View Full Version : Saints vs. Queen of the South 11/03/08
SJFC1988,
09-03-2008, 03:11 PM
Whos all going to this one?
I think we will win quite comfortably!
Formation wise i'd go:
Main
Irvine Ando Ruti Stanic
Quinn Morris Craig
Jackson Milne MacDonald
Subs: Tucuth, James, Wilson, Sheerin, Weatherson.
Chuck Norris
09-03-2008, 03:21 PM
Don't know about you, but I'm going to see Saints play Queen of the South this week :-)
Radford 72
09-03-2008, 03:22 PM
It's Queens were are playing!
Still disappointed about yesterday's result but maybe good that we have a game again so quickly. Hard to know if they will come full of confidence or if they will be slightly off the boil after a good result yesterday. We need to compete in the same manner we did yesterday as that was a major reason we lost down in Dumfries, they wanted it more than us and bossed us like we did St Mirren yesterday.
They are missing Jim Thomson and Steven Tosh which is a massive bonus for us and they don't have a good recent record in Perth. Their last 6 visits have yielded 1 point and 1 goal, whilst we've scored 17 goals of our own.
As good as Irvine was, I'd return him to full back as well, with Ando, Ruti and Stanic making up the back four. Harsh on McManus who had a good game yesterday but speaks volumes for the depth we have at centre back. Front three picks itself with McBreen and Weatherston injured so the choices to be made are in midfield. Liam Craig has to play and I'm not sure Barry Wilson isn't better suited to an attacking role. If Lynch is fit he could come back in but I'd bring Rocco back in for his attacking ability in a home game and hopefully Jody Morris is able to play again, considering his lack of football in recent months.
Main
Irvine - Rutkiewicz - Anderson - Stanic
Quinn - Morris - Craig
Jackson - Milne - MacDonald
Subbies: Tucuth, James, Sheerin, Wilson, AN Other.
SJFC1988,
09-03-2008, 03:27 PM
Don't know about you, but I'm going to see Saints play Queen of the South this week :-)
Jeez...my bad:o mods please change, cheers.:)
Kevin
09-03-2008, 05:38 PM
No idea when we will finally play that Clyde game, they keep being punted by our cup games (same as they did last season iirc :***:)
auld reekie saint
09-03-2008, 08:55 PM
I feel that we need to get Big Kevin James back into the team.We really lack an aerial threat just now.
Same as Saturday other than James for McManus
Steve Maskrey
09-03-2008, 09:25 PM
The difference will be which team recovers better after the cup games. I reckon we'll win 2-1 :)
They're not an easy team to beat but if they've got a couple of key players out then its a bonus for us. Tough selection choice for Del as the whole defence played well on saturday but I would imagine Irvine will return to right back as his midfield position was more a specific tactical decision than anything else. Can't see John Stewart causing us many problems but as long as we don't give Dobbie much time on the ball then we can do well.
I'll be there but will miss kick off as I finish at 8pm. Hope I don't miss the only goals of the game!
garydavidson
10-03-2008, 06:17 PM
from the bbc -
"Daniel McBreen, Stuart McCaffrey, Greg Cameron, Andy Lawrie, Jamie McCluskey and Sean Lynch continue to miss out through injury for St Johnstone.
But experienced defender Kevin James has resumed training and could be on the verge of a comeback."
so where is hardie?
R.B.B:- Adz
10-03-2008, 09:14 PM
with injuries ect i hope and expect to see:
Main
Irvine Ando James Stanic
Craig Morris Sheerin
Savo Jackson Peaso
dont think rocco or davie W will make it/be risked, not too sure who he will choose in the centre of defence but hope irvine and Ando are both starters.
Tranmere Saintee
10-03-2008, 10:19 PM
I believe Craig and Ando are both suspended for tomorrows game (according Tay AM tonight) so you will need to re-adjust your teams.
St Mikey
10-03-2008, 11:10 PM
BIG BIG GAME! They have not been beaten in the last 7 league games! Including 2
3-1 wins v us and the Coags.
MUST WIN!
CMON THE SOOPA SAINTEES!
Dave H
10-03-2008, 11:16 PM
hopefully their cup success has given them the 'hangover' and we go out and find the net a 5 times. I predict a 5-1 game :)
Kevin
11-03-2008, 12:09 AM
I believe Craig and Ando are both suspended for tomorrows game (according Tay AM tonight) so you will need to re-adjust your teams.
