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SJFC1988
18-01-2007, 08:42 PM
Id change our line up- quite a bit!

We need to inject pace into the midfeild and take the slow duds that havent been performing for months.

I'd drop sheerin cos, i cant even remember him having a good game last-it was so long ago!

Owen needs to show some faith in willie mclaren, well he has been playing well coming off the bench recently. Also Andy Jackson, he really deserves to be starting - on the right wing, well we cant do any worse!

I'd drop McManus foe Anderson as we need some pace in defence - since james is back! McManus has been off the pace for a few weeks now giving away the odd cheap goal.

Id go:

Cuthbert

Lawrie Anderson James Stanic

Jackson :D Mensing/Hardie McInnes McLaren :D

Peaso Scotland

Subs: Halliwell, McManus, Dyer, Doris, Mensing/Hardie.

Discuss.

SJFC1988
18-01-2007, 08:43 PM
SORRY 20/01/07 :oops:

A mcmanus error.

Steve Maskrey
18-01-2007, 08:50 PM
I wouldn't make too many changes, if James is fit to start then I would maybe go with 3-5-2 with Ando back in defence with James and McManus. I would imagine that McLaren and Jacko will be on the bench and utilise their speed in the second half when their defenders are starting to tire

SJFC1988
18-01-2007, 08:55 PM
it may be too late by then tho! :cry:

Steve Maskrey
18-01-2007, 08:58 PM
it may be too late by then tho! :cry:

Not necessarily. If we're drawing with them then McLaren and Jackson coming on could turn the game for us

Mikeec
18-01-2007, 09:32 PM
McLaren must start - he showed more v Ayr in the time he was on as Sheeran has in the last coiple of matches - Is it just me or has Sheeran lost half a yard of pace over the last month or so - just doesnt seem to be there or there about to put the killer ball in

Saintkev
18-01-2007, 09:59 PM
McLaren must start - he showed more v Ayr in the time he was on as Sheeran has in the last coiple of matches - Is it just me or has Sheeran lost half a yard of pace over the last month or so - just doesnt seem to be there or there about to put the killer ball in

He seems to have missed a couple of chnaces in every game of late, and a lot is made of him being a confidence player so it may be down to this?

HertsSaintee
18-01-2007, 10:26 PM
I think Captain Kev will plant himself on the injured list again on Saturday, but if he doesn't we should go:

Cat

Lawrie-Ando-CaptainKev-Goran

Jacko-Gunther-McInnes-Wizard

Peaso-Jason

Subs: Hardie-McLaren-McManus-Dyer-Halliwell

We need to start the running game on the deck again, and Jacko can offer us some pace from the off. Sheerin should relish that sort of lineup and hopefully it will bring him back into things.


Herts

Radford 72
18-01-2007, 10:52 PM
don't think I can ever be confident about facing Airdrie but at least we have beaten them at home in the past so have something to clutch to.

It's probably too early to name a side as the players don't report back until tomorrow so would need to know the injury situation.

The problems with the midfield are still there so I think with the good showings he received from the subs last night the option is there to change it.

Whenever we seem to play Airdrie, our strikers struggle to get any change out the Airdrie centre backs but McGowan is suspended and Christie injured, although they still have Stuart Taylor!

MacDonald and Scotland look like having the makings of a good partnership though, and linked very well with McLaren when he came on, so hopefully we can cause them more problems than usual.

Like Herts suggests, it's questionable if Kevin James will be fit enough to play after lasting 120 minutes last night so some fans may get there wish and see Ando reinstated but I wouldn't change the back four if they are all fit.

Cagey
19-01-2007, 09:22 AM
I think we should have Ando , Jackson & McLaren to replace James,Hardie & Sheerin. The first 2 because they are not fully fit & 2 games in 4 days will be too much. Even if the are fit to play it will probably set them back a bit. Sheerin is due a rest as he has not been the same player in the past month as he was earlier in the season plus 2 games in 4 days is probably too much for him as well.

The main reason for these changes though is we are desperately in need of pace & these guys will give us that. I can`t imagine us playing Hibs without some pace in the team. They were frightening last night & still going at it late in the game when they were 4-1 up.

