look of this squad

[Kyle]

Swap Millar with Davidson, and that's the 11 I'd like to see us going with. As long as we win, and the side looking fitter than this time last year, and I don't think we can ask for too much more. Very excited already and we're still a week away!

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Time to start the countdown.

I'm hoping for any victory. Ideally we'll show more clinical finishing and less rookie mistakes in the wide areas. Stenny have nowt to lose and everything to gain so the pressure is on us to deliver.

Team lines will be similar (if not identical) to Glenavon. Assuming Jody is fine, he'll start ahead of his deputy, Mr Sheerin

Main
Irvine-Rusty-Caff-Grainger
Millar-Hards-Morris-Morais
Savo-Deuchar

Subs: Smith, Gartland, Sheerin, Davidson, Sammy

I cannae wait...

No Liam Craig in your 18 ??? No Swankie??? ( I suppose they all can't get a game..) I quite like that squad though, but I would have Sammy on from the start and Savo on the bench. It really depends who's fit and who's not and if we sign Morais..I'll have a look at it later in the week...

is it not 7 subs including 3 under 21???

[Kyle]

Na the cup games are 5 subs, so it's going to be hardlines on the players that miss out.

It's a thing of beauty having as strong a squad as we do... You can swap it all around and the squad will still look just as strong

[101 Saint]

No Liam Craig in your 18 ??? No Swankie??? ( I suppose they all can't get a game..)

Just to clarify, I think that's what Del will choose. My selection would differ:wink:

[Sainteesean]

Swap Millar with Davidson, and that's the 11 I'd like to see us going with. As long as we win, and the side looking fitter than this time last year, and I don't think we can ask for too much more. Very excited already and we're still a week away!

is davidson suited to the right mid position? is he not more of a CM?

its a headache trying to sort out what team we will put out. good luck to del and mon the saints :laugh::)

season starts now!

[blueheaven]

I'll be amazed if Craig is completely left out, and I also very much doubt Davidson is being viewed as a wide player. I reckon Del's team (assuming people are fit) will be something like...

___________Main__________
Irvine_____Ruti__Caff___Grainger
Morais__Davidson__Morris__Craig
_______Savo__Dr Goals

[Widge]

It is good to have Craig available to play left mid, we lacked a hell of a lot of width, so I would reckon he is almost assured a palce.

[541ntees]

i'm not even going to attempt to name the team or formation all i know is our squad is so strong i'll be happy with whatever team Del puts out!

Hopefully this time next week our long unbeaten run will begin for season 09/10, i was moaning we got put into the draw (still dont understand that one) but now i can't wait-never been so excited about a trip to Ochilview

[101 Saint]

It is good to have Craig available to play left mid, we lacked a hell of a lot of width, so I would reckon he is almost assured a palce.

He's not a left sided player, he's a left footed central midfielder.

[Kyle]

is davidson suited to the right mid position? is he not more of a CM?

its a headache trying to sort out what team we will put out. good luck to del and mon the saints :laugh::)

season starts now!

I think if Morais plays we'll play more of 4-3-1-2, with Davidson on the right hand side of the 3. If he's being used as an out and out winger then I'd say your correct. He might do ok on the right, but I believe he's much more natural in the centre.

[Chansey]

___________Main__________
Irvine_____Ruti__Caff___Grainger
Morais__Davidson__Morris__Craig
_______Savo__Dr Goals

Thats the squad I'd go with.

[dan loves saints]

___________Main__________
Irvine_____Ruti__Caff___Grainger
Morais__Davidson__Morris__Craig
_______Savo__Dr Goals

I would go with this team aswell.

[sjfcsean]

I would go with this team aswell.

Same.

[Mike180279]

Time to start the countdown.

I'm hoping for any victory. Ideally we'll show more clinical finishing and less rookie mistakes in the wide areas. Stenny have nowt to lose and everything to gain so the pressure is on us to deliver.

Team lines will be similar (if not identical) to Glenavon. Assuming Jody is fine, he'll start ahead of his deputy, Mr Sheerin

Main
Irvine-Rusty-Caff-Grainger
Millar-Hards-Morris-Morais
Savo-Deuchar

Subs: Smith, Gartland, Sheerin, Davidson, Sammy

I cannae wait...I would go;

Main
Irvine-Rusty-Caff-Grainger
Millar-Craig-Morris-Swankie
Sammy-Deuchar

Subs: Smith, Gartland, Sheerin, Savo, Morais

[541ntees]

I'll be amazed if Craig is completely left out, and I also very much doubt Davidson is being viewed as a wide player. I reckon Del's team (assuming people are fit) will be something like...

___________Main__________
Irvine_____Ruti__Caff___Grainger
Morais__Davidson__Morris__Craig
_______Savo__Dr Goals

ive not been to any pre season games yet but has felipe played right mid in any of the games? i only seem to read he's played behind front 2 or in front 3?

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

I would go;

Main
Irvine-Rusty-Caff-Grainger
Millar-Craig-Morris-Swankie
Sammy-Deuchar

Subs: Smith, Gartland, Sheerin, Savo, Morais

You gotta have Davidson in there Mike.. Having seen him twice so far, I think the boys the real deal.. no idea who would make way for him though.. The defence and the attack are straight forward enough to pick but the midfield is a fecking nightmare...

Millar, Craig, Hardie, Sheerin, Morais (maybe) Swankie,Morris, Davidson, Moon,

9 players, all of whom could do the job..

We seem a bit short of bodies in defence though which is more worrying...Irvine,Rusty,Caff,Grainger,Anderson and Gartland.. Only takes two injuries/suspensions and we are in deep shite at the back with only the young lads ( Sullivan and Lindsay) as cover..( I just remembered Hairy Pie Dave MacKay so maybe I am probably worrying over nothing)..

[YELLOW ARMY]

not been to stenhousemuir brefore so it should be a good trip

[Sainteesean]

We seem a bit short of bodies in defence though which is more worrying...Irvine,Rusty,Caff,Grainger,Anderson and Gartland.. Only takes two injuries/suspensions and we are in deep shite at the back with only the young lads ( Sullivan and Lindsay) as cover..( I just remembered Hairy Pie Dave MacKay so maybe I am probably worrying over nothing)..

remember we might also be getting this young wolves boy on loan

[StansTheMan]

I'll be amazed if Craig is completely left out, and I also very much doubt Davidson is being viewed as a wide player. I reckon Del's team (assuming people are fit) will be something like...

___________Main__________
Irvine_____Ruti__Caff___Grainger
Morais__Davidson__Morris__Craig
_______Savo__Dr Goals

Same squad for me. I genuinly cant wait for this season to kick off and see us back with the big boys, this week cant go quick enough!

[CynicalSaintee]

Cynical Saintee's Dream Team

---------------------------Alzo-----------------------
------------------Gaz-Rusty-McCaff-Danger------------
The Grumpy Portuguese-Mooner-Wee Radge-Gingerinho--
---------------------Sammy----Savo-------------------

Bench: The Good Doctor; Jacko; Midge; Atilla; Ando

Solid as a rock defense, a midfield with both grunt and flair, and a strikerforce that'll rip Stenny a new backside. Happy days!

[blueheaven]

ive not been to any pre season games yet but has felipe played right mid in any of the games? i only seem to read he's played behind front 2 or in front 3?

He played on the right wing against Rushden & Diamonds. I reckon though that he's being viewed for more than one position, depending on the opposition/tactics, and could easily be seen playing on either wing, behind the strikers or as a striker himself. Also, I think we should probably bear in mind that Del hasn't really been one to stick with a settled team since he's arrived: I reckon we'll see quite a bit of tweaking with line-ups, formations and players' positions this season. Not sure I agree that that's a good thing, but it certainly seems to be Del's favoured approach.

