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  1. 10 points
    Broon

    Taxi for Tommy?

    Let's not be critical of those fans who are shouting for change. They pay their money, they aren't enjoying the football and are entitled to a view. We've now had two stinking runs this season and these runs are becoming frequent. I don't think its fair to drop Tommy yet though, he absolutely deserves a chance to fix it. He quite rightly has a wonderful reputation for building strong, direct, competitive, effective teams that defy stats on possession, expected goals and everything else. He's been a huge success for us even if the product hasn't been the most exciting. This in my opinion has seen him overlooked for many jobs as he's not seen as a progressive, modern manager. This season Tommy has decided to change perception. He's reduced the age of the squad and started adding flair on the wings and up top. It started well, we had a nice balance. The board backed him, he seen more opportunities for success and brought in more attacking players. This, in my opinion, was the mistake. Tommy's teams are built on heart and determination. Too many of the attacking players (Swanson, Mikey, Watt) just don't have those attributes. All can be match winners when things are going well but we've all, including Tommy, seen what can happen to these players when things are not. Swanson and Mikey in previous seasons have gone from hero to zero due to off the pitch issues almost overnight. Now we are in a rut. Unbalanced and with very few leaders. Less experience and struggling for form. Tommy doesn't appear to know how to make these attacking players effective without exposing the defence. He has failed to understand the type of midfielder he needs to give better players a platform to play. He's ballsed up but these players are not losers overnight. Tommy now has 7 games to find a system to make it work. If he can't he deserves the summer to find the right players to make it work. If after 10 games next season he looks to have failed then fair enough, maybe it may be time before things get too bad but let's not shit the bed and become a Dundee or a Dundee Utd. We all make mistakes, Tommy has, now it's his job to fix it. But just remember, the players need to step up here too. 11 players cross that white line on a Saturday. Tommy isn't telling them to punt the ball 80 yards in the direction they are facing every time they get the ball. They should be hurting and embarrassed and we should be seeing a reaction. If they don't, they won't have a job much longer.
  2. 6 points
    Radford 72

    Taxi for Tommy?

    We won on Wednesday and the manager criticised the performance. His job though is, whether folk like it or not, to keep the club in the Premiership. We can change the manager but that target won't be altered. Anything on top of that is a bonus. This manager has brought us four top six finishes, three European campaigns and a Scottish Cup. Things aren't going so well now and there will be a point he can't rely on past success but I really don't understand the mindset of those wishing that man away. I'm under no illusion that we don't play great football a lot of time but I'm not prepared to blindly bin a manager that has brought success in the hope of replacing him with someone that will replicate that with flowing football, on a budget bigger than only two or three other clubs in the division. Can anyone come up with even one name of an obvious candidate to replace Tommy Wright? If not an obvious candidate then are we really willing to gamble on replacing a manager that has never come close to getting the club relegated, which to go back the the original point, is what his remit is to avoid every season.
  3. 4 points
    Cagey

    Motherwell v St Johnstone 30/3/2019

    As I started the last game thread & we won for the first time in an eternity I feel it is incumbent on me to start this one & hope the luck continues.
  4. 4 points
    Radford 72

    Taxi for Tommy?

