Stranraer vs Saints - Match Preview

[Hazel1884]

How would people be lining up on Saturday?

Sheridan will probably walk straight back into the side after suspension, at the expense of?

Depending if Owen plays 3-5-2 or 4-4-2 it may be at the expense of Anderson. Mensing moved to right back or centre half to accomodate Sheridan?

Would personally like us to the same as against Clyde, with the exception of Jancjyk in for Henry:

Cuthbert
Anderson James Rutkiewicz
Stevenson Sheerin Mensing Jancjyk Stanic
Scotland Coyle

Subs: Dobbie, Jackson, K Fotheringham, Henry, Paston.

Although, as much as Coyle kicked butts i would maybe play Jackson instead of him, his pace could terrorise Stranraer's defence! :D And well, does the OCC have THAT much pace left in his old age?! :wink: :P

Many of us making the trip? Good day out! :D Cannae wait!

[Tranmere Saintee]

Not a bad shout Hazel, especially if Jancjyk realises he has to turn in the type of performance I know he is capable of (have witnessed him playing well before anybody asks :***: ).

Would probably stick with Coyle for the first 50/60 mins and then let Jacko loose, but he must be given at least a full 30 mins against them.

[Hazel1884]

And the fact that i would drop Henry is not singling him out, just that he is obviously pretty lightweight, but this will be a physical game. Jancjyk would be better suited IMO!

Maybe 100 Saints fans travelling down?

GAME ON!

[chopper]

It's a smaller park at Stair Park and IIRC we went with Savo and Peaso up front with a diamond 4 behind them - Scotland heading the diamond, Sheerin and Henry (?) behind them and Sheridan in front of the defence.

Would be tempted to go with that formation as Stranraer is a place where a narrow team would do well IMO, especially in the wake of the shoeing we gave them down there (but still only getting a draw :? ).

Sheridan has to come back, I would imagine at Anderson's expense - especially if we go 4 at the back. If we go 3, I would be tempted to keep the defence as was and have a straight swap Sheridan for Mensing. Obviously that is if Sheridan has to come back in - we could just stick with the winning XI from last week and have Scrappy on the bench?

[chopper]

I'm making my second trip to Stair Park, woo hoo!

And I'm nissing my first league match of the season :cry:

Ah well, Soccer Saturday for me!!!

[chopper]

Footy-tastic weekend for me! Going to Old Trafford for Man Urinal vs Liverpool on Sunday! :D

Meaningless match, not quite on a par with Baggies-Mackems!!! :?

Anyway, I would go 4-4-2 with a diamond 4 in the middle as our normal width problems aren't an issue on Saturday. One change to the team being Sheridan in for Anderson and as who to play in the hole, it wouldn't surprise me if Coyle gave himself and Scotland carte blanche to roam around the front areas, both dropping off and spearheading the attack, with John Henry playing in behind those 2.

[Saintkev]

Although, as much as Coyle kicked butts i would maybe play Jackson instead of him, his pace could terrorise Stranraer's defence! :D And well, does the OCC have THAT much pace left in his old age?! :wink: :P

We've tried pace (as have others) against Stranraer, and got little change. I would play Coyle again, as he was a good link between attack and midfield and that may be the best way to unlock a tight defence.

[chopper]

We've tried pace (as have others) against Stranraer, and got little change. I would play Coyle again, as he was a good link between attack and midfield and that may be the best way to unlock a tight defence.

I disagree with that thought there Kev in the fact I would argue that pace has worked against Stranraer - especially down there - but the fact our strikers couldn't finish the pie supper in front of them meant we didn't win down there.

[templeofsaints]

I'd be tempted to go 4-4-2 or even 4-3-3 (Jason, Coyle and Jackson). The pitch is a narrow one and ISTR fairly heavy so fast pacy wingers are out of the question. We need more battlers in the middle so I'd possibly be tempted to drop Ryan and stick Mensing on the right wing in front of Anderson. Sheridan and Sheerin in the middle (plus Scrabble on the left wing if it's a 4-man midfield).

[Saint Paul]

After the performance for most of the game last week I wouldn't change much.

If Sheridan is to come back into the team then I would drop Anderson and have Mensing play at the right of the back 3 and put Sheridan as the holding midfielder. I also agree that Henry is too lightweight and would agree with dropping him to the bench and bring in Scrabble. So, I would line up :-

--------------------Cuthbert--------------------

-----------Mensing----Ruti----James----------

--------------------Sheridan-------------------

Stevo-----Scrabble------Sheerin------Stanic

--------------Scotland-----Coyle--------------


Subs - Paston, Ando, Fotheringham, Dobbie, Jackson

[Saintkev]

We've tried pace (as have others) against Stranraer, and got little change. I would play Coyle again, as he was a good link between attack and midfield and that may be the best way to unlock a tight defence.

I disagree with that thought there Kev in the fact I would argue that pace has worked against Stranraer - especially down there - but the fact our strikers couldn't finish the pie supper in front of them meant we didn't win down there.

Nah, they play deep, not much room behind the defence to exploit with pace and all our shots were past defenders before troubling the keeper. We need a clever player, able to find that wee gap or pull their defnce out of position.

Lot's of teams have pacy strikers, but nobody has pumped Stranny, so I would argue that it has not, in fact, worked!

[Broon]

I would argue we need a big striker who can mix it against them. It may be worthwhile considering ruti up there to help out. He has played as a striker for Aberdeen before.

[chopper]

I would argue we need a big striker who can mix it against them. It may be worthwhile considering ruti up there to help out. He has played as a striker for Aberdeen before.
Especially with Michael Moore out so not as much of an aerial threat will be posed at the back.

[templeofsaints]

I would argue we need a big striker who can mix it against them. It may be worthwhile considering ruti up there to help out. He has played as a striker for Aberdeen before.
Especially with Michael Moore out so not as much of an aerial threat will be posed at the back.
Ruti picked up a knock in training on Monday, as did Stevo (or maybe that was during the match). Not sure how likely they are to be available. I don't think now is the time to experiment though.

Stevo's was a hip knock but AFAIK it wasn't serious. Not sure about Ruti though.

[slf]

another 3 points ta.we are gonna terrorise em this time :)

[1884]

Says on the Stranraer website that 'kids under aged 12 get in for jack sh't when accompanied by an adult'.

Is this a new thing cos i definately paid for oor two when we were there last October? :shock:

(But fair play to them anyway. I'm all in favour of encouraging the next generation through the gates. 8))

[Hazel1884]

Says on the Stranraer website that 'kids under aged 12 get in for jack sh't when accompanied by an adult'.

Is this a new thing cos i definately paid for oor two when we were there last October? :shock:

(But fair play to them anyway. I'm all in favour of encouraging the next generation through the gates. 8))

Is it a Cowdenbeth style of Under12? If so, i count! GAME ON!

[Hazel1884]

Nothing much seems to be happening on the forum - who's all going down???

[imported_Jamie_Beatson]

I can't decide whether to go or not. I wouldn't normally choose to miss a game but I really can't be arsed getting up at 8am to catch the bus! Such a long long journey!

On the other hand I think we'll win... tough one

[Hazel1884]

I can't decide whether to go or not. I wouldn't normally choose to miss a game but I really can't be arsed getting up at 8am to catch the bus! Such a long long journey!

On the other hand I think we'll win... tough one

And you get to enjoy the banter of the bus, get pished in stranraer, bingo bongo and my quiz on the way back - hands on the light switches please!!!! :***:

[Saintkev]

I can't decide whether to go or not. I wouldn't normally choose to miss a game but I really can't be arsed getting up at 8am to catch the bus! Such a long long journey!

On the other hand I think we'll win... tough one

Beatson, the bus is just a big bevvy session, and I'm at a party the night before so will be feeling hellish (or still drunk) yet will make it... get your ass on it!

[Saintkev]

and quiz on the way back - hands on the light switches please!!!! :***:

John Wayne's an arsehole!

[Hazel1884]

Beatson, the bus is just a small journey before a big bevvy session, and I'm at a party the night before so will be feeling hellish (or still drunk) yet will make it... get your ass on it!

I'm working till midnight the night before so by the time i get up the road and get my hair nd that done i will be struggling to make it, but i'll be there! :wink:

[Hazel1884]

Possibly the last time i'll be on the forum before the match, depending what time i finish work tonight......

So MON THE SAINTS!!!!!

Looking forward to a good day out, and hopefully the lads can get us a result.

We love you saintees, oh yes we do.........

[dunblanemike]

stranraer are after Templeman of Morton if rumours are to be believed.
http://www.stranraerfc.org/news.htm

Is Moore out of the game tomorrow?

[rickardo]

moore is WAAASH he always has been ,weve nae problem the morn YA 3.0 SAINTS

[dave mc]

Brought up for updates!!

[Broggy Man]

What is the best live score site

[Broggy Man]

1-0 Saints Scotlnand

[malcolm]

1 0 saints - scotland

[Rodgers]

Some of the Saints fans got in for free....lucky bastards!!!

Some guy jumped over the fence and opened the game and let half of them in :***:

[Broggy Man]

C'mon the Hamilton

[garydavidson]

best site for updates i find is skysports.com then get the live score flash player up itseven got the team lines and subs etc etc! and a live league table which has us at 2nd as the scores stand :)

[garydavidson]

line up is

Cuthbert
Mensing
Stanic
Anderson
Rutkiewicz
James
Henry
Sheridan
Coyle
Scotland
Sheerin

Subs
Dobbie, Fotheringham, Stevenson, Janczyk, Paston

[chopper]

Half times:

Airdrie United 1 (Prunty) Clyde 1 (Brighton)
Brechin City 0 Dundee 1 (McDonald)
Hamilton Academicals 0 St. Mirren 0
Ross County 1 (McKinlay) Queen of the South 0
Stranraer 0 St. Johnstone 1 (Scotland)

[pezza70]

0-0 Hamilton and the midden

lets hope the scores in both games stays the same us and them

[Broggy Man]

0-0 Hamilton and the midden

lets hope the scores in both games stays the same us and them
Ah the sleepy one i thought u had gone to bed perry

[chopper]

Table as it stands at half time:

St. Mirren 51
St. Johnstone 41
Hamilton 40
Ross County 40
Clyde 37
Dundee 33
Airdrie 31
Stranraer 22
Queen of the South 10
Brechin 9

[pezza70]

I just woke up

I layed down for a few mins and bang out like a light

Ive got the world service on, they again missed the div 1 half time scores. but gave me the goal scores in the championship

assholes

[Steve Maskrey]

Surprised there's only one striker on the bench :?

[pezza70]

great avatar steve

now imagine two wingers who could run all day like him up and down the pitch for us

[Steve Maskrey]

great avatar steve

now imagine two wingers who could run all day like him up and down the pitch for us

.....and someone like Michael Johnson running through the middle :D

[pezza70]

Knowing our luck, he would pull a hamstring in the warm up :D

[pezza70]

halftime is over, back on topic now :D

[chopper]

Brechin 0 Dundee 2 (Dixon)
Ros County 2 (Rankin) Queen of the South 0

[pezza70]

This is torture watching the sky sports site with only a one goal lead :D

[Rodgers]

2-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :D :D
Simon Mensing
Pitch envation :***:

[pezza70]

dobbie for coyle 77th min

[stanley saint]

i thought dobbie was in the thames ?

[pezza70]

Yessssssssssss

midden - hamilton still 0-0

10 mins to go in both games

Mon the saintes

[saint in the city]

Ya beauty . A goal for Hamilton would be the icing on the cake :D :D :D :D :D

[Coltrane]

Right on. Can relax a bit now..

