Saints vs. Raith Rovers 15/01/08

[Scobby_SJFC]

Scottish cup time again, hopefully another trip to Hampden but not very likely!!
Not sure whats best the 3 in midfield, where we played some nice stuff against PT or go to a 4 with David Weatherston?

Hopefully Raith will fill up a bit of the north stand and get a decent atmosphere, was thinking th other day about the rain soaked game in 2003 at Starks and a 4-1 game anybody else remember this one??

[saint5588]

i would like to see the 3 in midfield again and play some good football. if we do play 4 with david weatherston im sure his pace will also cause some hassle for raiths defence. all i really want to see is a good performance and a few goals.

[Dennistoun Saint]

My favourite Rovers memory was playing them right at the start of a season...maybe 94/95? Fairly sure it was just after we'd gone down to the First Division. Anyone help me out with the score/date details? May have been 1-1?! My abiding memory is a big Saints support behind one end on a sunny day and pissing against what was basically a wall that constituted their "Toilets"!
Be a tough game for us on Saturday. Just hope we get the ball down in the midfield and play a bit - especially down the wings.

[Calloway 262]

Just to fill everyone with a bit of confidence, we have only scored 1 goal on Scottish Cup 3rd Round Saturday since 2000.

2000 Rangers H 0-2
2001 Dunfermline H 0-0
2002 Aberdeen H 0-2
2003 Airdrie U A 1-1
2004 Motherwell H 0-3
2005 ICT A 0-1
2006 Gretna H 0-1
2007 Ayr H 0-0

That record really is dire, and lets hope it improves. I hope McInnes goes with his strongest team possible because Raith Rovers are useful, as they showed in the Challenge Cup tie in August. I'd line up the same as last week.

[Scobby_SJFC]

Good stats Calloway, dire really ive been to most of them and only Baxters fluke goal away to Airdie is all i can remember

If 3rd round replays count we put 2 past Ayr on a cold wet night.

[Calloway 262]

Good stats Calloway, dire really ive been to most of them and only Baxters fluke goal away to Airdie is all i can remember

If 3rd round replays count we put 2 past Ayr on a cold wet night.

Spot on, Mark Baxter is the only Saints player to score in a third round 'first leg' game in the Scottish Cup in 8 years.

As for the three replays in that time, lost 3-2 at Dunfermline after being 2 up, needed pens to beat Airdrie and needed a late late Peaso goal to avoid pens at Somerset Park last year.

[Scobby_SJFC]

Good freekeck by JAson, and a good finsh from Peaso, Never been so cold in my life, also missed my train back to Glasgow due to the extra time.

Hopefully this year we can make it easier on ourselves, by getting an early goal and dominating thr game. Wonder how Marvin Andrews is playing these days??

[blueheaven]

My favourite Rovers memory was playing them right at the start of a season...maybe 94/95? Fairly sure it was just after we'd gone down to the First Division. Anyone help me out with the score/date details? May have been 1-1?! My abiding memory is a big Saints support behind one end on a sunny day and pissing against what was basically a wall that constituted their "Toilets"!
Be a tough game for us on Saturday. Just hope we get the ball down in the midfield and play a bit - especially down the wings.

I was at that game - it was the first game of the season after we were relegated. I'm pretty sure it was Callum Davidson's Saints debut. Peter Davenport also possibly played for us? I remember Colin Cameron scored for Raith, but not sure who scored for Saints - might have been Davie Irons??

[Dennistoun Saint]

I was at that game - it was the first game of the season after we were relegated. I'm pretty sure it was Callum Davidson's Saints debut. Peter Davenport also possibly played for us? I remember Colin Cameron scored for Raith, but not sure who scored for Saints - might have been Davie Irons??

Great, thanks Blueheaven! Davie Irons rings a bell. I had thought it might have been his debut but you're right - I think he was the scorer. Was certainly a better away day than Sten*****muir that season!

[TheBigCheese]

I was at that game - it was the first game of the season after we were relegated. I'm pretty sure it was Callum Davidson's Saints debut. Peter Davenport also possibly played for us? I remember Colin Cameron scored for Raith, but not sure who scored for Saints - might have been Davie Irons??

Twas indeed Davie Irons that scored and I think Peter Davenport played as a trialist. George O'Boyle and John O'Neil's debuts as well that day

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Just to fill everyone with a bit of confidence, we have only scored 1 goal on Scottish Cup 3rd Round Saturday since 2000.

2000 Rangers H 0-2
2001 Dunfermline H 0-0
2002 Aberdeen H 0-2
2003 Airdrie U A 1-1
2004 Motherwell H 0-3
2005 ICT A 0-1
2006 Gretna H 0-1
2007 Ayr H 0-0

That record really is dire, and lets hope it improves. I hope McInnes goes with his strongest team possible because Raith Rovers are useful, as they showed in the Challenge Cup tie in August. I'd line up the same as last week.

Just as well it's the 4th round on Saturday then eh!!!!

Hopefully a fast paced game full of goalmouth incident roared on by a good and vocal crowd. I would like them to start with the team as against Thistle but with Jacko on instead of Peaso . We looked so good when Jacko came on and played some great football.Same again please Del....:D


OH!... OH!.... OH!.... SAINTEES. SAINTEES

[MUZZ]

i've got a bad vibe about this game

[Nairn Saint]

i've got a bad vibe about this game

Settle down mate, we've got to beat The Engish Prime Ministers team.

