#23 - 13/01/09 - Rangers (h) - Scottish Cup

[Macarius]

Well its appears the Ross County game tomorrow is going to get called off due to the chilblain Highland winter.

With Ross County out the way, that places our next game against the *cough* mighty Glasgow Rangers.

Who would you have in your team for the Rangers game?

Obviously, Main in goals, no surprise there.

Centre defence, I'd go with Rusty and Caff. Don't get me wrong, I'm desperate too see Garters play but it doesn't feel right for him to walk into the team for this game considering how well Rusti and Caff were doing. Irvine at right back and I'm a bit stuck on left back. I've seen Hanlon play once and he looked composed and able but I don't know whether we should start him or Garters at left back. I'd be tempted to start Garters just because hes a bit older and a bit more experienced even if its not his ideal role.

Midfield is a bit of a jigsaw puzzle. I'd keep Sheerin on the bench with a view to him getting a run on about 60-70 minutes depending on how the games going. He changed the semi final last april setting up Mcbreen so I reckon he's still got the magic against the big teams.

I'd say we need Morris in centre mid. Not sure who should partner him. I'd keep Millar on the bench, Swankie on the bench and maybe play Samuell on right wing and Craig on left.

Upfront, I feel it needs to be Savo and Jacko possibly with an appaerance for Reynolds at some point.

So, your views?

[Finners]

same 11 that played v clyde.

gartland, moon, mclean, jacko, samuel on the bench

[ancientsaint]

Difficult choice ...do we field a strong team or do we let the "glasgow cup" to go back to glasgow with a weakened squad and concentrate on the Thistle game at Firhill as the league title is our prime aim.

All for beating the OF in these games -but id rather we had no injuries for the league - than one shot at winning a cup game.

I just dont know......how important is it to the club.

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Suppose we better start thinking about this game now. Nothing to lose , money to be made and huns to kick.
I hope we can make a game of it and based on the last two matches against them, they'll be more concerned about us than we are about them.
I'm looking forward to a good sing song but strangely I'm not overly excited about the game. Team wise... Hows about...

Main

Irvine, Rusty, Caff, Hanlon

Swanks, Millar, Moon, Morris, Craig

Savo

Subs. McLean,Hardie,Gartland, Sheerin, McDonald.

Rested...Holmes, Jacko, Ando, James, Samuel.

[herdo]

Main
Irvine Rusty Caff Hanlon
Millar Morris Craig Swankie
Holmes Samuel

Subs: Mclean Gartland Hardie Peaso Savo/Sheerin

If we wanted a more physical approach it would be interesting to see something like this..
Main
Caff Rusty Gartland
Irvine Craig
Morris Hardie Millar
Holmes Peaso

...but i dont think we should let "them" intimidate us because we normally get on perfectly well against "bigger" teams when we play our own game. Dont see this happening but just an opinion, cant see many changes from the clyde game.

[saintee4life]

Suppose we better start thinking about this game now. Nothing to lose , money to be made and huns to kick.
I hope we can make a game of it and based on the last two matches against them, they'll be more concerned about us than we are about them.
I'm looking forward to a good sing song but strangely I'm not overly excited about the game. Team wise... Hows about...

Main

Irvine, Rusty, Caff, Hanlon

Swanks, Millar, Moon, Morris, Craig

Savo

Subs. McLean,Hardie,Gartland, Sheerin, McDonald.

Rested...Holmes, Jacko, Ando, James, Samuel.

that team could be spot on ghost

[Alan Main FanClub]

Main
Irvine Rusty Caff Hanlon
Millar Morris Craig Swankie
Holmes Samuel

Subs: Mclean Gartland Hardie Peaso Savo/Sheerin

If we wanted a more physical approach it would be interesting to see something like this..
Main
Caff Rusty Gartland
Irvine Craig
Morris Hardie Millar
Holmes Peaso

...but i dont think we should let "them" intimidate us because we normally get on perfectly well against "bigger" teams when we play our own game. Dont see this happening but just an opinion, cant see many changes from the clyde game.

I'd go for;

Main
Irvine Hanlon Rusty Caff
Swankie Morris/Craig/Moon Sheerin
Holmes Savo

Gartland, Morris/Craig/Moon, Millar, Peaso, McLean.

Reason for this is Gartland shouldn't walk straight in, and disrupt a good partnership. However, if he comes on and plays better than either Rusty or Caff, he should be given a start in the next game. The reason I've picked Swanks is that he is our only naturally right midfielder. The obvious choice in the middle would be Craig and Morris HOWEVER I think this is exactly the kind of game Mooner would be most effective in. A Moon/Morris partnership could work, both like to get stuck in and both are great footballing players. Maybe even Swankie, Morris, Moon, Craig... although Sheerin deserves to start the game. And I still feel Holmes and Savo is our best partnership... and we may be looking to score from set-pieces in which case Holmes would be important.

[Alan Main FanClub]

Suppose we better start thinking about this game now. Nothing to lose , money to be made and huns to kick.
I hope we can make a game of it and based on the last two matches against them, they'll be more concerned about us than we are about them.
I'm looking forward to a good sing song but strangely I'm not overly excited about the game. Team wise... Hows about...

Main

Irvine, Rusty, Caff, Hanlon

Swanks, Millar, Moon, Morris, Craig

Savo

Subs. McLean,Hardie,Gartland, Sheerin, McDonald.

Rested...Holmes, Jacko, Ando, James, Samuel.

I could see that happening tbh.

[saintee4life]

cannae see sheerin startin but definetly comin off the bench wi 25mins tae go if we're losin

[mainstand]

Suppose we better start thinking about this game now. Nothing to lose , money to be made and huns to kick.
I hope we can make a game of it and based on the last two matches against them, they'll be more concerned about us than we are about them.
I'm looking forward to a good sing song but strangely I'm not overly excited about the game. Team wise... Hows about...

Main

Irvine, Rusty, Caff, Hanlon

Swanks, Millar, Moon, Morris, Craig

Savo

Subs. McLean,Hardie,Gartland, Sheerin, McDonald.

Rested...Holmes, Jacko, Ando, James, Samuel.


I think going 5 accross the midfield would be a mistake, playing 1 up against a 3 at teh back is okay but if they are playing a 4 at the back, which they normally do, then you are giving their wide men freedom to come up and support teh midfield.

This is one of these games where Holmes could cause their defence a fair bit of problems, not the best team in the air play 2 up.

[O'Rourke]

I think the rest will benefit Martin Hardie and think he should start.

[perth_saintee12]

I am really excited about this game, would love to see us have a good cup run again, the team i would like to see...

Main (Legend!)

Irvine Ruti Caff Hanlon

Swank Morris Miller Craig

Savo Holmes

Subs: McLean, Hardie, Mooner, Jacko, Sheerin.

If we are at our best we can beat Rangers, yes the huns will need to have a bad game but as we have proved we can beat rangers and take them to the wire.

MON THE SAINTS !!!!!

[saintj]

why should change our formation for the likes of them, we were hardly over run at hampden and the current rangers team is hardly a prospect to worry about

i think we should go out to play and beat them, so long as we play to a good standard and keep it tight and sensible we have a decent chance of doing something

with the league fast becoming a fading dream there will be even more pressure on the rangers, they have much more to lose than us and if we can get in about them and not let them play i think we will see the pressure take effect on rangers the longer the match goes on if they cant grab the lead

same team that played clyde off the park for me and lets hope we have that little bit more on the night to win the game and make it 3 unbeaten against them in a row

[the blue barron]

Of course Gartland will start, anyone who thinks otherwise is having a laugh.The time for signing squad players is past,any signings at this stage of the season are to strengthen the team.

Anyway Caff already lost his place to Ando.

Main
Irvine Ruti Gartland Hanlon
Millar Morris Hardie Craig
Milne Holmes

[Southpaw]

Of course Gartland will start, anyone who thinks otherwise is having a laugh.The time for signing squad players is past,any signings at this stage of the season are to strengthen the team.

Anyway Caff already lost his place to Ando.

Main
Irvine Ruti Gartland Hanlon
Millar Morris Hardie Craig
Milne Holmes

aye, suspension is a bugger that way.

Can't see Gartland getting his first start in this game. I'd be happy with Caff and Rusty.

[bankfootsaintee]

I'd love to see...

Main
Irvine Rusti Garters Hanlon
Samuel Moon Sheerin Craig
Savo Holmes

Just to show an attacking team with strength and pace, because I don't feel Rangers would be able to cope with Craig and Samuels pace and skill on the ball aswell as having the presence of Savo and Holmes upfront. I would have Garters at Center half due to experience and he looks more of a physical player than caff. My reason for moon and sheerin in the middle is because they are both comfortable on the ball and I believe they would relish the chance.

But I find it extremely unlikely for this team to be chosen and Ghostie's looks more of the Gaffers cup of tea.

[StDuncM]

Gartland will be itching to start and the gaffer has nowt to lose by playing him.

Morris is another definite starter.

[Pablo]

I hope we win, I really do - revenge for them beating us last year. That said, a defeat won't be the end of the world; more a blessing in disguise in that it'll make sure we concentrate on the league.

Will be good to have Caff back, and I'd start him in front of Gartland. Hanlon at left back, and Liam wide left instead of up the middle:

Main

Irvine Ruti Caff Hanlon

Swankie Morris Millar Craig

Savo Jacko

Subs: McLean, Hardie, Mooner, Holmes, Sheerin.

[Perth-Saint]

Main

Irvine Ruti Caff Hanlon

Swankie Morris Millar Craig

Savo Holmes

Subs: McLean, Gartland, Sheerin, Samuel, MacDonald

MON SAINTS!!!

[O'Rourke]

Main
Irvine, Dinky, Caff and Hanlon
Millar, Morris, Hardie and Craig
Savo and Homer

McLean, Ando, Swankie, Sheerin and Samuel

As I said earlier, I can't imagine Del not starting with Hardie.

Plenty time to see what Gartland's made of later in the season....