[Bertrand]

Main
Irvine Caff Rusty Grainger
Morais Jody Davidson Craig
Dr Goals Savo

Unsure about who to play alongside jody, Davison's looked alright - Not hardie anyway i dont think he's SPL class, but Craig is one of the first picks IMO

[NUSaintee]

Main
Irvine Caff Rusty Grainger
Morais Jody Davidson Craig
Dr Goals Savo

Unsure about who to play alongside jody, Davison's looked alright - Not hardie anyway i dont think he's SPL class, but Craig is one of the first picks IMO

Not seen Davidson yet, but I've not seen any bad comments about him. For that reason, I would go with this team as well.

Need to see him with my own eyes before I say he deserves a place ahead of Hardie, who I believe IS SPL class. If Davidson IS better, I will hold my hands and say I was wrong!

[saintj]

if davidson is playing lets not waste him on the right like millar was

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Dunkeld road Saints club is running a bus to Stenny...I don't know what time it's leaving or how much it is. I spoke to Jimmy McCleish at the fanfest who confirmed this.

For More Information Contact 01738 442022. Book early to avoid disappointment.

[THE LARK SAINT]

Dunkeld road Saints club is running a bus to Stenny...I don't know what time it's leaving or how much it is. I spoke to Jimmy McCleish at the fanfest who confirmed this.

For More Information Contact 01738 442022. Book early to avoid disappointment.

Bus leaves club at 1PM £8 for members and £10 for non members, cant confirm cost of membership untill after Thursdays (30/07 09) Travel club A.G.M (7PM in the club) see also muirton club section!! and as the ghost says , contact above number!!

[CynicalSaintee]

Who is Davidson really going to replace in midfield? Morris? No way. Moon? I doubt it. Morais? Nope. I suspect Morais will play wide left, Davidson wide right, Moon and Morris in the middle. If not that then 4-3-3 with Moon, Morris and Davidson all in the centre, Morais right wing and maybe Swanks left wing, with Savo up front?

[Reignman]

I've not been able to catch any preseason game as yet but my team for Stenny would be:

Main
Irvine Dinky Caff Danger
Morais Morris Craig Samuel
Savo Deuchar

Smith, Mackay, Davidson, Sheerin, Millar

We all seem to be fairly agreed on the front 2 and back 5 especially picks itself. Wouldn't be my team every week but against weaker opposition at this stage we should be giving the 'luxury' players (Samuel & Morais, if he signs) a good run out to create lots of chances for the strikers and hopefully get them a goal each to set them up nicely for the season. There will be plenty of times this season where we'll need a bit more of a solid midfield so we should be giving these guys a game when we can.

[The Inspiration]

i think will be..

................Main.................
..Irvine..Rusty..Garts..Grainger..
.......Muzz..Morris..Craig...........
.........Morais...Samuel............
...............Deuchar........

iv got a funny feeling that del favours a rusty/garts pairing after watching recent friendlies. he seems a big fan of this 4-3-3 system as well and I wouldnt mind seeing us play this way to see how it works for us in a competitive fixture

[541ntees]

Who is Davidson really going to replace in midfield? Morris? No way. Moon? I doubt it. Morais? Nope. I suspect Morais will play wide left, Davidson wide right, Moon and Morris in the middle. If not that then 4-3-3 with Moon, Morris and Davidson all in the centre, Morais right wing and maybe Swanks left wing, with Savo up front?

with moon staying back with jacko an peaso then there's no chance of him making the bench against stenny. im not sure what stage these3 are at but miles behind the guys who have had a full pre season.

[CynicalSaintee]

with moon staying back with jacko an peaso then there's no chance of him making the bench against stenny. im not sure what stage these3 are at but miles behind the guys who have had a full pre season.

Good point, hadn't considered that. Looks like Moon out, Davidson in, then...

[Radford 72]

remember we might also be getting this young wolves boy on loan
McInnes has said he's never even heard of Scott Malone!

I guess tomorrow night might have some sort of bearing on things but whilst I don't think McInnes will yet know his strongest side, we are much further on than we were this time last season, when I doubt any of us could have been confident about naming two or three of the side.

I've only seen him once (and the highlights from Ayr) but I was quite impressed by Graeme Smith. He didn't have a lot to do against Distillery but looked confident. Evening Telegraph (http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/output/2009/07/27/story13520492t0.shtm) tonight has him down as having a thigh strain though.

I think the full backs pick themselves at the moment but not sure which way he'll go with the centre backs. He's given Gartland a lot of football pre-season.

Midfield is tough to call as well. You'd think Morris will play (if fit) and I still think Murray Davidson could end up as one of our best players next season. Morais will start too so then probably Craig and Millar fighting over the last space.

He's tended to pair Deuchar and Milne together a lot, so it would maybe seem strange to break that up if he's going to play 4-4-2. Of course if he wants to play 4-3-3 then Swankie maybe comes into the reckoning and Samuel would probably be the main striker.

Looking forward to the game though and hopeful that McInnes will pick a side capable of doing the job. I've no idea if there is an U21 rule in the Co-Op Cup but if there is then one of the U19s will need to join Murray Davidson in the squad.

[101 Saint]

I've only seen him once (and the highlights from Ayr) but I was quite impressed by Graeme Smith. He didn't have a lot to do against Distillery but looked confident. Evening Telegraph (http://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/output/2009/07/27/story13520492t0.shtm) tonight has him down as having a thigh strain though.

Yeah, I'm thrilled to announce that I was wrong about him. He looks okay. Certainly not good enough to start, but arguably good enough to replace Alzo in due course.

I think the full backs pick themselves at the moment but not sure which way he'll go with the centre backs. He's given Gartland a lot of football pre-season.
I'm awfy worried that he tries to play Rusty and Garters together, it hussnae worked, it winnae work.

Ando and Garters would be my pick, but we all know that won't happen. Caff certainly brought calm to Rusty, Garters doesn't. The thing about centre-backs is that the total product is more important that the sum of the parts. It has to be one from Garts and Rusty. I hope Del understands this.

Given that he has introduced the Captains armband (following many moans from me!), he can't drop Rusty, which is a worry given his pre-season form...

At St Andrews and Ayr, Garts was taking charge at set-pieces (Morris was helping at Ayr) while Rusty became Mr Silent. Was it the same in Ireland?
Midfield is tough to call as well. You'd think Morris will play (if fit) and I still think Murray Davidson could end up as one of our best players next season. Morais will start too so then probably Craig and Millar fighting over the last space.
*cough*Hards

[101 Saint]

From the Fishal Site (http://www.perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/newsitemsdetail.php?param=445), “We must get that competitive edge for this Saturday and I am mindful of the fact that Stenhousemuir’s season got underway last Saturday and our first SPL opponents Motherwell already have four European matches under their belt. We can’t afford to get caught out by a lack of sharpness.”

Sound like Del shares my concern...

[Mike180279]

From the Fishal Site (http://www.perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/newsitemsdetail.php?param=445), “We must get that competitive edge for this Saturday and I am mindful of the fact that Stenhousemuir’s season got underway last Saturday and our first SPL opponents Motherwell already have four European matches under their belt. We can’t afford to get caught out by a lack of sharpness.”

Sound like Del shares my concern...We'll still thump them though! :wink:

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Yeah, I'm thrilled to announce that I was wrong about him. He looks okay. Certainly not good enough to start, but arguably good enough to replace Alzo in due course.


I'm awfy worried that he tries to play Rusty and Garters together, it hussnae worked, it winnae work.

Ando and Garters would be my pick, but we all know that won't happen. Caff certainly brought calm to Rusty, Garters doesn't. The thing about centre-backs is that the total product is more important that the sum of the parts. It has to be one from Garts and Rusty. I hope Del understands this.

Given that he has introduced the Captains armband (following many moans from me!), he can't drop Rusty, which is a worry given his pre-season form...

At St Andrews and Ayr, Garts was taking charge at set-pieces (Morris was helping at Ayr) while Rusty became Mr Silent. Was it the same in Ireland?

