Queen of the South vs. Saints 04/08/07

[The Real Saints]

OK, I'm becoming impatient for the season to start now! Really looking forward to this game, not just because of seeing the Dobster again, so thought I'd start the thread early.
Generally, the players have impressed in the pre-season friendlies so far, so looking forward to finally seeing them against First Division opposition.
It is important to get off to a strong start, and I predict we'll win this game by a couple of goals.
What are everyone's feelings on this game, and what team do you think will start?

I think Owen will pick this -

Main

Webster (If signed)
McManus
James
Stanic

McCluskey
Hardie
McInnes
Sheerin

Daal
MacDonald


However, if I was to pick my favoured line-up, I'd choose Anderson instead of McManus in the centre of defence. Don't really rate Allan, and feel Anderson has a lot of talent and potential, which the manager can make the best of by giving him a regular slot in the starting XI.

So, how many are we expecting to turn up to support the Saints? I'll be on the 208 bus for the first time, so it should be a good day out!

Mon the Saints! ;)

[Nairn Saint]

Yep I'm an Anderson fan and think he should start everytime. Don't know if McCluskey will start but would like to see him involved at some stage. May be a game that would suit Weatherston? I still rate Andy Lawrie and obviously haven't seen Webster yet.

Bring it on. Will Queens have a set of XXL shorts for Doughboy?

[Nick]

Yep I'm an Anderson fan and think he should start everytime. Don't know if McCluskey will start but would like to see him involved at some stage. May be a game that would suit Weatherston? I still rate Andy Lawrie and obviously haven't seen Webster yet.

Bring it on. Will Queens have a set of XXL shorts for Doughboy?

Really looking forward to it! Queens have about half a dozen first team players suspended/injured so I really expect us to win comfortably.

I'd start the same as The Real Saints but, play Weatherston ahead of McCluskey.

Hopefully we'll take a decent crowd. 208 has two buses, the Dunkeld road 1 assume will have the one, and Edinburgh Saintees?

Should be better than the 190 odd we took last season!

Mon the saints!

[^sainteebrian^]

i must say all quarters of our squad are looking great!

[True Saintee]

Anderson's suspended anyway.

It will be:

Main

Webster(lawrie, if he doesn't sign)
James(c)
McManus
Stanic

McCluskey
Hardie
McInnes
Sheerin

MacDonald
Daal

[Noose76]

I would like to see weatherston getting a run out, hes a bit of a tricky character and could cause QOS alot of problems. I think that we will be too strong overall for Queens as usually seems to be the case in our first encounters with this lot. 2-0 or 3-0 us me thinks. Ive never been on the supporters bus before either but think ill start using it for the long distance journeys this season. I take it the 208 is the best of the rest?

[williamwonka]

dont know about webster. O.C only said he was 'okay' or something like that in the P.A. Not what you want to hear when you are thinking of signing someone. I would go with this;

Main

lawrie(although would prefer webster)
james
mcmanus
gin 'n' tonic (goran stanic)

Mccluskey
hardie
the guy from the midori advert http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o111/firemanfloaf/mcinnies.jpg)
sheerin

weatherston
peaso

[saint_markperth]

Main

Lawrie
James(c)
McManus
Stanic

McCluskey
Hardie
McInnes
Sheerin

MacDonald
Stewart

Subs
Cuthbert, Ruti, Moon, Wetherson, Daal

[7-2]

Why is everyone going for McCluskey instead of Weatherston? Ive hardly seen his name mentioned in the games to date yet Weatherston appears to heve been the star when he has played?

[Noose76]

Why is everyone going for McCluskey instead of Weatherston? Ive hardly seen his name mentioned in the games to date yet Weatherston appears to heve been the star when he has played?

Only I have seen the light :D the boy needs to get a haircut then he'll be sorted.

[saint_markperth]

[quote=7-2;90326]Why is everyone going for McCluskey instead of Weatherston?quote]

McCluskey is a right winger, Weatherston is a striker going on how they are being played

[templeofsaints]

I think McCluskey is a more natural and skillful player. Weatherston just now is going to be a good option on the bench (can cover up front as well as on the wing). I didn't see him in Ireland but based on what I witnessed at Arbroath and Berwick I've got no hesitation in sticking McCluskey into the team on the right wing ahead of anyone in the squad just now.

[Radford 72]

McCluskey is a right winger, Weatherston is a striker going on how they are being played
Weatherston has played on the wing in every game so far, bar a short spell in attack when he first came on against Arbroath.

There is no way Weatherston wouldn't be in my side at the moment, he's been our best player pre-season! I also thought Willie McLaren looked lively against Coleraine and think he'll make a real push for a regular start on the left as well.

McManus and James should be the pairing at centre-back with Stanic in goal and then Lawrie, Anderson and Webster (if he's signed) fighting for the right back slot.

Hardie and McInnes pick themselves but I've no idea about the strikers, could make a case for them all.

[Noose76]

Weatherston has played on the wing in every game so far, bar a short spell in attack when he first came on against Arbroath.

There is no way Weatherston wouldn't be in my side at the moment, he's been our best player pre-season! I also thought Willie McLaren looked lively against Coleraine and think he'll make a real push for a regular start on the left as well.

McManus and James should be the pairing at centre-back with Stanic in goal and then Lawrie, Anderson and Webster (if he's signed) fighting for the right back slot.

Hardie and McInnes pick themselves but I've no idea about the strikers, could make a case for them all.


Stanic in goal could be interesting! :D

[L-Mo]

Main

Lawrie
McManus
James
Stanic

Weatherston
McInnes
Hardie
Sheerin

MacDonald
Stewart

Cuthbert, Anderson, McCluskey, Daal, Jackson.

This would be my team, but I think Owen could well pick McCluskey and Daal instead of Stewart and Weatherston

[Saintkev]

Is Anderson suspended for the first game or two?

[saint_markperth]

first 2 games, aswell as one of the youngsters being supsended for a sending off in and under 19 game

[Perth-Saint]

Main

Lawrie
McManus
James
Stanic

McLuskey or Weatherson - I really cant decide from what I have seen so far
Hardie
McInnus
Sheerin

Stewart
MacDonald

Subs: Cuthbert, Rutkiewicz, Daal, Weatherson or McLuskey (whoever aint in 1st 11), McLaren

[Radford 72]

first 2 games, aswell as one of the youngsters being supsended for a sending off in and under 19 game
That only applies to the U19 league though. If Coyle wanted to use Adam Monaghan, he could.

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Having watched last nights game I think we,ve got to go like this

Main

Stanic
McManus
James
Lawrie

Weatherston
McKinnes
Hardie
Sheerin

Stewart
Daal


Subs:Cuthbert,McDonald,Jackson,McCluskey,& Rusty (Cannae spell rookavix)

4-4-2 with Weatherston and Sheerin getting forward and whipping plenty decent crosses and hopefully Daal getting on the end of some of them.(He cannae be as bad as he looked last night can he ?????)


'Mon The Saints.......

