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208saint
25-11-2005, 09:37 PM
Due to the insistence of Hazel that the Dobster is cuddly rather than a couple of fish suppers over his ideal playing weight, I feel that it was time for the fans to have their say.

Needless to say after a week Hazel will have to change her signature to reflect reality. C'mon Saintees let's be avin ya!!!!!!

Hazel1884
25-11-2005, 10:14 PM
2-1 get it up ye bawjaws!!!

Mon the dobster!

Kyle
26-11-2005, 12:48 AM
Wouldn't say he was fat


More festively plump.

Tranmere Saintee
26-11-2005, 08:04 AM
Is this a comparison thing :wink:

Compared with quite a few of us on here he is definitely a 'lean, mean fighting machine', but compared with OC he is a 'double barrel of lard'. :***:

Das Rave
26-11-2005, 01:16 PM
Seeing him play, he is a fat, slow tub of goo.
I used to think he needed a break, now I realise he needs a break FROM EATING!!

Calinho
26-11-2005, 01:18 PM
ahh here comes the chunk monster!

blueheaven
26-11-2005, 01:22 PM
I predict a diet!

Hazel1884
28-11-2005, 11:01 AM
Harsh

chopper
28-11-2005, 11:06 AM
Not that there is anything wrong with being a couple of haddock suppers above the ideal fighting weight :wink: , for a pro footballer to be like Dobbie, having "been worked really hard by Coyle in training every day" (quote Hazel last week), questions need be asked.

However, he would still have done a better job than Coyle on Saturday!!!

Hazel1884
28-11-2005, 11:56 AM
"been worked really hard by Coyle in training every day" (quote Hazel last week)

When did i say that?

I said about the fact he was made to run home from Kilgraston...then mentioned that Coyle was giving him some unfair criticism on thepitch at Gayfield. That is all.

Broggy Man
28-11-2005, 12:08 PM
Not that there is anything wrong with being a couple of haddock suppers above the ideal fighting weight :wink: , for a pro footballer to be like Dobbie, having "been worked really hard by Coyle in training every day" (quote Hazel last week), questions need be asked.

However, he would still have done a better job than Coyle on Saturday!!!
Chopper that is a good point although i assume he was injured. Coyle was shocking on saturday looked well off the pace and his constant moaning almost reulted in me offering him the seat behind me in the east stand. From what i saw i would have had doris on from the start but back to the Dobbie thing i would persevere with him he is a good player his touch for some reason has deserted him but i think he needs a run in the team without the moaners berating him every time he comes off second best in a challange and for gods sake stop punting high balls at him...

blueheaven
28-11-2005, 12:16 PM
To be honest I'm not even that sure it's Dobbie's weight/fitness that's the problem. Let's face it, he wasn't exactly svelte when he was playing well for us at the end of last season or at the beginning of this one. I think it's his confidence that's low, for whatever reason, and it's badly affecting his form. I think this is shown by the fact that, when he was flying high one of his trademarks used to be his willingness to shoot from anywhere. His long-rangers always looked dangerous and added a different dimension to our game. In his last few appearances, he's been in positions where the previous Dobbie would have had a shot, but he's passed the ball on instead. When a striker starts looking reluctant to have a shot at goal I don't think it's fitness that's at the root of the problem. If Coyle's constantly having a go at him about his weight, could this be denting his confidence?

Baiggers
28-11-2005, 01:11 PM
Not heard anything about Kilgraston but I know that pre/at the start of the season Coyle would run back to McDiarmid with Dobbie after morning training at the Inch.[/b]

Hazel1884
28-11-2005, 01:18 PM
I said about the fact he was made to run home from Kilgraston.
Just Dobbie was made to do this? I'd hazard a guess that his confidence will be pretty low then (especially if all the stick he was getting from Owen at Gayfield is the norm). Basically I'm agreeing with Gary but I'd be disappointed if these stories are true as it's tantamount to bullying the guy!

Yes, i had heard he went to ge ton the minibus home and Coyle was like where do you think your going, you're running home with me...so of Owen and Stephen went jogging all the way back to Perth.