*cough*Hards

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[McSaint]

I dont want to just try and pick a list of the players I want to see play against Stenny. Be honest, most folk just skim over peoples team selections and consider their own.

Thing is, we could almost make 2 complete teams. One built of consistent if unspectacular performers and one built of impact players who really shine, if they shine. It'll be interesting to see the mix of these players in the cup game.

[Chansey]

Managed to shuffle my shifts around at work, so will now be there. Canny wait, and get to tick another ground off the list.

Am I right in thinking Ochilview has the synthetic surface?

[sjfcsean]

Am I right in thinking Ochilview has the synthetic surface?

Yeah I played there about a year ago and they did. Not sure if they still do though.

[stanley saint]

as long as we score some goals against a weaker team. would anyone start graeme smith in goal.....

[Mike180279]

as long as we score some goals against a weaker team. would anyone start graeme smith in goal.....no. Just think, nothing silly just nice steady start is needed.

[The Real Saints]

Loking forward to visiting Ochilview again. It feels like years since I last witnessed competitive football, and I'm raring to go, as I hope the players also are.

Main

Irvine McCaffrey Gartland Grainger

Morais Davidson Morris Craig

Samuel Deuchar

Subs: Smith, MacKay, Swankie/Moon, Sheerin, Milne

[tony_polster]

Loking forward to visiting Ochilview again. It feels like years since I last witnessed competitive football, and I'm raring to go, as I hope the players also are.

Main

Irvine McCaffrey Gartland Grainger

Morais Davidson Morris Craig

Samuel Deuchar

Subs: Smith, MacKay, Swankie/Moon, Sheerin, Milne

Is Rusti def out then?

[stanley saint]

no. Just think, nothing silly just nice steady start is needed.

fair point, would it not be a decent game for him to get a good start against a weaker team

[The Real Saints]

Is Rusti def out then?

Unfortunately, yes.

[NeilSJFC]

Main
Irvine McCaff Gartland Grainger
Morias Moon Davidson Craig
Savo Deuchar

May as well play the full strength team with the big kick-off still two weeks away. Obviously Morris and Ruti out and I'd have Moon and Gartland in instead. To be honest Moon could be replaced by Millar, Hardie or Sheerin but I would imagine Davidson will start based on what I have seen in the couple of games I have seen. Cant understand people leaving our top scorer from last season out though! Surely Savo and A.N Other will be the starters up-top?

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Main
Irvine McCaff Gartland Grainger
Morias Moon Davidson Craig
Savo Deuchar

May as well play the full strength team with the big kick-off still two weeks away. Obviously Morris and Ruti out and I'd have Moon and Gartland in instead. To be honest Moon could be replaced by Millar, Hardie or Sheerin but I would imagine Davidson will start based on what I have seen in the couple of games I have seen. Cant understand people leaving our top scorer from last season out though! Surely Savo and A.N Other will be the starters up-top?

Have I missed something..Why is Morris out???

[NeilSJFC]

Have I missed something..Why is Morris out???

Seems to been said that he wont be risked due to the astro pitch. Otherwise, id have him in for Moon

[Chansey]

Seems to been said that he wont be risked due to the astro pitch. Otherwise, id have him in for Moon

I was only assuming that on the other thread,after Morris and Savo weren't risked in a cup tie last season. I can't recall who it was against.

[R_mac]

[QUOTE=NeilSJFC;236327]Main
Irvine McCaff Gartland Grainger
Morias Moon Davidson Craig
Savo Deuchar
/QUOTE]

agree with ur team however, i'd personally have sheerin playing along with another centre mid player- we seem to player better with him in the team: Picking the centre mid pair is so hard now!!!! Anyone from sheerin, millar, morris, moon, hardie & davidson (thought he played right wing tho??) can do the job there.

[duncan08]

Yeah I played there about a year ago and they did. Not sure if they still do though.
Yeah. Played there end of last season and it was still perfectly plastic. :)

I was only assuming that on the other thread,after Morris and Savo weren't risked in a cup tie last season. I can't recall who it was against.

Probably Stenny?

[saintj]

I was only assuming that on the other thread,after Morris and Savo weren't risked in a cup tie last season. I can't recall who it was against.
was savo not suspended after been sent off in a reserve match?

[Chansey]

was savo not suspended after been sent off in a reserve match?

I distinctly remember Del stating he wasn't willing to risk Jody, Savo, and it may also have been Rusty due to injuries they had previously had. Knee injuries possibly.

[saintj]

I distinctly remember Del stating he wasn't willing to risk Jody, Savo, and it may also have been Rusty due to injuries they had previously had. Knee injuries possibly.
ok. i just remember him being suspended at some point during the season

[CynicalSaintee]

Alzo
Irvine Garters Caff Grainger
Morais Millar Davidson Craig
Doc Sammy

I would imagine. I don't think Del would want to risk Morris/Savo, and even though Sammy looked pish last night, maybe a competetive game will make some incentive for him not to play like a lazy bastard.

[O'Rourke]

Hardie will surely start?

[CynicalSaintee]

Hardie will surely start?

I thought he was injured? Swap Millar for Hardie and switch the inner two, then. :)

[Kaylor88]

wasn't in ireland so not sure if it was tried but id like to see morais and swankie on the flanks, would give us options on either wing plus we have quality in the centre

Main
Irvine - Caffrey - Gartland - Danger
Morais - Hardie - Millar - Swankie
Savo - Doc

given there all fit I think that would be a good attacking side

[O'Rourke]

One to watch, and we were rumoured to be keeping tabs on him previously.

http://www.stenhousemuirfc.com/club/squad/8/Kevin-Motion/

[Widge]

Left midfield, nah.

But he certainly isnt slow.

[Finners]

This is what i'd like to see:

Main
Irvine - MacKay - Caff - Grainger
Morais - Davidson - Millar - Craig
Savo - Samuel

[O'Rourke]

Horses for courses;

Main
Irvine - Caff - Gartland - Grainger
Millar - Morais - Hardie - Craig
Doc - Samuel

[101 Saint]

One to watch, and we were rumoured to be keeping tabs on him previously.

http://www.stenhousemuirfc.com/club/squad/8/Kevin-Motion/

That's all dead now isn't it?

[Chansey]

That's all dead now isn't it?

....hopefully!

[Dylan-Saints]

think it will be a much more competitive game than last year as both teams have took a step up in terms of there league think we will win 2-1 or 3-1 around tht and hoping from a good performance from most of the players think we should take a pretty gd support as it is our first game of the season and first game as a SPL club again

[101 Saint]

think it will be a much more competitive game than last year as both teams have took a step up in terms of there league think we will win 2-1 or 3-1 around tht and hoping from a good performance from most of the players think we should take a pretty gd support as it is our first game of the season and first game as a SPL club again

Wish more folk would agree. Too many supporters looking to the Motherwell game as the start of the season.

[SaintDougie]

Wish more folk would agree. Too many supporters looking to the Motherwell game as the start of the season.

Probably so 101, though I know that there are going to be a good number of us Edinburgh saints going along to this one. Don't get me wrong, I can't wait for the Motherwell game but at the end of the day this is our first competitive game of the season and the team needs our support from start to finish this season.

In other words, those that "cannie be bothered" get off yer erse and support yer team. Mon Saints!

[only1sammiller]

best catering at any scottish ground aswell.
burgers, hotdogs, pies, bridies, - each for under a shiney pound if im not mistaken from last year.

[Finners]

best catering at any scottish ground aswell.
burgers, hotdogs, pies, bridies, - each for under a shiney pound if im not mistaken from last year.

what happens if I don't have a shiney pound, you think they'd take a shiney pokemon card instead?

[ryangordon86]

best catering at any scottish ground aswell.
burgers, hotdogs, pies, bridies, - each for under a shiney pound if im not mistaken from last year.

agreed, the grub is top notch

[garydavidson]

I have never been to Stenny before and was just reading the directions and what not. Is it the covered terracing that most of the way support goes in?