[Perth-Saint]

Having watched last nights game I think we,ve got to go like this

Main

Stanic
McManus
James
Anderson

Weatherston
McKinnes
Hardie
Sheerin

Stewart
Daal


Subs:Cuthbert,McDonald,Lawrie,McCluskey,& Rusty (Cannae spell rookavix)

4-4-2 with Weatherston and Sheerin getting forward and whipping plenty decent crosses and hopefully Daal getting on the end of some of them.(He cannae be as bad as he looked last night can he ?????)


'Mon The Saints.......

i bloody hope not - havent been impressed with him in the two games I have seen

[soulfulsaint]

Weatherston has played on the wing in every game so far, bar a short spell in attack when he first came on against Arbroath.

There is no way Weatherston wouldn't be in my side at the moment, he's been our best player pre-season!

Agreed several payers have not been able to make the move up through the divisions, Michael Moore and Kenny Deuchar spring to mind, Weatherston has all the pace and skill to do it. He's also professional now with all that entails. He'll be a very important player next season and is not to be dismissed by that old nostalgic word - a 'winger.' In fact if need be he could play upfront on his own and according to my current calculations (ratified by Professor Radford) we may have to do that in mid-April defending a narrow lead, in order to win the league. Oh how you will savour his haircut then. You'll even be wearing Weather man wigs

[Noose76]

Agreed several payers have not been able to make the move up through the divisions, Michael Moore and Kenny Deuchar spring to mind, Weatherston has all the pace and skill to do it. He's also professional now with all that entails. He'll be a very important player next season and is not to be dismissed by that old nostalgic word - a 'winger.' In fact if need be he could play upfront on his own and according to my current calculations (ratified by Professor Radford) we may have to do that in mid-April defending a narrow lead, in order to win the league. Oh how you will savour his haircut then. You'll even be wearing Weather man wigs

Ill put a tenner on it that he cuts his hair before the season is done. any takers?

[Nairn Saint]

He will then be known for ever as "bowl-cut".

[Hazel1884]

Oh how you will savour his haircut then. You'll even be wearing Weather man wigs

Sumo the Saintee is already endeavouring to steal Weatherston's 'style'.

[StDuncM]

Thinking of making the trip for the first game of the season and wondered where I could find out how much adult and kids entry to the game would be as it is only 3 hours from Sheffield.

Anyone know before I contact the Doonhammers?

[saint_markperth]

Adults
£15
.
Senior Citizen [over 65]
£6
No change from 2006/07
Student [17 years and over]
£6
No change from 2006/07
Adult & Child Gate
.
.
~ Adult & one child [under 17]
£17
.
~ Adult & two children [under 17]
£19
.
~ Adult & three children [under 17]
£21
.
Under 17 years old
£3
No change from 2006/07
Less Abled Supporters
Free
No change from 2006/07
Carer
£6
No change from 2006/07. Ticket to be paid for at Club Office on Match Day with proof of position
Unemployed/Supporters on Benefits
£6
No change from 2006/07. Ticket to be paid for at Club Office on Match Day with proof of position

[StDuncM]

Don't suppose there is anything for an adult and 4 children under 17 from wherever you got this info? Would it be £2 more?

[Tranmere Saintee]

Don't suppose there is anything for an adult and 4 children under 17 from wherever you got this info? Would it be £2 more?

You could always send one through with another adult to ensure it is just £2.

[StDuncM]

You could always send one through with another adult to ensure it is just £2.

Good spot TS, Vodka was blurring my vision.

[Saintkev]

Ill put a tenner on it that he cuts his hair before the season is done. any takers?

I was telling him on the ferry that a waiter in our hotel was in the Coleraine squad and was telling us that they just couldn't handle "the guy with the hair"... told him that he needed a proper manly hair cut, like mine... so no chance he'll turn up with a number one!

[StDuncM]

~ Adult & one child [under 17] [/SIZE]
£17
.
~ Adult & two children [under 17]
£19
.
~ Adult & three children [under 17]
£21


Spoke to Ticket office today and it is £15 per adult and £3 for Under 17s no matter what combination. Still not bad.

[saint_markperth]

http://www.qosfc.com/findus.htm

[StDuncM]

http://www.qosfc.com/findus.htm

Thanks.

I will print it off and present it if it is any different on the day.

[StDuncM]

http://www.qosfc.com/findus.htm


Thanks.

I will print it off and present it if it is any different on the day.

[montrosesaintee]

surely we won't start with Daal up front. I've only managed to go to the Brechin game so far, but he looked really clumsy to me, and wasted so many attacking chances. Stewart looked a better prospect, and Peaso worked hard as usual.

Must also say that Stanic looked even better than usual. Why the hell has nobody in the SPL made a real effort to sign him. He'd make it at left back for any team in the SPL, despite his age.

Reckon we'll win by a couple on Saturday.

[SJFC1988,]

main

lawrie mcmanus james stanic

weatherson hardie mcinnes sheerin

daal mcdonald

[MUZZ]

i'm ****ing buzzin!

bring on the new season!

[Radford 72]

Why the hell has nobody in the SPL made a real effort to sign him.
Motherwell did, he chose to stay with Saints though.

[Broggy Man]

I hate being away from home first game of the season

[templeofsaints]

I hate being away from home first game of the season

I don't mind it if it means we're at home for the last game (trophy presentations etc) :)

[Al C]

I hate being away from home first game of the season

Might hopefully work in our favour though - getting a good result down there will increase the optimism a bit ahead of Stirling game and add to the gate. Then a win against them will set us up nicely for Dundee at home where depending on how they have started we could be looking at a big crowd.

[SingaporeSaint]

with QOS injuries and suspensions, we have never been given a better chance of having a good start. Nothing less than a 3-0 win for me.

[Broggy Man]

I don't mind it if it means we're at home for the last game (trophy presentations etc) :)

Good point

[taylorboy69]

Yep, Id much rather play this lot 1st game when they have their team out suspended etc.
Look what happened when we went down there towards the end of last season on a midweek.....
Come on saints, lets put our 1st game of the season hoodoo to bed once and for all.
For all the statto's out there, has anyone looked at our stats for the 1st game of the season for say last 15 years? be pretty dire reading id imagine?

[MUZZ]

Yep, Id much rather play this lot 1st game when they have their team out suspended etc.
Look what happened when we went down there towards the end of last season on a midweek.....
Come on saints, lets put our 1st game of the season hoodoo to bed once and for all.
For all the statto's out there, has anyone looked at our stats for the 1st game of the season for say last 15 years? be pretty dire reading id imagine?

feck knows but we normally beat queens easily on the first game

[Jamie_Beatson]

06/07 - St Johnstone 0-0 Clyde
05/06 - St Johnstone 4-0 Queen of the South
04/05 - Airdrie 1-0 St Johnstone
03/04 - St Johnstone 4-1 Queen of the South
02/03 - St Mirren 0-2 St Johnstone
01/02 - Celtic 3-0 St Johnstone
00/01 - Rangers 2-1 St Johnstone
99/00 - St Johnstone 1-4 Hearts
98/99 - Motherwell 1-0 St Johnstone
97/98 - St Johnstone 1-1 Dundee United
96/97 - St Johnstone 0-0 Falkirk
95/96 - St Johnstone 0-2 Dundee
94/95 - St Johnstone 1-1 Raith Rovers
93/94 - St Johnstone 1-1 Dundee United
92/93 - St Johnstone 3-0 Airdrie.