You actually believe them TS? :***:
Ronaldo
11-03-2008, 06:46 AM
I think we'll win in a ery open game. You neer know how it will affect QOS now that they'e reached the Semis, they might have celebrated too much :) , long trip up to Perth and of course not wanting to get injured and miss the trip to Hampden. I think Saints can continue as usual and maybe introduce players back into the team.
templeofsaints
11-03-2008, 06:47 AM
Courier says the same but I'm sure Ando's was a 2-game ban and Laim's only one and both finished at Dens.
Radford 72
11-03-2008, 08:07 AM
Courier says the same but I'm sure Ando's was a 2-game ban and Laim's only one and both finished at Dens.
Liam is still on the list as having a one-match ban starting on 1st March. Obviously he completed that against Dundee so not sure what the issue is. 99% certain they are both eligible tonight.
Craig is out according to the official website, Ando is ok though.
In addition Main is apparently a doubt.
http://www.stjohnstonefc.co.uk/newsitem.asp?NewsID=2437
Radford 72
11-03-2008, 12:39 PM
Craig is out according to the official website...
Must've been a mix up at the SFA has they had him down to miss one game (Dundee) after his booking against Hamilton. He hadn't been wiped from last week's list but then they still had his suspension due to be served from 01/03/08, which was the Dundee game.
Surprised he has two games though, as his record with Falkirk doesn't appear to have been all that bad. Assume Saints have checked it all out though after the near miss with Darren Sheridan a couple of years ago when he had to miss the Gretna game and the club weren't aware.
101 Saint
11-03-2008, 01:59 PM
Sheerin will take Craig's place, but who'll step up to the bench? Thought Wilson should have been given a chance on Saturday, perhaps he'll get 20 minutes tonight?
Broggy Man
11-03-2008, 02:54 PM
Sheerin will take Craig's place, but who'll step up to the bench? Thought Wilson should have been given a chance on Saturday, perhaps he'll get 20 minutes tonight?
Yea strange the Wilson thing he didnt want to come here but the pull of first team football did it 28 day loan one subby appearance would suggest he may start tonight
541ntees
11-03-2008, 03:06 PM
After all this i'm still confused as to who is eligible for the squad but i'll guess
Main
Irvine Ando Rusty Goran
Rocco Morris Wilson
Jacko Savo Peaso
bench- Tucuth, James, Sheerin, Mooner & Weatherston(if fit)
soulfulsaint
11-03-2008, 03:28 PM
Fancy a home win on this one. I'm assuming QOS have to stall sometime, and after a heroic cup tie is the ideal time. 2-0 Saints.
Radford 72
11-03-2008, 05:05 PM
The mystery of Liam Craig is solved by a red card he collected last season as an unused substitute against Hibs! Alan Freeland sent him off for "violent conduct" towards the Hibs fans! 12 points there, another couple of bookings, one of which was in the final game, meant he served a one match ban at the start of the season, hence having two games now, something the SFA missed originally.
You have to have sympathy for Brechin when the SFA don't even know their own rules.
williamwonka
11-03-2008, 05:17 PM
Fancy a home win on this one. I'm assuming QOS have to stall sometime, and after a heroic cup tie is the ideal time. 2-0 Saints.
Im putting that bet on so hopefully you are not wrong!!
McCarry One Nil
11-03-2008, 05:40 PM
I have this feeling as well about QOS being hungover from Saturday and that we'll do them tonight - I went to the Dr's after work as I don't normally feel so cocky about us winning but the stuff he gave me canny be working ...4-1 the Saints
i gonna give qos a round of applause for nocking the coags out.well done and 2 ex saintees rejects scoring braw.after that its back down tae business .get it right up um.
dan the saint
11-03-2008, 06:17 PM
After all this i'm still confused as to who is eligible for the squad but i'll guess
Main
Irvine Ando Rusty Goran
Rocco Morris Wilson
Jacko Savo Peaso
bench- Tucuth, James, Sheerin, Mooner & Weatherston(if fit)
mooner out as he was in hospital the other day
SaintSam1884
11-03-2008, 06:27 PM
Violent conduct towards the fans!
I've heard it all now.