[emptyheed]

I have never been to Stenny before and was just reading the directions and what not. Is it the covered terracing that most of the way support goes in?

yeh we were put in behind the goal last year. i love going to ochilview :D

get the train with the cool kids though. 10 min walk from larbert station, about £6-7 return from queen street

[garydavidson]

yeh we were put in behind the goal last year. i love going to ochilview :D

get the train with the cool kids though. 10 min walk from larbert station, about £6-7 return from queen street


Yeah thats the way I was planning on doing it easy enough to get to from the station so it would seem.

[faircityboy]

any boozers near the ground?

[Shaggy Jenkins]

any boozers near the ground?

Club next to the ground, did a good pint when we were in last year

[sjfctillidie]

Probably so 101, though I know that there are going to be a good number of us Edinburgh saints going along to this one. Don't get me wrong, I can't wait for the Motherwell game but at the end of the day this is our first competitive game of the season and the team needs our support from start to finish this season.

In other words, those that "cannie be bothered" get off yer erse and support yer team. Mon Saints!

Does that mean the glory hunters would have to start 2 weeks early. Put money on the "cannie be bothered" will be there when the "old firm" come to town as in the recent years with the cup games.

[101 Saint]

The real fans will be there and we can sing a song of smugness!

[Scobby_SJFC]

The real fans will be there and we can sing a song of smugness!

here here

[Calinho]

Gonna be a good day oot

[101 Saint]

here here

When we lift the cup, we'll be able to say, "We were there"

Further, we will "forget" that during the penalty shoot out we were predicting doom and gloom!

[garydavidson]

Even my Arab supporting mate that I am taking along with me is excited about this game, hopefully we can also get a large number of saints fans who are excited about it.

[SaintDougie]

Just had a wee look see at the weather for tomorrow, It's ment to be pishing down. If we are to stand in the terraces then im taking a brolly.

[ryangordon86]

Just had a wee look see at the weather for tomorrow, It's ment to be pishing down. If we are to stand in the terraces then im taking a brolly.

You'll be fine, they're covered behind the goal!

Sounds like there could be a big crowd for this one! I hope Stenny are prepared

[Chansey]

Sounds like there could be a big crowd for this one! I hope Stenny are prepared

Thats a point, my mate was telling me they only had capacity for about 2000 people. Considering this is the first and second competitive matches of the season for two promoted sides, you would have though more would turn up compared to normal.

[SaintDougie]

You'll be fine, they're covered behind the goal!

Sounds like there could be a big crowd for this one! I hope Stenny are prepared

Yeah, im well looking forward to it. I was reading on the Stenny web-site that "they are not afraid of saints" and will give us a run for our money.

All due respect to them, I'm sure it will be quite a close game but I feel quite confident that a couple of goals early on will finish them off.

Are you meeting us at Waverley Ryan?

[O'Rourke]

Horses for courses;

Main
Irvine - Caff - Gartland - Grainger
Millar - Morais - Hardie - Craig
Doc - Samuel

Hardie misses through a thigh strain so I'll swap Davidson for him.

[ancientsaint]

The real fans will be there and we can sing a song of smugness!

welcome to the house of fun -was a good hit for them !

[stanley saint]

i'll be sat waiting for the result to come through with a cold warsteiner or 6

[bigstu]

Myself and the better half will be grabbing a train from Haymarket to Larbert. So excited....

[ryangordon86]

Yeah, im well looking forward to it. I was reading on the Stenny web-site that "they are not afraid of saints" and will give us a run for our money.

All due respect to them, I'm sure it will be quite a close game but I feel quite confident that a couple of goals early on will finish them off.

Are you meeting us at Waverley Ryan?

I am indeed.

I don't think this'll be an easy game, their reserve team could've finished us of last year in the first half hour, don't be fooled by the scoreline. One guy was tearing us a new one until he had a collision with the post and had to go off.

The only difference between the two sides was the fitness between a fulltime and part time team. They tired in the last 20 mins and thats when we really hurt them.

They've already played a competitive game too, I wouldn't underestimate how big a part that could play

[dan loves saints]

I am well looking forward to this as its my first time at
Ochilview Park.

Main
Irvine-Caff-Gartland-Grainger
Morais-Davidson--Morris-Craig
Savo-Deuchar

Subs: Smith,MacKay,Miller,Sheerin,Sammy

[Mike180279]

Something just blew in my car. Think its the starter motor. Might not get tomorrow. Very Very pissed off......

[Finners]

Something just blew in my car. Think its the starter motor. Might not get tomorrow. Very Very pissed off......

kick the tyre it'll be fine

[Perth-Saint]

Can't wait........just back from hols and ready for the footy:D.

MON THE SAINTEES!!!!!!

[sjfctillidie]

Something just blew in my car. Think its the starter motor. Might not get tomorrow. Very Very pissed off......

Get up to Perth.Supporters buses.

[ancientsaint]

Something just blew in my car. Think its the starter motor. Might not get tomorrow. Very Very pissed off......

cannae hae that......whaur do you stay ?

[Mike180279]

Thanks to all for all the PMs. Gonna manage it on the train as there is 4 of us going.

[sjfctillidie]

Thats devotion for ya.

[williamwonka]

Main
Irvin Caff Garfield Granger
Millar Morris Craig
Deuchar Sammy ..........................................Morais somewhere over here


Not what del will go for but I think is a winner. Cant imagine anyone will agree with me. I dont even agree with it.Hope Del knows what he is doing. Worried !

[CynicalSaintee]

Wouldn't surprise me if McLean started, but I suspect Alzo will. Millar's out, so Davidson will probably start as Moon won't be risked nor will Morris. With Rusty injured, and with no Hards I suspect our lineup will be as follows;

--------------------Main---------------------
--Irvine-----Caff----------Gartland---Grainger-
----------------------------------------------
----Swankie--------Davidson----------Craig----
-----------------------------------------------
----Morais---------Deuchar----------Samuel---

We're a bit thin in the centre, which is a little unusual for us. Probably a few U19s on the bench and McLean reserve keeper.

[Scobby_SJFC]

When we lift the cup, we'll be able to say, "We were there"

Further, we will "forget" that during the penalty shoot out we were predicting doom and gloom!

Lets hope for many more like us tomorrow, Ive missed Saints during the summer!!

[Saintkev]

Need to get a good atmosphere going tomorrow... we had decent numbers last season at Stenny, but were very quiet! Let's get the season off positively from the support, show our appreciation and show we are in this together.

A bit of rain will be good, get us all crammed in... standing up, shed over our head... perfect singing conditions... 'Mon You Saints Fans!

Think we'll probably win by a couple of goals, comfortable but not spectacular... which is more than enough... 'Mon The Saints!

[Nelly78]

What's the weather like through in Perth? I'm supposed to be playing cricket but can't be arsed - would much rather go to Stenny.

If any of you have got a spare minute, could you maybe do a wee rain dance on my behalf? Cheers.

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Greattttttttttttttttt.....


COME ON YOU SAINTS

[McSaint]

What's the weather like through in Perth? I'm supposed to be playing cricket but can't be arsed - would much rather go to Stenny.

If any of you have got a spare minute, could you maybe do a wee rain dance on my behalf? Cheers.

Theres cricket that goes on in Perth?

Is this official organised stuff or just mates getting together.

[Nelly78]

Theres cricket that goes on in Perth?

Is this official organised stuff or just mates getting together.

I know it's hard to believe, but it's official organised stuff! Even though Perthshire have folded, there's still quite a few other teams in Perth and around Perthshire. I just play occassionally to help out my old man's team.

More importantly though, is it raining yet in Perth!?!

[st Tommy]

I know it's hard to believe, but it's official organised stuff! Even though Perthshire have folded, there's still quite a few other teams in Perth and around Perthshire. I just play occassionally to help out my old man's team.

More importantly though, is it raining yet in Perth!?!

just assume its raining at get your self down the station for 12!