[sjfc_camo]

i dont see why everyone's saying it will be caff out it could be rusty?
as hes a similar type of player to rusty?

[Steve Maskrey]

Hopefully we'll get clearance to play Hanlon against Rangers. If not, I reckon Del will go with Gartland at lb.

Main

Irvine Ruti Caff Hanlon/Gartland
Samuel Morris Hardie Craig
Savo Holmes

Subs: McLean, Ando, Gartland, Sheerin, Jackson/Peaso

I doubt Del will make too many changes from the Clyde game. It's all going to depend on who plays left back and the fitness of Sammy and Hardie

[herdo]

I'd love to see...

Main
Irvine Rusti Garters Hanlon
Samuel Moon Sheerin Craig
Savo Holmes

Just to show an attacking team with strength and pace.

A team with strength? Then you leave out both Hardie and Morris for a defensively inept Paul Sheerin? You must be on the wind up. Plus you want to break up a STRONG partnership at the back to give a debut to a guy you have never seen playing against a much bigger team than ourselves???

[Calypso Kid]

Sheerin has to play for me. We're going to need to keep the football as much as possible and need someone to pick out a gem of a pass to make opportunities. Can you think of anyone more liable to do that than Sheerin?

[lang toon saintie]

I would play craig left centre midfield with morris,Miller is too light to play there and
Hardie is having a stinker at the moment.Sheerin must play as he gives us that extra
bit of class needed against an SPL side.

[saintj]

i think we will need craigs drive and strength in the centre, i thought he was the difference against clyde along with having a left back

[sjfc.spl.09-10]

Main
Irvine Rusti Garters Hanlon
Samuel Morris Hardie Craig
Holmes
Savo

Subs..Mclean Caff Jackson Sheerin Millar


St. Johnstone 2-0 Rangers :) :) :) :) :)

[bankfootsaintee]

A team with strength? Then you leave out both Hardie and Morris for a defensively inept Paul Sheerin? You must be on the wind up. Plus you want to break up a STRONG partnership at the back to give a debut to a guy you have never seen playing against a much bigger team than ourselves???

Thanks for your comments, however I have seen Gartland play :)

[sjfc.spl.09-10]

Any Good/New Songs For The Game :)

[Shaggy Jenkins]

Has to be a 4-5-1 for me

Main
Irvine Rusti Caff Hanlon
Morris Craig Sheerin
Millar Swankie
Savo

[Shibbydoo]

Has to be a 4-5-1 for me

Main
Irvine Rusti Caff Hanlon
Morris Craig Sheerin
Millar Swankie
Savo

I like the look of that.

[Alan Main FanClub]

Mooner and Sheerin must play as we need to keep the ball, Morris must play too. I am not sure whether Hanlon will be allowed to play, as if Murray gets injured and Hanlon needs called back, they'll not want him cup-tied. Therefore I am changing my line up to;

Main
Irvine Caff Rusty Craig
Swankie Millar Morris Moon Sheerin
Milne/Holmes

McLean, Gartland, Peaso, Milne/Holmes, Hardie

As much as it pains me to include Hardie in my 16, if we are winning it might help to bring on a big guy to win the aerial battles. Not fussed who play between Holmes and Savo because they'd both be effective. Gartland has not had much experience at left-back but Craig's played a half season there and would have a better partnership with Sheerin.

Saints 1-0 Rangers

[Radford 72]

As much as it pains me to include Hardie in my 16...
What is your craic? Every single post seems to take a dig at Hardie.

Regards team selection, remember we need two under 21s (outfield) in the XVI. Not sure what the cut off date is but Jackson and Hanlon (if eligible) should fit the criteria. If Hanlon isn't allowed to play, not sure who he'll use.

[O'Rourke]

What is your craic? Every single post seems to take a dig at Hardie.

Excuse me! There are still a few who don't believe he's all washed up.

I think he must start against Rangers.

[Macarius]

What is your craic? Every single post seems to take a dig at Hardie.

Regards team selection, remember we need two under 21s (outfield) in the XVI. Not sure what the cut off date is but Jackson and Hanlon (if eligible) should fit the criteria. If Hanlon isn't allowed to play, not sure who he'll use.

If Hanlon can't play, surely wee Stephen Reynolds should get a subby appearance.

[Alan Main FanClub]

What is your craic? Every single post seems to take a dig at Hardie.

Regards team selection, remember we need two under 21s (outfield) in the XVI. Not sure what the cut off date is but Jackson and Hanlon (if eligible) should fit the criteria. If Hanlon isn't allowed to play, not sure who he'll use.

I don't feel he's good enough, I've never been his biggest fan, but now he should definitely no longer be a regular. Why do players get a game based on what they did in the PAST? Okay, he's been a good servant, but doesn't mean that because of that he should be playing when all season he's been pish. Only thing he's done is score that free-kick at Dunfermline, and he's not as committed in his tackles anymore.

[Macarius]

Have to reply.

I only started going to Saints games at the start of 2008 and I have to say I've never been impressed with Hardie.

[Radford 72]

I don't feel he's good enough, I've never been his biggest fan, but now he should definitely no longer be a regular. Why do players get a game based on what they did in the PAST? Okay, he's been a good servant, but doesn't mean that because of that he should be playing when all season he's been pish. Only thing he's done is score that free-kick at Dunfermline, and he's not as committed in his tackles anymore.
I didn't really want to hear (again) what your specific beef is with him, more why you feel the need to bring it up in nearly every post. Far be it from me to speak for everyone else but I don't think anyone could fail to be aware that you don't rate him, I just don't see why it needs mentioned all the time and yes that is, in part, because of what he's done in the past. He deserves a bit more respect that you are giving him.

Not sure who will play if Hanlon doesn't (or indeed Jackson is too old). Doris will be the obvious choice if he's here, after that it probably would be Reynolds I guess.

[101 Saint]

Hopefully we'll get clearance to play Hanlon against Rangers. If not, I reckon Del will go with Gartland at lb.

You were present for Meet the Manager; he could't have been any clearer that:
a) Gartland is not here to play left-back - he stated this before Gartland entered the room, whilst he was in the room and after he had left the room
b) Del claimed he has options for a left-back if Hanlon is a goner

Why do you doubt Del?

As much as it pains me to include Hardie in my 16, if we are winning it might help to bring on a big guy to win the aerial battles.

The same Hardie who bottles and can win aerial battles anymore:roll:

If Hanlon can't play, surely wee Stephen Reynolds should get a subby appearance. Have you actually seen the guy play? He cannae get a start for the reserves, if he's on the bench it makes a mockery of the rules and the game.

This board is something else. Hardie, the cornerstone of our league challenge, hero of our cup win and all round good guy, might get on the bench out of sheer desperation, but Reynolds is well good man:?

[Alan Main FanClub]

You were present for Meet the Manager; he could't have been any clearer that:
a) Gartland is not here to play left-back - he stated this before Gartland entered the room, whilst he was in the room and after he had left the room
b) Del claimed he has options for a left-back if Hanlon is a goner

Why do you doubt Del?



The same Hardie who bottles and can win aerial battles anymore:roll:

Have you actually seen the guy play? He cannae get a start for the reserves, if he's on the bench it makes a mockery of the rules and the game.

This board is something else. Hardie, the cornerstone of our league challenge, hero of our cup win and all round good guy, might get on the bench out of sheer desperation, but Reynolds is well good man:?

I never said he was rubbish in the air? i said he wasnt comitted in tackles, read the post properly, he is still a good aerial threat but doesn't go for the tackles he used to.

[Alan Main FanClub]

I didn't really want to hear (again) what your specific beef is with him, more why you feel the need to bring it up in nearly every post. Far be it from me to speak for everyone else but I don't think anyone could fail to be aware that you don't rate him, I just don't see why it needs mentioned all the time and yes that is, in part, because of what he's done in the past. He deserves a bit more respect that you are giving him.

Not sure who will play if Hanlon doesn't (or indeed Jackson is too old). Doris will be the obvious choice if he's here, after that it probably would be Reynolds I guess.

It's my opinion which a lot of Saints fans share? I hear it all the time at games, "Hardie was pish again" "Hardie's past it".... Just cause you don't agree don't go in the huff.

[Ali91]

It's my opinion which a lot of Saints fans share? I hear it all the time at games, "Hardie was pish again" "Hardie's past it".... Just cause you don't agree don't go in the huff.

The thing is though, regardless of his form just now, he has done more than enough for the club in the past to be due some respect, something that you show him none of what so ever.

[Alan Main FanClub]

The thing is though, regardless of his form just now, he has done more than enough for the club in the past to be due some respect, something that you show him none of what so ever.

I recognize what he's done? I've never said he hasn't been a good servant? He has, but he isn't anymore. I've never rated him all that much, but he has served us in the PAST. But he's finished and tam selection shouldn't be viewed on what he's done before, but by what he's doing now.

[101 Saint]

I never said he was rubbish in the air? i said he wasnt comitted in tackles, read the post properly, he is still a good aerial threat but doesn't go for the tackles he used to.

What if a nasty Rangers player challenges him in the air:?:

Ali91 is spot on, the boy is struggling now, but we're a team. He's not like Lawrie or Stewart who were gash at all times, this is a veritable hero going through a horrific, public struggle against injury and form. He deserves our whole-hearted support. That's not to say we can't critcise him for a performance, but don't denigrate the fella at every opportunity. His contribution to this club will be remembered for years; memories including the freekick at Ginger Baker's EEP Rally.

[Broon]

Hardie IS a class act but he IS going through a bad spell. People need to be able to distinguish between being garbage and playing garbage.

[monkfish]

...this is a veritable hero going through a horrific, public struggle against injury and form. He deserves our whole-hearted support.

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[CynicalSaintee]

I think we should go for it and attack them. 4-4-2, none of this Rangers-esque 'Anti-Football' shenanigans with 4-5-1.