The ghost of Jim Morton
11-03-2008, 07:08 PM
Main, Irvine Ando ,Morris, Rusty ,McManus, Quinn, Peaso,Milne,Jacko, Sheerin
Subs.Weatherston,Moon,James,Wilson, Tucuth
Where,s Stanic...Never heard he was injured.
Team looks okay but hardly awe inspiring!!!!!!!
Don't know why I made that last comment as it,s fairly close to most of our teams this season!!!!!!!!
Scobby_SJFC
11-03-2008, 08:01 PM
C'mon Saints!!!
strauss
11-03-2008, 08:12 PM
Hamilton 1 down at Dunfermline..
Moray Blue
11-03-2008, 08:47 PM
Reading the report on the official site makes it look pretty even so far. Hopefully we can up it a bit second half and maybe creep a bit closer to Dundee and Hamilton (both drawing at HT).
strauss
11-03-2008, 08:55 PM
Looks like Dundee are winning 1-0 now.
Moray Blue
11-03-2008, 08:58 PM
1-0 Queens, Dobbie
dave mc
11-03-2008, 08:58 PM
1-0 down Dobbie
saint in the city
11-03-2008, 08:59 PM
we are one down .Main off his line again
Euanwilkie
11-03-2008, 09:02 PM
ffs
thewhorule2002
11-03-2008, 09:06 PM
Bloody dobbie was crap with us - typical he scores yet again. Queens are on some run right now
Still time for an equaliser though
strauss
11-03-2008, 09:35 PM
2 - 1 Saints!! MacDonald brace!
Moray Blue
11-03-2008, 09:37 PM
wow, forum goes down and we score twice :)
Finners
11-03-2008, 09:38 PM
no way. c'mon you saints!
sleepless
11-03-2008, 09:40 PM
all done
Finners
11-03-2008, 09:40 PM
fulltime. 2-1
Coltrane
11-03-2008, 09:41 PM
Wheeeww..
chips for tea
11-03-2008, 09:41 PM
Jackson has been carted off to the hospital by ambulance,blue lights flashing and all that,seems like a head injury
Euanwilkie
11-03-2008, 09:43 PM
anyone know much about what happened to jacko?
chips for tea
11-03-2008, 09:46 PM
i think it was a knock to the back of his head from Reid
101 Saint
11-03-2008, 09:51 PM
Has now regained consciousness, according to the BBC.
Euanwilkie
11-03-2008, 09:53 PM
apparently he was unconscious but isnt anymore an is responding to treatment. so radio scotland are saying
boring game til mooner and weatherston came on. too cold to type anymore. goodnight
Rodgers
11-03-2008, 10:00 PM
boring game til mooner and weatherston came on. too cold to type anymore. goodnight
same :|
jacko:(
+Super Trooper+
11-03-2008, 10:04 PM
i'm just thankfull that it isnt a neck/back injury which is what it looked to be from the stand
SJFC1988,
11-03-2008, 10:06 PM
Thoght we dominated the whole game...i felt that to the build up to queens goal irvine was tripped??...why was main off his line....shouldnt have been beaten by that far out, was some lob by Dobbie though. The assault on Jacko was an absaloute disgrace and their no. 6 should have been sent off...animal:(
The double sub worked really well and peaso's 2nd was a fantastic goal..all in all it was a deserved victory and was pleasing to see moon come on and do well again:)
Weell Done Del
Steve Maskrey
11-03-2008, 10:12 PM
Main off his line again
It wasn't really Main's fault, I thought Irvine was fouled on the byline but good opportunist goal by Dobbie.
Saints strolled through the first half but failed to do anything with our possession, heck we rarely troubled their keeper. Going behind seemed to stir us into action and the injury to Jacko fired our players up even more. Morris looked a bit jaded after Saturday and we took control of the midfield again when Moon came on.
Quinn looked back to his best in the first half and could've scored in the second but for some woeful finishing
The ghost of Jim Morton
11-03-2008, 10:17 PM
That was possibly one of the worst 70 minutes I have seen all season.Thank god for the last 20.First half Saints enjoyed huge amounts of time on the ball but did very little and when we got in front of goal our finishing was poor.Nuff said.