So in the last fifteen years it is Played 15, Won 4, Drawn 5, Lost 6.

Not the best record, although we had a massive dry spell between 93/94 and 02/03 without a single victory. Since then we've done OK!

[taylorboy69]

Nice one Jamie. As i thought, not the the best by us so think we need to factor that into this weekend.
Anything but a defeat and I will be happy.

[gertiesaints]

my starting 11
main

peaso peaso peaso peaso

peaso peaso peaso peaso

peaso peaso

[montrosesaintee]

my starting 11
main

peaso peaso peaso peaso

peaso peaso peaso peaso

peaso peaso

limited options for the bench then

[MUZZ]

my starting 11
main

peaso peaso peaso peaso

peaso peaso peaso peaso

peaso peaso

get him in the sticks as well gert :)

[montrosesaintee]

get him in the sticks as well gert :)

he'll get chipped too easy and everyone'll be on him like a ton of bricks:***:

[rammsteinally]

i think you'd have to put peaso on the bench

[Nairn Saint]

Main
Lawrie, McManus, James, Stanic
Weatherston, McInnes, Hardie, Sheerin
Stewart and MacDonald

[montrosesaintee]

Main
Lawrie, McManus, James, Stanic
Weatherston, McInnes, Hardie, Sheerin
Stewart and MacDonald

Concur with that. Better team than last year IMO. Can't wait now. Wish I could go to QOS game.

Is it just me, or is the feeling of optimism that we ended last season with continued into the start of this season better than usual. Even the players still seem to be on a high. Reflects well on Coyle's style of management if you ask me. Long may it continue.

[1884]

my starting 11
main

peaso peaso peaso peaso

peaso peaso peaso peaso

peaso peaso

Have you found the bottom of that bottle of Cabardi then, Gert?:wink:

[MUZZ]

Concur with that. Better team than last year IMO. Can't wait now. Wish I could go to QOS game.

Is it just me, or is the feeling of optimism that we ended last season with continued into the start of this season better than usual. Even the players still seem to be on a high. Reflects well on Coyle's style of management if you ask me. Long may it continue.


ya man, a good vibe is around

[The Real Saints]

I can exclusively reveal, from a brilliant source, that David Weatherston will start on the right-wing on Saturday, rather than McCluskey.

[L-Mo]

Obviously we'll miss Scotland this year, but on the whole, I'd say the team looks in better shape than this time last year, when we went to Queens for our first away game.

[Radford 72]

Not convinced Queens aren't at it a bit but they are claiming on their official website tonight that they could have up to 10 of their 20 senior players out for this game.

Tosh, Adams, Lauchlan, Thomson and O'Neill are all suspended and Harris and McGowan are supposedly definitely out.

MacFarlane, Dobbie and O'Connor and are all receiving extenstive treatement and are rated only 50:50, no decision will be made on them until Saturday morning.

[john1962]

Will believe all the injuries at three on Saturday when at Palmerston. we should beat their first team so lets concentrate on us and what we do.

[L-Mo]

MacFarlane, Dobbie and O'Connor and are all receiving extenstive treatement and are rated only 50:50, no decision will be made on them until Saturday morning.


Those three will spend all season being only 50% fit though!

[emptyheed]

i cant wait for this game!

any1 know of spare bus/car seats though... ?

[Hazel1884]

I am actually so looking forward to this it's unbelievable.

I'm glad someone else has picked up on these 'injuries'. I had suspicions at the start of the week that some, if not all, could be a major bluff in terms of playing games with the opposition but i guess time will tell.

Looking to get a good win under our belt for confidence and start as we mean to go on. Will be interesting to see who wins the right midfield slot and the chance to partner MacDonald. I expect it to be Weatherston on the right with Daal up top. Stewart is the more likely candidate to come on and change the game whilst Daal will take a bit to settle in and give us a different option.

Seen the players training a few times this week on my usual lunchtime jaunt round the inch and Daal can certainly connect with the ball. I just hope he gets that elusive goal early into the season and gets the monkey off his back and get some confidence.

BRING IT ON!

Plus, i'll be sober at every other match until the next QoS away trip...i would like to be allowed a happy drunken bus trip home. Thanks, Saints.

[templeofsaints]

Seems to have been a really quick close season. Can't say I've been worked up about tomorrow's game but the butterflies have started this week.

[Saintkev]

Plus, i'll be sober at every other match until the next QoS away trip...i would like to be allowed a happy drunken bus trip home. Thanks, Saints.

Same boat (I think)... it's going to be strange!

[Calypso Kid]

I wet the bed last night. Not going to be able to sleep tonight! Need to take it easy in the pub tonight for an early start tommorow.

Someone said its the Dumfries show tommorow too. Does anyone know if that causes traffic problems?

[BlairSaint]

Sounds like everyones buzzing about this seasons opener, should be a good away crowd from us by the looks of it.

[The Real Saints]

I'm excited! Should be a great day out. :D

[SaintSam1884]

Feck me, I've been counting down the days since June.

I hate pre-season. I can't wait until tomorrow.

[Radford 72]

Queens have signed Jamie Mole on loan from Hearts.

[SingaporeSaint]

The young mole sounds promising, good luck to him.

[StDuncM]

Anyone know the parking situation at Palmerston Park? On one of their websites it says that you can park in a nearby retail park or in Tesco for free but am a bit sceptical about it.

[Chansey]

Anyone know the parking situation at Palmerston Park? On one of their websites it says that you can park in a nearby retail park or in Tesco for free but am a bit sceptical about it.

When i went down during midweek last season i just parked in a nearby housing estate, had no problems whatsoever, but then it was a midweek match...

Like others i cant wait to get the show on the road, aswell as getting the hamilton match report link off the official homepage, the heart sinks everytime i go on the site these days!

Mon' the Saints!!

[Saintkev]

Queens have signed Jamie Mole on loan from Hearts.

Where does he play? In the hole?

[Saintkev]

I'm just away to make my rum and coke for tomorrows journey, then up early to get made up for by big henny... so I'd just like to ask everyone to behave the way they did towards the end of last season... sing yer hearts out and back the team all the way... show them that last season's cruel ending will not affect us... 'Mon The Saints & Keep The Faith!!

[lethamsaintee]

Got that weird feeling again.
Thinking oh no what if we get stuffed, naw we will win its okay, but Queens will be up for it, aye but so will we.

Just want it to get started now, cannae wait.

COME ON YOU SAINTS!!!

[Nairn Saint]

Queens 1 Saints 2. (Stewart and MacDonald) Stanic Man of the match.

That will do nicely! :***:

[Ronaldo]

I thought our opening day games were bad but in this division they've been ok -

Saints 0 Clyde 0
Saints 4 QOS 0
Airdrie Utd 1 Saints 0
Saints 4 QOS 1
St.Mirren 0 Saints 2

It's only the first game whatever the result.

C'mon Saints!