Main
Irvine - Caff - Rusty - Hanlon
Swanks - Mad Mental/Millar - Morris - Craig
Sherlock - Savo

Bench; Garters, Sheerin, Mad Mental/Millar, Samuel, McLean
Coooome ooooooon you Saaaaaiiints!

[herdo]

I think we should go for it and attack them. 4-4-2, none of this Rangers-esque 'Anti-Football' shenanigans with 4-5-1.

Main
Irvine - Caff - Rusty - Hanlon
Swanks - Mad Mental - Morris - Craig
Sherlock - Savo

Bench; Garters, Sheerin, Mad Mental, Samuel, McLean
Coooome ooooooon you Saaaaaiiints!

I know he's mad and mental martin but he's not magic, he cant start and also be on the bench. :D

[CynicalSaintee]

I know he's mad and mental martin but he's not magic, he cant start and also be on the bench. :D

I meant to put Millar/MMM dependent on fitness.

Curse these lineup suggestion threads! I swear they're jinxing me...

[Southpaw]

Assuming Radford's correct :wink: and we do have to have 2 Under 21's in the 16 then some of the teams mentioned just can't happen. This could be even worse if Hibs don't want Hanlon cup tied and Jacko is too old (21 on Jan 9th!). Unfortunately, we might not know about Hanlon until Hibs play their game.

I don't know which way we'll go with this game. 4-4-2 suits us with Savo and Holmes but I like some of the 4-5-1 teams which have already been posted. There are so many ifs and buts about who'll be available, so picking a team is difficult but assuming we have the players available I'll go for...

Main
Irvine, Caff, Rusty, Hanlon
Swankie, Millar, Morris, Craig, Sheerin
Holmes

Our options are good, here's hoping Del gets it right.

[sjfcsean]

Main
Irvine, Caff, Rusty, Hanlon
Swankie, Millar, Morris, Craig, Sheerin
Holmes



That's an alright team but i would imagine Savo or Sammy will be upfront alone because lone strikers need a bit of pace and have to run alot.

[SaintSam1884]

Yeah, a target man such as Holmes would be hopeless in the lone striker role. We'd be as well going with a sixth midfielder and forgetting the strikers entirely for all the good he'd do. Perhaps Southpaw had the idea to lump crosses onto Holmers head for seventy odd minutes but the quality of the crosses would need to be precise.

As for the Martin Hardie debate. I think it goes without saying that he's going to play. It's a big game and I don't think a player like Swankie would ever step up to that for us. As good a player as he is, he is a bit of a luxury and doesn't provide any graft. Hardie also has a bit of form for roughing them up a bit, which they don't seem to enjoy all that much.

[Southpaw]

That's an alright team but i would imagine Savo or Sammy will be upfront alone because lone strikers need a bit of pace and have to run alot.

Yeah, it's a tricky one. Wouldn't go for Sammy as he will lose heart when he's starved of the ball and Savo's pace might be useful later in the game. Only played Holmes because we lack height in midfield/up front.

Basically...who the hell knows!! :laugh:

[CynicalSaintee]

Yeah, a target man such as Holmes would be hopeless in the lone striker role. We'd be as well going with a sixth midfielder and forgetting the strikers entirely for all the good he'd do. Perhaps Southpaw had the idea to lump crosses onto Holmers head for seventy odd minutes but the quality of the crosses would need to be precise.

As for the Martin Hardie debate. I think it goes without saying that he's going to play. It's a big game and I don't think a player like Swankie would ever step up to that for us. As good a player as he is, he is a bit of a luxury and doesn't provide any graft. Hardie also has a bit of form for roughing them up a bit, which they don't seem to enjoy all that much.

Speaking of which, Naismith is just getting back from injury, now. :laugh:

How hilarious that would be, just as he gets fit, playing Rangers' bogey cup team he gets crippled by the same guy who injured him for the 8 months-odd the last time they met. :laugh:

[SaintSam1884]

Speaking of which, Naismith is just getting back from injury, now. :laugh:

How hilarious that would be, just as he gets fit, playing Rangers' bogey cup team he gets crippled by the same guy who injured him for the 8 months-odd the last time they met. :laugh:

Hardie has to play. Moon and Jody can both get a little rough sometimes but they're both too small to provide the sort of body checks we have come to expect from Hardie.

[perth_saintee12]

Speaking of which, Naismith is just getting back from injury, now. :laugh:

How hilarious that would be, just as he gets fit, playing Rangers' bogey cup team he gets crippled by the same guy who injured him for the 8 months-odd the last time they met. :laugh:

Oh ho thats the stuff dreams are made of..

After the game MMM could give the rangers team 1 bar of soap as an apology, they need it more than we do.

[saintj]

ok 1st of all im not having a dig but why should hardie be in the starting 11 considering his form is poor and he is carrying an injury, why should we risk the team and potentially the game, and why risk the player himself considering its a back injury?

[angussaint]

Main
Irvine - Caff - Rusty - Hanlon
Swanks - Mad Mental/Millar - Morris - Craig
Sherlock - Savo.

Got to play Sherlock as the the blue Glasgow are pish at corners & with his height he Will! cause them problems.

[Radford 72]

Assuming Radford's correct :wink: and we do have to have 2 Under 21's in the 16 then some of the teams mentioned just can't happen.
Having spoken to someone that knows this sort of stuff, the cut off date is January 1st 1987, as they have to be under 21 at the start of the year in which the competition starts (i.e. 2008).

That being the case, Moon and Jackson both fit the criteria. Only reason I remember the rule is St Mirren nearly getting thrown out in the season they won the First Division for not having two U21s on the bench.

[Steve Maskrey]

I think Hardie will start. Form goes completely out of the window in these games and I think Hardie's physical presence is essential to win the midfield battle. I reckon we'll see a similar performance from him as we did against Dunfermline.

Watching the game today, Rangers look nothing special. Holmes and Savo will cause them problems. Quick attacks could be our key

[101 Saint]

Holmes and Savo will cause them problems. Quick attacks could be our key

Homer is quick attack slur:laugh:

[saintj]

Homer is quick attack slur:laugh:

for a robot :)

[saintee4life]

Sheerin has to play for me. We're going to need to keep the football as much as possible and need someone to pick out a gem of a pass to make opportunities. Can you think of anyone more liable to do that than Sheerin?jody morris:wink:

[Calypso Kid]

jody morris:wink:

If you call a 10-yard square ball a gem of a pass then i'll give you it.

[saintee4life]

I think Hardie will start. Form goes completely out of the window in these games and I think Hardie's physical presence is essential to win the midfield battle. I reckon we'll see a similar performance from him as we did against Dunfermline.

Watching the game today, Rangers look nothing special. Holmes and Savo will cause them problems. Quick attacks could be our keyTell me who in the gers midfield is physical? mendes? ferguson? davis? If morris,moon, millar,craig etc cant handle these guys they dont deserve a game. WE DONT NEED HARDIE

[saintee4life]

If you call a 10-yard square ball a gem of a pass then i'll give you it.AND THATS FOR 90MINS IS IT? OPEN YOUR EYES:shock:

[Calypso Kid]

AND THATS FOR 90MINS IS IT? OPEN YOUR EYES:shock:

Awright love, keep your knickers on. Jody will knock balls about all day and switch the play to his hearts content but when it comes to the killer ball I would plump for the Wizard every time.

[+Super Trooper+]

Awright love, keep your knickers on. Jody will knock balls about all day and switch the play to his hearts content but when it comes to the killer ball I would plump for the Wizard every time.

Agreed. For the killer ball i'd go for sheerin.

[Kevin]

This was in the P&J this morning
ST JOHNSTONE manager Derek McInnes has injury worries ahead of the Scottish Cup match against Rangers on January 13.
Midfielder Martin Hardie and leading scorer Stevie Milne are both struggling – as are attacker Peter MacDonald and midfielder Kevin Moon.
McInnes said: “Stevie is nursing a thigh injury and we’ll see how he responds to treatment.
“Martin is our biggest worry. He has been resting for the last two weeks to shake off a back and pelvis problem. But now we have found a tear in his hamstring. The estimate is a seven to 10-day recovery period so he is doubtful.”
McInnes will keep St Johnstone in action with a closed-doors game against Dundee United today.
He said: “We tried to get the game with Ross County re-arranged for this week, but they wanted it clear to prepare for their own cup game.”
McInnes will seek permission from Hibernian to field loan signing Paul Hanlon against Rangers.

[Macarius]

Closed door against Dundee United you say?

This could be interesting.

[Macarius]

Is the closed game against United today (6th) or tomorrow (7th).

Your post makes me think today Kev but according to temple of the saints, its on tomorrow.

[Finners]

im really not comforted by the fact that mooner and savo might not make it - thats a massive blow if they dont come through in time.

[mainstand]

Is the closed game against United today (6th) or tomorrow (7th).

Your post makes me think today Kev but according to temple of the saints, its on tomorrow.

The tele says Wednesday. Given that United are playing on astro on Saturday I wonder if this will be game on the astro at McD.

[dave mc]

Radio Tay mentioned it was off due to the weather!

[Steve Maskrey]

Rangers look like they're about to sell Boyd to Birmingham. They reckon the deal will be completed by the end of the week. Is Boyd terrified of going up against Ruti & co?

[1884]

Rangers look like they're about to sell Boyd to Birmingham. They reckon the deal will be completed by the end of the week. Is Boyd terrified of going up against Ruti & co?

To be fair, he never scores against big teams anyway...:laugh:

[slf]

why are clyde at home a bigger draw for home fans than the huns ?

[slf]

ps dinnae even try to say we are huns without tickets for hunbrox ,dinnae even go there.

[541ntees]

normally i agree with ghostie's teams but not this time-we have nothing to fear from the huns so no need to change our formation for them!
Hope our injuries aren't too bad esp Savo.
No place for Swankie - i like him but too much of a luxury player in a game where we need grafters.

Main
Irvine Ruti Caff Hanlon(if Hibs allow)
Millar Morris Sheerin Craig
Savo Homer

subs-McLean Ando(i like him right!) Mooner Sammy Jacko

[Broon]

No place for Swankie - i like him but too much of a luxury player in a game where we need grafters.


