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HeronAddict
20-03-2006, 05:11 PM
Don't know if anyone on here reads World Soccer magazine, but in this month's issue there's a really interesting article on the problems of match fixing in Belgian and Scandinavian football in particular, but also looking at the case of the German referee Robert Hoyzer and other enquiries currently going on in the lower leagues in France and Italy.

The writer points out that the practice is much more common in these leagues where player income is low. It doesn't make any sense for a Premiership player to take the risk of throwing a match given the relatively small amounts of money (in comparison with their wages) on offer. Less attention is also paid to strange results in these leagues and their governing bodies are ill-prepared in regulating the problem.

The main source of income is from far-East Internet betting syndicates trying to manipulate results. For example, £343,000 was bet on a game between St. Truiden and La Louviere in the Belgian First Division last year, and after the scam was uncovered it was found that £120,000 was offered to the La Louviere team to throw the game, which they did.

It goes without saying that an amount of this magnitude would be far more than any first, second of third division player in Scotland would make in the course of the season, so I was wondering if anyone knew of any initatives the SFA have taken to tackle the issue? The article concludes by stating that as national bodies already affected by match-fixing get wise to the issue, the problem is only likely to spread to other countries who are less aware.

I'm not saying that games in Scotland have already been affected, although I suppose you never know, but I definitely think this could certainly be an issue that affects us in the future. I'd personally worry that the SFA's past history suggests they'd rather stick their head in the sand and ignore the issue rather than confronting it.

Indicator
20-03-2006, 05:18 PM
Ach! ye'd never get the OF tae throw matches. :wink:

Dave H
20-03-2006, 10:06 PM
I'd have al look at Gretna first of all :P

they could pay the ref a few £s for favourable decisions... the refs could be at it, not just the players...

chopper
21-03-2006, 08:58 AM
Remember the Ayr v Raith match at the end of the season Ayr got relegated and beat them - was there not a story of someone high up at Raith pumping a quarter mill on Ayr winning?

ST GAZ
21-03-2006, 01:28 PM
Did we not have our very own match fixing scandal ourselves ??

Where our keeper was offered money to throw the match , I'm not 100% but I recall an acticle / confession from the keeper (Derek Robertson springs to mind however I'm probably wrong)

Saint Paul
21-03-2006, 01:33 PM
I am not a moderator, but I would be very carefull what you say here guys.

Just a friendly piece of advice.

Saintkev
21-03-2006, 01:36 PM
Did we not have our very own match fixing scandal ourselves ??

Where our keeper was offered money to throw the match , I'm not 100% but I recall an acticle / confession from the keeper (Derek Robertson springs to mind however I'm probably wrong)

Correct, claimed it in the paper one week, got paid for his story and denied it the very next!!! It was a Saints game v Ayr United.

chopper
21-03-2006, 01:41 PM
I am not a moderator, but I would be very carefull what you say here guys.

Just a friendly piece of advice.

Its OK, I believe the match I am referring to was plastered all over the papers.

Dev
21-03-2006, 02:05 PM
Its OK, I believe the match I am referring to was plastered all over the papers.

From what I recall, the papers only ran with the fact that Betfair or someone similar had noticed unusual betting patterns for this particular match, i.e. people were putting huge amounts of money on a meaningless match. I think that any involvement of directors at either club was simply messageboard rumour, which as we know can be unreliable.

I'm 37.

mark
21-03-2006, 02:09 PM
There is match fixing in Scottish Football, The Referees always make sure the OF get there way

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HeronAddict
21-03-2006, 02:57 PM
I feel the content of this thread kind of illustrates what I was talking about in my original post. A number of examples have been given where there have been rumours of suspicious betting patterns around matches and very strange results, but as far as I know they remain rumours. The Morton example is a case in point-what happened at the end of that season was extremely strange, and the rumours were strong enough to perhaps justify an in-depth investigation by the SFA, yet none was forthcoming.

I think match fixing is exactly the type of issue that could really threaten the future of scottish football, yet the SFA strike me as a body who would rather ignore it in the hope that it just goes away. The interesting thing about the Belgian case is that it took an investigative TV program (funnily enough called Panorama) to uncover the massive level of betting on obscure games and teams, and the money provided to individual players and coaches to throw games. The Belgian FA were completely unprepared to deal with the issue, and Belgian football is now seen to be rife with corruption, even if that is not necessarily the case. It needs strong leadership from a governing body to tackle the problem, and I would not be convinced that the SFA could provide that leadership.

Broon
22-03-2006, 12:43 PM
There have been rumours of it in Scotland. East Stirling beat Elgin City at the tail end of last season (or possibly even the one before) and there was more than a suggestion of foul play.

I remember that one well - £40 down the drain :( :( :(