[MUZZ]

Settle down mate, we've got to beat The Engish Prime Ministers team.

feel better now after speaking hazels pal from kirkcaldy. they have pretty bad injury worries seemingly including big marv

[fifefan]

Wonder how Marvin Andrews is playing these days??

Marvin Andrews has been injured for the past few games. Don't know if he will be fit for Saturday.

They had a problem against Ross County where Mark Campbell got injured (I think it was in the warm up) and another defender got injured early on in their game and had to come off. They had Andy Todd and Ian Davidson (normally a midfielder) in defence and I am told that the rest of the team were not sure what they were doing with the new shape. I have also been told that Goodwillie (sp?) who seems to be scoring most of their goals has not been given permission to play as Dundee don't want him cup-tied.

[ancientsaint]

feel better now after speaking hazels pal from kirkcaldy. they have pretty bad injury worries seemingly including big marv


We have always struggled against so called weak teams- Raith will be fired up for it-no matter what team they put out....We have to give them respect and not underestimate them.

[thewhorule2002]

If we play the way we have the last few games (even the dundee one) then we should win this but saints always struggle against teams they should beat!

I think a 4-3-3 may well work well against Raith (with jacko, savo and mcbreen up front) but I dont see it working in the long term, although id love to be proved wrong

[Dave H]

They have been stripped to the bare bones. talk is they only have a fit team of 13 players.

quote of the Raith forum
'With the defos like Pelosi and Silvestro out injured,add Lumsden, Campbell, Goodwillie and Andrews missing i reckon well get rodgered.'

my mate at works says a few of these guys are regulars and also defenders

[ancientsaint]

They have been stripped to the bare bones. talk is they only have a fit team of 13 players.

quote of the Raith forum
'With the defos like Pelosi and Silvestro out injured,add Lumsden, Campbell, Goodwillie and Andrews missing i reckon well get rodgered.'

my mate at works says a few of these guys are regulars and also defenders


Seems like they are giving us false hope-but if we play to our potential then it wont matter one way or another.

[Ronaldo]

I've always wondered after that Darts commentator said "They'll be dancing in the streets of Raith tonight" after Jocky won the World Championship (and after 16 pints) why Kirkcaldy's team are called Raith Rovers. Is it similar to our own origins?

[blueheaven]

I've always wondered after that Darts commentator said "They'll be dancing in the streets of Raith tonight" after Jocky won the World Championship (and after 16 pints) why Kirkcaldy's team are called Raith Rovers. Is it similar to our own origins?

I'm pretty sure Raith is the name of a district in Kirkcaldy - if so, then it technically would actually be possible to dance on its streets!

[Ronaldo]

I'm pretty sure Raith is the name of a district in Kirkcaldy - if so, then it technically would actually be possible to dance on its streets!
:)
That eplains the Raith Ballroom.
That means Perth could have a team called Letham Rovers if Saints disappear.

[Kevin]

I'm pretty sure Raith is the name of a district in Kirkcaldy - if so, then it technically would actually be possible to dance on its streets!

Not sure it's got streets as such BH but Raith is a huge estate just outside Kirkcaldy which was once owned by the Ferguson family so maybe they helped to start the team, strange one though and one that has held my interest for many years.....

[blueheaven]

Not sure it's got streets as such BH but Raith is a huge estate just outside Kirkcaldy which was once owned by the Ferguson family so maybe they helped to start the team, strange one though and one that has held my interest for many years.....

An estate without any streets?? What will those madcap Fifers dream up next??:p

I'm pretty sure there's also a Raith park... the plot thickens.

[ancientsaint]

An estate without any streets?? What will those madcap Fifers dream up next??:p

I'm pretty sure there's also a Raith park... the plot thickens.


There is no Raith area in Kirkcaldy.......Raith Rovers started out of a team called "Raith Rovers" who were a different team. The "old" Raith Rovers merged with Cowdenbeath fc....Then there was a break away group who set up the current Raith Rovers........The "old" Raith was seemingly named after the guy who started "old" Raith.

If that makes sense !!!

[ancientsaint]

RAITH is actually a gaelic version of the word FORT.

[Ronaldo]

Interesting stuff. Maybe Gordon Brown should write a book when he retires called "Bristling With Success" since -

Raith Rovers have actually won a cup! :shock:

(That was a great game to watch with Raith beating Celtic in the final of the League Cup t Ibrox and Charlie Nicholas heard to say "This is totally unbelievable")

[Tranmere Saintee]

RAITH is actually a gaelic version of the word FORT.

....and is a place west of Kirkcaldy where the Battle of Raith was fought in 596.

Although it lends it name to many entities in the region, Raith is not itself a settlement.

[ancientsaint]

Interesting stuff. Maybe Gordon Brown should write a book when he retires called "Bristling With Success" since -

Raith Rovers have actually won a cup! :shock:

(That was a great game to watch with Raith beating Celtic in the final of the League Cup t Ibrox and Charlie Nicholas heard to say "This is totally unbelievable")



WHAT.......Do you actually mean Charlie Nicholas got a complete sentence out !! WOW

[Ronaldo]

WHAT.......Do you actually mean Charlie Nicholas got a complete sentence out !! WOW
Yeah well I got it translated for this forum.