Steve Maskrey
19-01-2007, 03:31 PM
I can see Anderson coming back in for James to give the big man a rest and bring him back against Gretna. Not sure about Hardie, my guess is he'll play despite the injury as we'll need his strength in midfield but will be subbed for Jackson or McLaren. Sheerin will play as he's our main playmaker and more for his experience. He'll be on the left but will move inside when McLaren will no doubt come on for Hardie

Nick
19-01-2007, 03:41 PM
Morais to start right mid :P :D

Kyle
19-01-2007, 04:02 PM
You knows it nick!

saint_markperth
19-01-2007, 04:05 PM
Cuthbert

Lawrie-Ando-El Capitano-Goran

Morias-Mensing-McInnes-Sheerin

Peaso-Jason

Subs: Halliwell, Jackson, McManus, McLaren, Doris

Hardie is ruled out im sure!

auld reekie saint
19-01-2007, 04:59 PM
Cuthbert

Lawrie-Ando-El Capitano-Goran

Morias-Mensing-McInnes-Sheerin

Peaso-Jason

Subs: Halliwell, Jackson, McManus, McLaren, Doris

Hardie is ruled out im sure!

Agree with this team.Let's see our new winger from the start and Ando deserves a start.

Nick
19-01-2007, 05:06 PM
Cuthbert

Lawrie-Ando-El Capitano-Goran

Morias-Mensing-McInnes-Sheerin

Peaso-Jason

Subs: Halliwell, Jackson, McManus, McLaren, Doris

Hardie is ruled out im sure!

Agree with this team.Let's see our new winger from the start and Ando deserves a start.

Id swap Sheerin and Mensing, then drop Mensing for McLaren. Mensing and McInnes are both to defensive, so we need a more attacking and creative player in the centre. McLaren deserves a start aswell.

MUZZ
19-01-2007, 06:22 PM
cuthbert
lawrie james mcmanus goran
morias mcinnes mensing mclaren
peaso jason

thats the team for me. get the wingers running at the airdrie scum

slf
19-01-2007, 06:41 PM
kick them in the b .up the saints

Radford 72
19-01-2007, 06:51 PM
I think the influence of Kevin James, and Martin Hardie, on the side is huge and whilst I adhere to the old adage that we should take one game at a time, I think it's vital we have them for the Gretna game and the two Cup games so would consider resting them tomorrow.

Not sure it's so wise to throw the new lad right in and he'd probably benefit from watching the action for the first hour so he can see how we play and our strengths and weaknesses. He's only flying up tomorrow so won't have met anyone but Derek McInnes.

As such, I'd go...

Cuthbert

Lawrie - McManus - Anderson - Stanic

Mensing - McInnes - Sheerin - McLaren

Peaso - Scotland

Subbies: Halliwell, Dyer, Morais, Jackson, Doris.

The Real Saints
19-01-2007, 08:31 PM
I'd start like this -


Cuthbert

Lawrie McManus Anderson Stanic

Morais Mensing McInnes Sheerin

MacDonald Scotland

Subs: Halliwell, Dyer, Mensing, McLaren, Jackson.

saint_markperth
19-01-2007, 08:33 PM
Cuthbert

Lawrie-Ando-El Capitano-Goran

Morias-Mensing-McInnes-Sheerin

Peaso-Jason

Subs: Halliwell, Jackson, McManus, McLaren, Doris

Hardie is ruled out im sure!

Agree with this team.Let's see our new winger from the start and Ando deserves a start. i would go for that more actually, good idea nick OWEN HERE IS YOUR TEAM

Id swap Sheerin and Mensing, then drop Mensing for McLaren. Mensing and McInnes are both to defensive, so we need a more attacking and creative player in the centre. McLaren deserves a start aswell.

Ronaldo
20-01-2007, 11:28 AM
It's bloody windy again! :twisted:

Cagey
20-01-2007, 11:50 AM
Just have to play our famous passing game then.

I see Oor Wullie is being very diplomatic. Says he thought he would be in the team but they are playing well so he will just have to wait his chance. What team is he watching ?.

Steve Maskrey
20-01-2007, 12:44 PM
I'm certain Hardie will declare himself fit and will be on from the start. The difference he makes to the team, similar to James, is more noticeable when he's not playing so I reckon Coyle will give him an hour before unleashing Morais. Not sure if James will make it. I think OC will have one eye on the Gretna game so would rather have him fit enough for that game.

Nairn Saint
20-01-2007, 02:55 PM
McLaren in, Lawrie out.

