View Full Version : Saints vs. Clyde 27/10/07
Nairn Saint
24-10-2007, 10:09 PM
What's the feeling for this weekend's match against Clyde?
More of the same would do nicely for me!
Saints must win to keep in touch with Hamilton so that when their bottle crashes..........
SJFC1988,
24-10-2007, 10:34 PM
4-1 saints
razz the kid
24-10-2007, 10:40 PM
I think we will do the business again this week. on a goo run just now and could have scored a barrel load last week so same team and hopefully a convincing win
3 or 4 -0
superhans
24-10-2007, 10:47 PM
a win fo shizzle
the doc has been tremendous so far, really helped aj find his feet. Any margin will do so long as we stay clear of injuries for Dens
dan the saint
24-10-2007, 10:55 PM
5-1 win doc with 2 jacko with 2 and Sheerin with a pk and Clyde with end th game with 10 men.
SaintSam1884
25-10-2007, 12:06 AM
We should beat them easily, worst Clyde team I've ever seen.
They might be this seasons Livingston though.
stanley saint
25-10-2007, 09:04 AM
i hope the doc will remember his scoring boots... i might leave a message with his receptionist ......
Scobby_SJFC
26-10-2007, 04:18 PM
An essential 3 points needed here, and we all know what Clyde can do when we dont turn up, as we all to confident of scoring a bucket load into them at Broadwood earlier in the season!
A nice win again this weekend, and hopefully a slip up from Dundee and Hamilton would be ideal
Hazel1884
26-10-2007, 05:00 PM
I think that although we are playing good football just now, we shouldn't be getting over confidence above. To expect 5-1 against a stuffy Clyde side which do have a few cracking players, especially defenders is quite arrogant.
I'd hope to see an unchanged side from the one that started against Queens last week but possibly the bench having a wee shake up if there are players injured from Tuesday night. Incidentally i see Moon and Daal are added to the injury list.
Should see us come away from 3 points, but it will be 3 points we will have to work hard for as we always do against teams like this - its games like this last year we were drawing when we were going in over-confident and not putting the effort in.
The ghost of Jim Morton
26-10-2007, 05:19 PM
A decent win for Saints....provided our backfour remain alert and focused for the full 90 minutes. (as they did against Queens last week). The forwards are on fire at the moment and they WILL have a good amount of chances which I expect them to convert into goals. The midfield is looking stronger by the week and I also expect at least 1 goal to come from them tommorrow, if not 2
Clyde are doing okay but thats it, nothing more.Three points coming our way and another clean sheet for Main. 4-0 Saints ( Doc,Jacko2,Sheerin)and if we really get at them maybe 6-0. We are well capable of a big win. Hope we get an early goal which will settle us and provide the platform for us to go on, and send out a message to all our opponents ........
Come on ye Saints......Come on ye Saints
Lets just get a win and keep up the pressure on the other two heaps of pish. Keep the faith comrades.
Cagey
26-10-2007, 07:17 PM
Indeed. I hate this talk of 4/5 nil. lets just get the 3 points & hope for a good display & a big score.
Coltrane
26-10-2007, 08:21 PM
Aye, too much optimism around here 2-0 to Clyde (Just to get our karma back on track)
Perth-Saint
26-10-2007, 08:39 PM
Indeed. I hate this talk of 4/5 nil. lets just get the 3 points & hope for a good display & a big score.
yip
The ghost of Jim Morton
26-10-2007, 08:50 PM
You cannae win can you!!!!!! Your either a miserable b*stard doom and gloom merchant( as I was called earlier in the season or at least words to that effect) when you say Saints are not gonna win and when you opine that we're not good enough...or.....Your too perky and over confident when you say that Saints are gonna give a diddy team a doing( and ladies and gentlemen Clyde ARE a diddy team and those of you who think otherwise are obviously lacking confidence).We're gonna hammer them and if we don't then we don't deserve to be considered as potential league champions.We are a very good team who are playing well and getting better and better as the weeks pass. Our home form over the last two years has been second to none in this division and teams like Clyde,QOS and Stirling will suffer when they play us at our very best....