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Just got home from holiday and can,t wait for things to get going... As I,m not there I just want to say "C,mon the saintees.....Lets get ready to rumble and lets get it right up them.....

[Moray Blue]

Starting line up (according to Sky)

Main
Lawrie
Stanic
McManus
James
McInnes
Hardie
Sheerin
Stewart
Weatherston
MacDonald

Subs

Jackson
Daal
Moon
McCluskey
Cuthbert

[Moray Blue]

3mins 1-0 Queens. Dobbie!

[Shaggy Jenkins]

Great start

[saints1989]

Dam It

1-0 Queens

:(

[Dunfermline Saint]

1-0 Hamilton Not all bad...

[soulfulsaint]

Dam It

1-0 Queens

:(

Haunted by the Dobbster - Dobbie in 3 minutes.

[dan the saint]

Great start saints but hay we can still win this tho boys

[Moray Blue]

as a certain poster might say "keep the faith"

[Dunfermline Saint]

Hamilton 1 Dunfermline 1 now....

[Begbie's Moustache]

as a certain poster might say "keep the faith"
And remember kids, it's a marathon, not a snickers...........

[Dunfermline Saint]

2-0 Qos

[soulfulsaint]

2-0 down McFarlane

[Moray Blue]

good job it's not a full strength Queens team

plenty time still to get back

[Broon]

Ouch, thats a poor start. Still an hour to go - let's see what Coyle can do. :o

[Jamie_Beatson]

Anyone had updates from the game about what the hell we are playing at?!

[Shaggy Jenkins]

looks like normal service has resumed from last year

[Kyle]

2-1. Sheerin with a penalty

[Shaggy Jenkins]

one back

[dave mc]

2-1

[Watty]

The season starts now, COME ON SAINTS!!

[Moray Blue]

yes - hopefully thats the season kick-started now

[Moray Blue]

HT 2-1 down. At least it looks a bit better than it did. Other games arent going to badly either.

[Dunfermline Saint]

Dunfermline seem to be struggling which is encouraging. Updates on their game are available here.

http://dafc.net/index2.php?ID=2278&CATEGORY2=3-Live+Updates

[Watty]

Main lobbed twice for the Queens goals.....Wetherston ripped down by McQuilken for a stone waller pen.

[Broon]

Main lobbed twice for the Queens goals.....Wetherston ripped down by McQuilken for a stone waller pen.

If that was Cuthbert 90% on here would be wanting a public castration. I said when we signed Main it was a mistake - I hope I'm wrong.

[Shaggy Jenkins]

radio said chiped by dobbie, the other was a 35 yard strike

[Broon]

radio said chiped by dobbie, the other was a 35 yard strike

My radio inexplicably cut out before our report. Did it say we were in the game?

[Chuck Norris]

If that was Cuthbert 90% on here would be wanting a public castration. I said when we signed Main it was a mistake - I hope I'm wrong.
We're starting earlier than usual! 37.5 games to go (at the time of writing) and we've come close to our first "told you so" post :-)

[Shaggy Jenkins]

My radio inexplicably cut out before our report. Did it say we were in the game?

Said Wetherston constantly causing problems down the right he won the pen. The way it was desribed seems pretty end to end. Dobster had one chalked off for offside

[Watty]

My radio inexplicably cut out before our report. Did it say we were in the game?

Just spoke to my mate at the game, him who said Main was lobbed twice ala the Cat. Also Wetherston is causing them probs.

[Broon]

We're starting earlier than usual! 37.5 games to go (at the time of writing) and we've come close to our first "told you so" post :-)

:D

Not quite I told you so, as he could turn out to be great. I chose to reserve judgement on Main until I have seen him play for us a few games. However, a fair few Saints fans are expecting to be the God that he was 7 years ago - I'm not sure thats a fair expectation.

[Dunfermline Saint]

2-1 Hamilton!!!!!!!! Get in

[Shaggy Jenkins]

I think hamilton could be there or there abouts...............3-1 down

[Watty]

I think hamilton could be there or there abouts...............3-1 down

FOR FU(kS SAKE!!

[Dunfermline Saint]

Welcome to another season of total frustration.

[Broon]

This is the best game of the season to show vulnerability - if we have a problem I hope Coyle see's it now so he can sort it out.

How much did I miss the footie this pre-season :?

[Shaggy Jenkins]

This should of been a stick on. no excuses....dont beleve the hype

[Broon]

We're starting earlier than usual! 37.5 games to go (at the time of writing) and we've come close to our first "told you so" post :-)

If you wan't to see 'told you so' go have a look at my posts on Dobbie when he was released :wink:

[Jamie_Beatson]

To be fair, while their squad was severely depleted their starting line up was quite close to their best.

They were one of the best teams in the form guide for a long time last season.

(excuses in early)

[Scobby_SJFC]

oh dear .. again looking like a poor afternoon, why it it always the same story where we cannot beat teams in the lower half of the league, teams we really should be beating!

Shame I was really up for the new season!

[Finners]

the line-up is:

Main
Lawie James McManus Stanic
Sheerin Hardie McInnes
Stewart Weatherston Peaso

at least im guessing thats how it is. Surely thats 3 strikers therefore - coyle is playing 4-3-3??

[Ali91]

the line-up is:

Main
Lawie James McManus Stanic
Sheerin Hardie McInnes
Stewart Weatherston Peaso

at least im guessing thats how it is. Surely thats 3 strikers therefore - coyle is playing 4-3-3??

id guess weatherstons playing right midfield.

[Finners]

ah, didnt think of that. i thought coyle had gone nuts

[dave mc]

Dobster missed a pen!!

[St Mikey]

Quite early man!

Doesn't matter about there line-up, what about ours??

Just coz we signed Main doesn't mean he is first choice, he was done v Brechin in the friendly and from the sounds of it done twice v Queens so far? Get the Cat back in goal, fair enough a lot of people don't think he is good but surely good enough not to leak 3 v Queens?

It's back to chase now - 3pts behind the Scum.

CHASE ON..................


To be fair, while their squad was severely depleted their starting line up was quite close to their best.

They were one of the best teams in the form guide for a long time last season.

(excuses in early)

[Broon]

Dobbie missed a penalty - we are having a shocker. This is officially a pumping :(

Jackson is now on, lets hope he can do some damage!

[^sainteebrian^]

i hate this day

[St Mikey]

Pass on him........when did he last score in a senior game?

Dobbie missed a penalty - we are having a shocker. This is officially a pumping :(

Jackson is now on, lets hope he can do some damage!

[Indicator]

Huh!! we managed to reply with a pen. Never mind - Livvy and the Albion huvnay managed to score from open play yet either. :oops: Belay that, the Albion just did. Looks like we've really managed to put some strike force together....

[Broon]

Pass on him........when did he last score in a senior game?

Give the lad a chance - he's got talent. Come on Jacko, pull one back :cool:

[Scobby_SJFC]

Am Embarrassedright now!!

[^sainteebrian^]

mcluskey on <> weatherston off

[pavel]

Not good

[St Mikey]

I want him to do very well but we cannot expect to put that amount of pressure on a kid to pull back from 3-1 down.

Send the ball over the top and let him run onto it.