I think it's a myth that Swankie doesn't work hard. He's a fairly big lad and holds onto the ball quite well. He's certainly more physical than Miller, albeit less industrious. I would argue that to defeat Rangers you need your best and most skillful players. Hard graft wont defeat a good team, you need that bit of skill too.

I would play swankie and get some good balls into the box. Nobody needs motivation to get stuck into Rangers.

[SaintSam1884]

I think it's a myth that Swankie doesn't work hard. He's a fairly big lad and holds onto the ball quite well. He's certainly more physical than Miller, albeit less industrious. I would argue that to defeat Rangers you need your best and most skillful players. Hard graft wont defeat a good team, you need that bit of skill too.

I would play swankie and get some good balls into the box. Nobody needs motivation to get stuck into Rangers.

I appreciate your points but I don't agree that Swankie is more physical than Millar. I think Swankie is one of our least physical players, who will back out of challenges he has a reasonable chance of winning. I also don't think he has much ability to tackle - not really a ball winner. His strengths lie very much in attack whereas Millar can do a bit of both.

As for the game against Rangers, midfield is probably going to pose McInnes a few headaches. If we get permission from Hibs to field Hanlon, the left of midfield is a dead cert with Craig in there and one of the two places up for grabs in the middle will go to Morris. The other one I believe will go to Hardie if he can get himself fit enough in time. However, right midfield poses a bit of a problem. I think Millar is a more rounded player than Swankie, and has a better playing relationship with Irvine but Millar always look better through the middle.

[ancientsaint]

Rangers look like they're about to sell Boyd to Birmingham. They reckon the deal will be completed by the end of the week. Is Boyd terrified of going up against Ruti & co?

Would rather have "faced" Boyd than Novo.......

[sjfc_camo]

Novo could be off to deportivo lacoruna? do know how u spell it haha
I'm terrified for going againist miller who has speed in our defence?
and its more than likely if boyd goes kyle lafferty will be up front?

[perth_saintee12]

Herd from my other half who is a *** (sadly) that all the rangers tickets have been sold.

[Baldy Marc]

Herd from my other half who is a *** (sadly) that all the rangers tickets have been sold.

So why is she your 'other half' ?!?!?!?!?!? :wink:

[perth_saintee12]

hhmm...good question :laugh:

[SaintSam1884]

Novo could be off to deportivo lacoruna? do know how u spell it haha
I'm terrified for going againist miller who has speed in our defence?
and its more than likely if boyd goes kyle lafferty will be up front?

I don't think we have slow defenders anymore!

[saintj]

millar hasnt had anywhere near a good game on the right wing for us, swankie tracks back alot and on some games does put in a tackle, this game he would relish, taking on papac presumably would be a great oppurtunity for him and especially on telly to show his value

if we are going to win we will need our best and most fluent team

[Radford 72]

... its more than likely if boyd goes kyle lafferty will be up front?
Lafferty picked up a knee injury in a match against Morton today. They aren't sure how serious it is but he seemingly has no chance of playing on Tuesday. Miller also collected a hamstring strain against ICT so is doubtful. If Novo and Boyd do leave, that would mean Velicka and Naismith up front unless they manage to bring in someone like David Healy at short notice.

On the Swankie arguement, one of his best games for Dundee last season was against Celtic in the CIS Cup and he was also excellent at Motherwell in the Scottish Cup. Big game player, so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him start.

[sjfc.spl.09-10]

Lafferty picked up a knee injury in a match against Morton today. They aren't sure how serious it is but he seemingly has no chance of playing on Tuesday. Miller also collected a hamstring strain against ICT so is doubtful. If Novo and Boyd do leave, that would mean Velicka and Naismith up front unless they manage to bring in someone like David Healy at short notice.

On the Swankie arguement, one of his best games for Dundee last season was against Celtic in the CIS Cup and he was also excellent at Motherwell in the Scottish Cup. Big game player, so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him start.

How what is happening on tuesday?

[101 Saint]

On the Swankie arguement, one of his best games for Dundee last season was against Celtic in the CIS Cup and he was also excellent at Motherwell in the Scottish Cup. Big game player, so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him start.
Not sure that Del will pick him, he might show some loyalty to Midgie. I fully agree that if he starts, he play a blinder!

[THE LARK SAINT]

saints were training at bells this morning, although a few not risked on the hard surface, a fairly low key fun session by the looks of it. sounds like most will make tuesday though apart from mmm.

[mainstand]

saints were training at bells this morning, although a few not risked on the hard surface, a fairly low key fun session by the looks of it. sounds like most will make tuesday though apart from mmm.

Was there not quite a few missing?

I was up at the ground when they were leaving and there didn't seem to be that many.

[st Tommy]

3000 tickets sold to saints fans according to the official web site.
Lets make some noise!!

[perth_saintee12]

3000 tickets sold to saints fans according to the official web site.
Lets make some noise!!

Mon guys as i said earlier rangers have sold all of their allocated tickets we DONT wanna be out numbered by the soap dodging weegies fae govan!!

[Finners]

we will be though, how can we expect to sell more tickets than rangers when theres more rangers fans in perth than saints fans. We can outsing them though - thats all that matters.

[ancientsaint]

we will be though, how can we expect to sell more tickets than rangers when theres more rangers fans in perth than saints fans. We can outsing them though - thats all that matters.


I dont care if their fans outnumber us

I dont care if they singer louder than us.......as long as we -

Outplay them and outscore them

[perth_saintee12]

I dont care if their fans outnumber us

I dont care if they singer louder than us.......as long as we -

Outplay them and outscore them

On that note, couldnt of said it any better

[Rodgers]

I dont care if their fans outnumber us

I dont care if they singer louder than us.......as long as we -

Outplay them and outscore them

yeah but it would be good if we could out sing them

[saintj]

excluding the qots game when was the last time the team got some great vocal backing?

[Mike180279]

we will be though, how can we expect to sell more tickets than rangers when theres more rangers fans in perth than saints fans. We can outsing them though - thats all that matters.We sure as heck did it at Hampden, thats for sure!

[Dev]

For anyone who wishes to take a happy walk down Memory Lane, try this thread...

http://www.weareperth.co.uk/vforum/showthread.php?t=2303

[mainstand]

Mon guys as i said earlier rangers have sold all of their allocated tickets we DONT wanna be out numbered by the soap dodging weegies fae govan!!

Rangers will have sold their allocation because:

a. They have 40k season ticket holders

b. The season ticket holders mainly buy their tickets at the start of teh season by signing a blank cheque for the away ties,

[Kevin]

Oh bollocks, we have got Dougie McDonald in the middle on Tuesday night :evil: Or so it says on the SFA website

[Dennistoun Saint]

Oh bollocks, we have got Dougie McDonald in the middle on Tuesday night :evil: Or so it says on the SFA website

Is he not the decent one that did both the St.Mirren games last season? I've always thought he's a lot better than some of the hopeless cases we get in the First Division. Our referees are a joke compared to English Premier ones though.
Who do we go with up front against Rangers? I'm not sure Holmes can have much effect. Pity Jackson's been out of sorts. I'd have been inclined to go with him.

[Mike180279]

Is he not the decent one that did both the St.Mirren games last season? I've always thought he's a lot better than some of the hopeless cases we get in the First Division. Our referees are a joke compared to English Premier ones though.
Who do we go with up front against Rangers? I'm not sure Holmes can have much effect. Pity Jackson's been out of sorts. I'd have been inclined to go with him.
Sammy (or Jacko) and Savo. Playing Homer plays into gers hands. Need pace to run at old guys at the back...

[Kevin]

Is he not the decent one that did both the St.Mirren games last season? I've always thought he's a lot better than some of the hopeless cases we get in the First Division. Our referees are a joke compared to English Premier ones though.
Who do we go with up front against Rangers? I'm not sure Holmes can have much effect. Pity Jackson's been out of sorts. I'd have been inclined to go with him.

Nope, he was the guy who 'gave' Rangers THAT penalty in extra time in the semi0-final last season!!!

[Dev]

Nope, he was the guy who 'gave' Rangers THAT penalty in extra time in the semi0-final last season!!!

He made a correct decision then, however disappointing it was.

[sjfc.spl.09-10]

He made a correct decision then, however disappointing it was.

it was soft, but it was the correct decision!? :(

[Dennistoun Saint]

He made a correct decision then, however disappointing it was.

Exactly. Let's not turn into whinging Sellik fans and moan about the ref before a ball has been kicked.

[saintj]

Exactly. Let's not turn into whinging Sellik fans and moan about the ref before a ball has been kicked.

the ref was obviously a rangers fan :)

[CynicalSaintee]

He was a bit daft in some senses, though. I mean, Christian Dailly should have been sent off before half time, and how he didn't notice Hardie intentionally stamping Burke's knee (although no complaints from me) is beyond me.

I also find it hilarious that Burke is leaving just before the fixture in which he got the injury taht wrecked his first-team selection hopes at Rangers. Methinks he's dodging a certain Rustybitz!

[saintee4life]

have they selt aw their tickets defo? I spoke to my mate fae the kings park loyal on wednesday an he said theyr goin slowly

[CynicalSaintee]

Rangers have sold 4,500. Which I think is basically their entire allocation. Now it's up to us to outsell (and outsing) them again. The atmosphere at Hampden was electric, I could even pick it 'up through the Telly! Especially after we scored, and we got a chant of Yellow Army going.

Good times.. shame we did so poorly in the league last season.