Moray Blue
20-01-2007, 03:32 PM
Afternoon stay at homes and exiles.

Good start 1-0 Tierney OG

shandon saint
20-01-2007, 03:39 PM
2-0 now... jason scotland just scored

burnsandi
20-01-2007, 03:53 PM
is the new guy playing ??

pezza70
20-01-2007, 03:54 PM
half time 2 nil

mon the saintees lets have a nice professional 45 mins in the second half

pezza70
20-01-2007, 03:54 PM
is the new guy playing ??

on the bench, squad number is 11 according to the sky sports page

Nairn Saint
20-01-2007, 03:55 PM
is the new guy playing ??

Started on the bench.

Ali91
20-01-2007, 04:06 PM
3-0 scotland :D

shandon saint
20-01-2007, 04:06 PM
3-0... scotland again. straight from the kick off!

burnsandi
20-01-2007, 04:06 PM
3 nil

Moray Blue
20-01-2007, 04:07 PM
Scotland again. 3-0. Great start to the 2nd half.

Moray Blue
20-01-2007, 04:13 PM
3-1 now.

Moray Blue
20-01-2007, 04:18 PM
3-2. whats going on?

Nairn Saint
20-01-2007, 04:18 PM
Oh no!!

shandon saint
20-01-2007, 04:19 PM
oh-oh... same old saints?

burnsandi
20-01-2007, 04:21 PM
have we made any changes to team in 2nd half
:?:

Nairn Saint
20-01-2007, 04:21 PM
Ach we're just making a game of it! Livi back in it!

Nairn Saint
20-01-2007, 04:22 PM
have we made any changes to team in 2nd half
:?:

New boy on for Peaso after an hour.

Nairn Saint
20-01-2007, 04:33 PM
Straight red for Marc Smyth.

Moray Blue
20-01-2007, 04:33 PM
Smyth sent off for Airdrie

Moray Blue
20-01-2007, 04:35 PM
3-3 ffs

Moray Blue
20-01-2007, 04:36 PM
4-3 - Wee Willie :)

Ali91
20-01-2007, 04:37 PM
4 3 mclaren!!! thank god

Nairn Saint
20-01-2007, 04:37 PM
half time 2 nil

mon the saintees lets have a nice professional 45 mins in the second half

:***: Rollercoaster...... Come on Saints!!!!

shandon saint
20-01-2007, 04:38 PM
sounds like some game!

perthsaint1884
20-01-2007, 04:39 PM
Bit slow shandon :***: Mon saintees

shandon saint
20-01-2007, 04:40 PM
Bit slow shandon :***: Mon saintees


yeah... i am listening to radio scotland! They are slow on the updates!

Moray Blue
20-01-2007, 04:41 PM
Why do we never do it the easy way?

mabosser
20-01-2007, 04:44 PM
Gretna 4-1 though :cry:

perthsaint1884
20-01-2007, 04:45 PM
Bit slow shandon :***: Mon saintees


yeah... i am listening to radio scotland! They are slow on the updates!

yeah i have it on aswel, i already knew it was 4-3 then they said 3-3!

Moray Blue
20-01-2007, 04:56 PM
Phew - 4-3 FT

Coltrane
20-01-2007, 05:00 PM
"sigh of relief....."

a monkey
20-01-2007, 05:02 PM
sounded like a great game!
airdrie created the most chances according to the bbc summary, but at the end of the day we got the win which is what we needed.

its what a lot of people have been saying recently, doesn't really matter how we play - as long as we get 3 points!

SaintSam1884
20-01-2007, 05:19 PM
Infuriating.

Coyle dropped Lawrie to the bench in order to keep Mensing in the squad at right back. Why?

Coyle played McManus and James alongside one another yet again, despite it being obvious to every man and his dog that they are a clown act together. Why?

The defence was diabolical. If we play that same defence against Gretna with Mensing out of position and Anderson on the bench, we will be absolutely torn apart. Coyle is the one that complains game, after game that we are shipping cheap goals yet he persists with an embarrassing centre half pairing whilst benching the clubs only natural right back in favour of a player he himself turned into a central midfielder and benching the most talented centre half we've seen in years. James and McManus do not work together, end of story.

