#37 - 19/04/09 - Queen of the South (h)

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

As much as our minds cannot help wandering down the Tay and dreaming of the greatest of all glories, a title win in the devils lair, I would like to remind you all that we must play Queens first and they must be afforded a level of respect they deserve. The simple fact is that we have failed to collect three points from them in the three games already played.0-0, 2-2, 3-3. We must continue to take it only one game at a time and concentate our energies on this game. As has been done in recent times, we must mobilize our support to give the team the twelth man backing they tell us is so important.As this game is also on the box it is even more important we get the troops off there arses and into the stands.. So hows about we have a pre party meeting at say 3.15 pm on Sunday the 19th April at McDairmid Park Crief Road Perth...

I would love to see as many of you as is humanly possible making this meeting..

Team wise, I would be delighted to see the same starting 11 with possibly Sheerin in for Swankie and McDonald on the bench in place of Doris if he is fit. I don't think Jody will make this game as it will come to soon but maybe , just maybe , a place on the bench..( more likely a place on the bench for Dens...)

COME ON YOU SAINTS.

COME ON YOU SAINTS FANS.

[ancientsaint]

will be in my usual seat......cannae stand watching it on a telly when most of the fun is being there....lets make some noise for the cameras !!!

[soulfulsaint]

Tough game but one we can win - think it will be narrow and a tight game again. 1-0 Saints.

May give Stephen Dobbie a wee cheer for his hard work yesterday busting Thistle's bubble.

[perth_saintee12]

As much as our minds cannot help wandering down the Tay and dreaming of the greatest of all glories, a title win in the devils lair, I would like to remind you all that we must play Queens first and they must be afforded a level of respect they deserve. The simple fact is that we have failed to collect three points from them in the three games already played.0-0, 2-2, 3-3. We must continue to take it only one game at a time and concentate our energies on this game. As has been done in recent times, we must mobilize our support to give the team the twelth man backing they tell us is so important.As this game is also on the box it is even more important we get the troops off there arses and into the stands.. So hows about we have a pre party meeting at say 3.15 pm on Sunday the 19th April at McDairmid Park Crief Road Perth...

I would love to see as many of you as is humanly possible making this meeting..

Team wise, I would be delighted to see the same starting 11 with possibly Sheerin in for Swankie and McDonald on the bench in place of Doris if he is fit. I don't think Jody will make this game as it will come to soon but maybe , just maybe , a place on the bench..( more likely a place on the bench for Dens...)

COME ON YOU SAINTS.

COME ON YOU SAINTS FANS.

Im seeing a trend here Ghosty is the score going to be 4-4?

[sjfc_camo]

Ayye good call SS Dobbie and Tosh was it who scored queens second? anyway saints to win 2-1 :D

[Ronaldo]

According to the reports Steve Tosh came oin yesterday and scored with his forst touch. He'll possibly start but then again maybe with his age he's now their super sub. I always liked Tosh.

Saints to carry on in their current form with a 2-1 win which takes us to the finishing tape ready to break it in the next three games

[Saintly Child]

Dobbie and Tosh should get a heros welcome, might make them think twice about spoiling our party. A few verses of only one Steven Dobbie/ Tosh should do.

[Scobby_SJFC]

Cant get to this as I work sundays!!! not soo good!!

[soulfulsaint]

Cant get to this as I work sundays!!! not soo good!!

Never had you down as a priest Scobby.

[Scobby_SJFC]

Never had you down as a priest Scobby.

Perhaps not but it felt devine when you invited me to the dens party walking down the stairs after yesterdays game!!!

[soulfulsaint]

Perhaps not but it felt devine when you invited me to the dens party walking down the stairs after yesterdays game!!!

Got you now the one in the monk's robes, hood and all. Glad you can make it to Dens. We will not be alone.

[scotty gordon]

CONE ON SAINTS LETS WIN THIS IN STYLE:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

CONE ON SAINTS LETS WIN THIS IN STYLE:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

You really need to check these before you post them.....

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/carlapryor/24.gif

Cone on the Barbarian...

You get away with nothing on this forum:wink:

[sjm89]

How about a nice Gaelic banner with champions on it for our tv friends?

[StuartBeedieFanClub]

Dobbie and Tosh should get a heros welcome, might make them think twice about spoiling our party. A few verses of only one Steven Dobbie/ Tosh should do.

These players are pros, so lets wait and thank them after the game.

[O'Rourke]

These players are pros, so lets wait and thank them after the game.

Good point. They will be trying their best to score and beat us for sure.

[Mike180279]

I have the feeling that having to wait 24 hours could play into our hands for once. I think we will be at them from the off with Sammy and Savo up top.

[R.B.B:- Adz]

I always liked Tosh.

Tosh is a grade A arse.

[Finners]

I realised if we win then we effectively have won the league unless partick win..... if say we win and morton win or draw then its down to goal difference..... that's gotta be a bit weird - we've like won the league but can't PROPERLY celebrate.... :S ... I take it everyone will wait until its mathematically IMPOSSIBLE for anyone else to win....

In conclusion - party at Dens then - thought so.

[101 Saint]

Tosh is a grade A arse.

Because?

[saintj]

same team as saturday for me but with sheerin in place of millar

[sjfcsean]

same team as saturday for me but with sheerin in place of millar

I'd have the same team as Saturday too, but I'd put Sheerin in place of Swankie.:D

[saintj]

I'd have the same team as Saturday too, but I'd put Sheerin in place of Swankie.:D
i just think swankie is better for us outwide than millar is

[williamwonka]

Tosh is a grade A arse.

Because?

He sat his Arse grading exams and passed with flying colours.:laugh:
No seriously I dont mind tosh, I thought he was a great player. Although as an 8 year old kid I got to train with the saints team with him in it (competition) , He was doing his stretching sitting down, then all of a sudden whipped his manhood out and starting urinating right in front of me. Scarred me for life!!! :shock: Im over it now though!

[Dr Christmas Jones]

Tosh is a grade A arse.I know his mum and she is a really nice woman.I have a good relationship with Steve and hope to get a blether with him on sunday.Thought he was a superb young player for us.

[Dylan-Saints]

here am just wondering if we win on sun then morton win against partick as well would the sfl comfirm we are champions as we would be 9 clear of them with 3 games to go or would they wait until the weekend after when we have beat the scum

[Lincolnshire no More]

No we have to wait. We go on and lose our next three games and they score pots of goals and suddenly their goal difference beats ours. In those possible circumstances the SFL has to wait until we can't be caught.