[Jimmy Wallace]

....and is a place west of Kirkcaldy where the Battle of Raith was fought in 596.

Although it lends it name to many entities in the region, Raith is not itself a settlement.

who's been looking at Wikipedia then? How about crediting your sources Tranmere?:wink:

[Tranmere Saintee]

who's been looking at Wikipedia then? How about crediting your sources Tranmere?:wink:

Never reveal your sources (even when you get found out):roll: :***:

[StDuncM]

http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/people/famousfirst369.html

[stu]

....and is a place west of Kirkcaldy where the Battle of Raith was fought in 596.

Although it lends it name to many entities in the region, Raith is not itself a settlement.

In the Wikipedia entry for Kirkcaldy, Raith is listed under "Areas of Kirkcaldy". My brain hurts.

[Ronaldo]

http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/people/famousfirst369.html
It's all becoming clearer. Thanks Dunc.

[Ronaldo]

Great players for Raith -
Jim Baxter

Great managers -
Jimmy Nicholl

[McCarry One Nil]

Mair nonsense trivia really but.... sure we went about 28 years unbeaten at Starks park from 1971 onward - our GREAT team of 1971 lost a Scottish Cup 3rd Round Tie there 4-3 (i remember being a wee laddie and just coodnae believe we'd lost to a team a Division below us !) but we didn't lose to them again till I think a Boxing Day game in the late 80's (??)

The thing is during those years we always struggled to beat them in Perth !! - including a 3-1 League Cup Quarter Final defeat after a 1-1 Draw at Starks.

Glad I'm no superstitious..........

[Ronaldo]

The thing is during those years we always struggled to beat them in Perth !! - including a 3-1 League Cup Quarter Final defeat after a 1-1 Draw at Starks.

Glad I'm no superstitious..........
That 3-1 defeat was by a really good Raith team. I remember going down to Raithon my own in the car (others were working or on holiday) one wednesday night in August in the early 80's and we beat them 4-0 and I'm sure that was the League Cup but it might have been the League.

[fifefan]

Raith Estate is an area within Kirkcaldy encompassing the Beveridge park area.

[gingermunkie]

im really excited about this game. i look forward to going

[Watty]

Games in doubt. Decision around lunch time.

[stanley saint]

in doubt because of the weather ,

[Watty]

in doubt because of the weather ,

Take it so, extremely hard frost this morning, not sure the undersoil has coped.

[saint5588]

is anyone expecting the pitch inspection to pass?? as in dunfermline and its still freezing here dont know what its like in perth

[MUZZ]

i'd imagine the game to be on.

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

is anyone expecting the pitch inspection to pass?? as in dunfermline and its still freezing here dont know what its like in perth

Hopefully they still have the heating on which should help.What I want to know is what happened to the heated (?) blanket thingymajig.Do we still even have it and if so was it used as well. The weather forecast I watched last night said it was going to get very, very cold last night , but Saints seem to have not expected it to be so cold.......?????????

Will be sooooooooo disappointed if the games off:cry:

[templeofsaints]

livi v cowdenbeath and clyde v arabs both off now.

[templeofsaints]

Hopefully they still have the heating on which should help.What I want to know is what happened to the heated (?) blanket thingymajig.Do we still even have it and if so was it used as well. The weather forecast I watched last night said it was going to get very, very cold last night , but Saints seem to have not expected it to be so cold.......?????????

Will be sooooooooo disappointed if the games off:cry:

The blanket was made redundant when we got undersoil heating in. Unfortunately ti looks like the temp was too cold even for the heating which is why there's an inspection.

ISTR the undersoil heating was required for the SPL while the balloon was apparently more effective.

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

As is Cove v Ross county and Huntly v Dundee

[Tranmere Saintee]

Hopefully they still have the heating on which should help.What I want to know is what happened to the heated (?) blanket thingymajig.Do we still even have it and if so was it used as well. The weather forecast I watched last night said it was going to get very, very cold last night , but Saints seem to have not expected it to be so cold.......?????????

Will be sooooooooo disappointed if the games off:cry:

I seem to remember something about it being sold to a fabulous club from down south, based on the Wirral on the correct side of the Mersey?

[MUZZ]

As is Cove v Ross county and Huntly v Dundee

my coag mates away up there, bed and breakfast for the night. what a waste now ***

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

I seem to remember something about it being sold to a fabulous club from down south, based on the Wirral on the correct side of the Mersey?

Port Sunlight Utd or Rock Ferry Rovers??????

[SaintSam1884]

Match postponed.

[templeofsaints]

Game's off

[Tranmere Saintee]

Port Sunlight Utd or Rock Ferry Rovers??????

No - the top club Cammell Laird!

[Dunfermline Saint]

Match off.

[Perth-Saint]

match off

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Match off.


bollocks

[StDuncM]

Off til Tuesday!

http://www.stjohnstonefc.co.uk/default.asp

[ancientsaint]

Off til Tuesday!

http://www.stjohnstonefc.co.uk/default.asp


Might get it for a tenner now that its a midweek game !!!!!!!

[MUZZ]

gonna be a boring day now

[StDuncM]

Might get it for a tenner now that its a midweek game !!!!!!!

Might not because of the cost of the undersoil heating, which is not cheap, and the lost revenue from a higher attendance.