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Is it not time for this game yet???????? Christ it feels like months since we played a bloody game. I am in desperate need of a football fix and frankly by Tuesday I'm likely to be foaming at the mooth..I was looking through my programme collection earlier ( I know, sad git ) and noticed on one from 1971, which is the oldest one I have, that we played Dundee Utd on the 1st of January and then Aberdeen on the 2nd ( that's the game the programmes from). Two games in two days. How good is that. Players these days don't know how good they have it.The results from four games in December make interesting reading. Clyde (A) lost 3-0.Huns (H) we won Yesssssssss 2-1.Morton(A) we lost 3-1 and Hearts at Muirton we won 2-1. I hope that Huns result is a sign:wink:

Team that day was..Donaldson, Lambie, Argue, Rooney, Gordon, Rennie, Aird, Hall, Connolly, McPhee, Aitken. The Dons side included the youngest captain in scottish football, 21 year old Martin Buchan, also on show were Joe Harper Scotlands top scorer at that point with 23 goals to his credit and in goals Bobby Clark. I don't suppose anyone knows how it turned out??? Aberdeen were top of the league with 32 points from 18 matches ( two points only for a win some going) and they had not conceded a goal since they beat The Midden 3-1 on 24th October. Sellik were a point behind with the Huns in 3rd. Saints were in 4th with 22 points out of a possible 36, a point ahead of Scumdee.

It also says that saints invested the considerable amount of £200 in an ultrasonic deep heat machine. Cutting edge technology....

The programme cost sixpence and among the advertisers were Murrays the Baker, Helene ( specialists in teenage wear so it says) The St. Albans Hotel Dundee road, Frenz the Butchers ( I remember them), Ward Brothers Bookmakers, Ace Taxis, McIntyres Bakery, The Central Billiard Room 18 North Methven Street, John Bennie Drapers and The South Sea Carry out at 40 North Methven Street ( still there) .

[dave mc]

If it was away we could have lost 4-2 i think,i was at Pittodrie in early 70's on a Barossa St bus,well remember my dad overtaking 7 cars on the baiglie straight 'cause we were late!If it was at Muirton and the same day as the Ibrox disaster then we lost 1-0,Jim Forrest scoring the only goal in the second half.21,000 at it if it was this game!!Some riot at half time between the choirs!

Just googled Ibrox,and sadly it was that day,so we lost 1-0,pretty sure we finished above the Huns in 3rd that season!

[Perth-Saint]

By tomorrow this will be TWO saturdays without a game to go to!! roll on tuesday!!

[Finners]

Although there are reasons not to be overly bothered by this fixture, recession, rubbish weather, cold, no league games etc etc, with a few weeks without a game though im sure everyone will be up for this when tuesday comes around.

Lets just look at this game as an opportunity to get ANOTHER one over one of the Old Firm (not wether it affects our league campaign). Look at all our performances and results vs SPL sides - great record. Rangers have had so much off the ball distractions, whereas Del and docs preperation is brilliant and they will know how to best get at them.

Big-gish crowd, good atmosphere, lets get up for this game!!!!!!

COME ON YOU SAINTS, COME ON YOU SAINTS.....

[meldy 60]

Thanks Ghost for the memories

What a team

[StephanieBarr]

Thanks Ghost for the memories

What a team

Meldy 60 are you fae The Brig ?

[perth_saintee12]

Anyone an update on how many tickets we have sold?

[CynicalSaintee]

With it being a Saturday, I'd've thought we'd've sold a lot of tickets, so I'd hope we would have sold around 3,500 now?

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

With it being a Saturday, I'd've thought we'd've sold a lot of tickets, so I'd hope we would have sold around 3,500 now?

I'm not sure that the ticket office was even OPEN today.I was up at the park and met a guy coming out of the car park who asked me when it was open as he had come up for tickets but it was shut. That was at about 11am.

[CynicalSaintee]

I'm not sure that the ticket office was even OPEN today.I was up at the park and met a guy coming out of the car park who asked me when it was open as he had come up for tickets but it was shut. That was at about 11am.

Blimey, that's a tad disappointing, and a bit foolish if it's true.

[mainstand]

Blimey, that's a tad disappointing, and a bit foolish if it's true.

Surely if folk have vouchers and have had vouchers for some time now why should we need to open the Office on a Saturday, costing staff wages of probably about £100 or so on the off chance that we would sell some tickets that folk have had several weeks to buy and can get by phone or by post as well as in person. It's not like we are trying to capture a passing trade.

As for earlier posts about rangers I reckon you will find that although having sold all their tickets there will be a number of empty spaces in there stands, so lets not get carried away with there so called 4500 fans.

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Surely if folk have vouchers and office on a Sathe ticket have had vouchers for some time now why open Saturday costing staff wages of probably about £100 or so on teh off chance that we would sell some tickets taht folk have had several weeks to buy and can get by phone or by post as well as in person. It's not like we are trying to capture a passing trade.

As for earlier posts about rangers I reckon you will find that although having sold all their tickets there will be a number of empty spaces in there stands, so lets not get carried away with there so called 4500 fans.

What?????:confused:

[mainstand]

What?????:confused:

It was clear enough was it not :-)

[541ntees]

For anyone who wishes to take a happy walk down Memory Lane, try this thread...

http://www.weareperth.co.uk/vforum/showthread.php?t=2303

I'm absolutely buzzing for this game and have been since the draw but for those who for whatever strange reason are feeling apathetic towards the game read this it will do the job!

i wasn't a wap member back then but i was at the match and reading the whole thread again is so weird but got the goose bumps when the savo overhead post came through!

Lets hope for another great mid week humiliation of the huns!

[Chuck Norris]

A friend in Glasgow mailed me saying he'd just heard from Rangers that a small number of extra tickets had become available to them. Not sure if Saints have allocated a few more somehow, or if Rangers made an erse of their ballot...

[CynicalSaintee]

A friend in Glasgow mailed me saying he'd just heard from Rangers that a small number of extra tickets had become available to them. Not sure if Saints have allocated a few more somehow, or if Rangers made an erse of their ballot...

Probably both.

[Lincolnshire no More]

Just wondering now that all their players are available at the right price, will they wear price tags and not squad numbers?

Just a thought!

[williamwonka]

dont know if it has been mentioned before (there are a lot of pages!) but does anyone know for def what time kick off is and if you have sky can you pick up at the bbc1s from around the country?

[a monkey]

dont know if it has been mentioned before (there are a lot of pages!) but does anyone know for def what time kick off is and if you have sky can you pick up at the bbc1s from around the country?


8.05pm.

if you have sky you can get bbc scotland no probs.

not sure of the channel number, but you can defo get it.

[williamwonka]

8.05pm.

if you have sky you can get bbc scotland no probs.

not sure of the channel number, but you can defo get it.

cheers !:laugh:

[rammsteinally]

do you think after they read out the rangers line up kevin could say now who's going to start the bidding

[StDuncM]

8.05pm.

if you have sky you can get bbc scotland no probs.

not sure of the channel number, but you can defo get it.

971 and believe it or not my SKY reception has just gone pear shaped and might not be up and running before Tuesday!:sad:

[ancientsaint]

do you think after they read out the rangers line up kevin could say now who's going to start the bidding


Or if he read out their team lines slowly we could all shout 50p after each name :wink:

[sjfc.spl.09-10]

Does any one have any idea of the rangers team ?

[St. Paddy]

Does any one have any idea of the rangers team ?

Think it will be Tuesday before we see that. How seriously will they take this match? Is it a shop window for the fringe players they are looking to off load?

[sjfc.spl.09-10]

i thought they will play there fringe players, such as Burke......

[ancientsaint]

i thought they will play there fringe players, such as Burke......


gow - steven thompson...........like burke all gone

[sjfc.spl.09-10]

a guy sent me an email about gettin a ticket for the the game as he cant get to the games as he is goes to uni and cant afford to go through to saints game, but he is wondering.

The mods have not accepted him yet,
any help ????

[slf]

a guy sent me an email about gettin a ticket for the the game as he cant get to the games as he is goes to uni and cant afford to go through to saints game, but he is wondering.

The mods have not accepted him yet,
any help ????

smack his coupon tell him to watch it on television if he has one .then tell him to go to the next home game.
so you got a junk ie email i smell ***.

[sjfc.spl.09-10]

:)

[williamwonka]

971 and believe it or not my SKY reception has just gone pear shaped and might not be up and running before Tuesday!:sad:

Get yourself to a pub!!:cool:

[slf]

golden saint isnae a happy chappy

[Tranmere Saintee]

gow - steven thompson...........like burke all gone

I believe Gow has not gone anywhere after failing a medical at Wolves.

[MUZZ]

take it our left back will be staying now after hibs lose???

[Emma]

Would be good if he stays but thinking hibs will win today....

[mainstand]

Would be good if he stays but thinking hibs will win today....

They got beat 2-0!!! 12 o;clock kick off

[Emma]

Oh no was it, great for saints then!

[mainstand]

Oh no was it, great for saints then!

Don't take this the wrong way but are you a blonde by any chance!! :-)

[MUZZ]

Don't take this the wrong way but are you a blonde by any chance!! :-)

you've no chance mate.

[Emma]

No not-that's a simple thing to get wrong :)

[tbaysaint]

Oh no was it, great for saints then!

How is hibs going out of the cup great for saints

[Emma]

We'll prob get to keep Hanlon, he seems good...

[Ali91]

How is hibs going out of the cup great for saints

Because they will be more likely to let us play Hanlon now that he cannot be cup tied for them.

[saintj]

we might get to use hanlon in the cup then against rangers

[tbaysaint]

we might get to use hanlon in the cup then against rangers

oh right thanks

[ancientsaint]

CURRENT ODDS _ William Hills have Saints at 7-1......Draw 7-2 and them 2-7 on

[Macarius]

I've put a 20 quid bet on saints at 9-1. So a 200 quid return if the boys do the business.

Also, the winners of Rangers V St Johnstone will face either Forfar or Forress Mechanics at home. Good stuff.

[ancientsaint]

I believe Gow has not gone anywhere after failing a medical at Wolves.

back to blackpool apparently.

[perth_saintee12]

I've put a 20 quid bet on saints at 9-1. So a 200 quid return if the boys do the business.

Also, the winners of Rangers V St Johnstone will face either Forfar or Forress Mechanics at home. Good stuff.