Bizarre decision to start McLaren on the right wing with Hardie and McInnes in the middle and Sheerin wide left. McLaren actually played 100% better on the wrong side than I've ever seen him play on his natural left. He was a thorn in Airdries side all day and played very well. Hardie and McInnes also played well but Sheerin was woeful and Stanic behind him was even worse.

McLaren moved up front towards the end with Peaso making way and Morais replacing McLaren wide right. These two looked like they'd been playing together for years and indeed it was Morais who played McLaren through for his goal. Spectacular finish from quite far out and a tough angle. McLaren was man of the match by a bloody country mile, although Jason and Peaso look to be continuing a good partnership.

I'm infuriated that our f'cking defence almost ruined all of the hard work put in by the rest of the team. Even I will lose all faith in Coyle if he plays those donkeys together against Gretna! Good grief. Well done to the rest of the team though, and especially McLaren who really showed up the fannies booing him in the stand for the unintelligent morons they truly are.

saint_markperth
20-01-2007, 05:21 PM
sponsors motm Martin Hardie WTF?

SaintSam1884
20-01-2007, 05:24 PM
Martin Hardie actually played well today.

Only Sheerin, Stanic, James, McManus and Mensing failed to impress and to be fair, I think the defence were just a bad influence on each other most of the time. Some of the defending at set pieces was sheer comedy, and the failure to mark their two times goal scorer was criminal.

McLaren pips everyone to the post though.

Tranmere Saintee
20-01-2007, 05:28 PM
SaintSam will you please stop sitting on the fence :***:

Radford 72
20-01-2007, 05:33 PM
SaintSam will you please stop sitting on the fence :***:
Or alternatively lighten up cause we won!

Imagine what she'd have been like if we lost! I told Sam to calm down after the match and was given a very firm "NO" as a reply! :***:

carhartt-saintee
20-01-2007, 05:43 PM
is it just me, or does anyone else suspect these airdrie tinks just raise their game against us cos they know OC'll probably buy them?!

mainstand
20-01-2007, 05:45 PM
Infuriating.

Coyle dropped Lawrie to the bench in order to keep Mensing in the squad at right back. Why?

Coyle played McManus and James alongside one another yet again, despite it being obvious to every man and his dog that they are a clown act together. Why?

The defence was diabolical. If we play that same defence against Gretna with Mensing out of position and Anderson on the bench, we will be absolutely torn apart. Coyle is the one that complains game, after game that we are shipping cheap goals yet he persists with an embarrassing centre half pairing whilst benching the clubs only natural right back in favour of a player he himself turned into a central midfielder and benching the most talented centre half we've seen in years. James and McManus do not work together, end of story.

Bizarre decision to start McLaren on the right wing with Hardie and McInnes in the middle and Sheerin wide left. McLaren actually played 100% better on the wrong side than I've ever seen him play on his natural left. He was a thorn in Airdries side all day and played very well. Hardie and McInnes also played well but Sheerin was woeful and Stanic behind him was even worse.

McLaren moved up front towards the end with Peaso making way and Morais replacing McLaren wide right. These two looked like they'd been playing together for years and indeed it was Morais who played McLaren through for his goal. Spectacular finish from quite far out and a tough angle. McLaren was man of the match by a bloody country mile, although Jason and Peaso look to be continuing a good partnership.

I'm infuriated that our f'cking defence almost ruined all of the hard work put in by the rest of the team. Even I will lose all faith in Coyle if he plays those donkeys together against Gretna! Good grief. Well done to the rest of the team though, and especially McLaren who really showed up the fannies booing him in the stand for the unintelligent morons they truly are.

Very strange you blame everyone bar the one person who I think was to blame for teh goals. Kevin "if I stay on my line long enough someone else can clear it" Cuthbert. He pulled off a couple of good saves but a pigs ear of teh goals.

carhartt-saintee
20-01-2007, 05:53 PM
Infuriating.

Coyle dropped Lawrie to the bench in order to keep Mensing in the squad at right back. Why?

Coyle played McManus and James alongside one another yet again, despite it being obvious to every man and his dog that they are a clown act together. Why?

The defence was diabolical. If we play that same defence against Gretna with Mensing out of position and Anderson on the bench, we will be absolutely torn apart. Coyle is the one that complains game, after game that we are shipping cheap goals yet he persists with an embarrassing centre half pairing whilst benching the clubs only natural right back in favour of a player he himself turned into a central midfielder and benching the most talented centre half we've seen in years. James and McManus do not work together, end of story.