[pezza70]

i thought dobbie was in the thames ?


its cruel to be kind

[stanley saint]

henry off for jancyk

[stanley saint]

midden drew YYYYYEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS

clyde drew as well

[saintbear]

anyone know the crowd at the saints game?

[chopper]

Full times:

Airdire United 1 (Prunty) Clyde 1 (Brighton) (McKeown s/o)
Brechin City 0 Dundee 3 (McDonald, Dixon, Lynch(pen))
Hamilton Academicals 0 St. Mirren 0
Ross County 3 (McKinlay, Rankin, Burke) Queen of the South 1 (Thomson)
Stranraer 0 St. Johnstone 2 (Scotland, Mensing)

Table:

St. Mirren 51 (+16)
St. Johnstone 41 (+16)
Hamilton 40 (+9)
Ross County 40 (+9)
Clyde 37 (+3)
Dundee 33 (+4)
Airdrie 31 (+9)
Stranraer 22 (-7)
Queen of the Souh 10 (-28)
Brechin City 9 (-31)

[pezza70]

Full time scores

Airdrie 1 - Clyde 1

Brechin 0 - Dundee 3

Hamilton 0 - Midden 0 :D

Ross Co 3 - Q o S 1

Stranaer 0 - Saintees 2

Up to second spot, another big fortnight of matches for us ahead

'mon the saintees

[stanley saint]

wasn't the 5-0 i was wanting but 3 points ...... there is hope still...

[Chansey]

Great result.....lets hope we keep this run intact and the goals and clean sheets coming over the rest remainder of the season, if not this season, lets put ourself in a good posistion for next deason. Well done lads! :***:

[Finners]

Good result again, a win again against brechin will setup us nicely for mirren!!, Mon saints

[saint scotty]

YES second in the league, 10 points behind, St-mirren in 2 weeks

cooooommmmmeee on you saaaiiiints

[garydavidson]

only thing to dampen it was ross countys win they have a game in hand and are a point behind!

o nthe saints

[ally bon]

St Mirren v Ross County next week could be interesting.

[Ronaldo]

That's a very good result !!!
I think Stranraer had gone five games without defeat at home before today and that included playing Dundee, Airdrie and Hamilton. :D 8) .
Draws are lethal, let's hope St.Mirren have many more and we win at the same time.

[ally bon]

That's a very good result !!!
I think Stranraer had gone five games without defeat at home before today and that included playing Dundee, Airdrie and Hamilton. :D 8) .
Draws are lethal, let's hope St.Mirren have many more and we win at the same time.


Draws are lethal ? we should know that better than most, 5 draws from the last 10 league games.

[Ronaldo]

That's a very good result !!!
I think Stranraer had gone five games without defeat at home before today and that included playing Dundee, Airdrie and Hamilton. :D 8) .
Draws are lethal, let's hope St.Mirren have many more and we win at the same time.


Draws are lethal ? we should know that better than most, 5 draws from the last 10 league games.
Exactly Ally, maybe the second half of the season it'll be their turn. :)

[ally bon]

we're a good bet on the coupon though :***:

[templeofsaints]

Temple Reports up now - FWIW a much better performance than last week and we adapted well to the heavy pitch. Solid in defence and ok in midfield with Stumpy back though Henry was again looking lightweight. Thought Owen was too slow and off-form up front though.

Scotland and Mensing's goals were crackers but it was a good all-round team performance. :***: :***: :D

[Tranmere Saintee]

Temple Reports up now - FWIW a much better performance than last week and we adapted well to the heavy pitch. Solid in defence and ok in midfield with Stumpy back though Henry was again looking lightweight. Thought Owen was too slow and off-form up front though.

Scotland and Mensing's goals were crackers but it was a good all-round team performance. :***: :***: :D

Temple , did you really mean that opening gambit?

I didn't think we matched last weeks performance, partly due to the heavy pitch.

[dunblanemike]

did you see the official site report - 3 points from a long journey north - eh! when did they move stranraer up north??