I will be doing the same as i have the last 2 years when we have played the gers, put 2 quid on us to win!! :D

[The Real Saints]

Now that the day is approaching, my excitement is actually beginning to build! Looking at the draw for the 5th round, it is a great opportunity to reach the quarter-finals. However, first we face the reasonably tricky task of beating Rangers. But most people know that it's not necessarily a good idea to bet against Saints when we play 'superior' opposition. Despite struggling in the league during the past couple of seasons, we have always upped our game in the cups, and produced a few surprising results and fighting performances, so we really should expect no different on Tuesday night. We have the players capable of making an impression on the game - the downside is that Martin Hardie will probably be unavailable due to injury, as he is one of our more physical options. The difference this time is that we are doing very well in the league, but I don't buy the idea of a cup run distracting us from our promotion campaign. There is no reason why we can't do both. Our players are professionals.
Hopefully Hibs losing to Hearts today indicates that Paateleinen may allow us to extend young Paul Hanlon's loan until the end of the season, meaning he can play as left-back on Tuesday. I am not sure whether an 18 year-old might be overawed by the occasion though.
I disagree with those suggesting Holmes should play up front. He is a useful option in the First Division, as his build is a great asset against the more physical teams (although he hardly jumps for the ball unless there are no opposition players around him.) Milne mostly relies on the lay-offs from Derek, but let's face it, we will be up against quality defenders on Saturday, who will most likely be able to deal with Holmes. The supply for Milne could be cut short, and we effectively may well be just as well off without Holmes altogether. We need pace up front to trouble them. We can have him on the bench along with Jackson if things aren't going our way and we need to gamble on a different gameplan. Those suggesting Holmes up front by himself in a 4-5-1 are out of their minds. I couldn't picture a worse candidate for the lone striker position. Apart from that, we should keep things the same. Our defence shouldn't be meddled with, so Gartland must start on the bench.

Main

Irvine Rutkiewicz McCaffrey Hanlon

Swankie Morris Craig Sheerin

Samuel Milne

Subs : McLean, Gartland, Millar, Holmes, Jackson


It will be very tough to get a result, but I don't think our players will need any encouraging. We will be fired up and hoping for another scalp. We are a very tough side to beat, especially at home, and Rangers shouldn't underestimate us. It may be a smaller crowd than expected, but we must get behind the team as I'm sure we will.

Bring it on.

[sjfc.spl.09-10]

I am also very excited for this one, just have a feeling we could do it!

Rangers look like an unsettled team at the moment and we are the form team, No game in two weeks don't know if this is good or bad like.

-----------------Main----------------

Irvine---Rusty---------McCaffrey---Hanlon

Swankie----Morris---Moon-----Craig

-----------Samuel--Savo-------------

Subs...Mclean..Gartland..Millar..Jackson..Sheerin


Come On Saintss!!!

[101 Saint]

I expect:

Main
Irvine-Rusty-Garters-Hanlon
Millar-Morris-Craig-Sheerin
Savo-Holmes

I hope for
Main
Irvine-Ando-Garters-Hanlon
Millar-Morris-Moon-Craig
Savo-Jacko

Working until 2000, gonna be an interesting drive to the park, can't imagine I'll spend too long parking the banger!

[poang]

Fair looking forward to this now, cant believe its come round so quickly, seems just like yesterday that the draw was made.

Im supposed to be working til 8, luckily I banked 15 mins so I can get away a wee bit early. Knowing my luck though Il probably get the most complicated call ever at about 19:44.

Still havent got my tickets yet! Ill have to pop in and get them tommorrow at lunch!

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what the last televised game at McDiarmid park was?

[Alan Main FanClub]

I reckon we'll go;

Main
Irvine Rutkiewicz McCaffrey Hanlon
Millar Morris Craig Swankie
Milne Holmes

McLean Gartland Sheerin Moon Jackson

I think Swankie is the best option to get at that Broadfoot!

C'mon the Saints!

[monkfish]

I expect:

Main
Irvine-Rusty-Garters-Hanlon
Millar-Morris-Craig-Sheerin
Savo-Holmes

I hope for
Main
Irvine-Ando-Garters-Hanlon
Millar-Morris-Moon-Craig
Savo-Jacko


Go on, explain why you'd split up a successful CB pairing, and instead have Ando who's had a handful of games all season and a player who hasn't had a game yet.

[101 Saint]

Go on, explain why you'd split up a successful CB pairing, and instead have Ando who's had a handful of games all season and a player who hasn't had a game yet.

Och, Monkfish it's so boring now. I say that Ando is our best centre-back, everyone disagrees whilst having a wee dig about Mooner or Del! No magic, no fishing, no bull; I reckon Ando is our best right sided centre half and Gartland is, partly by default, our best left sided centre half. So that would by my pairing.

In terms of Del's selection. I believe Gartland was signed to play football, not sit on a bench. Caff lost his place to Ando in our last competitive game. I believe Del will simply slot Garters in for Ando.

[Dev]

Och, Monkfish it's so boring now. I say that Ando is our best centre-back, everyone disagrees whilst having a wee dig about Mooner or Del! No magic, no fishing, no bull; I reckon Ando is our best right sided centre half and Gartland is, partly by default, our best left sided centre half. So that would by my pairing.

What was I saying about nonsensical opinions?

[101 Saint]

What was I saying about nonsensical opinions?

Do expand

[Dev]

Do expand

I'd love you to substantiate this point by sending quotes of my "nonsensical opinions " via pm.

I'm not going to spoil this thread by entering into another futile debate with you but you asked for an example so I've given you one.

[101 Saint]

I'm not going to spoil this thread by entering into another futile debate with you but you asked for an example so I've given you one.

Which part?

I appreciate that you are more intelligent than me, but I do find it unfair that you describe my opinions as "nonsensical" yet fail to engage in a debate. You wrote copiously on why Ruti and Caff should remain as our defensive partnership, yet you still haven't given a prediction as to Gartland's role at our club.

[Broon]

Getting quite excited now.

I would go:

Main
Irvine Caff Rusty Hanlon
Swankie Morris Craig Sheerin
Savo Homer

Bench: McLean, Miller, Jacko, Moon, Gartland.

[monkfish]

I reckon Ando is our best right sided centre half and Gartland is, partly by default, our best left sided centre half. So that would by my pairing.

In terms of Del's selection. I believe Gartland was signed to play football, not sit on a bench. Caff lost his place to Ando in our last competitive game. I believe Del will simply slot Garters in for Ando.

But Caff didn't 'lose his place', he couldn't play because he was suspended. I appreciate your views on Mr Anderson, but I think even you'll be hard pushed to argue he deserves a start when he's hardly played this season. Even if he is as good as you think, he's not going to be match sharp for what's going to be a very testing game.
I can see your point on Gartland, and I think there's a (small) chance he'll start and you can put an argument forward for it, but not Ando.

[101 Saint]

But Caff didn't 'lose his place', he couldn't play because he was suspended. I appreciate your views on Mr Anderson, but I think even you'll be hard pushed to argue he deserves a start when he's hardly played this season. Even if he is as good as you think, he's not going to be match sharp for what's going to be a very testing game.
I can see your point on Gartland, and I think there's a (small) chance he'll start and you can put an argument forward for it, but not Ando.

Ando will not start as right centre back, Rusty will. I didn't mean to suggest that Del would start with him, I intended to state that I would start him. My post wasn't very clear, so apologies for the confusion caused.

[monkfish]

Ando will not start as right centre back, Rusty will. I didn't mean to suggest that Del would start with him, I intended to state that I would start him. My post wasn't very clear, so apologies for the confusion caused.

Aye I ken, I'm sayings your opinon that he should start is baws :razz:

[541ntees]

Ando will not start as right centre back, Rusty will. I didn't mean to suggest that Del would start with him, I intended to state that I would start him. My post wasn't very clear, so apologies for the confusion caused.

i agree Ando is our best CB but i'd never start him on tue. why break up a partnership that's been working so well. it would be unfair if Garters was to get Caff's place too as he has to earn his place. right now Caff has earned it and should keep it for now

[541ntees]

since Rangers FC are looking so financially stable how about a wee chant of "Are u Woolworths in disguise"

[Derek Patterson]

since Rangers FC are looking so financially stable how about a wee chant of "Are u Woolworths in disguise"
Frightfully witty. A lot of the gers fans seem to be pretty much wanting Murray away from the club now. TBH though who else would take responsibility for it.

[ancientsaint]

How on earth can you compare Woolworths and Rangers Fc............Woolworths was a national institution that allowed all walks of life to enter their premises !

[Johnstoun]

How on earth can you compare Woolworths and Rangers Fc............Woolworths was a national institution that allowed all walks of life to enter their premises !

A grossly out of date mentality, sub-standard stock which was bizarrely overpriced, and an inability to penetrate the european market leading to financial meltdown.

[ancientsaint]

A grossly out of date mentality, sub-standard stock which was bizarrely overpriced, and an inability to penetrate the european market leading to financial meltdown.


Couldnt have described Rangers FC better....:roll:

[garydavidson]

how about some chants of "we will beat you four times next season" that could be one to pull out if they are beating us!

[Carse of Gowrie Saint]

We're top of the league and your no !!!

[st Tommy]

your seasons over, why dont you go home?!?!

[garydavidson]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_cups/7823788.stm bbc has craig as being a doubt, im not sure if this is just the usual lacking in standard bbc news though.

[101 Saint]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_cups/7823788.stm bbc has craig as being a doubt, im not sure if this is just the usual lacking in standard bbc news though.
Just good play from Del. Craig is the one that will make the game. Interesting discussion at work today; can anyone see both Swankie and Sammy in the squad?

[541ntees]

http://www.perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/newsitemsdetail.php?param=256

i must have a really bad memory i didn't think it was as bad as 4 nil. i was pretty sure we played quite well that day? was a good day out tho sitting behind the goals with a good view rather sitting at ground level or behind a pillar as we normally do at parkhead

[Paul N Shark]

Hope they give it their all tomorrow night, cmon Saints.....