Bizarre decision to start McLaren on the right wing with Hardie and McInnes in the middle and Sheerin wide left. McLaren actually played 100% better on the wrong side than I've ever seen him play on his natural left. He was a thorn in Airdries side all day and played very well. Hardie and McInnes also played well but Sheerin was woeful and Stanic behind him was even worse.

McLaren moved up front towards the end with Peaso making way and Morais replacing McLaren wide right. These two looked like they'd been playing together for years and indeed it was Morais who played McLaren through for his goal. Spectacular finish from quite far out and a tough angle. McLaren was man of the match by a bloody country mile, although Jason and Peaso look to be continuing a good partnership.

I'm infuriated that our f'cking defence almost ruined all of the hard work put in by the rest of the team. Even I will lose all faith in Coyle if he plays those donkeys together against Gretna! Good grief. Well done to the rest of the team though, and especially McLaren who really showed up the fannies booing him in the stand for the unintelligent morons they truly are.

Very strange you blame everyone bar the one person who I think was to blame for the goals. Kevin "if I stay on my line long enough someone else can clear it" Cuthbert. He pulled off a couple of good saves but a pigs ear of the goals.

must admit i thought he was kind of slow on the first goal, should have got there before the airdrie-boy-who's-name-i've-forgotten-and-i-can't-be-arsed-going-downstairs-to-check-my-programme, you know who i mean.

Scobby_SJFC
20-01-2007, 05:53 PM
is it just me, or does anyone else suspect these airdrie tinks just raise their game against us cos they know OC'll probably buy them?!

Thats probebly a good shout

Nick
20-01-2007, 05:54 PM
Excellent fisrt half where we should have been 3-0 up, if Peaso's lob had went in. We were passing it well.

Then came the second half, despite scoring, it was turning into a distaster, and as SaintSam said, James and McManus are a couple of clowns playing together. There new guy was free every time, and was losing his marker on every corener, hence why he socred both goals from corners, then got the nock down from the corner for the other.

Why on earth was James marking the smallest man on the firld and leaving there 11, to someone else? Finally the dumplin realised and started marking him. The sooner Anderson's back in the team the better!! Lawrie, who has improved greatly recently never deserved to be dropped.

Anyway onto the good points. Mclaren had his best game since joining, he looked fart more sharper, was taking on his man, and his passing was excellent. Peaso also had a good game, and links up with Scotland better than what Milne does.

Morais looks a good find, fast, skillful, and resonable at shooting. Once he gets the chance to train with the boys, and get used to the Scottish game I think he could be the bit of pace we needed in midfield.

Steve Maskrey
20-01-2007, 05:54 PM
Cuthbert could hardly be blamed for the defence playing the Chuckle Brothers to-you-to-me game with the ball in the six yard box :roll: I thought Hardie was outstanding today, especially for someone who's injured. He stopped Lovering from getting forward in the first half and then stopped their right back from the same on the left in the second half.

Morais looks superb, lightening quick and can't wait to see him against some slow defences. McLaren had a great game today on the right and anywhere else he went to get the ball. Rounded off a great performance with a cracking goal from an awkward angle.

Nick
20-01-2007, 05:57 PM
Infuriating.

Coyle dropped Lawrie to the bench in order to keep Mensing in the squad at right back. Why?

Coyle played McManus and James alongside one another yet again, despite it being obvious to every man and his dog that they are a clown act together. Why?

The defence was diabolical. If we play that same defence against Gretna with Mensing out of position and Anderson on the bench, we will be absolutely torn apart. Coyle is the one that complains game, after game that we are shipping cheap goals yet he persists with an embarrassing centre half pairing whilst benching the clubs only natural right back in favour of a player he himself turned into a central midfielder and benching the most talented centre half we've seen in years. James and McManus do not work together, end of story.

Bizarre decision to start McLaren on the right wing with Hardie and McInnes in the middle and Sheerin wide left. McLaren actually played 100% better on the wrong side than I've ever seen him play on his natural left. He was a thorn in Airdries side all day and played very well. Hardie and McInnes also played well but Sheerin was woeful and Stanic behind him was even worse.

McLaren moved up front towards the end with Peaso making way and Morais replacing McLaren wide right. These two looked like they'd been playing together for years and indeed it was Morais who played McLaren through for his goal. Spectacular finish from quite far out and a tough angle. McLaren was man of the match by a bloody country mile, although Jason and Peaso look to be continuing a good partnership.

I'm infuriated that our f'cking defence almost ruined all of the hard work put in by the rest of the team. Even I will lose all faith in Coyle if he plays those donkeys together against Gretna! Good grief. Well done to the rest of the team though, and especially McLaren who really showed up the fannies booing him in the stand for the unintelligent morons they truly are.

Very strange you blame everyone bar the one person who I think was to blame for the goals. Kevin "if I stay on my line long enough someone else can clear it" Cuthbert. He pulled off a couple of good saves but a pigs ear of the goals.

Cuthbert saved us twice, with 2 chances Aridrie should easily have scored in the first half. Cuthbert is no more to blame than the defence. If Airdrie players are getting free headers from 6 yards out there more than likely to score.

Sorry but I find the person to blame for the goal was the person who lost their marker and gave them a free shot on goal. But thats just me.

SaintSam1884
20-01-2007, 05:57 PM
Cuthbert came out for the first cross, and McManus got in his way.

In any case, I can't calm down. Coyle finally gets it right with the strikers and the midfield, and then plays his mates at the back who single handedly almost entirely kill any remaining chance we have of promotion?

There are loads of positives from the game, but we will lose to Gretna next week, absolute fact, if he plays that defence, which I am 100% convinced he will.

saint_markperth
20-01-2007, 05:57 PM
the defence playing the Chuckle Brothers to-you-to-me game with the ball in the six yard box


excellent post

carhartt-saintee
20-01-2007, 06:00 PM
Mclaren had his best game since joining, he looked fart more sharper, was taking on his man, and his passing was excellent.

fart more sharper???? :wink:

i thought it was sheerin who was stinking!!! :***:

Tranmere Saintee
20-01-2007, 06:01 PM
Mclaren had his best game since joining, he looked fart more sharper, was taking on his man, and his passing was excellent.

fart more sharper???? :wink:

i thought it was sheerin who was stinking!!! :***:

Takes over as the best post tonight! :***:

Blues Brother
20-01-2007, 06:06 PM
Very strange you blame everyone bar the one person who I think was to blame for the goals. Kevin "if I stay on my line long enough someone else can clear it" Cuthbert. He pulled off a couple of good saves but a pigs ear of the goals.

Two headers from about 6yds. Third goal seemed a bit of a scrambled effort from where I was sitting. At this point the defending was woefull but a keeper has got to take charge of the 6 yard box.

Nick
20-01-2007, 06:06 PM
Mclaren had his best game since joining, he looked fart more sharper, was taking on his man, and his passing was excellent.

fart more sharper???? :wink:

i thought it was sheerin who was stinking!!! :***:

Haha, thats what I get for typing to quick! *far*

eddie malone
20-01-2007, 06:07 PM
Hardie had a f@in shocker today! I cannot believe people thought he played well today he was so far of the pace it was ridiculous.

MUZZ
20-01-2007, 06:34 PM
3-0 up against a lot of pish and all of a sudden that pish turned into a great team, helped by some dire defending. thank christ willie the legend scored

mainstand
20-01-2007, 06:54 PM
Cuthbert came out for the first cross, and McManus got in his way.

In any case, I can't calm down. Coyle finally gets it right with the strikers and the midfield, and then plays his mates at the back who single handedly almost entirely kill any remaining chance we have of promotion?

There are loads of positives from the game, but we will lose to Gretna next week, absolute fact, if he plays that defence, which I am 100% convinced he will.

McManus goy in the way? That is teh best yet. The goalie should go through his defence and any forwards to get the ball. That is the most lame excuse I have ever heard.

Anyway we won why are yo so uptight and bolshy?

Calloway 262
20-01-2007, 06:58 PM
I can't see how anyone can say Hardie played a shocker today. He was everywhere putting in tackles. He is strong on the ball and a decent passer. He gets so much stick but he is not hiding like a few of the players on the pitch today, Hardie is also a player than is genuinely giving 110% while it is obvious that he is not fully fit and has been playing with a niggling injury for months.

templeofsaints
20-01-2007, 07:00 PM
My take on it is up at the Temple but the defence was poor today. We again lost a daft goal (dont think Cuthbert can be blamed for any of them to be honest and he made some excellent saves at other times) and the heads went down. The marking on Koudou (who looks a decent player) was very poor and again the defence were caught out several times for pace.