Is the Undersoil heating thermostatically controlled or just set at 'on'?

[DBay Saint]

It is thermostatically controlled and looks like they didn't set it high enough for the frost that we had.

[Park27]

A little embarrassing don't you think? We really shouldn't have a game called off because of the frost.

[Scobby_SJFC]

Dont have a clue what am going to do all day now, I was just about to leave!
That puts me in a bad place for the replay, do I go knowing I have an exam on the Wednesday?

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

It is thermostatically controlled and looks like they didn't set it high enough for the frost that we had.

Way to go Saints.Every other team who has undersoil heating have playable pitches(I don't think Livi have it , unless you know different) and we don't. It,s a beautiful winters day and we would have had a decent crowd but have shot ourselves in the foot again...What is going on up there.

If it's not frozen pitches it,s frozen car parks or poor lighting.Come on Saints we're going to become a laughing stock if stuff like this keeps happening...

Sort it out!!!!!!!!!!:evil:

[mainstand]

Way to go Saints.Every other team who has undersoil heating have playable pitches(I don't think Livi have it , unless you know different) and we don't. It,s a beautiful winters day and we would have had a decent crowd but have shot ourselves in the foot again...What is going on up there.

If it's not frozen pitches it,s frozen car parks or poor lighting.Come on Saints we're going to become a laughing stock if stuff like this keeps happening...

Sort it out!!!!!!!!!!:evil:

Yawn Yawn Yawn

Any time something happens the same post gets rolled out "sort it out we srae going to be a laughing stock etc"

did you not think that with us having a new pitch that they might not be able to turn it up full. Just a suggestion.

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Yawn Yawn Yawn

Any time something happens the same post gets rolled out "sort it out we srae going to be a laughing stock etc"

did you not think that with us having a new pitch that they might not be able to turn it up full. Just a suggestion.

Mibbies aye, Mibbies no.

Your defence of the club is admirable Mainstand. I salute you:)

[Kevin]

Sorry Ghost but Mainstand is right, they cannot turn on the undersoil heating due to the new pitch as it would cook the new grass roots

[williamwonka]

Yawn Yawn Yawn

Any time something happens the same post gets rolled out "sort it out we srae going to be a laughing stock etc"

did you not think that with us having a new pitch that they might not be able to turn it up full. Just a suggestion.

Spot on mainstand, our undersoil heating has a 'Low Torrance' contraction mechanism and if turned up too high, the pitch will turn to a muddy sludge. These systems are 90% successful but even St James park suffer the same problems. Don't think the club are to blame. Blame that bloody Jack Frost!!:p

[Scobby_SJFC]

Could a cover over the pitch not have helped things??

[Kevin]

Could a cover over the pitch not have helped things??

Not with last noight's frost, the ground was already wet from the soaking earlier in the week and two night's of very hard and deep frost would have still frozen the ground

[StDuncM]

Not with last noight's frost, the ground was already wet from the soaking earlier in the week and two night's of very hard and deep frost would have still frozen the ground

Well then, in future we should get a roof to stop the rain coming in.:***:

[St Mikey]

*** - game cancelled due to frost at a team who have undersoil heating!

We'll thought out, I'd be looking for a refund on the heating!?!?! :D

[ancientsaint]

*** - game cancelled due to frost at a team who have undersoil heating!

We'll thought out, I'd be looking for a refund on the heating!?!?! :D

Think Kevin hit it on the nail regarding the new turf.


Look at Partick Thistle -they have undersoil heating and they switched it on but still couldnt thaw the ground out...and it was much colder in Perth.

[7-2]

I'm pleasantly amazed that the game is now on tuesday, especially as the postponement has come out of the blue, given that the police insist on about 10 days notice to organise themselves for a replay. Wonder how they have managed to get their act together on this occasion?

[Tranmere Saintee]

Sorry Ghost but Mainstand is right, they cannot turn on the undersoil heating due to the new pitch as it would cook the new grass roots

So you are saying that the club are liars when they said the heating was switched on :confused:

[SJC]

The Undersoil heating was used recently against Livi.

How cold was it in Perth last night?

[Chuck Norris]

The Undersoil heating was used recently against Livi.
Strangely enough, the groundsman said it was turned off before that game.

[ancientsaint]

The Undersoil heating was used recently against Livi.

How cold was it in Perth last night?


Was minus 7 in burrelton !

[SJC]

The undersoil heating must have been on at some point v Livi, the playing surface was frost free but the edges of the pitch were white with frost.

[Chuck Norris]

The undersoil heating must have been on at some point v Livi, the playing surface was frost free but the edges of the pitch were white with frost.
I can only tell you what the groundsman said - and he was adamant the pitch had only been protected by covers. They don't cover the absolute perimeter of the grass so there might still have been frost by the end.

[ancientsaint]

I can only tell you what the groundsman said - and he was adamant the pitch had only been protected by covers. They don't cover the absolute perimeter of the grass so there might still have been frost by the end.


Was it not snow that lay on the ground before livvy game and not hard frost ?

[Kevin]

Was minus 7 in burrelton !

and in Westhill too

[Kevin]

So you are saying that the club are liars when they said the heating was switched on :confused:

No, I am just saying what I was told by the groundsman :|

[SaintSam1884]

Livingston and Partick Thistle, two teams with USH both had their games called off. One because they didn't switch their USH on at all, and the other because it wasn't switched on until this morning.