[garydavidson]

http://www.perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/newsitemsdetail.php?param=256

i must have a really bad memory i didn't think it was as bad as 4 nil. i was pretty sure we played quite well that day? was a good day out tho sitting behind the goals with a good view rather sitting at ground level or behind a pillar as we normally do at parkhead

I was in the main stand at celtic park for that one, remember it being a horrible day because we got stuffed. but dont remember much else about it, certainly not as good a show as the final against them, it was the same season they beat us 7-0!

[TheBigCheese]

Interview with Del here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/7821099.stm).

I picked me up a Freesat box on Saturday so I'm set up to watch the game in my house. :D

I'm not that fussed about the result as the league has to be the priority but I hope we have a real go at them tomorrow. From the limited amount I've seen of them this year Rangers are no great shakes and with what seems half their squad set to move to England now is as good a time as any to play them. As Ronaldo says, have a go Saints!

[101 Saint]

Interview with Del here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/7821099.stm).

Another brilliant interview. He really does us proud whenever he speaks. Doesn't inspire me in the way that OC did, but always sounds realistic and generally a positive character. Excellent ambassador of St Johnstone Football Club.

[Saint O'Leith]

BBC sport now reporting the Boyd/Birmingham deal may be back on. For all the arguments about his worth, I'd still be much happier if he wasn't playing.

[garydavidson]

BBC sport now reporting the Boyd/Birmingham deal may be back on. For all the arguments about his worth, I'd still be much happier if he wasn't playing.

if a ball drops in the box you know he is going to be there, so i would fell much more positive about our chances if he was not playing.

[williamwonka]

looking at the odds for individual players (on willhill) , liam craig is 7-1 to score anytime. Maybe worth thinking the likelyness of saints having a penalty, cant imagine sheerin taking it under the pressure. Also jody is 34-1 to score the first goal.....hmmmmm.

[Steve Maskrey]

Typical ignorance from Jim Spence. He referred twice to the game as if it's being played at Ibrox! If he's on the commentary team, I hope he turns up at Ibrox looking for the game!

[saint5588]

does anyone know if Hibs are allowing Hanlon to play? would be good to be able to have him playing at left back so Craig can play midfield in his natural position

[CynicalSaintee]

Typical ignorance from Jim Spence. He referred twice to the game as if it's being played at Ibrox! If he's on the commentary team, I hope he turns up at Ibrox looking for the game!
Agreed.

Clueless ersehaul.

And blimey, I wouldn't have put that voice to that face on McInnes. He sounds about twenty-five!

And after having thought about it, no matter what happens tomorrow, I'll be pretty happy. If we win, hey, we've ruined Rangers' season, and we've beaten them for the first ever time in the Scottish cup.

A draw, and we've got a five figure sum, at least, from gate income from Rangers and maybe even some more telly money.

A loss, and we'll be able to fully concentrate on the league for the first time in about 3 seasons.

Happy days!

[perth_saintee12]

Placed my bet on saints to win tomorrow night woohoo!!

[CynicalSaintee]

Craig is 7-1 to score? They're not bad odds, actually. That said, Boyd Is probably 1/7.

[Macarius]

Placed my bet on saints to win tomorrow night woohoo!!

Go on perth saintee, tell us the odds and how much you put on so we can revel in your success/failure.

[CynicalSaintee]

Last I checked, our odds were 9-1.

[williamwonka]

Craig is 7-1 to score? They're not bad odds, actually. That said, Boyd Is probably 1/7.



they have indeed changed again!

Player First Last Anytime Hatrick
Collin Samuel 10/1 10/1 7/2 66/1
Steven Milne 12/1 10/1 7/2 66/1
Paul Sheerin 16/1 14/1 11/2 150/1
Andy Jackson 16/1 12/1 5/1 100/1
Derek Holmes 16/1 11/1 4/1 100/1
Peter MacDonald 16/1 16/1 6/1 150/1
Martin Hardie 20/1 20/1 7/1 250/1
Gavin Swankie 20/1 20/1 7/1 250/1
Chris Millar 25/1 20/1 7/1 250/1
Stuart McCaffrey 25/1 25/1 8/1
Liam Craig 25/1 16/1 6/1 150/1
Kevin Moon 25/1 16/1 6/1 150/1
Jody Morris 33/1 25/1 8/1
Kevin James 33/1 33/1 12/1
Kevin Rutkiewicz 33/1 33/1 12/1
Paul Hanlon 40/1 40/1 16/1
Graham Gartland 40/1 40/1 16/1
Gary Irvine 66/1 66/1 25/1
Steven Anderson 66/1 66/1 25/1

[soulfulsaint]

they have indeed changed again!

Player First Last Anytime Hatrick
Collin Samuel 10/1 10/1 7/2 66/1
Steven Milne 12/1 10/1 7/2 66/1
Paul Sheerin 16/1 14/1 11/2 150/1
Andy Jackson 16/1 12/1 5/1 100/1
Derek Holmes 16/1 11/1 4/1 100/1
Peter MacDonald 16/1 16/1 6/1 150/1
Martin Hardie 20/1 20/1 7/1 250/1
Gavin Swankie 20/1 20/1 7/1 250/1
Chris Millar 25/1 20/1 7/1 250/1
Stuart McCaffrey 25/1 25/1 8/1
Liam Craig 25/1 16/1 6/1 150/1
Kevin Moon 25/1 16/1 6/1 150/1
Jody Morris 33/1 25/1 8/1
Kevin James 33/1 33/1 12/1
Kevin Rutkiewicz 33/1 33/1 12/1
Paul Hanlon 40/1 40/1 16/1
Graham Gartland 40/1 40/1 16/1
Gary Irvine 66/1 66/1 25/1
Steven Anderson 66/1 66/1 25/1

Sheerinho 150-1 for a hat-trick - easy money - I'll have a grand on that right away. C'mon da Wizard.

[ancientsaint]

The Trophy was on display today within St Johns centre.

[Ginger Bakers rebel army]

Was up at McDiarmid this afternoon at 16.30 ,there is a mega buzz of excitment about the place.

First stop was to pick something up from the ticket office. 8 tickets sold to the people in front of me in just a few minutes. Definately saintees fans.

Then had to go and pick some sponsorship money up from the main entrance. I was there for about 10 minutes and in that time the phone never stopped ringing . Apparently it has been ringing constantly all day with ticket enquiries mainly from saints fans.

There has been a late surge of tickets sold for the saints end and the expected crowd should now be over 8,000.

BBC had been there all day setting up the cameras and the place was a hive of activity . When I left the main entrance there were 2 more fans in buying tickets.

The Muirton suite will be open tomorrow night at 18.30.

When we take the lead tomorrow we need a massive saintees chorus of "Can we play you every week" that will go down really well on TV.

Can't wait for this now another sleepless night beckons.

[templeofsaints]

Sheerinho 150-1 for a hat-trick - easy money - I'll have a grand on that right away. C'mon da Wizard. Never mind that 25/1 for Craig our penalty-taker is decent odds as well.

[sjfc.spl.09-10]

8000

That is pritty goood :)

[yahoorsir]

Never mind that 25/1 for Craig our penalty-taker is decent odds as well.

Only one problem Temple. A penalty on national tV against the Huns! Could quite easily be 250/1 unless it is Eddie Smith or Steve Conroy who is refereeing and the problem is we all know how crap they are.:mad:

[perth_saintee12]

Go on perth saintee, tell us the odds and how much you put on so we can revel in your success/failure.

Just a small bet, have done this the last 2 seasons when we have played the gers, a fiver on us to win with odds 7/1 with the payout 40 quid.

[thewhorule2002]

Sheerinho 150-1 for a hat-trick - easy money - I'll have a grand on that right away. C'mon da Wizard.

BBC must be paying well.....

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Having tried to named a team nearly two weeks ago I thought I might do another line-up seeing as we might be missing a few...

Main.

Irvine, Rusty, Caff, Hanlon.

Swanks, Morris, Sheerin, Craig.

Savo, Homer

Subs. McLean, Gartland, Millar, Reynolds, Samuel

[Finners]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_cups/7823788.stm

liam craig is struggling to be fit!!!!!??? is this true I thought he was fine!

looks like rangers arent choosing their reserves for this fixture... Thats as strong a squad as they can bring:

Rangers: (from) McGregor, Weir, Papac, Bougherra, Broadfoot, Davis, Mendes, Whittaker, Ferguson, Novo, Miller, Boyd, Alexander, Aaron, Velicka, Fleck, Dailly, Naismith

[faircityboy]

are we aloud to sing go home ya Huns tomorrow or will it result In a tug on the collar by the old bill

[sjfc.spl.09-10]

are we aloud to sing go home ya Huns tomorrow or will it result In a tug on the collar by the old bill

i think we could sing that?:laugh:

[Ginger Bakers rebel army]

Just picked up a copy of the Evening Telegraph , story on the back page confirms that saints have sold 3,200 tickets . That would have been based on sometime today probably mid to late morning.

With what I witnessed this afternoon at McDiarmid and the excitement that is now really building we could have more than 3,500 saintees and the East Stand will be full to the gunnels .Lets make some NOISEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

[williamwonka]

from the bbc site http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_cups/7823788.stm
St Johnstone: (from) Main, Irvine, Craig, Morris, Rutkiewicz, McCaffrey, Millar, Hardie, Samuel, Milne, Sheerin, Hillcoat, Anderson, Hanlon, James, Moon, Swankie, Holmes, Jackson, MacDonald.



maybe ive been away too long but who is Hillcoat? I may make a right muppet of myself.

[williamwonka]

whats the most probable........saints scoring a penalty or saints beating rangers.......bearing in mind youd prefer saints to win.........

reason is its nearly the same odds for liam to score anytime and he is most likely to take and score the pen.

[PH1 LAD]

Just picked up a copy of the Evening Telegraph , story on the back page confirms that saints have sold 3,200 tickets . That would have been based on sometime today probably mid to late morning.