Get it up the diddy team....The're pish..:wink:
dunblanemike
26-10-2007, 08:52 PM
You cannae win can you!!!!!! Your either a miserable b*stard doom and gloom merchant( as I was called earlier in the season or at least words to that effect) when you say Saints are not gonna win and when you opine that we're not good enough...or.....Your too perky and over confident when you say that Saints are gonna give a diddy team a doing( and ladies and gentlemen Clyde ARE a diddy team and those of you who think otherwise are obviously lacking confidence).We're gonna hammer them and if we don't then we don't deserve to be considered as potential league champions.We are a very good team who are playing well and getting better and better as the weeks pass. Our home form over the last two years has been second to none in this division and teams like Clyde,QOS and Stirling will suffer when they play us at our very best....
Get it up the diddy team....The're pish..:wink:
you can tell we are coming up to Halloween - the ghosts are getting tetchy!! :cool: :D
The ghost of Jim Morton
26-10-2007, 08:53 PM
You cannae win can you!!!!!! Your either a miserable b*stard doom and gloom merchant( as I was called earlier in the season or at least words to that effect) when you say Saints are not gonna win and when you opine that we're not good enough...or.....Your too perky and over confident when you say that Saints are gonna give a diddy team a doing( and ladies and gentlemen Clyde ARE a diddy team and those of you who think otherwise are obviously lacking confidence).We're gonna hammer them and if we don't then we don't deserve to be considered as potential league champions.We are a very good team who are playing well and getting better and better as the weeks pass. Our home form over the last two years has been second to none in this division and teams like Clyde,QOS and Stirling will suffer when they play us at our very best....
Get it up the diddy team....The're pish..:wink:
I realise I might have to eat my words as anything can happen in football but I stand by my thoughts.....
The ghost of Jim Morton
26-10-2007, 08:57 PM
you can tell we are coming up to Halloween - the ghosts are getting tetchy!! :cool: :D
Hope it doesn't come back to HAUNT me. The SPECTERE of me eating humble pie is SPOOKY ......:***:
Perth-Saint
26-10-2007, 11:57 PM
Steve Milne could start for Saints for the first time since January when Clyde visit McDiarmid Park.
Milne, who has not made a first-team appearance since March, is ready to return after a long spell on the sidelines with a knee injury
the bbc reports
Broon
27-10-2007, 01:05 AM
Steve Milne could start for Saints for the first time since January when Clyde visit McDiarmid Park.
Milne, who has not made a first-team appearance since March, is ready to return after a long spell on the sidelines with a knee injury
the bbc reports
Any manager who messes around with a strikeforce on fire like ours should be fired in an instant. Coyle seems to like milne though.....:wink:
Radford 72
27-10-2007, 08:34 AM
No chance of Savo starting but with Coyle playing down his return to first team action, if he's on the bench, I wouldn't be surprised at all, especially as Peaso and Dyron are likely to be missing and Andy Lawrie's abduction means we have no defensive cover.
Jose predicts:
Same side as last week with the subbies as Cuthbert, McCluskey, Weatherston, Stewart, Savo.
dave mc
27-10-2007, 10:12 AM
I think even Jose would have some defensive cover on the bench,possibly Rusty if he passes fitness test.
6-0 or i'm never going back
Hazel1884
27-10-2007, 10:37 AM
and Andy Lawrie's abduction means we have no defensive cover.
:***: :***:
I seen him last week, is he injured? Or just 'out of favour' for the bench now?
The ghost of Jim Morton
27-10-2007, 01:00 PM
Getting ready to leave for the game...3 points and a good game hopefully. Lets get right behind the boys and give it some whammy.....
We're blue we're white ,we're fecking dynamite,Super Saints, Super Saints
The Real Saints
27-10-2007, 01:35 PM
I'm looking forward to this one, and am fairly confident of a good result. However, all I'm hoping for is a good performance and 3 points. A huge win would obviously be a bonus however.
No changes should be made to the starting XI. It would be great to see Savo on the bench though, and maybe getting a run out for the last 15-20 minutes or so.
garydavidson
27-10-2007, 02:15 PM
I have only seen milne play about 20 mins in that fateful match against partick last season which we dont talk about.
he looked really sharp and hungry. he would probably work well with big dr k. but for the moment i would leave things as they are if we are 2 up after 60-70 mins i would thow milne in.
Johnstoun
27-10-2007, 02:49 PM
Main
Irvine, Ando, McManus, Stanic
McInnes, Quinn, Sheerin, McLaren
Doc, Jacko
Bench: Cuthbert, Stewart, MacDonald, McCluskey, Weatherston
Dunfermline Saint
27-10-2007, 03:07 PM
It's quite a good sign when the team is esentially picking itself like ours is just now. Most people on the forum could've told you that was going ot be the team.
Dunfermline Saint
27-10-2007, 03:23 PM
Clyde have had 2 bookings already. Enhancing further their reputation as a warm and friendly bunch of players!
Dunfermline Saint
27-10-2007, 03:36 PM
1-0 Stirling v Dunfermline.
oh dear oh dear oh dear!!
blueheaven
27-10-2007, 03:36 PM
Bench: Cuthbert, Stewart, MacDonald, McCluskey, Weatherston
Not a lot of defensive options on the bench are there!
Dunfermline Saint
27-10-2007, 03:38 PM
Well known fact that attack is the best form of defence......hopefully!
Indicator
27-10-2007, 03:39 PM
Clyde have had 2 bookings already. Enhancing further their reputation as a warm and friendly bunch of players!
Clyde have been a bit of a 'Bogey Team' over the last few years, ending some of our good runs. They have managed to upset our apple cart on more than one occasion. Let's hope it's not more of the same today.
garydavidson
27-10-2007, 03:45 PM
jason just scored for swansea and dundee are 1 down :)
Moray Blue
27-10-2007, 03:47 PM
0-0 HT.
5 Yellows so far. 2 for Saints (Irvine and Quinn), 3 for Clyde
garydavidson
27-10-2007, 04:18 PM
official site said -"There are no goals in the first half of today's game against Clyde and although Saints have edged possession and the creation of goalscoring chances they have been left frustrated.
Kenny Deuchar has had four chances to score and he hasn't done much wrong - just left to watch as defenders and Clyde keeper Hutton have denied him. With five players booked in the first half the concern has to be whether the two teams will end up with all the men on the pitch at the end."
Dunfermline Saint
27-10-2007, 04:23 PM
Weatherston on for oor wullie.
Scobby_SJFC
27-10-2007, 04:26 PM
C'mon Saints we need a win!!
Dunfermline Saint
27-10-2007, 04:31 PM
1-0 Clyde. Imrie.
Scobby_SJFC
27-10-2007, 04:31 PM
Bollocks, why cant we beat them!!!
Moray Blue
27-10-2007, 04:31 PM
oh bugger!
garydavidson
27-10-2007, 04:33 PM
noooooo
Scobby_SJFC
27-10-2007, 04:36 PM
We need two rapid goals, at least one to keep our home record!!
Dunfermline Saint
27-10-2007, 04:36 PM
McCluskey on for McInnes.
Dunfermline Saint
27-10-2007, 04:39 PM
1-1 Dr Deuchar!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Moray Blue
27-10-2007, 04:39 PM
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Scobby_SJFC
27-10-2007, 04:39 PM
Dr Goals yasssssss
garydavidson
27-10-2007, 04:41 PM
one more we can do it :) we like doing that to clyde.
Scobby_SJFC
27-10-2007, 04:43 PM
Kenny will be seeing a P45 on monday i think 3-0 Albion!!
Dunfermline Saint
27-10-2007, 04:48 PM
Ft 1-1
Moray Blue
27-10-2007, 04:48 PM
FT 1-1.
8 yellows, 3-5
Scobby_SJFC
27-10-2007, 04:48 PM
1-1 dear oh dear!!!
Coltrane
27-10-2007, 04:51 PM
Ah well......
garydavidson
27-10-2007, 05:07 PM
not like we cant beat them just we have not done it this seson.
clyde have been draw experts for a while now.
The ghost of Jim Morton
27-10-2007, 05:12 PM
I realise I might have to eat my words as anything can happen in football but I stand by my thoughts.....
:confused:
Clyde are still a diddy team but add to that a cheating hacking bunch of unambitious twats.Saints played good for the first 10 mins then just stopped.The ref was as bad as I,ve ever seen and lost complete control of the game. He loved the sound of his own whistle.I still say we should be humping teams like Clyde but we have to change our tactics and play the ball on the floor rather than the hump it up the park style.overall a pretty poor display from Saints and thank god for their goalie.Few Saintees get pass marks today.Just got to move on ,get ready for Scumdee next week and believing that today was just a hiccup .Mon the Saints....
Cagey
27-10-2007, 05:20 PM
First half was mainly Saints but lack of urgency & poor finishing left it 0-0 at half time. Second half belonged to Clyde who scored from a cross/shot that went in with Main nowhere.
Were Saints,especially Deuchers ,playing in trainers as they were more on thier arses than on their feet . Only Ando & McManus with passmarks with McInness having one of his better games.
Poor cross from Deuchers knocked into his own net by Hutton saved us from another embarassing result.Are we going to let Hamilton run away with this league even with thier best player out for months.
The players must have went out with the same attitude all those thinking we were going to win 4/5 nil.
Disappointing game. Only sprung to life after Clyde scored.
Todays game was far to One dimensional with the defenders just looking to punt it to Deuchar every time. The midfield was non-existent because of this.
Sheerin had a poor game and should have been taken off, and McLaren should be played on the left instead of the right. If we have Deuchar in the box we want players hitting the byline and crossing. McLaren can't do that on the right hand side.
Irvine played his worst game for Saints. Imrie owned him every single time, and he was at fault for Clydes goal.
Disappointing stuff. We had chances to score just like last week, but failed to take them.
Jamie_Beatson
27-10-2007, 05:28 PM
Deal with the game first - Thought we controlled the first half and were unfortunate not to score. We certainly had chances and should have put at least one away.
We didn't turn up for the first part of the second half, although we did start to come in to it. Thought McInnes had gone back to his usual role of chasing shadows after a couple of half decent matches. His role is to break up play and win the ball but he very rarely did that today IMO.
Disappointed McLaren was the first man subbed as well - thought he looked pretty dangerous.
Both goals were total freaks. Clyde's came after Irvine committed himself to a tackle that he didn't get close to winning, and Dougie Imrie tried to swing in a deep cross to the Clyde men in the middle. It ended up bending in to Alan Main's top corner.
Ours came when Deuchar picked the ball up on the left and mishit his cross for MacDonald. Clyde's keeper somehow fumbled it into the back of the net. All in all their keeper was dreadful throughout and twice totally flapped at crosses which Deuchar won. He was fortunate to have men behind him both times to clear the danger.
On to the ref (what was his name btw?). Simply the worst referee I have ever seen. The game was not in any way nasty, yet eight men were booked. Most for their first tackles. Rocco Quinn was booked after the Clyde man squared up to him. Quinn shrugged his shoulders and asked the ref to do something about it, and they both saw yellow cards.
The incident that really summed up how bad the ref was came fairly late on. Anderson played the ball back for Main who slipped, and with the ball heading for the net Main scrambled back and dived on the ball. He landed with it on the goal line. Anyone at the north end of the East Stand (as I was) would have had a great view - as did the linesman.
Main pulled himself off of the ball slightly as if to show the linesman it hadn't gone out for a corner, and as he lifted his chest off of it Clyde's forward stabbed at it with his right foot, knocking it across the line where it then hit Main's arm. The linesman, who was perfectly placed, signalled a goal kick, which Main promptly took and passed to Stanic at left back.
Clyde's boy then had a word with the ref, who blew his whistle and pointed for a corner. The linesman instantly raised his flag, which the ref ignored. However, he didn't put it down and eventually the ref came over, and after a lengthy discussion he reluctantly gave us the goal kick again.
How he possibly thought he was in a position to overrule the linesman is beyond me. The linesman was looking along the line and had a perfect view of the line, the ball and who it had it. The ref was standing near enough thirty yards out in the middle of the pitch - there is no way he could have seen what had happened - much like the Quinn booking where he clearly hadn't seen what happened.
In short, he was a self important prick who wanted to be the star of the show, and ruined what was potentially a good game of football with his persistent whistle blowing for every slight touch. By dishing out so many yellow cards early he set a precedent and couldn't get away from it, meaning basically any semi strong tackle was resulting in a booking.
Totally inconsistent, arrogant and useless in every way.
Saintly Child
27-10-2007, 05:30 PM
Poor stuff very frustating. I think Saints will get in bother with the missle being thrown at the ref.
Real Madrid
27-10-2007, 05:37 PM
If we cannot beat a team like Clyde we are not going to win the league ! They are the worst team in the league, have so little ability and their whole game is based on physical contact, time wasting and trying to get the ball to the one player in their team with any class Imrie.
We had no midfield today and Sheerin needs a rest before he becomes the next target of the fans
I know it was wet today but so our players only have one set of boots as they slipped as often in the second half as they did in the first!
but on the bright side at least were not Pars fans :D
mainstand
27-10-2007, 05:51 PM
[QUOTE=Real Madrid;105855]If we cannot beat a team like Clyde we are not going to win the league ! They are the worst team in the league, have so little ability and their whole game is based on physical contact, time wasting and trying to get the ball to the one player in their team with any class Imrie.
/QUOTE]
I don't think that gives clyde the credit they deserve. Yes there play is built eound rough house tactics but they played some nice football and in Imroe I thought they had the best player on the park,.
Over the game as a whole a draw was a fair result. As for the ref I think Jamie says it all.
Real Madrid
27-10-2007, 05:58 PM
If we cannot beat a team like Clyde we are not going to win the league ! They are the worst team in the league, have so little ability and their whole game is based on physical contact, time wasting and trying to get the ball to the one player in their team with any class Imrie.
I don't think that gives clyde the credit they deserve. Yes there play is built eound rough house tactics but they played some nice football and in Imroe I thought they had the best player on the park,.
Over the game as a whole a draw was a fair result. As for the ref I think Jamie says it all.
What game were you at, would you let any of your youth teams play like that
They are a disgrace, time wasting from about 10 minutes into the game at every throw in and players going down all the time. Notice all that stopped when we scored! They have played that way for years and I honestly thought that Colin Hendry would change things around but maybe that's the Clyde way
Ronaldo
27-10-2007, 06:00 PM
Imrie did look good but Saints didn't play well enough not to drop points against a team we should have beaten. Clyde did set out to get a draw and could even have won but for the Doctor
We need to step up there's a lot of hard games coming up. Bring on Dundee!
dunblanemike
27-10-2007, 06:25 PM
As Jamie has already pointed out, the ref was whistle-happy and made the game very stop-start, which to my mind always makes things easier for the weaker side. It must be extremely frustrating for the players when you get a ref like that and I reckon it was he more than anyone that stopped saints building up any momentum.
...and as for the twat who threw something at the ref. You will most likely be on camera, whoever you are. Plus, as SC has pointed out, you have probably got my club in a spot of bother.
clyde should be pissed off they never won that game.
the wee prick who threw the object at the linesman was sat right in front of me.
Hazel1884
27-10-2007, 06:46 PM
Thought the ref was appauling today but you can't blame him for it all! Maybe the players entered the game with some of the fans attitudes like they had on here before the game - that i hope not!!
We failed to break down a stuffy Clyde side who set up very defensively for their visit to McDiarmid. However, as we continued to fail to break them down our visitors came out looking hungry for the points and we were there for the taking.
Got to question also, could they not have had a change of studs or something at half time? I know it's hard to prevent in some conditions but our players were on their arses more often than not from slipping!
Thought McLaren looked dangerous today and must know how well Weatherston played on Tuesday night! Was surprised he was the first one off.
Funny feeling Clyde are going to be our bogey side this season after our 2 performances against them!
templeofsaints
27-10-2007, 06:49 PM
We got out of jail a bit but if we'd been a bit sharper in the first half we should have wrapped up the points. Midfield were poor - too slow to support the front men and too slow to get back and close down any breaks. There is a tendency for long balls for the Doc but the Clyde defence was as good as any I've seen this season - kept their shape well and played to their strengths.
As for the ref - he was card and whistle-happy but I've got some praise for him for at least picking up on the sort of stuff players try and get away with most weeks - sneaking yards at throw-ins, foul throws and kicking the ball away.
The arse that threw something on the park should be banned for life - idiots like that we can easily do without.
mainstand
27-10-2007, 07:29 PM
What game were you at, would you let any of your youth teams play like that
They are a disgrace, time wasting from about 10 minutes into the game at every throw in and players going down all the time. Notice all that stopped when we scored! They have played that way for years and I honestly thought that Colin Hendry would change things around but maybe that's the Clyde way
The same game as the majority of teh above posts. Yes as I said Clyde were there for a draw and set about it in that way, but when they got the ball down they played some nice football.
mainstand
27-10-2007, 07:30 PM
the wee prick who threw the object at the linesman was sat right in front of me.
Mus out of curiosity what you did about it? Did you say anything to him, call for the steward etc?
monkfish
27-10-2007, 07:31 PM
Silly match. Clyde are well used to playing humph it up the park football, so why we decided to try and beat them at their own game when its blowing a gale I don't know. It seems that if we are not up by a goal after 20 mins or so we start getting edgy, stop passing it and start booting it.
Draw was probably fair, Imrie's goal was a beast, I don't think you can blame Main that much. Deucher's goal was ridiculous, we shouldn't have to be riding our luck to beat Clyde at home.
As everyone's said, the referee was really really bad. Didn't have a clue. How can you be officating at a national second tier if you are blowing for a goal kick, allowing it to be taken, then trying to change your mind and bring it back?
Alan Freeland and Charlie Richmond, and now Euan Norris. Why bother with the other 22 people on the pitch?
Mus out of curiosity what you did about it? Did you say anything to him, call for the steward etc?
to be fair, he was a few rows in front of me and i'm not a grass. he actually did it twice during the game.
emptyheed
27-10-2007, 07:54 PM
just back in from the game and pretty disapointed
never really got started in the 1st half but their defence deserve some credit 4 that
dont really understand people sayin wullie mclaren lookin dangerous, he spends the majority of the game shoutin 4 passes when he is miles offside
lessons hopefully learnt for the scumdee game as they will play basically the same game
mon the saints
willie mclaren has been playing well but i feel weatherston creates oppositon teams a lot more problems. if weatherston had mclarens end product he'd be some player to have
Cagey
27-10-2007, 08:31 PM
Weatherston never really did that much when he came on but I think we needed to make that sub at half time. Weatherston must start in place of Wullie next week because as someone said he is not getting the crosses in because he is playing on the wrong wing. Irvine puts in more dangerous crosses than him.
Owen never tried to change it `til it was too late, which is his biggest fault.
These posts labelling Clyde a "diddy team" etc are completely wide of the mark. I don't think we have beaten Clyde by more than a single goal ever since we were relegated from SPL in 2002 - am sure someone can confirm this. Indeed I would reckon the overall record must be pretty close to 50/50 over that time period.
There is no way we should have gone into todays game with any air of complacency about us due simply to the record over recent years and also because they beat us earlier in the season.
St Mikey
27-10-2007, 08:46 PM
willie mclaren has been playing well but i feel weatherston creates oppositon teams a lot more problems. if weatherston had mclarens end product he'd be some player to have
Can we no do a Frankenstein operation on them??
Everything was poor today. Was like a tennis match cause we completely missed the midfield.
Waste of cash in my view. We cheer at Dundee losing or drawing but we should only be concerned with ourselves. We are 10 points behind now. Played Clyde twice now and we can't break them down. Ref card and whistle happy which was a complete joke.
pavel
27-10-2007, 09:02 PM
What was Peaso all about?! Great substitution, not!
McClaren refused to make a run down the wing. He kept coming short for a pass from Irvine. He should have been getting to the byline more with Irvine feeding the ball through. Weatherston should have started.
Easy to say that now though!
Put a little pressure on Irvine and he craps it. He was shocking 2nd half.
St Mikey
27-10-2007, 09:05 PM
Put a little pressure on Irvine and he craps it. He was shocking 2nd half.
I agree totally, however, he was on a booking and the way the ref was being card happy, if Imrie run at him and he put a tackle in the cheat would've dived and he'd have been off. No much protection from Right Mid and a Centre half.
They never protected each other.
LONG BALLS ARE NOT FOOTBALL
Indicator
27-10-2007, 09:35 PM
Wasn't it Clyde that 'did us' twice in the space of 5 days the season before last. Knocking us out of the cup and then halting our good run in the league ?
Bogey Team indeed...
Perth-Saint
27-10-2007, 09:37 PM
Wasn't it Clyde that 'did us' twice in the space of 5 days the season before last. Knocking us out of the cup and then halting our good run in the league ?
Bogey Team indeed...
That was St.mirren
Indicator
27-10-2007, 10:05 PM
That was St.mirren
TUVM - They're still a bogey team.
For the last three seasons Falkirk, St Mirren, Gretna just kept winning and left us too much to do - and now Hamilton...? appear to be doing the same.
Ray Blair
27-10-2007, 10:24 PM
We really were very lucky to avoid defeat today.The only positive I can take is that we are thrre points better off than we were this stage of the first quarter.
I am now away to look at the Pars website..................
We really were very lucky to avoid defeat today.The only positive I can take is that we are thrre points better off than we were this stage of the first quarter.
I am now away to look at the Pars website..................
How many points behind the leaders were we at this stage of the first quarter???
Perth-Saint
27-10-2007, 10:56 PM
I am now away to look at the Pars website..................
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williamwonka
28-10-2007, 01:44 AM
those numptys who through the pen lid are a right bunch of mindless idiots
I hated the ref too but thats just stupid throwing anything at him!We are moaning at the ref for wanting to be the centre of attention and you come out with that!!whoever you are I hope you get a grip! pillick.
Hazel1884
28-10-2007, 08:53 AM
Bit of perspective folks! It was a poor draw, but Clyde set themselves up for that and they are the only team to beat us in the league this season! We''ll bounce back. 3 points would have been nice but 1 point is better than nothing!!
Massive game next week, good day out for Dundee, hopefully 3 points, with better weather conditions and the chance to put things right...HAMILTON WILL GO THROUGH A STICKY SPELL....
Radford 72
28-10-2007, 08:56 AM
Diabolical from Saints yesterday. Our best three players were Main, McManus and Anderson, which says it all. Quinn had his worst game in a Saints shirt but it's difficult to be too harsh on him as the ball by-passed him for most of the game. Credit Clyde for pressing us but we had to be braver and remain true to the way we've been playing in recent weeks, not take the easy option of looking for Kenny Deuchar at the first opportunity. Irvine had his worst game for us as well but was walking a tightrope after the early booking. If Dougie Imrie is playing poorly at the moment, I'd hate to see him playing well.
Subs should have been on earlier after their performances midweek and McLaren should never have been hooked, Coyle should have got him across to the left and then either McCluksey or Weatherston on the right.
I doubt we are going to win this league so I don't want to have to endure more performances like that, last season throwing balls forward looking for a lucky break was acceptable when we really needed it, this season we aren't at that level in the table so I wish we'd just tried to continue playing like we have done since the start of September and not this long ball pish.
Easy to take frustrations out on the referee when we are playing like that but games between Saints and Clyde are never easy to handle.
Important thing is to make sure it's a one-off poor performance and doesn't materialise into a run of form and maybe next time we'll get Clyde on one of their off days.
LewGti
28-10-2007, 09:37 AM
These posts labelling Clyde a "diddy team" etc are completely wide of the mark. I don't think we have beaten Clyde by more than a single goal ever since we were relegated from SPL in 2002
I am pretty sure we gubbed the 3 - 0 at broadwood about a week after they beat Celtic, but thats the only time that springs to mind. Sorry if this has been said, havnt read other posts yet.
Perth-Saint
28-10-2007, 09:57 AM
HAMILTON WILL GO THROUGH A STICKY SPELL....
I hope your right
Radford 72
28-10-2007, 11:04 AM
I am pretty sure we gubbed the 3 - 0 at broadwood about a week after they beat Celtic, but thats the only time that springs to mind. Sorry if this has been said, havnt read other posts yet.
We were gubbing them 3-0, then did a Saints and lost two late goals. We have recorded a couple fo 3-0 wins at home though, one under Stark (Nov 03) and one under Connolly (Nov 04).
Indicator
28-10-2007, 12:56 PM
The drift I am getting from what is being said on here, and on P&B::
We needed to score first against Clyde. If it was so obvious that they came with the idea of sitting back and making it difficult a quick goal may have caused them to change their style of play. If it's their usual game surely teams (and us) should be wise to it by now, if not able to do anything about it. Bet Hamilton don't get caught out by it though.
monkfish
28-10-2007, 02:20 PM
I think the players didn't start right after half time as well. We were playing like there was 10 mins left for the whole half instead of keeping it down and passing it about. Especially with that ref, when we had it on the ground they were giving away a lot of fouls when we ran it at them. Sheerin was a bit rubbish with his delivery, but winning a few more set pieces would of given us a better chance.
Radford 72
28-10-2007, 04:01 PM
We needed to score first against Clyde.
Spot on, and early as well. We played decent enough football for the first 15-20 minutes but when we didn't get a goal starting taking the easy option.
Coyle needs to get them to stay true to the way we've been playing since the start of September.
We were playing some really good passing football the first 20mins and I doubt if Clyde would have managed to hold us off for the 90mins if we'd stuck to doing that. They were having to foul us.
The players seemed to panic and resort to long balls far too early, possibly undertandably given the pressure Hamilton are putting on us to win every week.
Coyle has to get the players to stick to the passing game though because I don't believe theres a team in the division can live with use when we knock it about.
Noose76
29-10-2007, 08:08 AM
One of the most frustrating games Ive been to in a while, thank the lord almighty for their crap keeper. The ref needs to take a look at himself as he ruined the game.
Zimmerman
29-10-2007, 11:28 AM
In the end a point was a point gained from this game. It wouldnt be so bad had our early season form not let us down. The main problem here for me was coyle's lack of tactical awareness. It was obvious that clyde were too fast for us and mcluskey and wetherston should have been on earlier. Still, im sure we shall pick it up against dundee.
Real Madrid
29-10-2007, 02:00 PM
These posts labelling Clyde a "diddy team" etc are completely wide of the mark. I don't think we have beaten Clyde by more than a single goal ever since we were relegated from SPL in 2002 - am sure someone can confirm this. Indeed I would reckon the overall record must be pretty close to 50/50 over that time period..
With regard to Clyde there is no way they are a diddy team, in fact they are are punching well above their weight when you consider their finances and poor attandances
You know what you are going to get with Clyde. If its an away game a good programme, frezing cold (no matter when the game is played) and they will play agressive and time waste and if its at McDiarmid they will time waste even more and try every trick in the book to kill the game
I stand by what I said in that I hate their style and its teams like that that kill the game, hopefully they will either change style one day or go down and a team who tries to entertain will replace them
bleacher
29-10-2007, 04:58 PM
It was obvious that clyde were too fast for us and mcluskey and wetherston should have been on earlier.
I'm not sure that's correct, at least when it comes to McCluskey. He would have been kicked all over the park and that so called 'referee' would have missed most of it. It was a game where we really missed Martin Hardie.
Radford 72
29-10-2007, 05:07 PM
It was a game where we really missed Martin Hardie.
I'd agree with that to an extent, although you can be sure Hardie would've been sent off as these hardmen that dish it out are only too quick to go to ground at the slightest contact.
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