Some perspective here. It's only a game of football, which will be replayed on Tuesday. Saints lost a lot more from this postponement than any one of you moaners.

[garydavidson]

i was not planing on going to this but i feel its some what of a disgrace just out of interest when was the last time a home game was called off for reasons to do with the pitch?

[wee john]

Livingston and Partick Thistle, two teams with USH both had their games called off. One because they didn't switch their USH on at all, and the other because it wasn't switched on until this morning.

Some perspective here. It's only a game of football, which will be replayed on Tuesday. Saints lost a lot more from this postponement than any one of you moaners.

Sam you are havin a laugh.
Saints have fecked up again whether it be covers or not having the ush on. someone at mcd made a decision which was against all weather forecasts, they fecked up no arguements. The ush should have been on from thursday but someone decided not to switch it on then.
As for you saying Saints had more to lose than us moaners, you tell that to the Raith fans who came thru to Perth or the Saints fans who made the journey from all over Scotland, I think in relative terms they lost alot more than Saints.

[wee john]

"it's only a game of football",
it might only be a game of football but when you have organised your day/weekend around it and wasted tens of pounds in the process then it is more than just a game of football it can be your whole budget because you support your team and that "game of football"
Saints have feckedup, plain and simple.

[George Munro]

Disappointed that game was off yesterday.
As Raith fans living in Edinburgh we'd bought our tickets and started our journeys before we heard that the game was off.

I have no problem with the reasons given for the under-performing USH - ie the possibility that full blast would have destroyed your turf.

However, given the fact that the USH wasn't going to be used to full capacity and given the fact that the low temperatures were known in advance, why wait till high noon to have a pitch inspection?

Surely a local ref could have been brought in to have a 9am inspection? At this time of year the sun is never going to get above the stands to do the work that the half-capacity USH coudn't do.

People seem to think that we're living in the 1950s where all Raith fans live in Kirkcaldy and all Saints fans live in Perth. Society is different - many fans are dispersed around the country and whilst a noon inspection will have stopped the bulk of a Kirkcaldy-based support travelling it didn't help some others.

Yesterday might have seen about 600 travelling fans. Tuesday night will probably see about 300.

PS Arriving in Perth yesterday we were struck by one thing - that's a pretty big station for 3 trains a day.

[monkfish]

Dunno why as a Raith fan you're on the moan, I would of thought the delay might of helped you with some of your injury problems?

[ancientsaint]

Disappointed that game was off yesterday.
As Raith fans living in Edinburgh we'd bought our tickets and started our journeys before we heard that the game was off.

I have no problem with the reasons given for the under-performing USH - ie the possibility that full blast would have destroyed your turf.

However, given the fact that the USH wasn't going to be used to full capacity and given the fact that the low temperatures were known in advance, why wait till high noon to have a pitch inspection?

Surely a local ref could have been brought in to have a 9am inspection? At this time of year the sun is never going to get above the stands to do the work that the half-capacity USH coudn't do.

People seem to think that we're living in the 1950s where all Raith fans live in Kirkcaldy and all Saints fans live in Perth. Society is different - many fans are dispersed around the country and whilst a noon inspection will have stopped the bulk of a Kirkcaldy-based support travelling it didn't help some others.

Yesterday might have seen about 600 travelling fans. Tuesday night will probably see about 300.

PS Arriving in Perth yesterday we were struck by one thing - that's a pretty big station for 3 trains a day.


Kirkcaldy etc aint that far away from Perth so why are 300 out of 600 fans not gonna go to the tuesday night game....its not as if the shops are open at that time of night as they are on a saturday.

Or do all Raith fans have to return home before sunrise !!:rolleyes:

[THE REBEL SAINT]

Was minus 7 in burrelton !

still a cold place,stayed in woodside for 21 years:p:p

[slf]

Saints have feckedup, plain and simple.


Sorry it wasnt Saints it was me .I was gutted I couldnt get off work ,to watch us play the mighty rovers. So I turned the heating doon.Result i can now make the game on tuesday ya boy sir .Sorry neebs

[ancientsaint]

Sorry it wasnt Saints it was me .I was gutted I couldnt get off work ,to watch us play the mighty rovers. So I turned the heating doon.Result i can now make the game on tuesday ya boy sir .Sorry neebs


Whats the weather forecast for Tuesday ?

[George Munro]

I think 300 of the 600 won't travel as the next round opponents are not attractive. Potential banana skin at Cove; we'd probably get beat by Ross Co.

Given our injury problems I think we'd be quite content not to progress and let Ross Co get involved in more games.

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Whats the weather forecast for Tuesday ?

It going to be mild and wet, so no chance of any problems. ( unless the lights go out again):***:

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

I think 300 of the 600 won't travel as the next round opponents are not attractive. Potential banana skin at Cove; we'd probably get beat by Ross Co.

Given our injury problems I think we'd be quite content not to progress and let Ross Co get involved in more games.

Where's your ambition for god sake:oops:

If you feel that way why not stay in linoland( or where ever) and we'll just take a walk over.
As for Ross county, my fife friend they'll only be involved in one more game than your guys thats if they can beat the mighty Cove

[Saintkev]

I seem to remember something about it being sold to a fabulous club from down south, based on the Wirral on the correct side of the Mersey?