With what I witnessed this afternoon at McDiarmid and the excitement that is now really building we could have more than 3,500 saintees and the East Stand will be full to the gunnels .Lets make some NOISEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Guy from my work went down for 6 tickets at lunch and was told they only had extreme left or right or front row in the east stand. :razz:

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

from the bbc site http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_cups/7823788.stm
St Johnstone: (from) Main, Irvine, Craig, Morris, Rutkiewicz, McCaffrey, Millar, Hardie, Samuel, Milne, Sheerin, Hillcoat, Anderson, Hanlon, James, Moon, Swankie, Holmes, Jackson, MacDonald.



maybe ive been away too long but who is Hillcoat? I may make a right muppet of myself.

Don't you just love how shite the BBC is...Hardie is injured, McDonald is injured, and Hillcoat left us two weeks ago...

Hillcoat is the baldy goalie who writes a column in the Sunday Mail and now coaches at Alloa. He covered for 3 weeks when Mclean was still injured

[Jamie_Beatson]

I was up at McDiarmid this evening picking up my tickets (that I paid for weeks ago but haven't been able to collect until now!), and there was a steady stream of people going in even at 4.55! The woman at the counter told the boys in front of me that they only had the very front rows of the East Stand in the centre, or the first few seats in from the ends of the stand further back, so looks like it will be pretty busy.

[Sainteesean]

cant ****ing wait. really buzzing man. 1 sleep away :)

shout out and thanks to dev.

[Macarius]

I was expecting Ghost to come along and lavish on about how he can't wait, he's the most excited he's been for a game in years and other such hyerpbole given he was claiming he didn'y give a toss last week.

CMON THE SAINTS

[sjfc.spl.09-10]

Come On You Saints



Spl You'r Havin A Laugh:laugh:

[saintee4life]

totally fired up now,hope we stuff them. No likin wot am hearin aboot liam bein doubtful hes one player we really need.

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

I was expecting Ghost to come along and lavish on about how he can't wait, he's the most excited he's been for a game in years and other such hyerpbole given he was claiming he didn'y give a toss last week.

CMON THE SAINTS

I don't think it was quite don't give a toss, but I certainly was fairly non-plus about the game. I am getting a bit more into it now but I still haven't got that feeling I normally get on the eve of a run of the mill league match. It will probably start to get to me tomorrow and by kick-off I will likely be foaming at the mooth... What has helped get me up a bit is some predictable OF shite on Pie & Bovril form one or two of the filthy Huns.

Shite like this...
I hope you do get promotion as another nothing team is just what the SPL needs . It would be nice to have another big club like Dundee or Dunfermline to take the place of the relegated team but i suppose we can only hope your bubble bursts.


And this....

Rangers will outclass St Johnstone all over the park...They will dominate the midfield and upfront Boyd will be out to prove just how vital he is to Rangers by banging in a double in an emphatic win.

And ...

Yes, I agree you have a chance, but going by some of your fans' comments, you seem to think you are favourites, or at least have a good chance - you're a decent team, but still in the first division! Just don't get yer hopes up eh

So I responded with this...

Another nothing team to go with the other 10 you mean. You havenae won the league for a good few ****ing years and that aint going to end this season is it. f**k you and your ****ing team.If we turn you over again I will laugh my head off. If you beat us , hey, you are the mighty ( Shitey) Glasgow Rangers. The sooner this game is over, the sooner we can go back to having no contact with you and you ignorant, pot hunting brothers of bigotry . You lot make me ****ing sick

And this...


We won't.

Being an OF fan though you will. Lets hope we can ruin your week, although frankly dumbfux like you probably won't care that much.

The difference between us and the old firm is that Every win feels good and every defeat hurts. You clowns only feel really good or really bad when you win/lose to the other buch of bigots..When you beat other teams, it's only what you expect; when you lose you fail to understand why it could happen. It truely must be shite being an OF fan and there must be very few occasions where you feel the way the rest of us do week in week out. I actually pity you all for that. This is the best thing about being a football supporter and you lot hardly ever feel it. I saw it at the semi last year. We had a great time and enjoyed every moment( and it wasn't because it was a novelty, as we have had plenty of these games in the last 20 years). Your fans sat silently for nearly the entire match and got no ****ing joy out of winning whatsoever.

Just think about it for a moment...Can you feel it...????? No you can't.
So you can shout about how many Championships, Scottish cups and whatever else you have won, but the one thing you'll never have, no matter how much cash you spunk, no matter how many fans you have, is that feeling. And I'll tell you what, I'd never swap the feeling for 20 championships or 20 scottish Cups....

That feeling is a soul, a football soul and you aint got one now and as long as you keep following either of the OF you'll never have one.

My soul tells me that we will win this game and if we do my soul will rejoice. Of course there's a good chance we won't and if we do lose, it will hurt, the same way it always does...
Until next weekend when we play Partick and my soul will have soothed it's self ready to face the beauty of football once again...


I fecking hate those dirty pot hunting barstewards....



COME ON SAINTS.

[saintee4life]

ghostie the best post on here for ages,absolutely brilliant and every word true......................GET RITE INTAE THEY WEEGIES SAINTS

[dave mc]

As soon as we go 1 up,i'll be starting,"YOUR SEASON IS OVER, WHY DON'T YOU GO HOME"?,i hope i'm joined by 3000 other Saints !!

[dave mc]

your seasons over, why dont you go home?!?!

Sorry Tommy,never read your post,but this is the one i want to hear!

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

An ode to goings on at Castle Greyskull...

The currants have no money,
you can hear the b*****ds wail,
Boydie and all his buddies,
Are all available for sale......

But Boyds a greedy ****er,
Said "NAW tae seventeen grand,
if I'm no getting twenty,
I'm no going tae Engerland.

And Baz the fuds another
who might be on his way
If they can find a ****ing mug
Who's daft enough to pay.

It's like the final day of Woolies,
Where everything must go,
Well except that Christian Dailly
Cos he's so ****ing slow....

[morris]

I don't think it was quite don't give a toss,.....
I fecking hate those dirty pot hunting barstewards....



COME ON SAINTS.

same old same old from the unwashed SCUM:evil:

[randan87]

lovin your long winded reply to the scum from glasgow ghost. All these west coast teams are the same. west coast mentality

[Perth-Saint]

Good stuff Ghostie!!!

MON SUPER SAINTEES!!!!!!

I can't wait for tomorrow, was up at the stadium this afternoon buying some more tickets for some mates, and finally felt a bit excited as I watched BBC Scotland setting up there gear.

MON SAINTS!!

[R.B.B:- Adz]

Looking forward to it now. Arriving in perth at 5pm then hitting the boozer. Hopeful line up would be:

Main

Irvine Rusty Gartland Hanlon

Sammy Morris Millar Craig

Holmes Savo

McLean, Caff, Ando, Swankie, Millar, Sheerin

[templeofsaints]

Been pretty apathetic towards the game until today - still doesn't feel like a proper cup tie (mainly due to no hype and the midweek date) and no doubt all the focus will still be on wally's mob and their fire sale. But it would be rather nice to shove it right up em :D

[R.B.B:- Adz]

Interview with Del here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/scotland/7821099.stm).


Is it just me or does it sound like jim spence thinks the game is at ibrox

[541ntees]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_cups/7823788.stm

is it just me or does Walter look a nervous wreck? just like a certain PLG just before Savo's destruction of the huns!

[541ntees]

I don't think it was quite don't give a toss,.....
I fecking hate those dirty pot hunting barstewards....



COME ON SAINTS.

nice one ghostie-which forum is this on cos they have no scot cup1 just spl or div1

[Only Here 2 Drink Ur Beer]

Straight to the point Ghostie, legendary stuff. can just hear them lining up their delusionary responses. But they know the truth, that the life of an old firm fan is an empty existence. always fearing the next loss rather than anticipating the next win, who ****ing needs it. it's the life of a saintee for me

1 2 3 IN YOUR GLASGOW SLUMS....

[templeofsaints]

Team news in the papers has Hardie and Peaso ruled out, Savo a major doubt with a thigh strain but Sammy fit and Holmes recovered from twisting his ankle in training.

Hibs have agreed to let Hanlon play. No word on the Craig situation.

[silver_blue]

About time we finally beat them in this competition. Only scored five in all the previous games so lets double that tonight ! Settle for 2 - 0 Saints so I can relax without the fear of twenty minutes injury time.:laugh:

[SingaporeSaint]

Good luck to Saints tonight. I shall try and get a suitable streamer and watch on the internet. If any one knows one that is reliable please pm me or post it on this thread

[wee john]

Good luck to Saints tonight. I shall try and get a suitable streamer and watch on the internet. If any one knows one that is reliable please pm me or post it on this thread

justintv.com

[garydavidson]

nice one ghostie-which forum is this on cos they have no scot cup1 just spl or div1

http://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=96492

[Aitchy]

Cant wait for kick off now. My only worry is we have not played since the 27th of December, long time without a game, hopefully we dont get "caught cold" in the first 20-30 minutes. Homer has to play, will unsettle their defence. If Savo and Peaso are both injured, then i would give Jacko a start, will get more of a shift from him, than what we would from Sammy. Lets get the songs going big style tonight, we always get crticised for our support, here is our chance to make ourselfs heard tonight, live on t.v and all that.

[Finners]

Cant wait for kick off now. My only worry is we have not played since the 27th of December, long time without a game, hopefully we dont get "caught cold" in the first 20-30 minutes. Homer has to play, will unsettle their defence. If Savo and Peaso are both injured, then i would give Jacko a start, will get more of a shift from him, than what we would from Sammy. Lets get the songs going big style tonight, we always get crticised for our support, here is our chance to make ourselfs heard tonight, live on t.v and all that.

im surprised if we still get the broad sweeping criticism because we have been great on tv when we played motherwell away, hibs at tynie, semi finals etc etc

[Rodgers]

remember this

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MON THE SAINTS!

[perth_saintee12]

Zero sleeps and the day is here!! MON SAINTS!!!!! Lets make ourselves herd tonight!