He is singled out for it because of his size, but there's a damn good few of them who could be at better fitness than they are just now!

(and before anyone says rich coming from you, i am (clearly) not supposed to be an athlete!!!)

Would you not say some of Copyle's criticism aimed at Dobbie at Gayfield was a bit over the mark sometimes? I thought there was things he was getting the blame for that Coyle was clearly the one in the wrong over.

chopper
28-11-2005, 01:34 PM
"been worked really hard by Coyle in training every day" (quote Hazel last week)

When did i say that?
Last week, when I commented on him not being as thin as he possibly should be!!!

Anyway, back to points raised and BH has got it spot on with confidence. We will see tomorrow as I assume Coyle, Doris and Dobbie will be in the reserves line up against East Fife.

Broggy, Dobbie was not injured - he was in the stand because he had been dropped from the squad - he still had his bag with him that he brought to the game.

Broggy Man
28-11-2005, 01:47 PM
Broggy, Dobbie was not injured - he was in the stand because he had been dropped from the squad - he still had his bag with him that he brought to the game.

That being the case Chopper I'm pretty disapointed at OC unless there is ofcourse something we dont know. Dobbie even performing under par would have brought more to the game in ten mins than OC did in his entire appearance :shock:

Hazel1884
28-11-2005, 01:49 PM
Do he didn't have a hamstring injury at all then?

Are you sure he didn't have a fitness test pre match?

chopper
28-11-2005, 02:07 PM
Do he didn't have a hamstring injury at all then?

Are you sure he didn't have a fitness test pre match?

Well he was walking fine down the stairs and didn't mention it when asking why he wasn't out there coming down the stairs at half time (it was one behind the other rather than both squeezing onto the same stair :***: )

chopper
28-11-2005, 04:27 PM
According to Jim in the Tully, Dobs is still injured - quite surprising as you would expect someone with a hamstring injury to be limping at least slightly :?

Chansey
28-11-2005, 05:29 PM
something dodgy going on me thinks...... :?

chopper
28-11-2005, 06:54 PM
something dodgy going on me thinks...... :?

I wouldn't say anything dodgy - he may well have had a fitness test before the game and wasn't going to be risked. After all, hamstrings are the worst injury footballers can half as they never properly recover unless given complete rest for an absolute age.

Chansey
28-11-2005, 07:07 PM
dodgy in the sense that two seperate stories have been picked up, if the stories are to be true of OCs treatment of dobbie, i think this is very poor man management. Oc can't moan at anyone at present time IMO.

lethamsaintee
28-11-2005, 07:15 PM
dobbie is a big fat useless, cuddly bear.
seroiusly hes a fat bugger and is also lazy and useless.

erchie
28-11-2005, 08:07 PM
rotund is the word we are looking for here ! :P

Tranmere Saintee
28-11-2005, 08:09 PM
IMHO Dobs looks slimmer and fitter now than when he first arrived at the club, but is playing the worst football of his career here.

From what I have witnessed personally at games, occasional training sessions etc, Dobs & OC do not get on, which is unfortunate for both parties and even more so for us as a club.

I am positive that Dobs has suffered a total break down in confidence, just like 99% of us would do if we suffered constant criticism. I am a great fan of OC but I personally feel he is wrong in his treatment of Dobs, unless there is something we don't know about, and I find that hard to believe with the amount of moles we have on this site :wink:

Hazel1884
29-11-2005, 10:03 AM
Mon the dobster!!!!!

Kevin
29-11-2005, 10:22 AM
Oc can't moan at anyone at present time IMO.

Quite agree Rory, after Saturday's performance I hope OC also took note of his playing on the video he made the team sit and watch. In my mind, it was not what I had expected and he looked like a lost kid playing with the big boys :?

fifefan
29-11-2005, 10:34 PM
More than once this season Dobbie has looked slower than Chris Hay. Only problem is that Chris Hay scored often if he ever made it near the goal

208saint
04-12-2005, 03:42 PM
Come on then Hazie, let's be having a change of signature from you. The public have spoken Dobbie is officially a fat git.