At least Sheerin's got 2 this season

Give the lad a chance - he's got talent. Come on Jacko, pull one back :cool:

[Watty]

COME ON!! last 10 mins!! get a point Saints!!

[^sainteebrian^]

the thing is WHAT do we change!

[Broon]

3-3!

[^sainteebrian^]

sheerin PEN!!!!!

[Scobby_SJFC]

3-2 Sheerin - come on!!!

[Watty]

FU(K ME!!!!!!Go grab a winner!!!!!!

[dan the saint]

3-2

[dave mc]

peanut and mmm

[^sainteebrian^]

its 3-2 is it not!

[Finners]

3-3 , we have the momentum now MON!!!

[Indicator]

W-T we're doin a Gretna

[Finners]

radio said 3-3

[Shaggy Jenkins]

Really!!!!?????

[Ali91]

sheerin pen 3 2

[Scobby_SJFC]

3-3?? who scored the 3rd bloody hell!!

[Finners]

well, if he realised he made a mistake and its actually 3-2 i might kill him

[Ali91]

hardieeeeeeeeeee

[Broggy Man]

hardie

[Finners]

HARDIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
89th

IT IS 3-3

[soulfulsaint]

Hardie got the third

[Moray Blue]

get in there - Hardie 89. 3-3

[sainteegraham]

Martin Hardie!

[^sainteebrian^]

aye it is 3-3 my bad!

[Shaggy Jenkins]

Mmmh I Love You!!!

[pavel]

Dancer!!!!

[Scobby_SJFC]

yasss!!

get in!!

[^sainteebrian^]

all together now

SAINTEE TILL I DIE !

[Ali91]

3 3 full time.

[Dunfermline Saint]

Never been so happy with looking like getting a point at QOS!!!

[Broggy Man]

full time

[pavel]

Hardie = God

[Moray Blue]

FT 3-3. Guess the nerves are going to have a pounding again this season.

[dave mc]

Full Time,what A Fightback!!!

[St Mikey]

NAW!!


GOD answers to HARDIE :razz:

LEGEND!!

Hardie = God

[Shaggy Jenkins]

Phew still should not of been so hard

[Watty]

Christ i'll settle for that!! Could prove utterly vital at the end of the season!!

[^sainteebrian^]

HARDIE IS MY HERO HARDIE IS MY HERO, na na na na HEY na na na na HEY

[Broggy Man]

Christ i'll settle for that!! Could prove utterly vital at the end of the season!!

I just love this

[iluvkeigan]

yasssss!!

sainteee till i dieee!!

xxxxxxxxxxx

[Scobby_SJFC]

Better than a defeat, but not great!!

[Broggy Man]

draws killed us last season thats one in the bag already

[^sainteebrian^]

i feel like we have just beaten them! this is the felling i love.

[soulfulsaint]

draws killed us last season thats one in the bag already

the team that wins at home and never loses away always wins the league.

[Broggy Man]

i feel like we have just beaten them!

good point there will help the confidence no doubt

[Broggy Man]

the team that wins at home and never loses away always wins the league.

ach im just an old pessimist

[Shaggy Jenkins]

Am i right in thinking that the years we have gone up we have drawn our first game?

[silver_blue]

Still need a decent keeper. Can't rely on keeping scoring a load every week.

[Nairn Saint]

draws killed us last season thats one in the bag already

Hey Mr cynical, lighten up! That's a point more than we had with 2 minutes to go!

[soulfulsaint]

ach im just an old pessimist

so was I until that last goal.

[^sainteebrian^]

Am i right in thinking that the years we have gone up we have drawn our first game?

DONT JINX IT shhhhhhh...

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

If we can show that fighting spirit all season we,ll be there or there about at the death...."Were blue were white" Mon the Saints..............

[Broon]

Can't beat that. Probably would have taken a draw before the game as well. Still serious flaws with the defence and we can't forget we could have been 4-1 down. Crazy stuff. Good point though.

[^sainteebrian^]

Bring On The Albion. Albion Who!

[Cagey]

Was a bit worried about this game as QoS had suspentions & injuries, Thought the guys that came in would work their socks off & losing Lauchlan & Thomson must have strengthened their team as they are both donkies.

Not a great start to the season but could have been worse.

Main lobbed again & beaten from 35 yards . Hope this is his usual 3 goal gift to QoS over for the season.

[Ray Blair]

Delighted with a spirited fightback.A point and three goals away from home aint so bad.
Dunfermline lost and I spent the afternoon listening to Gretna getting gubbed.....life isnt so bad

[Who Are You?]

draws killed us last season thats one in the bag already

Games in which we were winning and drew killed us, not games we were losing by 2 goals going into the last couple of minutes.

This is a good point considering we were shocking all day and totally out played by all accounts and were 3-1 one down in the 88th minute.

I give up with saints fans I really do.

[Scobby_SJFC]

Games in which we were winning and drew killed us, not games we were losing by 2 goals going into the last couple of minutes.

This is a good point considering we were shocking all day and totally out played by all accounts and were 3-1 one down in the 88th minute.

I give up with saints fans I really do.

A good point given the situation, but drawing against teams like QOTS will not get us up this season!
If your happy with drawing against teams of this caliber I give up!

[Ray Blair]

I dont think he was happy with the result.Just the manner of it in the circumstances.

[blueheaven]

I find it quite tragic that some people on here are so quick to jump on Main's back without even having been at the game (and also conveniently neglecting to mention that the guy saved a penalty).

For every goal he concedes this season are we now going to have to put up with "If Cuthbert had done that he'd have been moaned at, blah, blah blah". The irony of course is that as a result of this he is taking the same amount of criticism that Cuthbert would have, so the point becomes a moot one. It's also very easy to make Cuthbert sound like Gordon Banks when he's not actually playing, but the fact is that if he was good enough he would be playing.

[Who Are You?]

A good point given the situation, but drawing against teams like QOTS will not get us up this season!
If your happy with drawing against teams of this caliber I give up!

Like RB said I was happy with circumstances we got the point shows fight, bottle and with Dunfermline losing it looks an even better point.

The performance was meant to have been poor which can happen, I reckon fans are too quick to write us off or talk us up.

Next week Stirling on paper our easiest game and im sure OC will ensure the performance and result are much better.

[Scobby_SJFC]

I find it quite tragic that some people on here are so quick to jump on Main's back without even having been at the game (and also conveniently neglecting to mention that the guy saved a penalty).

For every goal he concedes this season are we now going to have to put up with "If Cuthbert had done that he'd have been moaned at, blah, blah blah". The irony of course is that as a result of this he is taking the same amount of criticism that Cuthbert would have, so the point becomes a moot one. It's also very easy to make Cuthbert sound like Gordon Banks when he's not actually playing, but the fact is that if he was good enough he would be playing.

Very well said. He was beaten from 35 yards, if the shot is good enough no keeper will save it!

Secondly you have to look at the defence, you cannot blame Main if you weren't there to see what the defence in front of him was like, very easy to blame to goalkeeper!

[St. Paddy]

Son of a......

I left the house with 5 mins to go, was in a foul humour, now adding this to the gretna and dunfy results, a smile may reappear!