Second half was only slightly better but again we lacked composure in front of goal and were not helped by a poor main stand linesman who was frankly inept.Gave Rocco offside in a promising attack when he was at least 5 yards onside.Ando had been replaced at half time by Wilson and in a bit of a shuffle it looked to me like Sheerin was playing left back?????Still though we were getting nowhere and then the roof fell in.The Dobster out on the wing flung in a hopeful( maybe I,m being unfair)cross come shot and not for the first time Mr Legend was fecking about off his line and the ball flew over his head and into the left hand corner of the net.I will post my opinions on him in the Alan Main thread....Then Jacko got hurt, looked serious, was out cold I think. He was, after about 5 minutes, strechered off and was subsequently taken to hospital.Del then made a double substitution which turned the game for us. Weatherston and Moon came on and Saints finally came to life. Mc Donald who having a pretty poor game suddenly looked interested and in a grand stand finish he scored 2 goals. 1st was a scrappy goal( they all count) 2nd was a peach. Great turn and strike and the game was in the bag...
Now lets not kid ourselves, this was a poor game for Saints and I think some of the players were really shown up for what they are; not good enough..McManus and Rusty were fine defending but all they do is howf balls out of defence with little or no thought about finding a team mate.I think that they have little to offer in the way of skill or craft and as such should be punted as soon as is convenient for the club.
Moon and Davie looked great when they came on and both should be getting extended run to the end of the season.Three points collected but not very good sums up tonights game.Hope Jackos okay and suffers no long term absence and well done Del for making the changes you did.....
The ghost of Jim Morton
11-03-2008, 10:19 PM
It wasn't really Main's fault, I thought Irvine was fouled on the byline but good opportunist goal by Dobbie.
You guys are fecking unbelievable...Whos fault was it????????Get real!!!!
SaintSam1884
11-03-2008, 10:19 PM
I thought Main was completely at fault for the first goal. Regardless of a foul in the build up or not (and I certainly thought it was) the referee didn't give it and the only reason Dobbie took the shot was because Main was so far off his line. Had he been further back, Dobbie would've been forced to make another choice. Great finish by Dobbie who has turned out to be a fine player for Queens but the goal could have been prevented.
The game had a spell of Saints good, then Saints bad, then Saints good again. We actually improved after Jackson and Morris went off. Weatherston and Moon completely dominated the game between them and put some life into the rest of the team. Even McManus and Rutkiewicz were up there enjoying some good chances. Moon is a great player to have on the bench at the moment. Thought McInnes' substitutions would never come but the man showed once again his tactical genius. Hell, even Sheerin at left back worked.
saint in exile
11-03-2008, 10:27 PM
You guys are fecking unbelievable...Whos fault was it????????Get real!!!!
Thought he was at fault for the St.Mirren goal on saturday as well.Theres no reason to be that far off your line in those circumstances
SaintSam1884
11-03-2008, 10:29 PM
I have seen Main lobbed more times this season than Kevin Cuthbert in the past couple.
Lets be fair, if Kevin Cuthbert gets mauled for it, Main can't be immune to criticism.
Morientes
11-03-2008, 10:33 PM
Well I actually feel pretty positive after that.
I thought we dominated the game and apart from a bad spell after we lost a goal (totally against the run of play) we looked comfortable and got the job done.
First half we missed an open goal - was it Jacko or Sheerin??
Then their defender made a great lunge to deny Jacko after a nice move.
Set pieces were poor but we knocked the ball around well enough.
2nd half was much of the same except for a bad spell, like I said, after their goal.
Gary Irvine may have been fouled but Main has been chipped again and has to shoulder some of the blame, apart from that I thought he had a good game.
The pressure finally paid off when Peaso scored an opportunist goal from a corner then had a great turn and drive in the box to win the match.
Totally agree with the sentiments regarding McInnes' decision making.
Think he picked the right starting 11 who dominated the game and relaly should have been ahead. When he needed to he changed things and it worked well.
What were peoples thoughts on Quinn?
Every time I watch him I feel differently, thought he offered us something different but he doesn't really seem that arsed, doesn't tackle and has large spells of absence.
When he's on song he can play a cracking pass but more often than not he's posted missing.
I'm a big fan of Liam Craig and hope we can keep him next season.
He can tackle, he's classy on the ball, makes things happen, can score and also takes a good set piece. Also, he seems totally fired up, maybe it's just his nature but it's good to see a player with that attitude, especially when he's on loan.
Pity he wasn't eligible tonight.
Beely
11-03-2008, 10:35 PM
I thought Main was completely at fault for the first goal.
Tend to agree with that. Just think Doug Imrie for Clyde earlier this season and you'll get the picture.
Dominated the first half apart from 10 minutes or so. Never looked like scoring really.
Second half a bit livelier but still not particularly good.
Couldn't you just see their goal coming!
I'm not too sure who the young subs were (Weatherston one of them?), 16 and 17 anyway. Looked good and made a difference.
Challenge on Jackson was terrible!
All in all, made heavy weather of an ordinary Queens side.
SaintSam1884
11-03-2008, 10:43 PM
Rocco Quinn played better once Moon came into the midfield.
Rocco is no ball winner, but can do great things with it once we've got it.
Jamie_Beatson
11-03-2008, 10:45 PM
Saints pretty much got the win they deserved, but took their sweet time about it.
We came out of the blocks well and created chances, with a Jackson header going close. Macdonald then had a shot well saved and then with the goal gaping Jackson screwed a shot wide. There was also a damn good block to prevent Jackson tapping into an empty net when Macdonald set him up. Queens had a couple of efforts saved low by Main, but Saints had more ball and chances.
Saints kept up the possession in the early stages of the second half without creating much, but inevitably fell behind with Queens first shot of the second half. Dobbie chased down Irvine out wide, and to me it looked like he basically clattered into the back of him and knocked him over. Ref didn't blow his whistle and Dobbie smashed a quite supberb shot into the top corner frmo practically on the touchline, with Main stranded as he had come out to take a back pass from Irvine.
We battled back and forced a succession of corners (we must have had at least 10 in the game), and had another shot cleared off the line. We finally went ahead when a corner was cleared only to Wilson, whose header hit the upright before Macdonald fired it home.
Macdonald added a second when he controlled well on the edge of the box, spun and drilled a great shot into the far corner - a very good goal.
One bad point though - Queens number 6 hospitalised Andy Jackson when he clattered him from the back. Hard to see exactly what happened so no idea if it was a bad challenge or what, but Jackson was down for a considerable time and was taken away in an ambulance.
Barca-Saintee
11-03-2008, 10:45 PM
I'm not too sure who the young subs were (Weatherston one of them?), 16 and 17 anyway. Looked good and made a difference.
moon is 20, weatherston is 21
Cagey
11-03-2008, 10:46 PM
I think that just about covers it Morientis.
Impressed with Del. He was about to bring Mooner on when Jacko got assaulted & had to be carried off. Some may have been tempted to get Mooner to put his track suit back on & bring Davie on for Jacko but he stuck with his sub of Mooner for Morris & also brought on Davie,Brilliant & brave.
Mooner really is a great wee player.Controlled the midfield ,cool on the ball ,won every tackle & never missed a pass. Davie played really well on the left proving he is a footballer that can use both feet & comfortable on the ball.
Main GTF.
Cagey
11-03-2008, 10:49 PM
moon is 20, weatherston is 21
Think he was meaning shirt numbers.
Jamie_Beatson
11-03-2008, 10:50 PM
I'm starting to wonder what the **** people want Main to do.
On Saturday he had to race out, because by staying on his line he is sayign to Dorman to pick his spot in a corner as he races in. You have to come out there - there are no two ways about it.
And tonight he was miles off his line beacuse he was looking for a backpass frmo Irvine. Or would you rather he stayed rightr on his line and our right back has to take on the defender to get out of trouble? Do you people actually watch the game?
Main was lobbed at Clyde and got a helluva lot of stick there - that one was a total fluke and again went right in the top corner. Just because a keeper gets lobbed does not mean he is at fault for the goal.
Get a ****ing grip.
mainstand
11-03-2008, 10:52 PM
I'm starting to wonder what the **** people want Main to do.
On Saturday he had to race out, because by staying on his line he is sayign to Dorman to pick his spot in a corner as he races in. You have to come out there - there are no two ways about it.
And tonight he was miles off his line beacuse he was looking for a backpass frmo Irvine. Or would you rather he stayed rightr on his line and our right back has to take on the defender to get out of trouble? Do you people actually watch the game?
Main was lobbed at Clyde and got a helluva lot of stick there - that one was a total fluke and again went right in the top corner. Just because a keeper gets lobbed does not mean he is at fault for the goal.
Get a ****ing grip.
Totally agree!!!
Barca-Saintee
11-03-2008, 10:52 PM
What were peoples thoughts on Quinn?
Every time I watch him I feel differently, thought he offered us something different but he doesn't really seem that arsed, doesn't tackle and has large spells of absence.