[lethamsaintee]

did you see the official site report - 3 points from a long journey north - eh! when did they move stranraer up north??

read it again

[ally bon]

did you see the official site report - 3 points from a long journey north - eh! when did they move stranraer up north??

read it again


"ensuring that the long journey north was mde with three points having been gathered."


:oops:

[lethamsaintee]

chuffed with the points today and with st.moron drawing well ya never know

[Nick]

Not one bad performance for me. I thought Mensing was excellent, wasnt giving away the stupid fouls like usual, his passing was top notch, and took his goal really well!

Nothing to moan about for a change!

[Hazel1884]

Thought Mensing showed why the OC shouldn't even think about dropping him atm - he was good!

Sheridan settled back in well today, but for me not a man of the match performance!

Some neat play today at times, on a heavy pitch which has already been commented on.

Will say more later, too tired to type!

[templeofsaints]

Temple , did you really mean that opening gambit?

I didn't think we matched last weeks performance, partly due to the heavy pitch.
I agree, I thought we played better last week but today was all about getting the three points.

I thought the performance today overall was better - the pitch meant a different type of football on offer (less sexy passing and more grit) but we looked more comfortable over the 90 than we did at Broadwood. We were a lot more like a team (rather than the rollercoaster at times at Broadwood). Defence was lot better and even when Stranraer had the pressure in the 2nd half we looked fairly solid. The midfield seemed a lot more stable - the passing and tackling was a lot better and we were supporting the strikers more than at Broadwood.

[dunblanemike]

anyone know the crowd at the saints game?
638 according to the bbc.

[Real Madrid]

anyone know the crowd at the saints game?
638 according to the bbc.

Looked like at least 50 more than that to me :***:

[Shaggy Jenkins]

2 good goals

Not seen Mensing do that for us since the pre season at Inverurie, almos a carbon copy of his goal there. Our wide players need to get into more of thos positions

[HeronAddict]

What a fantastic pass as well from Sheridan for Mensing's goal. Conclusive proof that he can create as well as be the hardman, despite what certain other forum members may think :wink: :***:

[Steve Maskrey]

I thought both goals were outstanding, lovely build up to the first goal :D

Coyle for Brazil!! :***:

[McCarry One Nil]

2 good goals from what i saw on Scotsport.

the big talking point though is....Which Saints Fan threw the toilet roll after the 2nd goal (or was it an adding machine roll)???......Quality :***:

[stanley saint]

game looked scrappy , but a good win and OC played brilliant
:P

[Hazel1884]

2 good goals from what i saw on Scotsport.

the big talking point though is....Which Saints Fan threw the toilet roll after the 2nd goal (or was it an adding machine roll)???......Quality :***:

Twasa guy called Baldy who was the year above me at school - police had a word with him for it!!

All in all, how many fans made it on the pitch yesterday???

***!

I made it on walking across with the flags whilst the players were walking off, hehe!

[Watty]

Another tremedous strike from Scotland laid on superbly by the OC, as i've said before apart from one tap in all Scotland's goals have been top drawer.

Good also to see Mensing on the scoresheet, took his goal well latching on to the already praised excellent through ball from Shez. Mensing at last starting to look like the player i thought he was, think the game at Airdrie where he played centre mid was poss the turning point.

[1884]

2 good goals from what i saw on Scotsport.

the big talking point though is....Which Saints Fan threw the toilet roll after the 2nd goal (or was it an adding machine roll)???......Quality :***:

Twasa guy called Baldy who was the year above me at school - police had a word with him for it!!

All in all, how many fans made it on the pitch yesterday???

***!

I made it on walking across with the flags whilst the players were walking off, hehe!
The toilet roll was already on the pitch when Mensing scored.

The roll of crepe streamer was thrown just after Mensing scored by a sweet, lovable 9 year old member 8) of the Jeanfield 208 (who already thought the Polis were after him for using the ladies toilets! Nothing like drawing attention to yersell, eh? :***: :***: ).