[208saint]

Have been a bit uninterested in this season all summer not really looking forward to the "joys" of being a fan of an SPL team etc, went to Ireland more for the craic than anything else, came home even less interested in the new season than before I went ...............



..........but woke up this morning and all I can say is "Come on ye Saints", let's get tore right in aboot this mob. Go out and give a performance against Burnley then go out and hump Well in the first game

All together now Oh when the Saints

[O'Rourke]

..........but woke up this morning and all I can say is "Come on ye Saints", let's get tore right in aboot this mob. Go out and give a performance against Burnley then go out and hump Well in the first game

All together now Oh when the Saints

:laugh:

[Kyle]

Buzz!!!!!!


I think it's fair to say I'm quite looking forward to this game today. I would like to see us line up:

Main

Irvine Caff Gartland Grainger

Davidson Craig Sheerin

Swankie Deuchar Morais

No Savo or Morris because of the artificial, and they have chocolate knees. I'd like to see Morais and Swankie playing off Deuchar and creating havoc between their midfield and defence. No Sammy in the starting 11 because he would be a fantastic player to bring on later against a part time team.

Del likes his 4-3-3 and considering the circumstances of this game, I think we'll be stronger with this 11. If possible, I'd keep both Morris and Savo out the squad as the last thing we need is one of them picking up a long term injury at this stage, especially with Rutkiewicz already injured. I know that leaves short of a midfield change, but Irvine has played in there and been ok before.

I'd have Samuel, Anderson, Mackay, Reynolds and Mclean on the bench.

[Tranmere Saintee]

What's the weather like through in Perth? I'm supposed to be playing cricket but can't be arsed - would much rather go to Stenny.

If any of you have got a spare minute, could you maybe do a wee rain dance on my behalf? Cheers.

You've supposed to be playing cricket for years and never really suceeded:laugh:

Beautiful sunny day in Perth (tee hee).

[Finners]

No Savo or Morris because of the artificial, and they have chocolate knees.
I'd have Samuel, Anderson, Mackay, Reynolds and Mclean on the bench.

mmmmmmmm chocolate

[Derek Patterson]

DP mounting his ride and heading down now.
'mon the Saints!!!

[SJFC1988,]

Anyone know the line up?

[sjfc_camo]

Saints: Main, Irvine, Grainger, Morris, Gartland, McCaffrey, Davidson, Deuchar, Milne, Craig, Morais.
Subs: Sheerin, Mackay, Swankie, Samuel, McLean
from Saints website

[O'Rourke]

Ha ha we're all wrong again!

[sjfc_camo]

Anyone at the game?

[blueheaven]

I notice Sky is showing the TFOD friendly while the Saints match (and other Scottish competitive matches) is taking place - I'd have thought this contravenes some sort of legislation. Poor to be showing live games on TV on a Saturday afternoon now that the season has started.

[Steve McQueen]

1-0 Savo

[california_saintee]

1-0 Savo

[O'Rourke]

Savo!

[O'Rourke]

Sounds like a beauty too.

[SJFC1988,]

1-0 milne :)

[Steve McQueen]

2-0 Dr Goals!

[california_saintee]

2-0 Dr Goals

[O'Rourke]

Doc! it's 2

[O'Rourke]

you boys are a bit quick!

[SJFC1988,]

you boys are a bit quick!

Sky Sports is a bit slow:?

[sjfc_camo]

anyone have an audio link for the game?

[101 Saint]

Gleefully incorrect. Hope the chippy sells humble pie suppers! Mike, we'll have to meet up at the Burnley game! Losing money has never felt so good! Ya wee dancer

[Mike_sjfc]

anyone have an audio link for the game?

Open all mics on bbc sport

[california_saintee]

anyone have an audio link for the game?

Sportsound Open All Mics: http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/sol/newsid_6400000/newsid_6407100?redirect=6407137.stm&news=1&nbwm=1&bbram=1&bbwm=1&nbram=1

[sjfc_camo]

not working for me?
comes up ready then i press play and then nothing happens?

[Mike_sjfc]

not working for me?
comes up ready then i press play and then nothing happens?

Launch it in stand alone player

[sjfc_camo]

cheers, any idea on performances the day?

[Derek Patterson]

Sammy on for Savo

[Mike_sjfc]

3-0 sammy

[Johnstoun]

and 4-0 Doc

[california_saintee]

4-0 Doc

[sjfc_camo]

big talk of mccann being a saints player by next week

[Johnstoun]

5-0 Sammy

[california_saintee]

5-0 sammy

[Mike_sjfc]

sammy again 5-0

[St Mikey]

Keep pushing for club record!!! Cmon Saints

[jinky]

Sammy has just been called a pineapple head after scoring the 5th.

Jason Lee your havin a laugh.....:razz:

[Tarvie]

Sweet, 5-0 cmon doc give us another!

[O'Rourke]

Hard to think what some may find wrong with a start like this but......

[jinky]

big talk of mccann being a saints player by next week

please no

[Mike_sjfc]

Keep a clean sheet and we have made an improvement from last year!

[saintstevie]

As I said to Soulful Saint this morning...artificial pitch, players being rested...this has all the hallmarks of an upset. :laugh:

[O'Rourke]

As I said to Soulful Saint this morning...artificial pitch, players being rested...this has all the hallmarks of an upset. :laugh:

It's ok mate, I wasn't particularly confident and would have taken two nil! :laugh:

[Mike_sjfc]

5-0 ft

[TheBigCheese]

FT, 5-0. What a ****ing disgrace. Del must go.

[Johnstoun]

Full time. Very well done Saints.

[duckfundee]

please no

great signing if it happens

[Coltrane]

Great job St Johnstone!!!

[saint in exile]

Nice one

[O'Rourke]

High Five

[madsainty]

Good start, nice to see the strikers on form today....We have nothing to fear in the campaign ahead...well done.

[StDuncM]

More than happy with that.

[Mike_sjfc]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_cups/8177211.stm

[MySpazz]

anyone know what the official attendance figure?
many saintees?

[NUSaintee]

I take it artificial pitches are still banned in the SPL still? If not, WE MUST GET ONE!!!

[henry hall]

Not a bad start for a team who have had a shoite preparation, according to 101 :D:D:D:D:D

[sjfc_camo]

attendance was 1049

[templeofsaints]

Temple reports up now - good comfortable win. Couldn't have asked for anything more.

[Kilgour]

Defence did not concede midfield created and strikers score sorted!!! Actually it was a bit easy however Alzo made two terrific saves.

[Chansey]

Actually it was a bit easy however Alzo made two terrific saves.

I hope George Burley was watching, THAT save was awesome.

[CynicalSaintee]

Happy days. A nice, laid back atmosphere (read - quiet as Hell, but we were winning so it didn't really matter), Alzo had some excellent banter with the fans, a very nice wee stadium, some good football and some excellent highlights. A couple of Main's saves were fantastic, and Savo's goal was phenomenal. Defence looked reasonably sturdy - Garters' touch was very poor at time but he looked otherwise solid. How was Morris MoM? Davidson was far more deserving. Tackled and passed well, looks a tidy wee player.

I give that 8/10. Fairly good passing football at times, clinical finishing and some superb stops from Main.

[ancientsaint]

I hope George Burley was watching, THAT save was awesome.

feck knows how he got to it - was a deflected goal-all the way....quality all round among the team and supporters........although i felt sorry for one of the stewards near the pie stall.........wonder who was arguing with him......anyone want to hazard a guess !!!!

Clue........prepares and cooks meals and is something of a "spectre" !!!!!!!!!

[saintbear]

Loved standing next to Erchie last 10 mins,he had Saints at 18-1 for 5 nil WHAT A LAUGH

[101 Saint]

Not a bad start for a team who have had a shoite preparation, according to 101 :D:D:D:D:D

The preparation was woeful and the players individual performances at Cowdenbeath were a disagrce to the SPL. However, today the real ball came out and we delievered in style.