[mainstand]

Not a great start to the season but could have been worse.

Main lobbed again & beaten from 35 yards . Hope this is his usual 3 goal gift to QoS over for the season.

Given cagey's previous posts about alan Main I bet you didn't know whether to laugh or cry when you heard!!

Have to agree that main got caught for the first goal the second was a cracking strike and should have been closed down in midfield.

A draw in teh end is not a bad result and anyone that looks at getting a point down at Palmerston as being a bad result needs their head looked at. Teams will drop points on visits away from home.

for teh record are you Kevin Cuthbert's agent??

[saint_markperth]

Main should not have been so far off his line for the first two goals, Saved himself a little with the penalty save, McInness Looked Lost aswell as Lawrie. Goran, James,Hardie,Stewart played well and standout for me was Davie Weatherson!

[templeofsaints]

My take is up on the Temple now but FWIW we had far, far too many players that have either been reading their own publicity or just can't be arsed. Lawrie was hopeless, Main, despite the good penalty save, should have stopped at least one of the goals and seems to have real trouble communicating with the back four (how often did QoS get behind us or else there was a loose ball hanging about because neither keeper nor defence picked it up).

I'd also drop McManus for Ruti or Ando - he was far too slow today and it meant the entire right side of defence was exposed since Lawrie was all over the place. James made a lot of errors and Stanic looked out of place as well - didn't make for nice viewing.

Weatherston and Hardie were bright spots in midfield but Sheerin took ages to get into the game I thought but took his penalties well. As for McInnes, he was too slow, seemed unable to use his decades of experience to find a teammate with a pass and continually let McFarlane and the rest of the QoS midfield through.

Daal and Stewart looked ok up front with Peaso but they badly lacked support from the midfield. Again we had corners taken and nobody on the edge of the area to pick up on the half-clearances when James' headers were predictably cleared.

Unfortunately there aren't many bright spots. Weatherston was excellent although tired towards the end. But given his pace, it seemed strange that he wasn't used that much when he had room - we should be sticking balls out wide behind the defence for him to run onto. McCluskey looked good when he came on though. Stewart was ok and was unlucky not to score in the first half but the strikers need to start racking up the goals soon - cos the way the bloody defence is playing we're going to sell plenty at the other end.

[SheerLambRule]

was at the game - main definitely at fault for the first goal. the second was mixture of poor positioning and a good strike - caught underside of bar - wasnt sure it had landed over the line at first. queens penalty looked to have been poorly taken, dont think saving this cancels out alan's earlier mistakes. on the plus side weatherston looked very useful, and hardie put in a good shift wide left. defence was a shambles, queens looked like scoring everytime they got into the final third. ref had a good game, apart from not showing the red to that queens player that seemed to be behind every foul. we stole a point

[Shaggy Jenkins]

I know this comes up every year after a dodgy start but i still wonder how much of this is down to the lack of playing quality opposition in the run up to the opening of the season. Queens is the hardest team we have faced in a proper structured match to date. We have played well against teams of a lesser standard preseason, this builds up confidence etc but we are maybe lacking that sharpness that comes with playing teams of a similar or better standard as part of a pre season buld up. The last few games should be a real test IMO to build up sharpness and competitive edge. East fife and Brechin dont fall into this category

[Nick]

My thoughts on the game:

Day Light Robbery! We didn't deserve anything near a draw. Queens looked the hungrier and fitter team out their. Reminded me of the bad spell we had after the Rangers game!

The defence was everywhere. None of them could handle Dobbie (who proved again we shouldn't have let him go) and the presence of O'Connor. Lawrie was shite, but had a cracking last man tackle to stop a sure goal, after James messed up. McManus was also hopeless. Far to slow and Dobbie took the piss on countless of occasions. James posed no attacking threat as O'Connor was man marking him at set pieces. Goran i thought wasn;t his usual self. A few misplaced passes.

Weatherston was excellent when he took his man on, but didn't do it often enough. Seems to lack the confidence. Was quiet in the second half. Hardie was his usual self did seem a little unfit though and struggled to keep up with the play at times. But his determination took him on and scored a could be important goal. McInnes was posted missing the whole match. Queens won practically every ball in midfield, and had plenty of room their as McInnes was behind the play. Costing us the second goal. Sheerin seemed to turn back into the ghost of a few years ago.

Peaso and Stewart worked hard but go nothing. To similar in players to play together. Far to often their was no one in the box when a ball was played over.

I seen to many similar problems to last year. The players looked unfit(to old maybe) and lacked any motivation or determination to win the game. We do the same old boring set piece, even when it never works. A bit of variety would be nice. Coyle left the subs far to late to make an impact. James should have been stuck up front after we had made it three each - looked like we were playing for a draw even when we had the momentum.

Maybe I've been a bit harsh, but it was a dire performance.

Great Saints Support! Loads of us and noisy aswell!

[Cagey]

Given cagey's previous posts about alan Main I bet you didn't know whether to laugh or cry when you heard!!

Have to agree that main got caught for the first goal the second was a cracking strike and should have been closed down in midfield.

A draw in teh end is not a bad result and anyone that looks at getting a point down at Palmerston as being a bad result needs their head looked at. Teams will drop points on visits away from home.

for teh record are you Kevin Cuthbert's agent??

No I just think Cutjbert has been unfairly criticised on here especially by You & BH,so I just love to point out that Main has been lobbed more times in 4 or 5 games than Cuthbert has in 2 seasons.

Is Cuthbert not playing because of an ankle injury BH ?.

[Radford 72]

In Main's defence, it was defensive errors from Saints that led to their first two goals. O'Connor was in possession being shadowed by McManus and then Stanic knocks the ball off his toe straight to an unmarked Dobbie, then for the second Sheerin, running backwards, heads the ball straight to MacFarlane who was almost the only Queens player in our half and he hits it first time and as sweet as he ever will.

We were generally a shambles in defence and got rattled by Dobbie and O'Connor. Without that base, the rest of the team struggled but we still created plenty of chances. Queens had 4 shots on target and scored from three, with Dobbie missing the penalty which was the other.

Hopefully the kick up the arse we need, and only at the expense of 2 points, rather than 3.

[The Real Saints]

I want Dobbie back! :( He was far better than any of our non-existent strikeforce today! Our defence was abysmal, but I don't think that Main can really be to blame for either of the first two goals. Dobbie was excellent today, and his finishing is so precise. I would love it if he and my ex-favourite, rumoured to return player, Momo Sylla would come back to Saints. We really need a deadly finisher, and with the current array of strikers at the club, we do not have one.
We were very lucky and didn't deserve the draw, but I'll take it given the circumstances. The circumstances being that we were shocking. We need to sort this out now, but let's console ourselves for now, with the thought that we are currently ahead of Dunfermline! ;)
Weatherston MoM, very exciting player. Caused the QOS defence great problems with his speed. Also a well done to Hardie for grabbing that late equaliser.

[blueheaven]

No I just think Cutjbert has been unfairly criticised on here especially by You & BH,so I just love to point out that Main has been lobbed more times in 4 or 5 games than Cuthbert has in 2 seasons.