[Dylan-Saints]

but the bad thing for morton they still have to come to McDiarmid so its unlikely

[Deek]

Big/noisy crowd needed next Sunday!

Every Saints fan wants to win the league at Dens and the best chance of doing that is by winning next week.

Not surprising that when Kev played Scooter at half time last week the atmosphere lifted. Think, as a one off, Saints should run out to Runrig - Loch Lomond to really get the fans in full voice? How good would it be having the whole of the East stand singing to that!

[Mike180279]

but the bad thing for morton they still have to come to McDiarmid so its unlikelyOne could agrue that this is perfect for them. If we go on to get beat by dundee 1-0, and airdrie 1-0 they would only need to record a 3 goal margin (assuming they won their other games by odd goals)

not that would happen, just in theory.

[keveyboysaint]

1st of all we must win on sunday, lets get get behind the team and start to party, Hopefully some of the part timers come to this and get behind the team. Drop in price saints? lets fill the place!

[StuartBeedieFanClub]

1st of all we must win on sunday, lets get get behind the team and start to party, Hopefully some of the part timers come to this and get behind the team. Drop in price saints? lets fill the place!

With the game on the tellybox, I think it is a great idea to drop the prices and get a bigger crowd.

[Ray Blair]

Dropping prices aint the answer.Issuing vouchers for Dens would be!!!!

[soulfulsaint]

I'd have the same team as Saturday too, but I'd put Sheerin in place of Swankie.:D

Man of vision - so would I. Team looked solid against Dunfermline putting aside a couple of wobbles including Gartland for penalty, but hard to see how anyone would want to change the team much.

Noticed Gartland impeding his man at the home game against DAFC too needs to watch it doesn't catch him out again.

[Mike180279]

Man of vision - so would I. Team looked solid against Dunfermline putting aside a couple of wobbles including Gartland for penalty, but hard to see how anyone would want to change the team much.

Noticed Gartland impeding his man at the home game against DAFC too needs to watch it doesn't catch him out again.Probably lack of match sharpness more than anything else, looks very solid. Sheerin probably would have started against Pars if it wasnt for the midweek game taking its toll on the mature legs. He will start on Sunday.

[SingaporeSaint]

Geez, has this game not been won yet... we have bigger fish to fry...get it won and over with as soon as possible.

[supersaint44]

here am just wondering if we win on sun then morton win against partick as well would the sfl comfirm we are champions as we would be 9 clear of them with 3 games to go or would they wait until the weekend after when we have beat the scum

Wait a min have i done my sum wrong? we are 7 clear no? and if partick loose and we win then thats 10 clear with 9 left so can we not win the league on sunday? or am i missing something?

[saint87]

Wait a min have i done my sum wrong? we are 7 clear no? and if partick loose and we win then thats 10 clear with 9 left so can we not win the league on sunday? or am i missing something?

if morton beat partick they are only 9 points behind us so we cant win the league either way.

[Mike180279]

Wait a min have i done my sum wrong? we are 7 clear no? and if partick loose and we win then thats 10 clear with 9 left so can we not win the league on sunday? or am i missing something?Morton play Partick so if they win they would only be 9 behind us even if we win.

[541ntees]

Morton play Partick so if they win they would only be 9 behind us even if we win.

we should make this the title of a thread an make it a sticky so we don't need to keep posting it on every thread:wink:

[Perth-Saint]

Sheerin in for Swankie otherwise stick the same. Got to focus on this game and get the three points which will allow us to win the title down the river.

Can't wait now, finish work at 3pm then a rush up to McDairmid:D

MON SAINTS!!

[saint87]

i missed the game against dunfermline but from what i have read and been told we have to put sheerin in for swankie and keep the same team. this game is a massive game for us 100% concentration is required against queens. Dobbie is a big threat but hopefully rusty will keep him quiet. The singing in the second half against dunfermline at home was great but need it for the whole game to show our appreciation for the position we are in!!

CMON YOU SAINTS NOT LONG NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[saintj]

i dont think its a neccessity that swankie has to be dropped for the queens game, sheerin will likely be back in the middle and i think it will be a toss up between swankie and millar

[soulfulsaint]

QOS come in confidence and want to "spoil the party" according to their club website:

Gordon Chisholm will be hoping that Queens can delay St Johnstone's 'promotion party' when they meet at McDiarmid Park in the televised match on Sunday.

Says 'Chis', "It's a big day for both clubs with so much at stake. It's another tough one and we'll have to keep it tight at the back. Although we respect St Johnstone we don't fear them as we've drawn thrice already this season. They've all been close, hotly contested games and I'm expecting the same this time around and we'll go up there with our confidence 'sky-high' after that Thistle result "

http://www.qosfc.com/ClubNews/ViewFullStory/tabid/151/selectmoduleid/498/ArticleID/519/reftab/36/Default.aspx

[st Tommy]

Sheerin in for Swankie otherwise stick the same.


Totally agree.

Incidentally, any word on Mooners injury? Fit enough for the bench maybe?

[Ronaldo]

QOS come in confidence and want to "spoil the party" according to their club website:

Gordon Chisholm will be hoping that Queens can delay St Johnstone's 'promotion party' when they meet at McDiarmid Park in the televised match on Sunday.

Says 'Chis', "It's a big day for both clubs with so much at stake. It's another tough one and we'll have to keep it tight at the back. Although we respect St Johnstone we don't fear them as we've drawn thrice already this season. They've all been close, hotly contested games and I'm expecting the same this time around and we'll go up there with our confidence 'sky-high' after that Thistle result "

http://www.qosfc.com/ClubNews/ViewFullStory/tabid/151/selectmoduleid/498/ArticleID/519/reftab/36/Default.aspx
Yes QOS will be coming to win and upset our plans but their form is very strange. They have lost to Ross County at home and Airdrie Utd. away yet when they play the top teams away from home like Dundee and Partick they have come out victorious. Most of their other recent results have been draws. I think they will psyche themselves up for the game against us but we'll win narrowly and head for the big one next week hopefully.

[saintee4life]

Nevermind dens, what size o crowd are we gonnae get for this game?

[Mike180279]

Nevermind dens, what size o crowd are we gonnae get for this game?I think it will be slightly higher than usual, there still seems to be people out there that think we can win the title on sunday :roll: 3300 sounds about right as they dont travel well.

[Finners]

Nevermind dens, what size o crowd are we gonnae get for this game?

3.5k?

[McEwan1884]

If Partick lose i would think we could get more towrds 4k?

[StuartBeedieFanClub]

I think it will be slightly higher than usual, there still seems to be people out there that think we can win the title on sunday :roll: 3300 sounds about right as they dont travel well.

Don't tell them we can't do it on Sunday, the more the merrier.

[Calypso Kid]

i dont think its a neccessity that swankie has to be dropped for the queens game, sheerin will likely be back in the middle and i think it will be a toss up between swankie and millar

**Waves to Gavin**

[StuartBeedieFanClub]

If no injuries the same team that started on Saturday, with the same result.

[Mike180279]

If Partick lose i would think we could get more towrds 4k?With it being on TV I think QoS would be doing well to bring 300.

[McEwan1884]

With it being on TV I think QoS would be doing well to bring 300.

Dont really expect Qos to bring many, but would hope Saintees come out for the game.

[Dave H]

0.0 I predict a boredraw for bbc alba :(

[Saintkev]

Did Gordon Chisholm actually say the word "thrice"!!?? Hah!

[silver_blue]

0.0 I predict a boredraw for bbc alba :(

Very important to win this and kill of the others once and for all. Especially the dreams of our old pal Davie !

http://www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/articles/2/38377

That's why it would be good to get the trophy presented on May 2nd.

[themole]

come on ye saints fans let see you out in force for this sunday against queens, live on tv. if we can take 6000 to dens let see 6000 in mcdairmid on sunday. important match lets cheer on the blues to victory and the premier league. by the way we cant win the league on sunday no matter how partick do because if thistle draw then they could still equal our points (then goal difference) and if morton win then then morton could still equal our points (again goal difference would decide). dens will be a decider

[themole]

free tickets , i think saints should make it free for children and 10 pound for adults give something back to the fans, what does people think. also make it busy for tv.

[saint87]

free tickets , i think saints should make it free for children and 10 pound for adults give something back to the fans, what does people think. also make it busy for tv.

think its a good idea would love to see a big crowd at home and with the ormond stand full of flags would look good on tv and show great support for the team if we can have a big crowd.


CMON SAINTS!!!!

[garydavidson]

Motherwell have just announced that their game against st mirren this weekend will be £5 for everyone, home and away support, in a bid to get a crowd behind them to get them in the top six! They do seem to be one of the only teams really trying to get people in the seats.

[saint87]

Motherwell have just announced that their game against st mirren this weekend will be £5 for everyone, home and away support, in a bid to get a crowd behind them to get them in the top six! They do seem to be one of the only teams really trying to get people in the seats.


I think thats a great idea. Even though the game will be crap they might have to pay them £5 each to come:)

[saintj]

**Waves to Gavin**
thats mr swankie to you :)

[LangToonSaint]

Did the club not do a 'bring a friend' deal for season tickets at the Qos game a couple of season back when we needed to win to take it to the last game.

Thought there was a decent crowd at that ga,e.

[john1962]

Motherwell have just announced that their game against st mirren this weekend will be £5 for everyone, home and away support, in a bid to get a crowd behind them to get them in the top six! They do seem to be one of the only teams really trying to get people in the seats.

I prefer not to be compared to a team who cut prices, paid big wages and went into administration leaving people unemployed.

[Cagey]

I think Saints should let everyone in for £5. They will not lose too much as there will be few Queens fans & there would`nt be too non season ticket holders there. They would make up any loss with the catering & it may get some atmosphere into the stadium.

[Saintkev]

Folk there should get right up for this though, and sing their hearts out... get in practice for Dens... but one thing... think about what you are singing, a few songs have been cringworthy of late... "You're season is over..." to Dunfermline who have a great chance of making the Scottish Cup Final??!!

[101 Saint]

They would make up any loss with the catering & it may get some atmosphere into the stadium.

Sorry, but that is complete tosh. Even if Saints took 100% of the catering profit it wouldn't come close; never has and never will. Motherwell have already shown what happens when prices are slashed. Whenever Saints have done this, the people of Perth have responded with ill-informed indifference. No reason to cut prices, keep the gate price fixed and use the money wisely.

[jinky]

Sorry, but that is complete tosh. Even if Saints took 100% of the catering profit it wouldn't come close; never has and never will. Motherwell have already shown what happens when prices are slashed. Whenever Saints have done this, the people of Perth have responded with ill-informed indifference. No reason to cut prices, keep the gate price fixed and use the money wisely.

I agree with that, the fee we get for this game from Alba (I'm sure i saw it was about £9000 somewhere) is equivalent to a little over 500 paying adults. So dropping prices to £10 or less would mean a crowd of over 4000 being required to make the usual gate. I would hope we achieve that, but TV and current climate may dictate may say otherwise. Won't be many traveling from Dumfries either.

[slf]

its a sunday game.

[st Tommy]

Good to see that Willie Coburn, Jim Donaldson, John Brogan, Willie Brown and Roddy will be on the pitch at half time!

Maybe bring on Roddy for the 2nd half if Holmes isnt performing :wink::laugh:

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

Time to put party thoughts on hold for the next couple of days and get ourselves up for this on. If Dens is a main course consisting of Lobster Thermador with fresh buttered asparagus and Duchese potatoes then the Queens game is a starter of smoked duck breast with wild forest mushrooms and a rich Claret jus. And remember what yer maw always said." if you dont finish your duck young man , they be no lobster for you tonight".

So lets go enjoy " our starter" and give our chef and his team all the support we can..

COME ON SAINTS FANS...

COME ON SAINTS.......

[O'Rourke]

food for thought mate

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

food for thought mate

Funnily enough I wear white tee-shirts at work with that exact phrase emblazoned on the front in large blue letters. I tell you this as I sit here eating my tea... A raspberry jam roll , a chicken roll roll, a pint of fresh orange juice and 3 chocolate digestives..In the words of Slf....Braw:laugh:

[monkfish]

Will we be seeing Ando at left back again for this?

It seems very strange that McInnes seems to favour him in this role in recent and previous matches vs Dunfermline, but not in many other games this season. He's done a decent job there recently, it just seems peculiar that he hasn't played there more regularly, but Del has suddenly started playing him there when he is apparently injured.

Either McInnes thinks he is peculiarly suited to Dunfermline games, has lost confidence with Craig at left back, or suddenly decided he fancies playing him despite leaving him out for most of the season. Odd.

[templeofsaints]

I think with Mooner out we needed Craig to add some push to midfield. A lot depends on who Ando is likely to be up against.

[R.B.B:- Adz]

Will be a lot more confident if Martyn Lancaster, Jim Thomson, Stewart Keane and Sean O’Connor dont play!!

[Ray Blair]

Will be a lot more confident if Martyn Lancaster, Jim Thomson, Stewart Keane and Sean O’Connor dont play!!


Imagine the scene-your team is top of the league within striking distance of winning the league.Games are running out for other sides and your team has only lost one game in 6 months.You have a home game coming up and your teams has an incredible home record....

And your NOT confident????????????????

Get a grip man!

[Ronaldo]

HAVE A GO SAINTS!

[Perth-Saint]

It's a cliche but nevertheless in a situation like this it remains true. Every game is a cup final just now, in my opinion tomorrows game is huge. I am truely buzzed. Been a wee while since I have been this excited about a game.

MON SAINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GET STUCK IN!!!!!

[Saintkev]

Partick winning today should be enough of a kick up the hoop... just no switching off in the same five minutes that Dobbie decides to get his finger out!

[208saint]

Partick winning and Clyde beating Airdrie was a really crap set of results for us but we have had plenty of weekends of good results this season, we'll just need to go out and do the job ourselves this week.

[slf]

queen of the south they are mentioned in the bible you know.

[slf]

queen of the south


gay or what?

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

gay or what?

Who?? You???:laugh:

[R.B.B:- Adz]

Beautiful sunshine today and hopefully a beautiful win to see the Saintee's back to the SPL!!!!
Hope we've all got our voices finely tuned, the lads are going to need us!

1-0, 92nd minute, Kevin Rutkiewicz header! Happy days!

[Dilated Pupil]

Go the lads- the game will KO at midnight/ Monday morning here. No-one at work can believe that Saints are live on television. Mind you, I can't believe Home & Away & Neighbours are on the television. Having said that, some decent punani. But I digress.

[sjfc.spl.09-10]

since its a sunday game live on t.v how many do you think will go to this one?

[Ali91]

Sun is shining, Ring of Fires pumping and Ali91 is buzzing. :cool:

C'MON YOU SAINTEES.

[bigstu]

I guess 3000 or so.

Leaving Aberdeen now, cannot wait for this one!

Stu

[O'Rourke]

Not one to ever advocate violence but we need to nail the Dobster early doors!

Who's going to take one for the team?

[SingaporeSaint]

Not one to ever advocate violence but we need to nail the Dobster early doors!

Who's going to take one for the team?

be careful what you say, I have had practically all of my posts removed today.

[StDuncM]

Not one to ever advocate violence but we need to nail the Dobster early doors!

Who's going to take one for the team?

As long as he is nailed far outside the penalty area and fairly of course.

[StDuncM]

be careful what you say, I have had practically all of my posts removed today.

One was fairly controversial SS! I fear a PM coming for you my son!

[O'Rourke]

As long as he is nailed far outside the penalty area and fairly of course.

Naturally, the way I played the game myself!

[Dr Christmas Jones]

One was fairly controversial SS! I fear a PM coming for you my son!I think its PMT,pre match tension.Not only today, but next weekend.

[SingaporeSaint]

One was fairly controversial SS! I fear a PM coming for you my son!

Oh, had my knuckles rapped by PM already. Back on Topic, Dobster is not SPL material.

[Dr Christmas Jones]

Naturally, the way I played the game myself!Hard but fair:)

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

be careful what you say, I have had practically all of my posts removed today.

Yeah I noticed that. What's going on???

[Dev]

Yeah I noticed that. What's going on???

http://gf77.com/untitled-2.jpg

:laugh::laugh:

[SingaporeSaint]

Me and Dev have kissed and made up so back on topic.......My reckoning of 2-0 saints could put me back on top of the prediction league.

[Johnstoun]

I am coming up for the Dundee and Morton games, come on Saints, don't let my glory hunting be in vain!

[StDuncM]

Me and Dev have kissed and made up so back on topic.......My reckoning of 2-0 saints could put me back on top of the prediction league.

Only if you post it!

[Cagey]

Marvelous day. hope the sun brings out the best in Sammy.

[Soberix]

Was considering staying in and watching the game on Alba but its a cracking day outside. Been a long long time since we've had weather like this so lets all make a day of it and get behind the Saintees today.

[StDuncM]

On the Doonhamers site they seem pretty confident of taking something from the game although the Footymad predo is for a narrow 2-1 win to Saints.

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

After this Dens nonsense I'm raging. Lets get up there and rip Queens to shreds and set this thing up for next week..

COME ON SAINTS .**** OFF DUNDEE

[StDuncM]

Saints: Main, Irvine, Anderson, Craig, Rutkiewicz, Gartland, Swankie, Hardie, Milne, Samuel, Sheerin.
Subs: Millar, Moon, Holmes, Barrett, McLean

[R.B.B:- Adz]

Saints: Main, Irvine, Anderson, Craig, Rutkiewicz, Gartland, Swankie, Hardie, Milne, Samuel, Sheerin.
Subs: Millar, Moon, Holmes, Barrett, McLean

Happy enough with that! COME ON SWANKIE, give us a good show!

[StDuncM]

Queens quartet Jim Thomson, Martyn Lancaster, Stewart Keane and Sean O'Connor have missed training this week and are unlikely to feature.

Queens: Robinson, Reid, McQuilken, MacFarlane, Lancaster, Thomson, Wilson, Scally, O’Connor, Dobbie, Burns.
Subs: Kean, Tosh, Barr, Aitken, Halliwell

So all the doubtful ones are there then!

[Dennistoun Saint]

Great finish from Dobbie. Sh*t.

[Sheffield Saintie]

saints just had goal disallowed. still 0-1 to QOS.

[Sainteesean]

just missed the goal, what hapnd?

[SingaporeSaint]

ooops, squeaky bum time

[Dennistoun Saint]

Dobbie skinned two and finished into far side of net. Queens better side at moment.

[Indicator]

That man... again.

[SingaporeSaint]

what is the crowd size and volume ?

[Remberbuck]

Queens keeper palmed in his own net - ref seemed to think Hardie punched it in.

Wrong decision.

[Sainteesean]

whos is the big flag?

[geoff was right!!]

what is the crowd size and volume ?

looks like just the usual size and crowd is quiet, not surprising the way we're playing.

[Sheffield Saintie]

HT
saints 0 - 1 QOS

[dhs]

Nothing special so far.

Nothing wrong with our goal either.

[Finners]

What an inept first half from saints. Our supply to the strikers is abysmal. The midfield has no co-herence. Theres little flashes of nice touches and passing but its not often enough. Every time we get posession we lump it forward either out of play or into their posession. C'mon Del get them telt at half time!!

Get the ball on the deck, we have sheerin, craig, swanks, sammy all = keep the ball on the deck!

[Sainteesean]

quite enjoying this sturrock interview

[SingaporeSaint]

quite enjoying this sturrock interview

didnt know Sturrock could speak gaelic ?

[Sainteesean]

he cant. neither can i

saints miss a few sitters. oh the joy.

[Sainteesean]

****off. fat ****

[Sheffield Saintie]

Sh*te

saints 0 - 2 qos

[Indicator]

Oh he'll just be lovin' this.

[Sheffield Saintie]

They didn't deserve that. Dobbie again. Let's see what character they have now...

[gingermunkie]

Oh he'll just be lovin' this.

Deserves to.

[Finners]

couldnt hae **** about sturrock at this precise moment in time. Saints are joke just now. On this performance we don't deserve to be in the SPL

[Sainteesean]

ando is pish :(

[Sainteesean]

get up sammy

[geoff was right!!]

QOS fans singing 'SPL you're having a laugh' think they've got a point based on this performance

[st paddy]

almost inevitable that Dobbie would score. Always liked him, was disapointed to see him go. I know about his attitude etc, but lets face it Mr Grant wasn't all about the gym, was he?

[injured saint]

so if the score stays like that then no party next week then

[Finners]

Im not one of those folk who find it easy to get into a mode of 'oh no I cant watch this' but im genuinely VERY close to turning off my laptop and going to the north inch to enjoy the sunshine with my mates and no on this I wont be going to dens next week - inept, gutless, clueless.

[Indicator]

For the last 6 months we've only scored goals on the odd occasion, and rarely more than one, and even then it's a never one of our so called strikers. We've relied almost totally on results going our way. Which so far they're definitely not doing this week-end. By what I am hearing we're playing to our normal standard.

[geoff was right!!]

so if the score stays like that then no party next week then

If we win next week and Partick lose then we can win it

[StansTheMan]

If we win next week and Partick lose then we can win it

As good as it sounds, its highly unlikley :neutral:

[Indicator]

We would be relying on other teams results again.

[Finners]

right f*** this im not watching anymore - im raging

[Technomuppet]

I'm so f**cked off with "IF"

[Technomuppet]

And it's my birthday today. And I sort of thought everything would be ok. Piss

[StansTheMan]

well in homer. lets see if they've got the bottle.

[Technomuppet]

I can't do the "waiting for Gretna to draw" thing again. My liver's shot to hell.

[Sainteesean]

good goal sir.

[Indicator]

On the positive side - if it had been played yesterday it would have f****d up Saturday and Sunday. I'll await the onslaught from those that actually paid to watch that lot.

[injured saint]

when saints have a big game at home they never play well and never win
am just glad i did not pay to go home to see this game

[SingaporeSaint]

right f*** this im not watching anymore - im raging

You are not even at the game and you are leaving the TV screen ? just as well u never paid to get in or it would have been a nitemare for you.

[StansTheMan]

Yesssssssssss!!!!

[Sainteesean]

Yes

[Indicator]

when saints have a big game at home they never play well and never win
am just glad i did not pay to go home to see this game

Which is why the crowds won't come back.

[geo69]

yaaaaaaaaaaaassssssss!!!!!!

[Sainteesean]

2-2 millar :)

[saint_laurie]

right f*** this im not watching anymore - im raging

I wish you had fu**ed off to the park with your mates, been doing my head in all game with your negative shite!

GO ON SAINTS

KEEP THE FAITH

[SingaporeSaint]

wow

[Indicator]

I wish you had fu**ed off to the park with your mates, been doing my head in all game with your negative shite!

GO ON SAINTS

KEEP THE FAITH

Now, now - we're all supposed to be on the same side.... are we not.

[Technomuppet]

Best birthday pressie ever....... Unless they score a winner.

[SingaporeSaint]

I wish you had fu**ed off to the park with your mates, been doing my head in all game with your negative shite!

GO ON SAINTS

KEEP THE FAITH

The boy has learned a lesson, dont be too hard on him

[Sainteesean]

pish.

[Sainteesean]

2-3 ft qots.

[StansTheMan]

what a waste. get back into the game and blow it on schoolboy defending. sh*te

[Lee-G]

Best birthday pressie ever....... Unless they score a winner.

Keano Keano ! :-)

Some things never change !

[Saint.Justin]

Thats bloody sickening ...
defence caught off guard again!

ffs saints

[injured saint]

2-3 ft

[Dayzo]

Evil, sickening but from our point of view, hilarious.

[Dennistoun Saint]

Keano Keano ! :-)

Some things never change !

He must be delighted to be playing for a better team right enough. Who were the piss poor mob he used to play for again?

[mad saints fan]

ffs 10 seconds left and savo back heels it to a queens defender what's he thinking? there was not a saints player around to heel it to!!

[Technomuppet]

I can't bloody believe it. Lucky I have a bottle of tanqueray in the cupboard. Next week????

[Dundeederryboy]

That was fun to watch now ladies wasnt it :laugh:

[Dennistoun Saint]

Plenty of attacking effort in the second half but missed some good chances. Difference between the sides, as obvious as it sounds, was that Queens took their chances, we didn't (or at least not all of them). Samuel was pretty good, Moon made a difference when he came on but that aside I didn't think anyone was good enough today.

[Indicator]

The boy has learned a lesson, dont be too hard on him

Nah! he should have switched off when he said he was going to. The end result being the mitigating factor.

[Dennistoun Saint]

That was fun to watch now ladies wasnt it :laugh:

It was entertaining I suppose. Must make you lot wonder what it might have been. Shame for a "big team" like you not to be involved at this stage of the season isn't it?! :laugh:

[O'Rourke]

Hey gloat all you want, bet you wish you were clear at the top of the league?

[Lee-G]

Who were the piss poor mob he used to play for again?

That would be the "piss poor mob" with no debt and a new stadium who are safe in the SPL , the league that you lot are doing your best to miss out on again ! :-))))

[injured saint]

That was fun to watch now ladies wasnt it :laugh:

am just glad i did not see tha game today

[jez1971]

Unbelievable that we switched off for the 3rd time in the game and let them steal the points. Schoolboy defending for the 90 minutes has cost ensured a nervy end to the season. No idea why the goal in the 1st half was disallowed though.

[Technomuppet]

But this is why we're Saints fans and don't follow an "easy team". Nervy is good. it keeps my company (alcohol) in business!!! We could all give up, but we don't. Once a saintee, always...

[jez1971]

But this is why we're Saints fans and don't follow an "easy team". Nervy is good. it keeps my company (alcohol) in business!!! We could all give up, but we don't. Once a saintee, always...

I am and always will be a Saintee but the facts are that we were tactically naive today.

[Dennistoun Saint]

That would be the "piss poor mob" with no debt and a new stadium who are safe in the SPL , the league that you lot are doing your best to miss out on again ! :-))))

We're probably the best run club in the country, we have a stadium that's 20 years older yet 20 times better than that awful place in glorious FP and we're still on course to join you in the SPHell. Are you just worried that when we do join you that we'll once again wipe the floor with you? I admire your persistence in supporting such a dreadful side as St.Mirren. Congratulations on staying up. I look forward to once again demontrating our superiority over you.

[StDuncM]

Only one side in it during the first half but the goal should not have been chalked off. Richmond was wrong. Not pretty watching on Alba but we came back from the dead only for Savo to back heel when it should have been booted into the Tesco car park.

They needed the points and they were better than us but we are still in pole position.

[Invernessaint]

Unbelievable that we switched off for the 3rd time in the game and let them steal the points. Schoolboy defending for the 90 minutes has cost ensured a nervy end to the season. No idea why the goal in the 1st half was disallowed though.

They hardly "stole" the points - we gave them away. Feel sorry for Ando but as has been said on here a few times before you can always expect a monumental cock up from him sooner or later and they rarely go unpunished. Yet again lack of a settled left back causes us problems. Next week will now be a 'nervy' affair!

[silver_blue]

To make the winner worse my Zattoo froze at 91.30 the nstarted in double quick time right up to the goal going in. The 90 secs took about thirty. Bizarre and sickening. Second and third goals were really bad ones though.

Still there's always next week.

[Indicator]

As we have been for an awful lot of the season. (Tactically Naive that is)

[GazNicolson]

cant believe it took until 15 minutes from time for us to actually wake up and start playing football.if we can play like we did last 15 mins bar the shambles in the last minute of injury time we shud be fine.the leagues still ours for the taking and still 4 points clear so lets not get 2 disheartened !

[Technomuppet]

so if we are tactically niave, should we go up to SPL? Or have we found our level? I don't want to get f**ked on a regular basis next season.

[Doctorsaint]

if we are going to do it will be the hard way but life as a saintee is never easy

[sjfc.spl.09-10]

A feeling it will come down to last day again!

[The ghost of Jim Morton]

I'm gutted ..:sad: If I'm totally honest we never really deserved anything from the game. Too many players just never turned up today. Some shocking decisions by a completely inept referee did not help but at the end of the day we lost because we were not good enough on the day, not because the referee was shite. I think it hurts more because we got it back to two all then gifted them the winner. I dunno what it looked like on TV but certainly to me it looked like Kean was played onside by Craig for the winner. Just have to put this one to bed and remember we are 4 points clear with 3 games to go and it is still completely in our own hands. I know it's a cliche but if we had been offered a 4 point lead with 3 to go in August we would have grabbed it with both hands. Good to see Holmes getting one in the net.
Nothing is ever easy with Saints and we can still win the title at Dens if We get all 3 points and Partick lose to Livi. For that to happen though we will have to play much better, show some composure and above all not panic. If it goes to the Morton game or even Airdrie away last day I care not. I firmly believe Saints WILL be Champions.

Lets keep the faith guys and girls , lets all get down to Dens and lets get right behind them one more time.

One other disappointment was the level of abuse the team was taking when we were two down. We have no god given right to win anything and some of you people need to take a long hard look at yourselves.

Onwards and upwards...

COME ON YOU SAINTS.

[jez1971]

I'm gutted ..:sad: If I'm totally honest we never really deserved anything from the game. Too many players just never turned up today. Some shocking decisions by a completely inept referee did not help but at the end of the day we lost because we were not good enough on the day, not because the referee was shite. I think it hurts more because we got it back to two all then gifted them the winner. I dunno what it looked like on TV but certainly to me it looked like Kean was played onside by Craig for the winner. Just have to put this one to bed and remember we are 4 points clear with 3 games to go and it is still completely in our own hands. I know it's a cliche but if we had been offered a 4 point lead with 3 to go in August we would have grabbed it with both hands. Good to see Holmes getting one in the net.
Nothing is ever easy with Saints and we can still win the title at Dens if We get all 3 points and Partick lose to Livi. For that to happen though we will have to play much better, show some composure and above all not panic. If it goes to the Morton game or even Airdrie away last day I care not. I firmly believe Saints WILL be Champions.

Lets keep the faith guys and girls , lets all get down to Dens and lets get right behind them one more time.

One other disappointment was the level of abuse the team was taking when we were two down. We have no god given right to win anything and some of you people need to take a long hard look at yourselves.

Onwards and upwards...

COME ON YOU SAINTS.

Kean was def onside for the last goal Ghostie. Agree with your sentiment - what disappointed me most was that we managed to get ourselves into the position of claiming a valuable point from a game that had passed us by for long periods, only to gift them a late winner.

The team needs us more than ever now - we need to revert Craig to LB for the full 90 as Ando cant play there.

[Technomuppet]

wise words. it's just really hard (again!). But you're right. I don't care how we do it, we'll do it this season. Who's up for a Pitroddie game next season??????

[Calinho]

Its still in saints hands, simple as that

[Doctorsaint]

the richmind has been alwful all year we not the only team to be rob is his rule makeing but the lads need can do it keep the faith but need a beter promforance next week or it will be down to 1 points

[patsy]

why the **** was gartland taken off and anderson stayed on?

[Indicator]

Tactical !!

[Technomuppet]

Do you mean Naively tactical???

[patsy]

Tactical !!

well it didnt work. why not just take ando off ?

[Lee-G]

"We're probably the best run club in the country" , :-)))))))))



"we have a stadium that's 20 years older yet 20 times better than that awful place in glorious FP and we're still on course to join you in the SPHell" You'll have visited it already then and know what you're talking about? , were you there supporting Rangers?



"I look forward to once again demontrating our superiority over you".Like the 10(ten) point superiority we had over you last time?




:-)

[Calypso Kid]

The worst bit about today was that Queens didn't even have to employ their counter-attack tactics because we handed it to them on a plate anyway. We looked better balanced in the second half with Sheerin linking with Craig. I take it Gartland was injured to be swapped at half time because to leave bombscare Anderson in there was a ridiculous choice if he wasn't.

Main kept us in it with a block from Dobbie that could have been avoided (again). Good spirited comeback but the winner was just another farcical defensive decision which in all fairness hasn't really been common this season.

Overall they weren't worth the points but then again either were we with the defending that took place.

Heads up, roll on Dens.


PS- Referee and Linesman combined to provide the most inept display I have seen from official this season and that takes something. Take a bow Mr Richmond.

[patsy]

The worst bit about today was that Queens didn't even have to employ their counter-attack tactics because we handed it to them on a plate anyway. We looked better balanced in the second half with Sheerin linking with Craig. I take it Gartland was injured to be swapped at half time because to leave bombscare Anderson in there was a ridiculous choice if he wasn't.

Main kept us in it with a block from Dobbie that could have been avoided (again). Good spirited comeback but the winner was just another farcical defensive decision which in all fairness hasn't really been common this season.

Overall they weren't worth the points but then again either were we with the defending that took place.

Heads up, roll on Dens.


PS- Referee and Linesman combined to provide the most inept display I have seen from official this season and that takes something. Take a bow Mr Richmond.

Thats some of the worst defending i have ever seen from ando terrible choice from del if gartland wasnt injured

[Indicator]

Do you mean Naively tactical???

Probabably, or possibly. Depends what he was hoping to achieve. I like sitting on this fence.

[sjfcsean]

well it didnt work. why not just take ando off ?

Ando was awful.:oops:

[Technomuppet]

Seriously - have you been to Dumfries??? Perth every time (even thought I live in London!!!). Saints are my team, I love them, my dad took me to see them as a nipper, no-one I work with has any idea who they are, - Got to be good!! Where's the pub in London for the Dundee match? Can't make it north so may have to party on my own.

[poang]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHH
Why do we have to make things so difficult for ourselves?!

Why was gartland subbed? Was he injured? He wasnt playing well but then noone was.
Just like the Partick game i found myself saying aloud "aww McInnes what are you doing?" when I saw the changes at half time.

We were fairly honking yet still could of won that if it hadnt been for the completely useless Richmond, and 1 or 2 lapses in concentration.

Think im gonna have a bit of sunburn, which nicely tops off a shitty day. Some physical pain to go with the mental. Braw

[Technomuppet]

Sunburn - much respect, amigo. Where in the world is sunburn happening now?

[saintee4life]

why the **** was gartland taken off and anderson stayed on?Because he was more shite than ando was simple as that

[patsy]

what game were you watching like?

[saint87]

Ando was awful.:oops:

totally agree ando cost us the game!! hes not a left back he was the worst player on the park he should have been taken off!!:evil:

And when was it an offence to shout at the linesman? A police officer came and said to stop shouting at the linesman because we are being watched!!! what a load of bolloks!!

[Radford 72]

I guessed he would hook Ando or Gartland at half-time but thought it'd be the former. Gartland wasn't playing well but he's played the last few matches alongside Ruti and they are getting a better understanding, whilst that's the first time Rutkiewicz and Anderson have been paired this year. Not much you can say about Ando's second half performance, he'll know himself he just had a stinker, although Rutkiewicz had an off day as well.

When they scored their second they managed to successfully kill the game, so credit to the lads for fighting back but to then throw it away is hard to take. Savo was trying to keep the ball in so we could find a winner but the ultimate irony is that Queens benefit from the injury time they added to the match.

It's good have a strong squad but it'd be nice if McInnes could get the actual starting XI right one week. Well done to the subs though.

[Dennistoun Saint]

:-)

I didn't need to visit it - there were already 3 people in it and the 4th would have taken it over capacity! It makes Broadwood look impressive!
Granted you absolutely romped it in this division and fair play for that. I'm just saying there's no doubt we're a better team than you these days. Last season's cup matches were just a preview. You might be in the league above us but you're delusional if you think that automatically makes you a better team. Now off you trot son, must be time for your next hit of the good gear anyway.

[Jags Ya Bas!]

Granted you absolutely romped it in this division and fair play for that. I'm just saying there's no doubt we're a better team than you these days.
No doubt? Debatable.

[soulfulsaint]

I guessed he would hook Ando or Gartland at half-time but thought it'd be the former. Gartland wasn't playing well but he's played the last few matches alongside Ruti and they are getting a better understanding, whilst that's the first time Rutkiewicz and Anderson have been paired this year. Not much you can say about Ando's second half performance, he'll know himself he just had a stinker, although Rutkiewicz had an off day as well.


It's good have a strong squad but it'd be nice if McInnes could get the actual starting XI right one week. Well done to the subs though.

Frustrating but he's not scared to hook people at half-time, he's done that more than any manager i can remember. So self-aware in that he knows when things are not working.

[saintee4life]

well take a look at the first goal in the lead up to it it was gartlands mistake. yes ando went on to have a stinker but outa the two in the first 45 gartland was worst, that my friend is why he was taken off

[patsy]

well take a look at the first goal in the lead up to it it was gartlands mistake. yes ando went on to have a stinker but outa the two in the first 45 gartland was worst, that my friend is why he was taken off

still a poor choice from the manager

[Dennistoun Saint]

No doubt? Debatable.

I stand corrected Jags! Little doubt. :wink:

[saintee4life]

it turned out that way

[Radford 72]

Those that watched on TV, who scored our second?

[Jags Ya Bas!]

So self-aware in that he knows when things are not working.
That might be the case soulful, but does he have the tactical nous to make changes for the better?

[saint87]

well take a look at the first goal in the lead up to it it was gartlands mistake. yes ando went on to have a stinker but outa the two in the first 45 gartland was worst, that my friend is why he was taken off


sorry but gartland is better than ando, ando cost us the game no point in moving him into the middle he had a bad game from the start. Shouldnt have changed the centre of defence!! i understand what your saying but at the end of the day it was down to andos stupid mistake and dels for playing him in a position he does not play in.

[saint87]

Those that watched on TV, who scored our second?


on the saints website it was homer

[geoff was right!!]

Those that watched on TV, who scored our second?

They gave it as a Thompson o.g

[Radford 72]

That might be the case soulful, but does he have the tactical nous to make changes for the better?
Is that not what we witnessed today? His last two subs combined for both our goals.

[Jags Ya Bas!]

Those that watched on TV, who scored our second?

Deflected in from a Millar shot, missed who it came off, though.

[Radford 72]

They gave it as a Thompson o.g
Christ, he has made a career out of scoring own goals against us. That's at least his third.

[Jags Ya Bas!]

Is that not what we witnessed today? His last two subs combined for both our goals.

And yet his decision to keep a player on effectively cost your side a point, if what has been typed here is to be believed.

[patsy]

it turned out that way

am not moaning because gartland was taken off but because ando stayed on his confidence must have been low. where is kinniburgh? whats the point of getting him on loan?

[Radford 72]

And yet his decision to keep a player on effectively cost your side a point, if what has been typed here is to be believed.
He had to leave on of them on though! Both Gartland and Anderson (and Rutkiewicz and Irvine, to be fair) had a poor first half but you can't hook all four. There's only so much the manager can do.

He has many faults but his ability to read and change a game isn't one. It's one of his best attributes.

[soulfulsaint]

That might be the case soulful, but does he have the tactical nous to make changes for the better?

Well his decisions got us back into a game we are 2-0 down in so yes. Good to have you back JYB - alas you forget they beat you by a greater margin thus assisting our goal difference. I'll buy you a drink at 208 after Morton game, when my glass will flow over.

[silver_blue]

am not moaning because gartland was taken off but because ando stayed on his confidence must have been low. where is kinniburgh? whats the point of getting him on loan?

Nothing to do with confidence the 2nd goal. Shocking defending. Dobbie blind sided him but surely he could have got a shout. Even on a pixellated zattoo screen the last two goals were just lack of communication.

Hopefully Caff back next week. We still need two wins. or 1 win and two draws to go up on GD if Thistle win 3 from 3.

[Jags Ya Bas!]

He has many faults but his ability to read and change a game isn't one. It's one of his best attributes.
I'll take your word for it, because it's something I trust, but listening to some of your fans and reading what they have to say on here would suggest the opposite.

I've lost count of the number of times his substitutions or his decision to tinker with your formation has been blamed for the loss of points. The game against us at McDiarmid being a recent example.

[soulfulsaint]

Nothing to do with confidence the 2nd goal. Shocking defending. Dobbie blind sided him but surely he could have got a shout. Even on a pixellated zattoo screen the last two goals were just lack of communication.

Hopefully Caff back next week. We still need two wins. or 1 win and two draws to go up on GD if Thistle win 3 from 3.

That's a hell of a big if - have you looked at the scores this season

[SJC]

Jesus, what a disaster that game was, we couldn't have done any more to gift QOS the points

Moon missed an open goal, Hardie missed from 7 yards out and Anderson couldn't have done any worse if he tried to

We're still on for a win but the game at Dens is now essentially a must win game, I don't fancy us winning against Morton at home

[Sainteesean]

for the record, and if there was an argument.

i think st mirren are better than st johnstone at the moment..

[Jags Ya Bas!]

alas you forget they beat you by a greater margin thus assisting our goal difference.
:confused:

Every result that's cost us the opportunity to claw back league leaders or seize the initiative this season is painfully etched on my brain.

[Radford 72]

I'll take your word for it, because it's something I trust, but listening to some of your fans and reading what they have to say on here would suggest the opposite.

I've lost count of the number of times his substitutions or his decision to tinker with your formation has been blamed for the loss of points. The game against us at McDiarmid being a recent example.
That was actually a very rare example of him changing something for the worse during a match. His tinkering is usually done before the match, so it's changes rather than substitutions that are the problem.

Comes back to what I said about it being nice if he could get his starting XI right.

[silver_blue]

That's a hell of a big if - have you looked at the scores this season

Fair point as I think Livvy are due something next week. Also Airdrie will still be fighting to avoid automatic relegation at Firhill the next week. I see them dropping two points from these games.

[Jags Ya Bas!]

That's a hell of a big if - have you looked at the scores this season

01/11/08 - Partick Thistle 2-0 Queen of the South
08/11/08 - Partick Thistle 2-0 Clyde
22/11/08 - Partick Thistle 2-1 Livingston

:wink:

Done for comedic affect, but it actually serves to highlight your point. We have to go back to November to pinpoint a three-win run for Thistle. The one and only time it happened during the season.

The league's been over for a long time now.

[soulfulsaint]

for the record, and if there was an argument.

i think st mirren are better than st johnstone at the moment..

Unfortunately this forum is not 'the record' Sean the record books are and they show that the last time we played them we royally pumped them - and with some stylish goals too.

[SJC]

for the record, and if there was an argument.

i think st mirren are better than st johnstone at the moment..

Based on what exactly?

No difference at all

[soulfulsaint]

01/11/08 - Partick Thistle 2-0 Queen of the South
08/11/08 - Partick Thistle 2-0 Clyde
22/11/08 - Partick Thistle 2-1 Livingston

:wink:

Done for comedic affect, but it actually serves to highlight your point. We have to go back to November to pinpoint a three-win run for Thistle. The one and only time it happened during the season.

The league's been over for a long time now.

...are you trying to lure me into a false sense of security again.?

[Calypso Kid]

St Mirren are well ahead of us in my opinion. They also have in Dorman a player capable of changing a game. I think we lack that individual brilliance. Although in fairness the Murn struck gold with Dorman and it's a matter of time before he shifts to pastures new.

[Jags Ya Bas!]

...are you trying to lure me into a false sense of security again.?
I need more than just your good self to display a degree of complacency, unfortunately.

[Sainteesean]

Jesus Saints Fans it was just my opinion haha.

i think if we were in the spl with this same team we would be in a lower (albeitclose) position than them. and i recon we will finish behind them next season.

i would hope not right enough.

[SJC]

St Mirren are well ahead of us in my opinion. They also have in Dorman a player capable of changing a game. I think we lack that individual brilliance. Although in fairness the Murn struck gold with Dorman and it's a matter of time before he shifts to pastures new.

Good god, I know the sun was out today but it wasn't warm enough to bring on sunstroke was it?!

[Calypso Kid]

Good god, I know the sun was out today but it wasn't warm enough to bring on sunstroke was it?!

Not quite. It didn't blind me to the level of shite that was taking place on the pitch either.

[Sainteesean]

Good god, I know the sun was out today but it wasn't warm enough to bring on sunstroke was it?!

i agree with him.

[Jags Ya Bas!]

St Mirren are well ahead of us in my opinion. They also have in Dorman a player capable of changing a game. I think we lack that individual brilliance. Although in fairness the Murn struck gold with Dorman and it's a matter of time before he shifts to pastures new.
A midfield playmaker and goalscorer is exactly what you're lacking. Sheerin's displayed some breathtaking moments of skill this season, but age and, with it, consistency is against him. You'd be romping it if you possessed a creative midfield player in the Harkins mold.