Tranmere hired it for one game, and even then it still didn't work, you should know as we shared driving duties only for the game to be cancelled!!:roll:

[Saintkev]

"it's only a game of football",
it might only be a game of football but when you have organised your day/weekend around it and wasted tens of pounds in the process then it is more than just a game of football it can be your whole budget because you support your team and that "game of football"
Saints have feckedup, plain and simple.

Agree wholeheartedly... and I believe the decision not to use the under soil heating is more down to cost than any effects it may have on the pitch. I know this from an experienced groundsman.

[Saintkev]

I think 300 of the 600 won't travel as the next round opponents are not attractive. Potential banana skin at Cove; we'd probably get beat by Ross Co.

I think a big chunk wont travel, because they have wee kids, or midweek doesn't suit, or in the case of two buses, they have already paid to get the bus as far as Kinross before the game got called off, expensive stuff.

[MUZZ]

just a shambles

[George Munro]

TgoJM, there is ambition at the club, but it's being channeled into the promotion drive which is a much higher priority.

With our small squad, any extra games = possibility of extra injuries.

Nope, I'd rather we concentrate our ambitions on promotion. Not defeatism, simply realistic in the light of a tight budget and a small squad.

It's a pity we didn't have our full squad available as I think it could have been a worthwhile game on Saturday.

[MUZZ]

what stands will be open tomorrow?

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Weather forecast is looking a bit dodgy for Tuesday nights game........Snow from around 3 pm to 7 pm ish. Whats the betting it's off again????:(

[Scobby_SJFC]

I cant be arsed going tomorrow!
A 2 hour round trip on a wet tuesday night by myself.

No thanks, save money for saturday!!

[Saintkev]

I was hearing of a table-load who were due in hospitality on Saturday and asked to come back on Tuesday night, but as he said what is the attraction in getting bevvied up on a Tuesday night? This cancellation has cost a lot of people a lot of money, Saints included.

[Perth-Saint]

looking forward to it a bit more than I was on saturday for some reason. My first game since boxing day:)

[slf]

looking forward to the game today

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Weather forecast is looking a bit dodgy for Tuesday nights game........Snow from around 3 pm to 7 pm ish. Whats the betting it's off again????:(


Breaking News.................
Weather forecast bollocks.There now saying it,s going to be a reasonable evening...Make your mind up. :?

Michael fish says " What Hurricaine":oops:

Come on you Saints:D

[Noose76]

I finish work in 5 minutes then home for a quick change and a fish supper, before disembarking from Dundee on the choo choo. WE'RE GOING TO WIN THE CUP! MON THE BLOOOOOOOOOOSSSS! proper buzzing!:D

[mainstand]

I think a big chunk wont travel, because they have wee kids, or midweek doesn't suit, or in the case of two buses, they have already paid to get the bus as far as Kinross before the game got called off, expensive stuff.

What time was teh game called off? I called at 10 to 12 and got told then that it was off, the buses must have left Kirkcaldy helluva early.

[SaintSam1884]

I finish work in 5 minutes then home for a quick change and a fish supper, before disembarking from Dundee on the choo choo. WE'RE GOING TO WIN THE CUP! MON THE BLOOOOOOOOOOSSSS! proper buzzing!:D

When did you move to Dundee!

[George Munro]

Mainstand, these were probably non-official buses, hired privately by groups who probably like to arrive at the venues early and "enjoy the local hospitality".

Word on the streets is that big Marv might be available, but the concensus seems to be that we might not risk him and would prefer to have him gauranteed for Saturday's league game. If he does play, then Davidson should revert to midfield and overall our chances of "a result" will improve from "nil" to "slim".

[7-2]

If he does play, then Davidson should revert to midfield and overall our chances of "a result" will improve from "nil" to "slim".
I think they are much greater than that! Midweek cup ties featuring so called lesser sides appear to throw up more 0-1 scorelines than there should be!

[Scobby_SJFC]

C'mon Saints!!!

[Scobby_SJFC]

Raith with all the pressure it sounds

[Saintly Child]

1 - 0 Saints

[Ray Blair]

Go Andy Jackson

[garydavidson]

I hate listening to games on the radio never know quite what is happening.

[Scobby_SJFC]

I hate listening to games on the radio never know quite what is happening.

Know what you mean, everything is fine, next second the ball is in the 6 yard box

[Canuck Saintee]

Scumdee 1 up.

[Scobby_SJFC]

2-0 Saints Milne

[Tractor Boy]

Get in there! Wish I was there as the radio is a nightmare.

[StDuncM]

Penalty kick! 3-0 Sheerin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Scobby_SJFC]

would be nice to get 4 or 5 now

[Ray Blair]

The banana skin aint too slippy thank goodness

[fifefan]

Who is Craig Wedderburn????

BBC reckon we put him on as a sub - do they mean David Weatherston?

[saint_markperth]

craig wetherburn on for peaso, ***

[fifefan]

They have now realised its David Weatherston

[Scobby_SJFC]

3-1 now

[Tarvie]

Nice way to spend an afternoon at work watching the scores come through. Cmon the Saints

[Tarvie]

1-1 Dundee Cmon the Huntly

[Scobby_SJFC]

Huntly 1-1 Dundee lovely stuff

[Scobby_SJFC]

Buggar 2-1 Dundee

[Canuck Saintee]

Hey Tarvie, are you watching the BBC page refreshing every 2 minutes? Have to keep switching screens when the boss walks past.....

[Tarvie]

Can smell the soap dodgers over here.......no wait thats just an Arab who works next to me.

Cmon Huntly

[Tarvie]

Hey Tarvie, are you watching the BBC page refreshing every 2 minutes? Have to keep switching screens when the boss walks past.....

Nah, just leave it on, the lead hand doesnt mind.

[Ray Blair]

not a lot of work going on in Calgarry!

[StDuncM]

3-1 finished!!!! bring on the mighty Ross or Cove!

[Tarvie]

not a lot of work going on in Calgarry!

***, well it is mid afternoon.

Canuck, where abouts are you over here?

[Nairn Saint]

Banana skin? What banana skin?

[Canuck Saintee]

I'm in the north east.

[lampshade]

well done the saints,sounds like mooner had a good game again

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Was a good game and Saints after a shaky first 10 minutes never looked in any real trouble. Good performances all round with the strikers looking good.Only down side was we should have scored 5 or 6 and were guilty of missing a few easy chances( mooner biggest culprit but he played great otherwise) and both centre halfs taken off injured.
Raith looked okay and really should have been 1 up. They missed a double chance before we scored that they will feel might have given them hope but hey , thats the way it goes.
We looked a bit dodgy for the last 10 minutes but I think we just took our foot off the gas a bit.Job done........Well done Saints

[Tarvie]

I'm in the north east.

I'm working next to the airport but live SE, take it you wont be cheering on the flames tonight

[Canuck Saintee]

Not at $100 a ticket! I only go to the Flames when I get free tickets. And Saints fans think they pay over the odds!

[MUZZ]

hazels lover got kicked out at half time

[Morientes]

Was a good game and Saints after a shaky first 10 minutes never looked in any real trouble. Good performances all round with the strikers looking good.Only down side was we should have scored 5 or 6 and were guilty of missing a few easy chances( mooner biggest culprit but he played great otherwise) and both centre halfs taken off injured.
Raith looked okay and really should have been 1 up. They missed a double chance before we scored that they will feel might have given them hope but hey , thats the way it goes.
We looked a bit dodgy for the last 10 minutes but I think we just took our foot off the gas a bit.Job done........Well done Saints

Pretty much sums it up for me.

Hopefully nothing serious with the Centre halves.

Ruti was down getting treated for cramp prior to going off so maybe he's just lacking a bit of fitness and McCaffrey's didn't look too serious. Defence weren't wasting the ball tonight, even McManus took a touch to get the ball on the deck and passed it out!!

Thought Jackson looked good tonight, took his goal really well and Savo was his usual good self with Peaso drifting in and out and having some great touches.

Moon had a great game, composed on the ball and done the simple thing really well. Made some great forward runs too and on another night would have scored a couple.

We knocked the ball about well so hopefully this will keep the momentum going for the upcoming league match.

Pity Dundee didn't draw. Would have been good for us if they had to play an extra game.

On the other hand, I had £20 on St Johnstone, Dundee and Livingston all to win so it worked out quite nicely!!

[Cagey]

Should have strolled it after going 2 up but we missed a lot of easy chances & when they made it 3-1 we looked a wee bit jittery, as we were in the first 10 mins.

McCaffrey played well until he went off & Ruti setteled into a good game after the first 10 mins. I just wish he would cut out these 80 yard balls that go nowhere.

Main had little to do but still managed to make his defence nervous with his constant bawling even when there are 23 men in the other half. His kickng is still poor . If he wasn`t kicking it down big Merv`s throught he was kicking it out of the park.

[templeofsaints]

Workmanlike was the best way to describe it. There were some good individual performances but we struggled to get going as a team I thought (and again too many high long balls). Midfield seemed disjointed at times. Sheerin looked off-form but apparently was suffering from a cold. Mooner should have done better with the goals but he got into scoring chances and had a good game otherwise while Craig came onto a better game and Savo and Jacko both played well.

Raith seemed to suffer from losing the early goal and weren't able to push forward as much in the first half. Andrews looked good until Jacko started running at him but I was impressed by Templeton the no 11.

Overall good win though - gets a banana skin out of the way early

[Ronaldo]

hazels lover got kicked out at half time
They'll be crying in the streets of Raith tonight!

In short we were the better team. Jackson and Mooner looking great potentials and we acquired them from SJFC Youth team. Good balance to the team and I'm glad McInnes is continuing with the 4-3-3, it's the way forward and back (into the championship race).

Jim Spence looked as pleased as anybody when Huntly equalised. :)

[wee john]

Saints played well against a poor Raith team and despite us carrying a few players.
Sheerin, Craig and Peaso were all poor IMHO yet we still won comfortably, with Jacko and Mooner the standouts for me. Irvine was his usual steady self and must be the buy of the season.

[Scott Mc]

I am glad we won and very glad that they were crap.
Still an awful lot of work to be done starting with some much sterner opposition, away this Saturday in the League.
Highlights were Mooner, Craig, McCaffrey (For his short spell), McManus, Jacko and Savo. Ruti was dreadful but fortunately (credit where credit is due), Main made a couple of good reflex saves which kept them out in the early stages. Sheerin was a pretty mixed bag again. And why oh why do we keep bringing on our pacy, top scorer from the 3rd division last season and then completely ignore him? Freshest pair of legs on the park and he is like a ghost. Seen him make a couple of blistering runs into space, simple pass and we've scored but no, its punted into the stand from 30 yards out. He starts out on the right, is ignored completely as all the tired players play it down the left. He moves to a central / leftish position and the ball is punted up and down the right! He does exist doesnt he? I am not imagining Davie Watherston , am I?

[MUZZ]

too easy.

whoever we play next will be a bevvy mission :)

[Jamie_Beatson]

I was sitting right behind Kevin James. He was absolutely delighted when Huntly equalised. His reaction was quality!

[mainstand]

Saints played well against a poor Raith team and despite us carrying a few players.
Sheerin, Craig and Peaso were all poor IMHO yet we still won comfortably, with Jacko and Mooner the standouts for me. Irvine was his usual steady self and must be the buy of the season.


Alan preston was raving about how well Peaso had played.

[Steve Maskrey]

I was sitting right behind Kevin James. He was absolutely delighted when Huntly equalised. His reaction was quality!

I'm surprised you managed to see the game sitting behind James! Good job he doesn't have an afro :wink:

[Broon]

And why oh why do we keep bringing on our pacy, top scorer from the 3rd division last season and then completely ignore him? Freshest pair of legs on the park and he is like a ghost. Seen him make a couple of blistering runs into space, simple pass and we've scored but no, its punted into the stand from 30 yards out. He starts out on the right, is ignored completely as all the tired players play it down the left. He moves to a central / leftish position and the ball is punted up and down the right! He does exist doesnt he? I am not imagining Davie Watherston , am I?

He even tried to change his name to Craig Weatherburn in the hope that folk wouldn't know it was him and pass to him :p

[Tranmere Saintee]

He even tried to change his name to Craig Weatherburn in the hope that folk wouldn't know it was him and pass to him :p

My missus turned round and said to me last night - 'Every time he gets on the park, you keep telling me how good this guy is, but how can you tell when they wont give him the bloody ball' :mad:

[Noose76]

Proffesional performace and in all honesty we could of scored 6 or 7 with a bit of clinical finishing. Raith are no mugs, but they seemed very average compared to us yesterday evening.

[ancientsaint]

Proffesional performace and in all honesty we could of scored 6 or 7 with a bit of clinical finishing. Raith are no mugs, but they seemed very average compared to us yesterday evening.



Took advantage of the nice "discount" and moved (temporarily) across to the West stand just to see how the other half live with their plush seats - told to move as they were reserved for the "corporate businees folk" wow dont these "rock steady" stewards talk posh :mrgreen:

Anyway i thought our performance was more like a training session-since so many players didnt seem interested-Sheerin-Craig-Peaso to name a few- we were damn lucky that the Raith guy missed early on and as one old pensioner in front shouted Mcinness "we need wingers" -I suddenly had a longing to return to the East stand.

3-1 flattered Raith...but had everyone been more interested it could have been 6 or as Kevin(tannoy box) would say (SIX) :***:

As for the reserved "corporate" seating.....16 people for about 50 seats. (FIFTY kev)

[ancientsaint]

My missus turned round and said to me last night - 'Every time he gets on the park, you keep telling me how good this guy is, but how can you tell when they wont give him the bloody ball' :mad:


Has she got her coaching badge yet :mrgreen:

[Saintkev]

I'm happy enough with last night, did enough and we are through. 'Mon The Saints!

One wee aside, I asked a steward why we are not allowed to celebrate anymore... after the first goal she was asking people to sit down as soon as Raith took their centre... and apparently we are no longer allowed to celebrate after the game restarts... so if any future Saints scorers are reading this, please run into the net and punt the ball into the crowd so that we can have more than 45 seconds to enjoy ourselves for a change!!

[Dave H]

Thought it was very comfortable, 3 nil up after an hour, many may forget the good effort all playes made in the 60 mins to get this scoreline. The last half hour was a good training session. First goal was critical and the long ball we had to score was immediate after what should have been a goal for the rovers. Yes :-) counter attack long ball football is superb!

We were quicker to the ball, sharper at closing down - good movement all round. I wonder if Im the only one who thinks there is a better spirit in the team? Good job! I would have cut someones hand off if they offered 3-1 final score.

good travelling support for midweek though.

[dunblanemike]

Thought it was very comfortable, 3 nil up after an hour, many may forget the good effort all playes made in the 60 mins to get this scoreline. The last half hour was a good training session. First goal was critical and the long ball we had to score was immediate after what should have been a goal for the rovers. Yes :-) counter attack long ball football is superb!


I thought it was a superb pass by rustybits. It was definitely a deliberate pass as opposed to a hopeful punt up the park. I saw the goals on sky this morning - Savo took his goal really well.

[stanley saint]

I'm happy enough with last night, did enough and we are through. 'Mon The Saints!

One wee aside, I asked a steward why we are not allowed to celebrate anymore... after the first goal she was asking people to sit down as soon as Raith took their centre... and apparently we are no longer allowed to celebrate after the game restarts... so if any future Saints scorers are reading this, please run into the net and punt the ball into the crowd so that we can have more than 45 seconds to enjoy ourselves for a change!!

aye no worries mate ,