Very good performance against a very gritty Stenny. Score line definately flattered us, but some of the passing and finishing was clinical and we didn't look too bad at the back. Plenty of work required over the next two weeks and there simply must be more closed doors games against strong opposition.

Further more a charity of Mike's choice is £5.00 better off:oops:

[O'Rourke]

Clue........prepares and cooks meals and is something of a "spectre" !!!!!!!!!

You spook too soon.

[saintbear]

feck knows how he got to it - was a deflected goal-all the way....quality all round among the team and supporters........although i felt sorry for one of the stewards near the pie stall.........wonder who was arguing with him......anyone want to hazard a guess !!!!

Clue........prepares and cooks meals and is something of a "spectre" !!!!!!!!!

To be very honest ,Ghosty had a point today.Any way smoking is not good for you Gordon

[Derek Patterson]

i felt sorry for one of the stewards near the pie stall.........wonder who was arguing with him......anyone want to hazard a guess !!!!

Clue........prepares and cooks meals and is something of a "spectre" !!!!!!!!!

I noticed that myself. Was fairly amusing. The "spectral" presence was calmly leaning on the wall observing the game when one of the security decided to run his mouth.

[101 Saint]

Any word on Savo's knock?

[soulfulsaint]

Comfortable even although they were a very competitive side, so well pleased.

[CynicalSaintee]

Any word on Savo's knock?

No mention of the site as yet. Could be that it was just a dead leg or something like that, nothing really serious.

[lang toon saintie]

Any word on Savo's knock?

Yeah,it`s about six inches!
Oh sorry,his knock,no, I have not heard anything.

[Mike180279]

Ok 101 - RSPCA would benefit from your kind donation. You should have more faith!

Happy man tonight. I didnt think we were particualrly excellent, we did exactly what we needed to do and a good solid way to start off this season.

Very clinical, could have been more though with Morais and Craigs chances in first half. Having the Doc in there starting exactly where he left was great to see. Derek who?

Irvine seemed to struggle with the pitch the most, caught unexpected with the bounce a couple of times. if he was carrying a knock then that may explain it. I also missed Savo's withdrawal as I was watching my youngest at the time.

What about those toilets? I was wreching when I went in before full time, absolutely boggin. Also glad that it was all one way in first half as I spent 25 mins in the queue for Pie Stand.......

Off out on the booze now - yeeehaaaa!

COME ON THE SAINTS!

[henry hall]

The preparation was woeful and the players individual performances at Cowdenbeath were a disagrce to the SPL. However, today the real ball came out and we delievered in style.

Very good performance against a very gritty Stenny. Score line definately flattered us, but some of the passing and finishing was clinical and we didn't look too bad at the back. Plenty of work required over the next two weeks and there simply must be more closed doors games against strong opposition.

Further more a charity of Mike's choice is £5.00 better off:oops:

Better to have a slow build up culminating in hitting the ground running when the season starts LIKE TODAY and NOT Cowdenbeath where the windy conditions and tight pitch made it difficult to look good.

[Shaggy Jenkins]

Braw day, the banter between the fans and the players in the warmup was superb.

Started a wee bit off the pace but probably tho be expected that Stenny would come out the faster but setled down and played some good stuff. Did not want half time to come we were playing that nicely.

Nice to see some wing wizadry from Flip flop Mories and some crosses actually from the byline.

All in all a good start and hopefully a good season ahead

[Shaggy Jenkins]

Better to have a slow build up culminating in hitting the ground running when the season starts LIKE TODAY and NOT Cowdenbeath where the windy conditions and tight pitch made it difficult to look good.

Exactly, though pre seson was pretty spot on this year, having this competitive game followed by the Burnley game is a good test to get the sharpness ready for the European assault.

For wat its worth ?Thought we played pretty well for the majority of the Cowden game, hell for the first 10-15mins Cowden never touched the ball

[ancientsaint]

must have made old soulfulls day with not one-----but-----two Sheerins on the park

[Mike180279]

must have made old soulfulls day with not one-----but-----two Sheerins on the parkI was thinking that myself! I dont think he announced the 'real' sheerin coming on.

Poor MacKay, robbed on his competitive debut!

[taylorboy69]

Any word on Savo's knock?

It appeared he got alot of treatment to his hand when subbed off..

[Mike180279]

It appeared he got alot of treatment to his hand when subbed off..Sex life down the pan for a couple of weeks then :wink:

[taylorboy69]

Slow out the traps in both halfs but after 15mins settled into some good football.
Thought the shape and balance of the team looked excellent with both Craig and Morais backed up with Grainger and Irvine (although he had one of his poorer games).

Davidson looks a bit raw in the middle and I feel when others are fit he will make way.

All in all - a very good start and more positives than negatives.

[Saline Saint]

Anybody see the wee lad who was'nt watching the ball when the players were having some shooting practice at the end of the warm up.Ball came over the bar and the we guy took it right on the jaw,clean off his feet,mind you like a true Saintee he bounced straight back up,proud of you son.

[Mike180279]

Happened to me, last game at Muirton Park but i took it in the guts.....

I wasnt in the ground till just abt kick off. Arrived in plenty time too

[Brian Potter]

Took until the first goal to really settle but never looked back after that. Played on a tricky pitch which was made faster by the mid-half monsoon.

New signings all played well. Grainger saw alot of the ball in the first half and looked good. Morais always looked dangerous and willing. Davidson strolled through the game. Dr Goals scored twice.

You can only beat who's in front of you and this result, without getting too carried away, will give the team's morale a boost.

[101 Saint]

Davidson looks a bit raw in the middle and I feel when others are fit he will make way.

He has some skill but he's certainly not SPL material. Interesting to see how Del brings him on. he's got a three year deal so a loan move might be an option. Not sure how happy GB would be about that though...

[Mike180279]

He has some skill but he's certainly not SPL material. Interesting to see how Del brings him on. he's got a three year deal so a loan move might be an option. Not sure how happy GB would be about that though...Definately one for the future. Liked his presence in the box at set plays though. Thought he would be withdrawn when the 'real' sheerin came on. Bit of a stupid challenge to get the booking but with reserve action too, I am sure he will do fine.

[CynicalSaintee]

I was surprised at how much space Irvine was given. He's usually a quick wee lad, but he was always a yard or two away from the ball.

[101 Saint]

Definately one for the future. Liked his presence in the box at set plays though. Thought he would be withdrawn when the 'real' sheerin came on. Bit of a stupid challenge to get the booking but with reserve action too, I am sure he will do fine.

Disagree with that, Mike. I thought he did exactly what Mooner would do and he took a card in exchange for preventing a clear strike on goal. Debatable whether he should have done so at 3-o (or was it 4-0) but it is encouraging that he puts the team before himself.

[Mike180279]

Disagree with that, Mike. I thought he did exactly what Mooner would do and he took a card in exchange for preventing a clear strike on goal. Debatable whether he should have done so at 3-o (or was it 4-0) but it is encouraging that he puts the team before himself.I thought there was a player covering, I may be wrong, it will be the last time I take my youngest for a while missed a lot of the game

As for the scoreline at the time, it would probably have been instinct and not taken into account

[101 Saint]

I thought there was a player covering, I may be wrong, it will be the last time I take my youngest for a while missed a lot of the game

As for the scoreline at the time, it would probably have been instinct and not taken into account

There were two Saints players together at the time of the challenge. I must admit that part of my defence of Muzza's tackle is the fact that I was screaming for someone to "snap that wee nyaff!" That said, I'm awfy glad that Savo ignored me when I was shouting, "play it wide":oops:

[Kaylor88]

good result and performance, so many good points about the performance, morais was very good today, doc done what holmes couldn't and morris and davidson ran the show :)

[Dev]

Disagree with that, Mike. I thought he did exactly what Mooner would do and he took a card in exchange for preventing a clear strike on goal. Debatable whether he should have done so at 3-o (or was it 4-0) but it is encouraging that he puts the team before himself.