I'd go with James and Ando next week and stick McManus on the bench. Stanic needs to sharpen his game as well. I thought Mensing was ok - really little to choose between him and Lawrie but I assume OC's thinking was that with McLaren in front of him he didn't need a wing-back but more of a natural defender at right-back.

As for the rest of the team Sheerin had another stinker and while McInnes is improved there were still big gaps in midfield. Hardie had a much better game though and McLaren was excellent.

Thought Morais was ok when he came on - seems to have a touch of the theatrics but an excellent first touch and some pace on him.

Given the hard game last week and the 2 hour slog midweek I think we did ok - the first half showed some of the best play in ages and the only downside today was giving away daft goals. But we scored more than them and that's the important thing.

eddie malone
20-01-2007, 07:01 PM
He was shi~e i have never doubted his commitment but he WAS crap today!

slf
20-01-2007, 07:16 PM
braw win against the fake airdrie aka clydebank

Broon
20-01-2007, 07:47 PM
My take on the game.

Very weird formation with McLaren on the wrong wing and dropping Lawrie. To be fair it worked and McLaren looked good, everything was going great. Peaso and Scotland worked well together and the Cat had a number of excellent saves. The defence looked reasonably comfortable.

After 6 minutes of the second half, I commented thats the best 6 minutes Saints have played all season. But suddenly, someone hit the off button in our defenders brains. What a shambles, they were all over the place. Airdrie pulled it back to 3-2 but I was still confident we would win.

Then Coyle 'did a Coyle'. He subbed the best player on the park, put our left winger who was playing right wing up front and left the worst player on the park (Sheerin) on the left. Why not just sub Sheerin, leave Peaso up front and put everyone in their natural positions with the new boy slotting into right wing? We totally lost our touch up front and in fact McLaren was just about to be subbed for Jacko when the new boy sprinted away and released McLaren. Ex Saint Robertson came flying from his goal for no reason and McLaren fired round him from the wing. Well played.

After that I felt we could get another but the big number 11 up front was giving James and McManus hell and Airdrie deliveries were excellent (especially number 7, he looked excellent).

Overall good win but should have been easier. Good game though.

Oh, just to point out Hardie (who I normally don't like that much) was superb today. A real blood and guts player but showed some lovely pieces of skill. He should have stopped the cross for the fist goal though.

eddie malone
20-01-2007, 07:48 PM
Here, here best post on this game spot on!

eddie malone
20-01-2007, 07:49 PM
Sorry apart from the hardie bit.

Mikeec
20-01-2007, 08:53 PM
Im just glad people on this forum are beginnin to realise that Sheerin is not God but just an average player in an average division - he has been abisimal since before xmas - a yard of the pace at least

mainstand
20-01-2007, 08:56 PM
Then Coyle 'did a Coyle'. He subbed the best player on the park, put our left winger who was playing right wing up front and left the worst player on the park (Sheerin) on the left. Why not just sub Sheerin, leave Peaso up front and put everyone in their natural positions with the new boy slotting into right wing? .

Peaso got injured in the first half, was this maybe not the reason for teh substitute??

Radford 72
20-01-2007, 09:10 PM
Peaso got injured in the first half, was this maybe not the reason for the substitute??
MS, do you know if Lawrie trained yesterday?

Broon
20-01-2007, 09:15 PM
Then Coyle 'did a Coyle'. He subbed the best player on the park, put our left winger who was playing right wing up front and left the worst player on the park (Sheerin) on the left. Why not just sub Sheerin, leave Peaso up front and put everyone in their natural positions with the new boy slotting into right wing? .

Peaso got injured in the first half, was this maybe not the reason for the substitute??

He didn't look injured. If he was, fair enough.

Billy Budd
20-01-2007, 10:03 PM
Hardie had a f@in shocker today! I cannot believe people thought he played well today he was so far of the pace it was ridiculous.

Sorry Eddie, you're in the minority here. I thought Hardie had a really good game. Maybe not MOTM, it was probably McLaren, but a close second.

pavel
20-01-2007, 10:07 PM
Sheerin was pish today, on the left wing though. His best play has been through the middle.