For the record, I can tell you for a fact that I've never criticised Cuthbert for getting lobbed. I don't actually think it's something that happens to him very often - in fact, I can't really recall hearing many people saying that about him, so I'm not really all that sure why you keep bringing it up. Come to think of it, you're the only person who ever seems to talk about Cuthbert getting lobbed on here.

Is Cuthbert not playing because of an ankle injury BH ?.

I don't know - if he has an injury, I'm not aware of what it is. He was on the bench though today, so if he is injured then it can't be that bad. I don't really think it matters though - the reason he's not playing isn't because he's injured, it's because he's not our first choice keeper.

[lampshade]

the defence was shocking today,infact the whole team was not that good today but,we got a draw at a very hard first game down at queens not many teams will go their and win this season,as for dobbie he was good today ,caused us alot of problems but stilll would not have him back, look at the size of him ,give the new lads a chance and a couple of home games under thier belt,and then see what happens.

[Al C]

Main should not have been so far off his line for the first two goals, Saved himself a little with the penalty save, McInness Looked Lost aswell as Lawrie. Goran, James,Hardie,Stewart played well and standout for me was Davie Weatherson!

Stewart??!!! Did he even kick the ball?? He looked totally uninterested and refused to make any kind of runs for midfielders to feed the ball into him. His slow walk off when substituted despite us being 3-1 down summed him up for me.

[Al C]

Lawrie was hopeless,

Lawrie did not have a great game in common with the rest of his teamates. However he did make a couple of terrific blocks that I can remember in the second half which kept us in it when you look back now. He covered for others mistakes to get across and make a tackle.

[templeofsaints]

Lawrie did not have a great game in common with the rest of his teamates. However he did make a couple of terrific blocks that I can remember in the second half which kept us in it when you look back now. He covered for others mistakes to get across and make a tackle.
True but at the same time he was caught out of position far too many times (not helped by McManus) and caught on the ball. I just don't think he has what's needed to be a right-back - certainly not first choice anyway.

[The Real Saints]

Quote from the Dobster -


"They always say that there's no better compliment in football than to get 'pelters' from the fans of your old club. And that's what happened this afternoon."


Legend. At least he can take it all in good spirit.

[Southpaw]

I thought it was pretty good game with two even teams. We had just as many chances (maybe even more) than QOS but the point is a good one in the circumstances.

Lawrie and McInnes were the worst players on the park and if we are looking at players it needs to be in those 2 positions.

[Radford 72]

I thought it was pretty good game with two even teams. We had just as many chances (maybe even more) than QOS but the point is a good one in the circumstances.
From Sportbox.tv...

Goal Attempts
Queen of the South 7
St Johnstone 18

On Target
Queen of the South 4
St Johnstone 11

Hit Woodwork
Queen of the South 0
St Johnstone 1

Corners
Queen of the South 2
St Johnstone 5

[mainstand]

Stewart??!!! Did he even kick the ball?? He looked totally uninterested and refused to make any kind of runs for midfielders to feed the ball into him. His slow walk off when substituted despite us being 3-1 down summed him up for me.


sure you weren't getting Stewart and Peaso mixed up

[Tranmere Saintee]

From Sportbox.tv...

Goal Attempts
Queen of the South 7
St Johnstone 18

On Target
Queen of the South 4
St Johnstone 11

Hit Woodwork
Queen of the South 0
St Johnstone 1

Corners
Queen of the South 2
St Johnstone 5

I presume Dobbies disallowed effort not taken into consideration for the stats (a decision I thought was dubious to say the least)?

[Calypso Kid]

Dobbies goal was legit. Main and defender on the goal line played him on. Poor performances today from James Lawrie Mciness. Main atoned for bad postioning with pen save.

Thank jesus for Martin Hardie. Head never went down and was a total pro. I can't praise the guy enough.

[MUZZ]

hardie's goal was the best drug in the world

[Radford 72]

Away support was 724.

[MUZZ]

Away support was 724.


thats brilliant for a long away trip

[Nairn Saint]

Queens 1 Saints 2. (Stewart and MacDonald) Stanic Man of the match.

That will do nicely! :***:

:oops:

[Tranmere Saintee]

Away support was 724.


Can I ask where you got this figure from - if it is anything to do with the cash from the turnstiles then it will be totally false with all the nonsense that was going on plus I managed to get one supporter and her bairn in free of charge (it will cost her man a pint some time :***: ).

[Radford 72]

Can I ask where you got this figure from - if it is anything to do with the cash from the turnstiles then it will be totally false with all the nonsense that was going on plus I managed to get one supporter and her bairn in free of charge (it will cost her man a pint some time :***: ).
I counted all our fans... but conviently, the QoS official website also carries the figure! :wink:

[StDuncM]

Just got back from the 380 mile trip and have to say that we mugged them in the end. Dick Turpin could not have planned it any better.

However the defence, especially James, were diabolical and surely cannot play worse. QoS were the masters of midfield and up front Dobbie ran amok, although he does still look a bit plump!

In the last 5 minutes we came to life with a bit of purpose and got lucky.

Hardie ran his heart out, Daal, when he came on, challenged everything, Weatherston was a class above his team mates. The rest just did not pass muster unless you count the first 2 minutes of the 2nd half when Coyle had obviously given them a rollocking at half time!

[StDuncM]

One further point is, how was the linesman able to say that their second strike was over the line when he was not up with play and, unless he had been a world class sprinter in a ferrari, he would not have been there anyway because the shot was from some distance maybe 30 yards.

A call for video referees I think?

[mainstand]

One further point is, how was the linesman able to say that their second strike was over the line when he was not up with play and, unless he had been a world class sprinter in a ferrari, he would not have been there anyway because the shot was from some distance maybe 30 yards.

A call for video referees I think?

Dunc it was a yard over the line though.

[Nairn Saint]

Dunc it was a yard over the line though.

Roy Carrol would have "saved" it! :***:

[StDuncM]

Dunc it was a yard over the line though.

Really? A Yard!! I wondered why Main did not protest!!!

Back to Specsavers for me then.

[Chansey]

A good point given the situation, but drawing
against teams like QOTS will not get us up this season!
If your happy with drawing against teams of this caliber I give up!

I am guessing you weren't at the game, Queens looked of decent calibre; solid and focussed at the back, with Dobbie and O'Connor worked tremendously for each other up front. And whilst they didn't have many chances took the ones that came thier way, and very weel i must add.

I have just read TOS' report and agree with it word for word. The defence cost us dear today, Mcmanus and Lawrie looked clueless, but both for different reasons. Lawrie seemed to have no knowledge of the game, his posistioning is rotten, and due to this unless a commanding figure tells him what he should be doing he as good as not playing. On the other hand Mcmanus thought he was Mr Bigshot and strolled around the pitch, clueless of how to deal with Dobbie or O'Connor.

Lawrie's performance brought back too many anxious moments from last season, and although at the end of last season thought he was improving, i feel another right back has to be priority, over even a central midfield player.

On a more upbeat note a great comeback from the boys, and very much a point gained, as 3-1 queens would have been a fair result. Today we have shown we still have the fighting spirit, and that is of great importance.