Hazel1884
04-12-2005, 07:13 PM
If you would care to pay attention bawjaws, you would see Gezzy that a change of signature happened a while ago!

Hazel1884
08-12-2005, 05:27 PM
I hope a friend of mine doesn't mind me using this pic as an example (i didn't see any copyright on the disc! :wink: )

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/hazel1884/OpenDay2005_0148.jpg

This proves that at the start of the seaosn when he was getting a game that Mr Dobbie was in fine shape and was losing the weight - he stops playing in the first team and strangely enough he becomes a "fat git" (as you so kindly put it, Gezzy!)

Coincidence? I think not!

If there's ever proof needed that reserve games may not be needed as a challenge but to keep the fitness up that is needed.

You wil all eat your words sooner rather than later (although it may be with another team :cry: )

OOoooh the Dobster! oooooooh the Dobster! :wink:

lethamsaintee
08-12-2005, 08:41 PM
I hope a friend of mine doesn't mind me using this pic as an example (i didn't see any copyright on the disc! :wink: )

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/hazel1884/OpenDay2005_0148.jpg

This proves that at the start of the seaosn when he was getting a game that Mr Dobbie was in fine shape and was losing the weight - he stops playing in the first team and strangely enough he becomes a "fat git" (as you so kindly put it, Gezzy!)

Coincidence? I think not!

If there's ever proof needed that reserve games may not be needed as a challenge but to keep the fitness up that is needed.

You wil all eat your words sooner rather than later (although it may be with another team :cry: )

OOoooh the Dobster! oooooooh the Dobster! :wink:

but that photo doesnt show his fat bum!

Hazel1884
08-12-2005, 08:44 PM
but that photo doesnt show his fat bum!

Does the size of his butt really matter?!

lethamsaintee
08-12-2005, 08:45 PM
but that photo doesnt show his fat bum!

Does the size of his butt really matter?!

it does when he is supposed to be a football player!

mainstand
08-12-2005, 09:01 PM
You might well get a surprise and see him starting on Saturday :wink:

lethamsaintee
08-12-2005, 09:03 PM
You might well get a surprise and see him starting on Saturday :wink:

hope not

mainstand
08-12-2005, 09:05 PM
You might well get a surprise and see him starting on Saturday :wink:

hope not

Well you better just stay at home then :wink:

lethamsaintee
08-12-2005, 09:15 PM
You might well get a surprise and see him starting on Saturday :wink:

hope not

Well you better just stay at home then :wink:

cant do that!

Hazel1884
08-12-2005, 09:32 PM
MON THE DOBSTER!!!

He's gonna score all the goals, goals goals!!!

lethamsaintee
08-12-2005, 09:39 PM
MON THE DOBSTER!!!

He's gonna score all the goals, goals goals!!!

i hope you are right, i actually like dobbie but he really gets on my wick sometimes, he seems to let the ball bounce off him all the time, you would think his chub would break it :wink:

MUZZ
08-12-2005, 09:54 PM
who drops out if dobbie starts :?

Hazel1884
08-12-2005, 09:59 PM
who drops out if dobbie starts :?

Henry?

There's not been much news out of mcDiarmid this week!

THE LARK SAINT
19-04-2008, 09:29 PM
I hope a friend of mine doesn't mind me using this pic as an example (i didn't see any copyright on the disc! :wink: )

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y178/hazel1884/OpenDay2005_0148.jpg

This proves that at the start of the seaosn when he was getting a game that Mr Dobbie was in fine shape and was losing the weight - he stops playing in the first team and strangely enough he becomes a "fat git" (as you so kindly put it, Gezzy!)

Coincidence? I think not!

If there's ever proof needed that reserve games may not be needed as a challenge but to keep the fitness up that is needed.

You wil all eat your words sooner rather than later (although it may be with another team :cry: )

OOoooh the Dobster! oooooooh the Dobster! :wink:
Oh how right you were!!!!

slf
19-04-2008, 10:03 PM
fat mean fish supper eatin machine

THE LARK SAINT
19-04-2008, 10:16 PM
fat mean fish supper eatin machine

me or dobbie ?????:wink: