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HeronAddict
01-03-2006, 03:13 PM
So does anyone know if Anderson is likely to be fit for saturday? If he is, then he'll obviously come in for Mensing, if not then I'd assume Fotheringham would come in on the left of the back three, with James moving into the centre and Rutkiewicz on the right.

Perhaps a more difficult decision is who to drop if Sheridan's ready to come back, and I assume he is. I don't think Dobbie can be dropped, with Hardie put back up front, given how well the Dobster played against Hamilton, and therefore I'd probably leave Winter on the bench. He's not really been that prominent in the last 2 games, and for me Hardie offers more of a presence in the centre of the park.

This really is a must win game. While Airdrie have been a bit of bogie team for us, they haven't won in the league since beating us on new years eve, so there's no doubt who the form team is. It should therefore be one of the easier games of the run-in, so we can't afford to drop any points.

double deluxe
01-03-2006, 03:52 PM
I would switch winter with sheridan

Kevin
01-03-2006, 04:19 PM
Glennon

Ando - Ruti - James

Stevo - Hardie - Shez - Peanut - Stanic

Rocket - Dobster

Subbies: Cat, Fozzy, Coyle, Winter, Scrabble/Thierry.

Jargon, just pure jargon..... :?

Hazel1884
01-03-2006, 04:32 PM
Jargon, just pure jargon..... :?

Glennon

Anderson - Rutkiewicz - James

Stevenson - Hardie - Sheridan - Sheerin - Stanic

Scotland - Dobbie

Think that's what he meant! :wink:

Kevin
01-03-2006, 04:33 PM
Glennon

Ando - Ruti - James

Stevo - Hardie - Shez - Peanut - Stanic

Rocket - Dobster

Subbies: Cat, Fozzy, Coyle, Winter, Scrabble/Thierry.

Jargon, just pure jargon..... :?

Glennon

Anderson - Rutkiewicz - James

Stevenson - Hardie - Sheridan - Sheerin - Stanic

Scotland - Dobbie

Think that's wwhat he meant! :wink:

Thanks Hazel, now why could he have just done that in the first place??? :roll:

chopper
02-03-2006, 09:29 AM
Well boo hoo! At least they're actually the right players though, maybe if I called Fotheringham Janczyk or Dobbie Paston it would make more sense! :roll: :P :wink:

:***: :***:

The defence rests m'lud

Hazel1884
02-03-2006, 09:34 AM
Well boo hoo! At least they're actually the right players though, maybe if I called Fotheringham Janczyk or Dobbie Paston it would make more sense! :roll: :P :wink:

Saucer of milk for Kevin at Table 2! :wink: :wink: MEOW!

LewGti
02-03-2006, 01:51 PM
Now now children...Settle down :***:


Anyway, i am really up for this, feels like ages since Hamilton. I totally agree Airdrie are our boggie team. I think we have only beaten them once since they became Airdrie United, hopefully twice come 5 o`clock on Saturday.

C`mon the saints!
Get it up you Airdre!

stanley saint
02-03-2006, 04:36 PM
definately 3 points needed and i think Saturday will be a big 3 for us :D

perthpack
02-03-2006, 05:59 PM
GLENNON

ANDERSON RUSTY JAMES

STEVENSON WINTER SHERIDAN SHEERIN STANIC

SCOTLAND HARDIE




subs:CUTHBERT-DOBBIE-COYLE-FOZZY-HENRY :

Broon
02-03-2006, 08:09 PM
Hows the weather looking up in Perth? Its meant to snow and get to -6 Friday night. I wonder if the games in danger?

auld reekie saint
02-03-2006, 08:17 PM
Hows the weather looking up in Perth? Its meant to snow and get to -6 Friday night. I wonder if the games in danger?


No problems.Unlike some SPL clubs we have undersoil heating which is reliable

Broon
02-03-2006, 08:39 PM
Hows the weather looking up in Perth? Its meant to snow and get to -6 Friday night. I wonder if the games in danger?


No problems.Unlike some SPL clubs we have undersoil heating which is reliable

Not sure it works under 2 feet of snow though :)

I also hope they remember to grit the car park and the stands too!

Ronaldo
03-03-2006, 09:31 AM
BETTER GET THAT HEATING SYSTEM TURNED ON UNDER THE PITCH
.... there's white stuff coming down from the sky.

TheBigCheese
03-03-2006, 09:36 AM
The Brechin v. Midden game must be in serious doubt so we should really pull out all the stops to get this game on and get ourselves 3 points closer.

Ronaldo
03-03-2006, 10:12 AM
Totally agree.
Any advantage that puts them under pressure and makes them a bit more jittery the better. :D

StDuncM
03-03-2006, 11:00 AM
I know we have undersoil heating but can you put some sort of cover over the pitch as well, if the forecast is for snow and it comes down thick and fast. Then you could call on some volunteers to clear the snow away and roll up the covers.

Or is that too dangerous?

TheBigCheese
03-03-2006, 11:02 AM
I know we have undersoil heating but can you put some sort of cover over the pitch as well, if the forecast is for snow and it comes down thick and fast. Then you could call on some volunteers to clear the snow away and roll up the covers.

Or is that too dangerous?

I think the pitch will be fine, the problem will most likely be the car park which will need cleared before we get the go-ahaead to play.

wee john
03-03-2006, 11:10 AM
I know we have undersoil heating but can you put some sort of cover over the pitch as well, if the forecast is for snow and it comes down thick and fast. Then you could call on some volunteers to clear the snow away and roll up the covers.

Or is that too dangerous?

I think the pitch will be fine, the problem will most likely be the car park which will need cleared before we get the go-ahaead to play.

I can never understand the car park issue.
Most grounds in Scotland do not even have a car park.
We do not need to use it, no rules saying otherwise and at the least we could use the flat ground round the fieldturf instead of parking on the slope.
Do the police close the shops in the retail park when the car park is covered? no, why close McD? Complete bollox.

Steve Maskrey
03-03-2006, 11:30 AM
Shock news in the press this morning that Jim Weir could even play :shock:

Given that he's played in every bounce game and is naturally fit, I wouldn't be concerned if he did play

blueheaven
03-03-2006, 11:56 AM
I can never understand the car park issue.
Most grounds in Scotland do not even have a car park.
We do not need to use it, no rules saying otherwise and at the least we could use the flat ground round the fieldturf instead of parking on the slope.
Do the police close the shops in the retail park when the car park is covered? no, why close McD? Complete bollox.

I've always thought that as well - there's plenty of parking available in the streets, particularly as we're not exactly going to get a huge crowd for this one.

On the team front, I see the PA is hinting that Hardie will be up front again to make way for Sheridan. Have to say I'd be a bit disappointed if Dobbie is dropped - the guy is clearly a confidence player and it seems mad to drop him again just as he seems to be rebuilding it. Dropping him now could be him right back to square 1. My choice would be to bring Sheridan in for Winter instead.

Nick
03-03-2006, 12:05 PM
What's the games chances for tomorrow? Good layer of snow, that I can't see melting in these temperatures. If theres a freeze tonight and the snows still lying I doubt the game will be on.

templeofsaints
03-03-2006, 12:19 PM
On the team front, I see the PA is hinting that Hardie will be up front again to make way for Sheridan. Have to say I'd be a bit disappointed if Dobbie is dropped - the guy is clearly a confidence player and it seems mad to drop him again just as he seems to be rebuilding it. Dropping him now could be him right back to square 1. My choice would be to bring Sheridan in for Winter instead.

Agree about Dobbie - we need to have two natural strikers playing up front. Not sure about dropping Winter - if we're chopping a midfielder I'd be more inclined to put Ryan on the bench.

chopper
03-03-2006, 12:20 PM
What's the games chances for tomorrow? Good layer of snow, that I can't see melting in these temperatures. If theres a freeze tonight and the snows still lying I doubt the game will be on.

Game will be fine - no predicted snowfall tonight so hopefully the youngsters will be out earning their corn by clearing the car park along with the ground staff.

As for the team - I would keep the same 11 as last Saturday although, as mentioned earlier, Airdrie have been physically superior than us so Hardie and Sheridan in the middle alongside either Sheerin or Winter would be the logical move, especially with Dobbie and Scotland looking quite good as a pairing through at Hamilton.

StDuncM
03-03-2006, 12:22 PM
What's the games chances for tomorrow? Good layer of snow, that I can't see melting in these temperatures. If theres a freeze tonight and the snows still lying I doubt the game will be on.

Forecast is for rain overnight and temperatures 3 or 4 degrees above freezing tomorrow.

TheBigCheese
03-03-2006, 01:08 PM
On the team front, I see the PA is hinting that Hardie will be up front again to make way for Sheridan. Have to say I'd be a bit disappointed if Dobbie is dropped - the guy is clearly a confidence player and it seems mad to drop him again just as he seems to be rebuilding it. Dropping him now could be him right back to square 1. My choice would be to bring Sheridan in for Winter instead.

Totally agree, I thought Winter was pretty poor against Accies, getting pushed off the ball far too easily. Dobbie on the other hand was excellent and is certainly worth his place.

HeronAddict
03-03-2006, 01:57 PM
Agree about Dobbie - we need to have two natural strikers playing up front. Not sure about dropping Winter - if we're chopping a midfielder I'd be more inclined to put Ryan on the bench.

Stevenson's really the only player we have who can play in the right wing back role - as far as I know Winter can't play there. I agree that it would be a big blow to Dobbie's confidence if he was dropped - the only decision for me is Winter down to the bench, with Sheridan coming in.

Saint Hayley
03-03-2006, 02:56 PM
Undersoil heating WILL be on.

Id play

Glennon

Anderson - Rutkiewicz - James

Stevenson - Hardie - Sheridan - Sheerin - Stanic

Scotland - Dobbie

All thats left to say is GAME ON !! Mon the bluuuuues!!

p.s good luck to the guys.

Hazel1884
03-03-2006, 03:20 PM
Id play

Glennon

Anderson - Rutkiewicz - James

Stevenson - Hardie - Sheridan - Sheerin - Stanic

Scotland - Dobbie

In other words, the team Radford posted?? :wink: :P :wink:

Hazel1884
03-03-2006, 03:27 PM
We usually have a problem when we play Airdrie away, but seem to be ok at home so hopefully it will be 3 points tomorrow.

Agree with Kev's team, and hopefully Anderson will have a good game and continue this run through Mensing's 3 game ban (and possibly after! :wink: - but i imagine that will be hard given Mensing's run of form of late!)

Would be wrong to drop Dobster, he done well down at Hamilton last week and with Peaso and Savo being out i take it the only other available option is Coyle or Dorris?

Mon the bluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuues!

P.S Dig Deep for the buckets! :)

Al C
03-03-2006, 03:46 PM
Can Winter not also play at the back? Seem to remember him playing there for Aberdeen against Celtic earlier in the season in a sweeper type role. You could therefore move him to middle of back three, Rusty on the right, James on left. Sheridan could take Winter's place in midfield. Just a thought.

templeofsaints
03-03-2006, 04:57 PM
Agree about Dobbie - we need to have two natural strikers playing up front. Not sure about dropping Winter - if we're chopping a midfielder I'd be more inclined to put Ryan on the bench.

Stevenson's really the only player we have who can play in the right wing back role - as far as I know Winter can't play there. I agree that it would be a big blow to Dobbie's confidence if he was dropped - the only decision for me is Winter down to the bench, with Sheridan coming in.

Possibly but you could play Hardie on the right wing possibly or else try Jason in more of a free role in midfield with Hardie and Dobbie up front?

Saint Hayley
03-03-2006, 06:35 PM
Id play

Glennon

Anderson - Rutkiewicz - James

Stevenson - Hardie - Sheridan - Sheerin - Stanic

Scotland - Dobbie

In other words, the team Radford posted?? :wink: :P :wink:

Yeah. Im starting to think now about OC coming on alot soonner than he usually does as Scotland has been a bitty slow compared to his usual standard.

But hey im confident we may have troubles when we play them away but we're on home turf and the guys will do us proud. All we have to do is give oor boys the backing make alot of noise and most importantly KEEP THE FAITH.

LewGti
03-03-2006, 07:01 PM
What's the games chances for tomorrow? Good layer of snow, that I can't see melting in these temperatures. If theres a freeze tonight and the snows still lying I doubt the game will be on.

Game will be fine - no predicted snowfall tonight so hopefully the youngsters will be out earning their corn by clearing the car park along with the ground staff.


Thats good, i was starting to get worried when i heard the games at Brechin and Stranny where off.

What are the roads in to Perth like, i presume the A9 should be ok but does anyone know for def. What is the weather in Perth like at the moment.

C`mon the saints!

mabosser
03-03-2006, 08:13 PM
A9 from Stirling fine at 6pm tonight. Don't forsee any probs with travel. :***:

stanley saint
03-03-2006, 08:40 PM
Undersoil heating WILL be on.

Id play

Glennon

Anderson - Rutkiewicz - James

Stevenson - Hardie - Sheridan - Sheerin - Stanic

Scotland - Dobbie

All thats left to say is GAME ON !! Mon the bluuuuues!!

p.s good luck to the guys.

i concur ...

Cagey
03-03-2006, 10:26 PM
I wouldn`t disagree with that team. Shame to drop Winter on the strength of one below par performance & he did play well in his first game.

This is agame we must win especially as St Mirren game is off . If the gap narrows it will put pressure on them even if they have the game in hand.

Mind you every game is a must win until the end of the season if we want to go up.

LewGti
04-03-2006, 12:00 AM
A9 from Stirling fine at 6pm tonight. Don't forsee any probs with travel. :***:


Cheers mabosser :***:

Hope Dobbie gets another chance tomorrow, i thought he was class a couple of weeks ago against the accies.
A must win with Midden and County not playing we could close up on them and keep the pressure well and truely on them, just wish their games in hand were not against Brechin and Stranny :***: but who nose, maybe they can do us a wee favour. Really up for this one, c`mon everyone get behind the boys, and also if Dobbie starts everyone give him a big cheer and clap, the poor guy needs it.

C`mon saints
Dobbie for the winner me thinks.

stanley saint
04-03-2006, 04:48 AM
i reckon 1 goal from Dobbie could start off a goal spree from the lad...

StDuncM
04-03-2006, 08:47 AM
i reckon 1 goal from Dobbie could start off a goal spree from the lad...

The time of this post is noted and frankly it could have only been posted with the aid of C2H5OH!

LewGti
04-03-2006, 08:50 AM
Whats the weather in Perth like this morning. Was there anymore snow overnight.

templeofsaints
04-03-2006, 08:54 AM
Whats the weather in Perth like this morning. Was there anymore snow overnight.None according to my Mum but BBC is saying there's a police decision for our game and the Scumdee one this morning - not sure if that means the "Car Park Factor" comes into play or not. :D

LewGti
04-03-2006, 08:57 AM
Cheers temple :wink:

Do you know when the decision will be made, really really want this game to go ahead today. I would be gutted :( if its called off.

If the car park was unsafe would that mean that the game is off or just that the car park is closed.

Ronaldo
04-03-2006, 09:08 AM
Just to be different (and probably forgetting injuries & suspensions) :) -

--------------------------- Glennon --------------------------
Anderson ------- -----Ruti --------- James -------- Stanic
--------------------------- Winter -----------------------
------------ Sheridan ---------------- Sheerin ------------
------------------------- - Hardie -------------------
-----------------Scotland ---------- Dobbie -----------

Subs: Cuthbert, Fotheringham, Henry, Stevenson, Doris.

LewGti
04-03-2006, 09:36 AM
Game on :***: or Game off :(

What the latest, anybody know?

HeronAddict
04-03-2006, 10:26 AM
"No problems anticipated"

http://www.stjohnstonefc.co.uk/newsitem~NewsID~1631.asp

Nick
04-03-2006, 11:20 AM
Match goes ahead

http://www.stjohnstonefc.co.uk/newsitem~NewsID~1632.asp

LewGti
04-03-2006, 12:15 PM
Oh yes baby!!!!!

Game On Game On Game on.

C`mon saints

Phil
04-03-2006, 03:02 PM
Saints 0 - 1 Airdrie :(

BerlinSaint
04-03-2006, 03:20 PM
G Twigg (2)
:?

taylorboy69
04-03-2006, 03:32 PM
Not looking good :(

Can anyone recall the last time we came from a goal down to win a game?

Indicator
04-03-2006, 03:50 PM
Nope !! 2 minutes fer gawdssake. Nothing like making it tougher than it already was.

Talk about the Bogey team and the proverbial 1st Hurdle.

I don't know how we are playing but if we blow this today St Mirren will be laffing all the way to the last gem. Not to mention Hamilton and RC.

BerlinSaint
04-03-2006, 04:04 PM
Dobbie now on for Winter 46

BerlinSaint
04-03-2006, 04:09 PM
Now 0-2 down :shock: well that's my prediction down the drain

Phil
04-03-2006, 04:17 PM
1-2 now
Hardie I think.

c'mon the saints.

pezza70
04-03-2006, 04:37 PM
Coyle for Stevenson 10 mins to go

'Mon the saintees

pezza70
04-03-2006, 04:45 PM
James in the 89th

2-2

"mon the saints

BerlinSaint
04-03-2006, 04:48 PM
FT 2-2

pezza70
04-03-2006, 04:49 PM
Full Time scores

Dundee 2 Hamilton 4

QoS 2 Clyde 1

Saintees 2 Airdrie 2

HeronAddict
04-03-2006, 05:28 PM
Very, very dissapointed (and extremely cold!) after that today. The first half in particular was totally unacceptable - we certainly looked nothing like a team that really believed in their ability and wanted to win the league. I think there's no doubt Coyle got his team selection wrong - Winter was totally anonymous, and the fact that he got hauled off at HT suggests Coyle knew he got it wrong.

The boss deserves credit for the second half though. He took a big gamble and went for 4 up front, and luckily it worked. Still I don't think a draw's good enough, and for me any lingering chances we had of winning the league are gone now. To be honest today was symptomatic of the way we've played at home all season - the amount of times we've played really well at McD this season can be counted on one hand, and assuming we're still in the first next season the quality of football we play at home has to be improved.

By the way, the one part of quality entertainment from today was the linesman (sorry, assistant referee) on the East Stand side - he ran like a girl :***:

Tranmere Saintee
04-03-2006, 06:56 PM
By the way, the one part of quality entertainment from today was the linesman (sorry, assistant referee) on the East Stand side - he ran like a girl :***:

That is a very sexist remark - I have never ever seen a girl run that badly :***:

dave mc
04-03-2006, 07:02 PM
Heron Addict wrote"By the way, the one part of quality entertainment from today was the linesman (sorry, assistant referee) on the East Stand side - he ran like a girl " :***:

All around me commented on the "big poof"too! :***:


Very poor first 45,but did pick up in the 2nd,but as i've said before,draws have killed us this season,we had enough chances to win but thats been the story all season.

ally bon
04-03-2006, 07:35 PM
could be worse, check put the BBC result for Saints.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_div_1/4769028.stm


Idiots

templeofsaints
04-03-2006, 08:45 PM
Temple report is up now but FWIW I thought we were simply crap. Too casual by far in the 1st half, unable to link up properly and the midfield was out of it (Dazza had his worst game of the season).

2nd got better after we scored and we certainly pressed a lot but too many players were found wanting today - Stevenson, Winter, Dobbie to name a few.

Plus points were the fight shown towards the end, Hardie's overall play once he had more support, Scotland's creativity (and restraining himself whenever the Airdrie thugs were trying to kick him off the ball or wind him up - eg the no2 having major words with him). We have to stop letting teams come at us in the opening stages and start taking the game to them. God knows we're fit enough that we can press a team for the 90 like we did Airdrie for the last half-hour today.

Anyway - at least we closed the gap :roll: :***:

MUZZ
05-03-2006, 07:48 AM
CRAP :evil: didnt start playing tl we were 2 down and even then airdre shouldve killed us off. fair play to the boys for pulling it back but its division 1 for us next season. no doubts about it

HertsSaintee
05-03-2006, 08:35 AM
could be worse, check put the BBC result for Saints.

:***: Typical BBC. They probably also thought that "Tony Blair was the best player on the park" in that game.


Herts

templeofsaints
05-03-2006, 10:25 AM
If anyone's interested video highlights are now up - 20MB this week :***:

blueheaven
05-03-2006, 12:09 PM
I didn't think we were as bad as some seem to be making out, but I think the game did highlight why we're not ready for the Premier - when we're at our best we've got the makings of a good side, but we're still too inconsistent and Coyle is still a manager making mistakes.

I thought Coyle made two big errors - he shouldn't have done so much tinkering to what was a winning combination. Obviously Anderson for Mensing was enforced and it's fair enough bringing Sheridan back in, but why drop an on-form striker in favour of playing a midfielder out of position? Bringing Dobbie on for Winter was the right decision at half-time (and gave us the 11 men on the pitch who should have started in the first place), but I thought he made another error at that point by switching to a back 4. Why disrupt a defence which has looked comfortable lately?

You've got to think that, of the two clear-cut chances that fell to Hardie in the first half, Dobbie would have been odds on to score at least one of them. Hardie looks good, but he didn't have the instinct to take those chances and that's the difference between a striker and a midfielder. You'd think that a guy with Coyle's background would recognise that and want strikers playing in strikers' positions whenever possible. I really think dropping Dobbie cost us the points yesterday.

Thought the team showed great character in coming back though, and I have to say I had a chuckle at all the people in the car park who came rushing back down the hill when we equalised - did they think they were going to get a replay? I'll never understand why anyone would leave a game early, particularly when Saints were putting on the pressure and the goal was make or break. It's not as if you never get goals in the last few minutes of games. And for the price it is to get into McD these days, I want to squeeze every last second out of my money! :P

Tranmere Saintee
05-03-2006, 12:33 PM
Hardie will be a great player for us.

Well, at the next game will you sit down the front and have words will the tit (who I nearly came to blows with just before half-time) who started slagging him off after 30 seconds as being completley shite :x

When I asked him who was playing well, his response was I don't give a f*ck - Hardie is shite!! Is this what is know as a well thought out, reasoned, response :?:

As stated, if Hardie was and out & out striker then I think we would have won the game comfortably.

stanley saint
05-03-2006, 01:05 PM
just watched the highlights , le freak took his goal well . but hardie had 2 good oppertuinity's to score in the first half

dave mc
05-03-2006, 01:56 PM
Very poor first 45,but did pick up in the 2nd,but as i've said before,draws have killed us this season,we had enough chances to win but thats been the story all season.
Airdrie United have killed us this season. They've taken seven points from us. Where would we be with those seven points? :(


True Radford,but so have Scumdee,draws versus Stranraer(twice) County,Clyde and even theMirren,when we should have won them all,amounts to an awful lot of dropped points, not just Airdries 7.

Saint Hayley
05-03-2006, 03:02 PM
That was a poor game, i was well up for this one but it wasnt to be, thought the whole midfeild was non excistant except stanic. first 45 verry poor was disapointed. picked up in the second but still not as good as we should have. very disappointed in the game but the only good thing was we never got beat. Oh and the linesman he ran worst than me and thts saying something.

Cagey
05-03-2006, 10:31 PM
Airdrie only had 2 shots at goal until we had to commit everyone to attack. The first goal should have been avoided. Stevo & Ando gave McLaren too much room . Glennon maybe should have done better than just palm it away then when if landed at Twigg`s feet he should have been closed down. Second goal, I thought Sheridan was fouled before he was penalised Free kick was a deflection so a wee bit unlucky.

If we want to win the league we have to go for it straight from kick off .even if that means leaving us stretched at the back as we will not make up on Midden or Ross by playing negative football.

Just think how the crowd reacted when we went back to 2-1. If we went gung ho then the crowd may back the team rather than sitting as if they were at a music recital.

Broon
06-03-2006, 08:35 AM
FWIW I thought it was a really enjoyable game yesterday. The football wasnt the best but it was quite exciting.

Winter sold the first goal simply because he could't be arsed 1. Marking his man at the throw in and 2. Chasing him to stop him slinging in the cross. I thought his application was shocking yesterday and I would have subbed him after 15 mins - he didn't want to be there.

The second goal, although a tad unlucky was completely Sheridans fault. A stupid foul to give away then he broke away from the wall and the ball deflected off him. Professionall footballers who can't link arms and stand next to each other for all of 5 seconds :oops: :oops: :oops: .

I thought Dobbie played very well when he came on - looked dangerous and linked well. Stanic again had a brilliant game - the guy gets better and better. He drove forward at every oppertunity and sent Hardie through with a brilliant pass. Glennon also kept us in it with two good stops - great positioning.

I'm starting to think Hardie will be a super player for us in Midfield - some of his passing is excellent and he has a bit of dig about him. Coyle however really shouldn't bother bringing himself on - he doesnt offer anything. What happened to young Doris?

Broon
06-03-2006, 08:43 AM
Coyle however really shouldn't bother bringing himself on - he doesnt offer anything. What happened to young Doris?
Maybe he didn't directly have a massive impact but his presence on the field saw us step up a couple of gears. We won three games in a row with him in attack a couple of months ago. I still think he has something to offer.

He hardly touched the ball. No passes or shots, no headers won. Doris would contribute far more in that situation. I have yet to see Coyle have a good game for us. I think he has to admit he's done and give the young guys a shot.

Who were the three wins against?

blueheaven
06-03-2006, 11:36 AM
He hardly touched the ball. No passes or shots, no headers won. Doris would contribute far more in that situation. I have yet to see Coyle have a good game for us. I think he has to admit he's done and give the young guys a shot.

It was when he was on the park that we came back, though. As Radford says, I think his very presence gives the players a kick up the arse. Even if he doesn't touch the ball, when he's on the park the other players seem to produce the goods.

As for Doris - if he's good enough, he'll get his chance in time. But this is not the time for experimenting with youngsters. If/when we drop out of the title race, I'm sure he'll get another shot.

Broon
06-03-2006, 11:41 AM
It was when he was on the park that we came back, though. As Radford says, I think his very presence gives the players a kick up the arse. Even if he doesn't touch the ball, when he's on the park the other players seem to produce the goods.

As for Doris - if he's good enough, he'll get his chance in time. But this is not the time for experimenting with youngsters. If/when we drop out of the title race, I'm sure he'll get another shot.

I don't think Doris should be starting games and I agree its not time for experimenting but we were throwing on a 4th striker. With his pace he would have been a handful. Maybe Coyle does give them a kick up the backside but he should be able to have that infuence from the sidelines. If the players only respond when the managers on the pitch beside them then you have to ask what type of players we actually have?

wee john
07-03-2006, 09:31 AM
Forgive me if I am repeating what has already been said, cannot be bothered reading every post.
IMHO Coyle was to blame for the draw on Saturday.
Dobie was arguably MOM against Hamilton and was dropped for a midfielder to be put up front in his place.
Dobie is a confidence player and after playing so well the week before was dropped, any confdence gained will have been lost again.
Sheridan was put back into central midfield after recently playing just behind the midfield, the result was the midfield lacked the punch to push forward as they have been doing lately.
Our slim hopes are dashed again.

Shaggy Jenkins
07-03-2006, 10:50 AM
Forgive me if I am repeating what has already been said, cannot be bothered reading every post.
IMHO Coyle was to blame for the draw on Saturday.
Dobie was arguably MOM against Hamilton and was dropped for a midfielder to be put up front in his place.
Dobie is a confidence player and after playing so well the week before was dropped, any confdence gained will have been lost again.
Sheridan was put back into central midfield after recently playing just behind the midfield, the result was the midfield lacked the punch to push forward as they have been doing lately.
Our slim hopes are dashed again.

Yup totally spot on. We need Hardie's bite in the midfield. He played well up there but only should be used if we do not have any other options