Hardie did play well until he tired (as usual) after 60 minutes.

McLaren and Mcinnes did well, and I'm glad they have proved me wrong today. I was slagging them off before.

McManus has been poor for a while now. Surely Coyle HAS to drop him for Ando, who has been excellent.

Thought Morais looked up for it and a real good player, I would play him a head of McLaren next week, since McLaren was on the right.

McLaren was going to get hooked until he scored that goal, Coyle left him on for a bit then subbed him after. He was doing hee-haw after he went up front.

Cagey
20-01-2007, 10:22 PM
I don`t think Cuthbert can be blamed for any of the 3 goals ,mainstand & he saved us losing 2 goals before we scored.
Can`t believe Lawrie was dropped to keep Minceing in the team. We had been calling for Lawrie to be dropped earlier on in the season & Coyle kept playing him . Now that he has turned into one of our most consistant players he is dropped.
I am not one of Hardie`s greatest fans but he worked his socks of & next to Wullie he was the best man on the park.

Jason should have scored to make it 4-0 but they broke up the park to score & then as only Saints can we almost lost a 3 goal lead to 10 men.

A 5-0 win would have sent the right signals to Gretna but we almost throw it away when we should have walked this game.

mainstand
21-01-2007, 08:21 AM
Peaso got injured in the first half, was this maybe not the reason for the substitute??
MS, do you know if Lawrie trained yesterday?

Not a clue Radford 50 miles away working hard!

Hazel1884
22-01-2007, 10:53 AM
"Saints were coasting along with the game wrapped up at 3 nil before allowing us to sink into shallow waters. Severe mistakes at the back allowed Airdrie back into the game and very nearly take two points off of us and one back to Buckfast City if it wasn't for the fantastic goal from McLaren. The defence let us down, but again as we headed into the break it was 3-0 going on 7-0. Morais' was a bright spark and can run faster than a sponge that's carrying the germs of a Dundonian...."

That was my original PA comment...had to change it to something more politer!!!!

dunblanemike
22-01-2007, 12:38 PM
2 points for a draw - when did that come in??

Kevin
22-01-2007, 12:56 PM
"Saints were coasting along with the game wrapped up at 3 nil before allowing us to sink into shallow waters. Severe mistakes at the back allowed Airdrie back into the game and very nearly take two points back to Buckfast City if it wasn't for the fantastic goal from McLaren. The defence let us down, but again as we headed into the break it was 3-0 going on 7-0. Morais' was a bright spark and can run faster than a sponge that's carrying the germs of a Dundonian...."

That was my original PA comment...had to change it to something more politer!!!!.

When did you start writing for the PA?

Hazel1884
22-01-2007, 01:45 PM
2 points for a draw - when did that come in??

Doh! Left out a bit of the sentance!!

Saint Paul
22-01-2007, 01:45 PM
I thought that Hardie did well at the weekend. McLaren seemed to have a bit of a licence to come off the right wing, and Hardie was the one that dropped in to cover him.

Sheerin did have another disapointing game. With Morais and McLaren on the wings, I would hope to see Sheerin in the centre of the park, and give Hardie recovery time as I still think that he doesn't look fully fit.

McInnes improved also at the weekend, and perhaps the guy just needs a few games to get his sharpness back. Only time will tell.

I still can not believe what I witnessed in our defence though. 3-0 up against a shocking team, who we could and should have scored the same again against, and we bow it. Make no mistake, Robertson saved us with his strange decision to come so far out his goal and allow Willie that chance to shoot past him. The defence just crumbled, and I just hope that Coyle gave them a real roasting after the game. He had everything else going for him in the front 2/3rds of the pitch, only for the 4 donkeys at the back to lose their bottle.

Stanic looked thergic at times, and needs a bit of a kick up the arse. I still think that James is not fully fit either, and at 3-0, we easily could have brought him off for Ando, who would have at least had more pace against their number 11. McManus and James just do not seem to "click" as a partnership and with Ando and McManus playing together for most of the season, I find it disapointing that James gets straight back into the team whilst clearly not 100% fit.

I think that we need to look for another central defender during the last week of the transfer window. We are not going to see Rusty this season, and I really believe that it will just be a matter of time before James is injured again. McManus looks nervy at the moment, and I think we could do with a bit of cover, to rest these players.