When he's on song he can play a cracking pass but more often than not he's posted missing.
quinn made plenty of good tackles today.
Barca-Saintee
11-03-2008, 10:53 PM
Think he was meaning shirt numbers.
I misread his post :oops:
Beely
11-03-2008, 10:54 PM
Think he was meaning shirt numbers.
I was actually:-)
Morientes
11-03-2008, 10:56 PM
quinn made plenty of good tackles today.
He won a couple of tackles tonight.
At other times I think he went in half hearted and got the break of the ball a few times.
Don't get me wrong, looking at the guy you can tell he has class, his touch is second to none (especially when doing keepy ups when play has stopped).
But he looks like he thinks he's too good for us, swanning about at his own pace, refusing to play a simple pass to the strikers feet and trying a world cup pass.
Maybe ability wise he is a step above the division but it makes him look as if he's not trying and I don't think we get that much end product out of him.
Tonight was one of his better games I feel, when he was in the game.
But he was absent more often than he was in it.
Agree that he was onside for that 1 on 1 and if he'd scored it probably would have changed my view on him tonight.
templeofsaints
11-03-2008, 11:43 PM
Thought we showed a lot of fight tonight and if the finishing and passing had been better in the 1st half we'd have cruised it. As it was another daft flukey goal lost and we ended up chasing the game but at least managed to start playing the ball on the deck and fighting for it.
Two good goals from Peaso but I thought the whole team did their part tonight. Irvine was excellent on the right and Rocco showed signs of regaining his earlier form.
Maybe ability wise he is a step above the division but it makes him look as if he's not trying and I don't think we get that much end product out of him.
If he really is a step above then he should prove it. He wasn't a success at Killie or Celtic and he won't be a success here either unless he gets the finger out.
I pretty much agree with the rest of what you say. He definitely has periods in a match where he plays some lovely passes and gets involved in the play but that probably adds up to only 20% of the actual game. I'm not convinced that's enough. To give him his credit tonight was his best game for weeks but performances like tonight wouldn't justify offering him a contract for next season IMO.
Barca-Saintee
12-03-2008, 12:10 AM
wilson showed quite a bit of pace at one point when he sprinted past their left back, not bad for a near OAP
McCarry One Nil
12-03-2008, 12:10 AM
1st 20 minutes we could have blown them away but we lost our way and even the beginning of the 2nd half I didn't think we were doing a lot - I thought it was a definite foul on Irvine before Dobbie scored and when Jacko was stretchered am I imagining it or did it get us and the team a bit riled and we drove on from there. Not Peaso's greatest fan but a belter of a 2nd goal. Great 20 minutes from Kevin Moon .
Glad to hear more positive news about Jacko - hope he gets well soon.
Ronaldo
12-03-2008, 12:47 AM
1st 20 minutes we could have blown them away ....
I think that's a great improement on previous weeks in the season where we started slow and have been a great team for coming back <good quality>. Ironically we still did that tonight. :) Great result. Let's hope Hamilton and Dundee struggle, and both of them draw with each other, that might gie me some inspiration.
101 Saint
12-03-2008, 12:57 AM
I see that the Official Site claims the Sheerin going left-back was a tactical switch. I was very close to the dugout and I'm pretty sure that McManus told Del that Ando was struggling with a knock?!
Brave stuff by Del to sub Morris for Moon, especially given the injury to Jacko. Personally, I thought Rocco would've been hooked but it was great to Mooner on field again!!!
I though Rocco showed a great appetite early on and he really got stuck, there's no doubt that with a bit more fight he is an SPL player. We need to see it on a more regular basis.
Wilson looked useful; but he is rusty and age is against him. If we manage a Paisley victory, I think he would be worth keeping until season's end.
Ach well, a guid three points. Form team; whatever losers!
monkfish
12-03-2008, 01:01 AM
Good result, should of won that by a few, which might be a bit worrying. Think we need a big physical presence up front, the amount of crosses with no shot on target was crazy, though full marks to Peaso for winning so many headers.
I thought Main was at fault for the goal tbf, but he's forgiven for skinning Dobbie earlier which was about the only highlight till they scored!
Quinn was better than he has been, but I think having him and Sheerin together in midfield is too much of a luxury. If you're only playing a 3 man midfield you can't afford to have 2 fancy dans, especially when your 'enforcer' is Morris, who puts himself about but is 5 foot nothing.
Not to stoke 101 saints fires, but Mooner was great when he came on, very good at making time and space for himself.
mainstand
12-03-2008, 07:52 AM
I see that the Official Site claims the Sheerin going left-back was a tactical switch. I was very close to the dugout and I'm pretty sure that McManus told Del that Ando was struggling with a knock?!
Anderson was next to teh dugout though. I think you may find Ruti will be struggling for Saturday he appeared to be holding his groin in teh second half last night.
bankfootsaintee
12-03-2008, 08:32 AM
When Weatherston & Moon came on we reverted back to 4-4-2, and played much better with more direct & decisive football coming from Moon than with Morris previously.
Great for Peaso, he deserves the plaudits after playing on the left for so long and sometimes looking out of sorts.
When we upped the tempo and started pressurising a very average opposition thats when we had success, why does it always take the opposition to score before we realise we are in a game?
Biggest mistake by Chisolm was taking off Dobbie & O Connor.
Horrible conditions for the players.... and the supporters.
Radford 72
12-03-2008, 08:34 AM
Dobbie's goal is on the official Queens site, which I can't direct link to for some reason.
Think any criticism of Main's positioning is harsh although we could argue all day about whether a 'keeper should be beaten from there. Sometimes it's just a cracking strike.
To me though, it looks like Irvine gets a toe to the ball and is then clattered by Stewart in the build up.
bankfootsaintee
12-03-2008, 08:36 AM
Dobbie's goal was pure class. I thought some of his passing & lay offs in the first half were sublime.
Can't blame Main for this one.
Jamie_Beatson
12-03-2008, 09:06 AM
Video has totally changed my perspective on things. I thought he was all alone out there - didn't realise there were so many players about.
First of all - how is that not a free kick? Stewart clearly trips Irvine.
Other than that though, Main is actually positioned fairly well. He is standing inside his front post waiting on a cross coming in. It is simply a fantastic strike by Dobber.
Ronaldo
12-03-2008, 09:19 AM
It is simply a fantastic strike by Dobber.
He's turning into a fantastic striker. John Connolly was right all along. :wink: Mind you JC was always shouting at him when he was here because he was lazy and this obviously frustrated JC knowing Dobbie's unfulfilled talent.
Looks a good goal from the video;
http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-2169004784870821062&hl=en-GB
ancientsaint
12-03-2008, 02:05 PM
One bad point though - Queens number 6 hospitalised Andy Jackson when he clattered him from the back. Hard to see exactly what happened so no idea if it was a bad challenge or what, but Jackson was down for a considerable time and was taken away in an ambulance.
Incident occurred directly in-line of where i was.....REID used his elbow in the challenge-then the head-then his leg into the back of Jacko....very surprised that the guy only received a yellow card...this wasnt a challenge for the ball at all.
Refereeing standard seems to be getting worse - Winter last night and his 2 assistants got simple decisions wrong and there should be video evidence played to them after each game rather than this stupid idea of a couple of assistants standing behind each goal......if 3 of them cant communicate then what chance have 5 got......£400 match fee....Winter should donate it to charity.
Steve Maskrey
12-03-2008, 02:11 PM
It was an opportunist goal that very few strikers in the division would've attempted without taking a couple of touches first. Some people forget how good Dobbie is at striking the ball. Just a shame he didn't do it more often when he was here
garydavidson
12-03-2008, 10:02 PM
he has just found a club that will let him stay fat and play, credit to him he has done brilliantly but owen obviously had a philosophy that dobbie never fitted in and so was allowed to leave no matter how good he was at finishing.
541ntees
12-03-2008, 11:08 PM
mooner out as he was in hospital the other day
Just as well he made it he turned the game around
Bloody dobbie was crap with us - typical he scores yet again. Queens are on some run right now
Still time for an equaliser though
an time for a winner! I actually thought Dobbie looked a class player whenever he got his chance it was jus his weight that made Owen get rid of him
That was a great goal, nothing the keeper can do against that. For sure it was a foul in the lead up to it though as people have mentioned.
Oldmuirton
13-03-2008, 10:44 AM
At the time I thought it was just a good goal -maybe a little bit flukey but not saveable. But having seen the video posted by DHS I actually think Main badly misjudged the flight of the ball and should probably have saved it.
But he's still our best keeper.
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