I thought it was a ridiculous challenge to be honest. The guy didn't have a clear strike on goal, he still had the two centre-backs to get past first. He had cut in off the right wing and Liam Craig was chasing him, then when Craig was almost in a position to put in a challenge Davidson came flying in from such an angle that it was difficult for him to have possibly won the ball. A clear booking.

Given that we were comfortably in charge of the match and it wasn't that dangerous a position, it wasn't a tackle that needed to be made. I'm sure that with experience his decision-making will improve though.

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Excellent professional performance today..Savos strike was peachy..No failures. Well happy..

http://www.healthjockey.com/images/smoking-man.jpg:wink:

[101 Saint]

I thought it was a ridiculous challenge to be honest. The guy didn't have a clear strike on goal, he still had the two centre-backs to get past first. He had cut in off the right wing and Liam Craig was chasing him, then when Craig was almost in a position to put in a challenge Davidson came flying in from such an angle that it was difficult for him to have possibly won the ball. A clear booking.

Given that we were comfortably in charge of the match and it wasn't that dangerous a position, it wasn't a tackle that needed to be made. I'm sure that with experience his decision-making will improve though.

I think he was gonna hit it though, he wsn't worrying about any defenders. Liam was dithering and Muzza decided to take charge. I agree that the scoreline made the challenge daft, but I like the selflessness of his actions and I am encouraged that we would do the same at 0-0 and 89 minutes against the Old Scum.

Del will likely accept those type of yellow cards. Totally different from a petulant yellow.

[1884]

Anybody see the wee lad who was'nt watching the ball when the players were having some shooting practice at the end of the warm up.Ball came over the bar and the we guy took it right on the jaw,clean off his feet,mind you like a true Saintee he bounced straight back up,proud of you son.

It was my laddie - someone said it was Sheerin that kicked the ball but Laddie thinks it was Swankie.

Spoke to Swankie's dad shortly after and he said it couldn't have been Swankie if it was behind the goal cos Swankie would've hit the corner flag...:laugh:

[Dev]

I think he was gonna hit it though, he wsn't worrying about any defenders. Liam was dithering and Muzza decided to take charge. I agree that the scoreline made the challenge daft, but I like the selflessness of his actions and I am encouraged that we would do the same at 0-0 and 89 minutes against the Old Scum.

Del will likely accept those type of yellow cards. Totally different from a petulant yellow.

It was a pointless yellow card that will cost him a suspension at some stage. It was a black mark against what was a decent debut performance by him.

[geoff was right!!]

He has some skill but he's certainly not SPL material. Interesting to see how Del brings him on. he's got a three year deal so a loan move might be an option. Not sure how happy GB would be about that though...

Of course he's SPL material, if any go out on loan then for me it should be Swankie and Moon before Davidson. The guy has class written all over him.

[henry hall]

What exactly is SPL material FFS?????

Have you not seen Falkirk, Aberdeen, Motherwell, and septicks results over the past week.

The boy can play, talk of a loan is utter rubbish, but hey what do we expect from you 101?

[Scott1884]

What exactly is SPL material FFS?????

Have you not seen Falkirk, Aberdeen, Motherwell, and septicks results over the past week.

The boy can play, talk of a loan is utter rubbish, but hey what do we expect from you 101?

Yes Aberdeen were dire & Falkirk were knocked out by the only team in Lichtenstein :laugh:

[Saline Saint]

It was my laddie - someone said it was Sheerin that kicked the ball but Laddie thinks it was Swankie.

Spoke to Swankie's dad shortly after and he said it couldn't have been Swankie if it was behind the goal cos Swankie would've hit the corner flag...:laugh:

Fairly sure it was Sheerin,bet the wee chap had a bit of a headache tonight.Don't think any of the players knew what had happened as an acknowledgement/apology is usual practice.

[Finners]

decent number of saintees at the game today?

[stevie b]

pretty positive it was mr sheerin, takes me back to the day i got knocked out from a roddy grant shot tipped over bar by linsey hamilton at easter road!!! he did come to make sure i was ok though

[shug]

When is the draw for the next round?

[Nuggets]

Might be after the St.Midden game today?

[ryangordon86]

Mike, do you know the rspca do no work at all in scotland. All your money will go down south. On the game, i thought it went as well as anyone could have wanted. 2 goals and 2 assists from the doc. Thought irvine looked poor, never beating his man. Saw Morais on the train home too!

[Steve McQueen]

Might be after the St.Midden game today?

Tuesday afternoon, we will be seeded.

[soulfulsaint]

Excellent professional performance today..Savos strike was peachy..No failures. Well happy..

http://www.healthjockey.com/images/smoking-man.jpg:wink:


Not sure you saw it you seemed to be arguing the toss with stewards at the time. Explantions please?

[TheBigCheese]

What date is the next round scheduled for?

[101 Saint]

Of course he's SPL material

The boy can play

The boy has some potential but wouldn't have started yesterday had Midgie been fit, that's official. (http://www.perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/newsitemsdetail.php?param=454)

[Mike180279]

It was my laddie - someone said it was Sheerin that kicked the ball but Laddie thinks it was Swankie.

Spoke to Swankie's dad shortly after and he said it couldn't have been Swankie if it was behind the goal cos Swankie would've hit the corner flag...:laugh:Nope, the corner flags were not in at that point! :wink:

[101 Saint]

Nope, the corner flags were not in at that point! :wink:

You've sobered up then! Great PM, thanks for your "support"

[Mike180279]

You've sobered up then! Great PM, thanks for your "support"Only just! Never again......:oops:

[Radford 72]

What date is the next round scheduled for?
The SPL website has all the key dates for the season here (http://www.scotprem.com/content/default.asp?page=s49).

Next round is scheduled for 25th/26th of this month and the draw, as has maybe been mentioned, is on Tuesday. We'll be seeded again, so will avoid the other SPL sides in the hat and the top First Division sides from last season.

I thought we got the job done yesterday without being outstanding and Stenny contributed to their own downfall in part with some shocking defending and goalkeeping. They actually started brightly and we were struggling to find our rhythm but the excellent first goal, followed so quickly by the second, killed them. They came out a bit brighter at the start of the second half but the third goal ended the contest and the game started to have a bit of a pre-season feel to it.

One good save from Alan Main and one outstanding save and he dealt well with some really tricky deliveries from out wide. Danny Grainger should do a job at left back and Morais will provide a spark in midfield. Good to see all the strikers get amongst the goals but still feel, and believe, we'll bring another forward in before the season starts. Wonder if Coyle will lend us Jay Rodriguez? I certainly don't see many players kicking about in Scotland that are affordable and would improve us.

Healthy Saints support as well, probably outnumbered the home support. Hopefully we can carry that into the new season.

[Tranmere Saintee]

Loved Coughlin's comment that Savo's goal 'was a fluke' - he evidently did not see the look of intent on Savo's face as he executed the chip perfectly.

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Not sure you saw it you seemed to be arguing the toss with stewards at the time. Explantions please?

It was a 'uman rights thing. Was told off like a naughty schoolboy for smoking "in the wrong area"..Except the right area seemed to be right next to the wrong one. Only difference was that from the right one I could not quite see the far away goal.. I was seeking clarification and reasoning behind this strange policy. I argued that if they did allow smoking ( which they did) that as both areas were uncovered and about 10 feet apart, there was absolutely NO difference if I stood at point A or point B. Having spoken with young steward, I moved on to supervisor steward and finally bully boy( "I'll throw you out if you want) steward.. I threw in a rant about no signage which in itself is an offence and lack of a "coherent policy statement setting out the fundamental application of the smoking provision at the ground":shock: ( this went a little over bully boys head and he responded with" if your no happy I'll put you out" At that point I decided I'd had my monies worth and retreated to the official smoking zone to join the rest of my fellow addicts. I did try to involve the local constabulary but they " couldnae be arsed":laugh:

I fear I am turning into either Victor Meldrew or possible much much worse.....

my oldboy:oops: in which case I will be lifting folk by the end of the season, booting there arses and then telling there parents...:laugh:

I did indeed so Savos strike though..:D

[O'Rourke]

Loved Coughlin's comment that Savo's goal 'was a fluke' - he evidently did not see the look of intent on Savo's face as he executed the chip perfectly.

He's probably prejudiced by Savo's two lucky strikes against Rangers!

Difficult for someone at that level to appreciate real class.

[saintbear]

Having worked with our 'cookin sherry drinkin celeb chef''good to see the medication is working

[Mike180279]

He's probably prejudiced by Savo's two lucky strikes against Rangers!

Difficult for someone at that level to appreciate real class.Where I was standing, I was looking right at Savo into the red of his eyes - it was no fluke

[208saint]

Having worked with our 'cookin sherry drinkin celeb chef''good to see the medication is working

Unlike your mate's deodorant :laugh:

[CynicalSaintee]

Savo's goal was never a fluke. I had a perfect view of it and it was always intentional, dipping perfectly under the bar and into the corner. Absolute belter. :D

If he scores much better this season I'll be astonished.

[Dr Christmas Jones]

in which case I will be lifting folk by the end of the season, booting there arses and then telling there parents...:laugh:With all the pointing and hands in the air you reminded me of Arsne Wenger:laugh:.And i promise to be on my best behaviour this season:oops:.

[saintbear]

Hey 208....bloods thicker than water ,so you and your bro need to talk

[Dr Christmas Jones]

Loved Coughlin's comment that Savo's goal 'was a fluke' - he evidently did not see the look of intent on Savo's face as he executed the chip perfectly.Its a pity he had George Tulloch in goal:).A pair of high heals on and he might of got a fingertip to it:wink:.

[Teamwork]

It was a 'uman rights thing. Was told off like a naughty schoolboy for smoking "in the wrong area"..Except the right area seemed to be right next to the wrong one. Only difference was that from the right one I could not quite see the far away goal.. I was seeking clarification and reasoning behind this strange policy. I argued that if they did allow smoking ( which they did) that as both areas were uncovered and about 10 feet apart, there was absolutely NO difference if I stood at point A or point B. Having spoken with young steward, I moved on to supervisor steward and finally bully boy( "I'll throw you out if you want) steward.. I threw in a rant about no signage which in itself is an offence and lack of a "coherent policy statement setting out the fundamental application of the smoking provision at the ground":shock: ( this went a little over bully boys head and he responded with" if your no happy I'll put you out" At that point I decided I'd had my monies worth and retreated to the official smoking zone to join the rest of my fellow addicts. I did try to involve the local constabulary but they " couldnae be arsed":laugh:

I fear I am turning into either Victor Meldrew or possible much much worse.....

my oldboy:oops: in which case I will be lifting folk by the end of the season, booting there arses and then telling there parents...:laugh:

I did indeed so Savos strike though..:D

i actually thought the stewarding on Saturday was very poor, we arrived and leaned against the wall, just before you started kicking off at the stewards, we were told to shift away from it, which we did, before the end of the game there were kids sitting on it, after we were pointed at by some stewards from the home stand for smoking, i approached the local plod for clarification of the designated smoking zone and was told it was by the gate, fine. Signage isnt a big thing for Stenny, apart from their temporary £12 signs of course, which were gone by the time we left the ground. All in all the "matchday experience" at Ochilview isnt to be recommended to anyone, having travelled 420 miles with 3 friends, 2 of which had never been to a Scottish match, it was a disgrace, verging on embarrassment.

[andrew]

i actually thought the stewarding on Saturday was very poor, we arrived and leaned against the wall, just before you started kicking off at the stewards, we were told to shift away from it, which we did, before the end of the game there were kids sitting on it, after we were pointed at by some stewards from the home stand for smoking, i approached the local plod for clarification of the designated smoking zone and was told it was by the gate, fine. Signage isnt a big thing for Stenny, apart from their temporary £12 signs of course, which were gone by the time we left the ground. All in all the "matchday experience" at Ochilview isnt to be recommended to anyone, having travelled 420 miles with 3 friends, 2 of which had never been to a Scottish match, it was a disgrace, verging on embarrassment.

Have you tried the McDiarmid matchday experience?
Although the stewards were a bit dumb (clockwork security) they were great compared to ours.
If it wasnae for St Johnstone, I'd never go back to McDiarmid. :?

[Kevin]

The steward behind me in the cow-shed didn't stop folk smoking on the terrace, I could have done with him chucking out the guy with the cigar though!!

Pie queue was horrendous, permanent queue all game until they shut at 4:30. Decided I wasn't hungry enough to queue myself though :wink:

[Jamie_Beatson]

I went in the queue about two minutes from half time, and didn't get out of it until near enough 15 minutes into the second half. No reason at all for it to take that long - there were two people serving and only about 30 in the queue!

[Kevin]

I went in the queue about two minutes from half time, and didn't get out of it until near enough 15 minutes into the second half. No reason at all for it to take that long - there were two people serving and only about 30 in the queue!

Just the same trying to get into the ground in the rain!! What was it with the programme sellers too, standing next to the kids/concessions gate and not coming mear the line of folk waiting to pay their £12 to a guy who I thought was on the verge of a heart attack.......

[soulfulsaint]

It was a 'uman rights thing. Was told off like a naughty schoolboy for smoking "in the wrong area"..

I did indeed so Savos strike though..:D

Yes through a haze of cancerous charcoal - good goal all the same.

[SanginSaint]

Great to see the sharpness of Morais and the forwards,also the team is a decent height through most of the positions which i feel is important in the esssspeeeelllll....

[Saintkev]

Sex life down the pan for a couple of weeks then :wink:

His missus recently gave birth, so you'll be spot on!!!

[Saintkev]

Deffo a Sheerin strike which struck Ruari! I was hit by the ball during the game, but mine was an expertly executed header back after a Saints clearance over the bar! People around me must have seen me play before though as there were no shouts of "Sign Him!" :sad:

[ancientsaint]

Deffo a Sheerin strike which struck Ruari! I was hit by the ball during the game, but mine was an expertly executed header back after a Saints clearance over the bar! People around me must have seen me play before though as there were no shouts of "Sign Him!" :sad:

i was standing with jose murinho when you did that - he didnt think you were the "speshull one"....he fealt that your header should have gone to the right rather than the left.......twas a nice spin round to see where the "applause" was coming from !!!

[Saintkev]

That's a shame my teachers always said I was "special". And my spin round was honestly to see if I had landed on my daughter or Bear's lad!! They were both sitting near my feet and have to say I had no regard for their safety when the opportunity to get that 5-year deal from Del arose...:oops:

[Finners]

http://www.stenhousemuirfc.com/fixtures/results/2009/74/st-johnstone/

highlights there

[DundeeAreShite]

Cracking goal by Milne, not a fluke to me.

[Mike180279]

I'm famous. Spotted at Savo's goal too.

[Radford 72]

What a goal by Milne. I never realised he travelled with the ball before striking it. No doubt the goalie hardly covered himself in glory but from behind the goal, you could see it was a hard one to save.

Outstanding stop from Main from the FK too, although again one you appreciated more seeing it from behind the goal and getting a better view of the deflection.

Nice build up to the fifth but from Stenny's point of view, the third and fourth in particular were far too easy.

Looked a healthy support as well.

Of course, the best part of the clip is Saintkev's header!

[R_mac]

Of course, the best part of the clip is Saintkev's header!

haha agree:)

[Dev]

http://www.stenhousemuirfc.com/fixtures/results/2009/74/st-johnstone/

highlights there

Cheers. Nice site that and good quality highlights, certainly better than Saints anyway.

[Mike180279]

Cheers. Nice site that and good quality highlights, certainly better than Saints anyway.

was thinking that myself and they dont charge for it too!