[LangToonSaint]

Take a point away from home in the first game of the season. We played good enough football yesterday but defence was all over the place. Weatherston was class first half but they played him better second half. Hopefully the signing target is a centre midfielder as we are in urgent need of one. I think if we had McFarlane in centre midfield today instead of McInnes we would have won quite easily.

[Saintkev]

We never played well as a team... but showed a lot of battle and heart, we all know they can play better and will do so... so that coupled with the fight should see us in good stead for this season.

[Betty Lavette]

We never played well as a team... but showed a lot of battle and heart, we all know they can play better and will do so... so that coupled with the fight should see us in good stead for this season.

................. I think this sums up yesterday spot on. We were absolutely gash in defence with McManus stuggling badly, Dobbie ran rings round us. Have to give huge credit to Weatherston who played a blinder, his runs at defence from the side were great to watch.

I think there were some positives and certainly the fightback near the end of the match is something we have not had for a couple of seasons.

I am still quietly confident, bring on the "coags".............

[tbaysaint]

when will the match highlights be on the official site does anyone know?

[Nick]

There not allowed to put them on till 24 hours after the game I think.

[Hazel1884]

Not much to add on what's been said but that was a game we would have lost at the start of last season, without a doubt. The players went that extra mile in the last 5 minutes yesterday and fought hard and got the reward. Great spirit.

Been well documented on but the defence couldn't settle yesterday and Weatherston ended up dropping back far more than he should have. Said it all when Goran Stanic was over defending on the right hand side. Hopefully be worked on this week during training and be sorted for Stirling Albion.

I think we're also not giving Queens enough credit also, we're looking at it from our point of view in which we were disappointing bar a few players Queens were well up for it and have assembled a good squad. We are still trying our striker partnership, whereas O'Connor and Dobbie are settled and this will be their season after gelling last year. I thought the latter (and i'm being genuine here, not biased) had a point to prove and i think he did. Thought he played well yesterday. Neil McFarlane battled for them in midfield and their goalkeeper commanded well and made a few good, confident saves. Was he signed in the summer? I didn't catch his name.

[Radford 72]

Their goalkeeper commanded well and made a few good, confident saves. Was he signed in the summer? I didn't catch his name.
It's Jamie MacDonald, on loan from Hearts again. He's a decent 'keeper to be honest.

Regarding the highlights, is it certain we'll be able to us away games? I know other clubs do but that's there own highlights AFAIK. Do Saints video away games as well as home games?

[Chuck Norris]

when will the match highlights be on the official site does anyone know?
Wouldn't guarantee that you'll get highlights of away games. Perth College are supplying highlights of the home games, as far as I know.

[Chansey]

It's Jamie MacDonald, on loan from Hearts again. He's a decent 'keeper to be honest.


Yeah definatley a prospect, up there with the best in the league i would say. A couple of guys along from didn't seem to agree though....

[dunblanemike]

It's Jamie MacDonald, on loan from Hearts again. He's a decent 'keeper to be honest.



He certainly made a good save from a Sheerin effort in the first half. Shot look destined for the bottom corner - I thought it was in all the way and was up out of my seat. V embarrassed when he saved it! :oops:

[Barrow & Saints]

My thoughts on the game:

Day Light Robbery! We didn't deserve anything near a draw. Queens looked the hungrier and fitter team out their. Reminded me of the bad spell we had after the Rangers game!

The defence was everywhere. None of them could handle Dobbie (who proved again we shouldn't have let him go) and the presence of O'Connor. Lawrie was shite, but had a cracking last man tackle to stop a sure goal, after James messed up. McManus was also hopeless. Far to slow and Dobbie took the piss on countless of occasions. James posed no attacking threat as O'Connor was man marking him at set pieces. Goran i thought wasn;t his usual self. A few misplaced passes.

Weatherston was excellent when he took his man on, but didn't do it often enough. Seems to lack the confidence. Was quiet in the second half. Hardie was his usual self did seem a little unfit though and struggled to keep up with the play at times. But his determination took him on and scored a could be important goal. McInnes was posted missing the whole match. Queens won practically every ball in midfield, and had plenty of room their as McInnes was behind the play. Costing us the second goal. Sheerin seemed to turn back into the ghost of a few years ago.

Peaso and Stewart worked hard but go nothing. To similar in players to play together. Far to often their was no one in the box when a ball was played over.

I seen to many similar problems to last year. The players looked unfit(to old maybe) and lacked any motivation or determination to win the game. We do the same old boring set piece, even when it never works. A bit of variety would be nice. Coyle left the subs far to late to make an impact. James should have been stuck up front after we had made it three each - looked like we were playing for a draw even when we had the momentum.

Maybe I've been a bit harsh, but it was a dire performance.

Great Saints Support! Loads of us and noisy aswell!


I went up to Palmerston yesterday and couldn't of put this better myself. Queens were the better side and the Saints performance was a total contrast from the last game I saw the 2-0 win at Gretna.

Did anyone notice that when the second penalty went in the cheering was a bit subdued as though many were slightly embarassed that Saints had to rely on two penalties to get into the game rather from open play.

I hope I see a better performance when I come up to Perth for the Dundee game in a couple of weeks.

[Al C]

sure you weren't getting Stewart and Peaso mixed up

Nope, could not believe the abuse Peaso was getting from some folk, not his greatest game by a long way but to me he was trying and had a couple of attempts, not to mention the pass that put Weatherston away for the first penalty.

If people genuninely think Stewart did more in that game that Peaso then I must have been at the wrong game :)

[TheBigCheese]

I don't know what to think about Saturday, going forward I thought we looked very good but at the back - the area I thought would be our strength this season - we were bloody awful thoughout. Lawrie and McManus were both terrible (Lawrie's excellent tackle on O'Connor being the only thing he did right all day) and James seemed incapable of winning a header. Stanic was the only defender who played well and he was extremely unlucky to give away a penalty for next to nothing.

For the Queens goals I thought Main's positioning was poor for the first goal but he might well have expected that someone would have closed down Dobbie or that his defence could clear their lines. He certainly wasn't at fault for the second which was a cracking strike but again the defence failed to clear their lines or close down a man. The third had been coming all day, Lawrie letting a ball bounce over his head instead of challenging then getting nowhere near the ball - a new right back is a priority.

The big plus form Saturday was Weatherston, he's skillful and pacey but doesn't feel the need to beat his man four or five times before going past him. That sort of direct play will work well in this league and long may it continue. Stewart, on first look, looks a bit to lightweight to do anything at this level and Daal looks like Bambi on Ice but seems to be able to put himself about a wee bit more than stewart does.

Overall the performance was a bit dissapointing but if every game has the excitement that one had then I won't complain.

[SaintSam1884]

Daal looks like Bambi on ice!

Haha! That is such a good description of Daal at times.

[st Tommy]

I thought we looked alot better when Daal came on. The 'Big striker, wee striker' combo seemed to suit us better. Also thought MMMH came more influential when Daal came on. In the first half most of the balls were aimed at him and he wasnt getting any, then when 'Bambi on ice' came on he was able to get the flick ons and second balls as he wasnt the main target man.