    I didn't realise that changing manager was guaranteed to bring exciting football. If I'd known that I'd have signed up to the Tommy Out Club ages ago. Silly me. Maybe we could bring in Neil McCann, he played good football apparently. The idea that fans that can't be bothered supporting the team during the most successful prolonged spell in the club's history will come flocking back if we pass the football a bit better is as hilarious as it is naive.
  5. 4 points
    What is the next village after Methven and Crieff? Asking for a friend.
  6. 4 points
    Last night's 3 points means we cant finish bottom. That's a relief. Highly unlikely we will finish in the bottom 3. A lot of league position cash to play for berween now and the end of the season. Team will be under pressure to get as many points as possible as bonus money will depend on league position. Currently averaging just one goal a game which is anti entertainment. Ability to score more than once in a game has deserted us. Need to find the net again and regain some confidence as we must not carry current form into next season. Season ticket sales will be brutal unless fans have something to get excited about before the end of the season. There is every chance we could end up being the team to relegate one of the bottom 3 although expect bottom place to come from current bottom 2. 3 months ago the door was open to top 4, door is now open to bottom 4. Saturdays game is massive, we can't control what Hibs do on Friday we just need to keep winning. The situation with our Captain has not been handled well, he should be dropped. Clearly not going to be here next year so stick him in the reserves now and give Gordon a run. The FCU has been a huge loss, could really do with a big vocal backing and decent atmosphere v Dundee next week, average fan age in East Stand has shot up this year, we need to find a way to get the young team back or another generation of supporters will be gone for ever which is soul destroying.
  7. 4 points
    HOODLUM65

    Saints v Saints 16/3/2019

    I must be the only one who enjoyed the time wasting at the corner flag in injury time to run down the clock. Must have been the most we passed to our own players AND retained possession. At least the Fakes could not score from there. As said Joe , Foster and Tanser were poor. Muzz floated about , pointing to others to cover opponents while he contributed little. Pass marks to Kane , Callachan , Gordon & Kerr. Also Zander for keeping his eyes on the ball to save the penalty with his feet , despite diving to his right. Just seen the sending off on tv, which was fully deserved , as the guy caught Foster on his shin which could have been a leg breaker. Summing up 2nd half was brutal , but hey-ho a win is better than a brilliant performance and end up losing. While St. Midden tried to play the ball to feet and looked the better side in the 2nd half , they are where they are , because their shooting was woeful.
  8. 3 points
    Some fair questions.... Here's my opinions for what they are worth. 1. I think any club has the right to aim higher than their station and so do the fans, ultimately we have achieved fantastic success for a club with our budget over the past ten seasons and it can be easy to forget that the tip six is not a god-given right. At the same time this season it looks like our chairman has fully backed the gaffer in the market. We had a very good summer and winter window and added some real quality names. We also have one of the most promising youngsters I've ever seen in a Saints top... Add it all together and I must say I thought we would surprise everyone and comfortably get into the top six. 2. Tommy tends to be results driven. His safety first mentality has served him very well in the past and the truth is will most likely always get him enough points to pass the 10th or above minimum target. I believe a HUGE aspect of our poorer play is the fact he insists on playing a central midfielder that is poor when we are in possession (many totally disagree with me and see the major benefits that Murray Davidson can bring to the side). I'd argue the biggest loss to our side over the last couple seasons has been Chris Millar- his ability to take a ball in tight situations and help our defenders make a simple pass was a huge part of our game. There is certain players Tommy really trusts and I believe they let him down at times with poor performances. 3. MOH is a player he has worked with before and is capable (when fit) of being a very good option for us upfront or on the wing. He has pace and if he can reproduce old form will be a major addition. Goss was an attempt at bringing in a player that can retain possession and pick a pass. He may well be that player but is in and out the side and it's hard to tell if he is a good addition for the long term. Bell was a back-up signing. 4. If a young player proves he is up to the task Tommy will play them. Jason Kerr and Stevie May are the prime example of that. I do believe Liam Gordon is ready to play every week and with Joe's form I'd like to see that happen starting Wednesday. Give him a chance to stake his claim for next season as our starting CB. I don't watch the reserves but from what I hear no one else seems to be better than what we already have. We have quite a large squad with established pros- there is always alternate options. 5. Maybe they ain't good enough or maybe Tommy views it as too much of a risk. 6. 101 reasons. Ultimately Perth has proven time after time they will only turn up on glory days- the rest of the time the majority have other things they want to do with their time. I honestly believe a saints team playing free flowing football and getting in amongst the European places would still not see the attendance go up much. 7. Just the way it is.... I personally wouldn't be calling for his head unless we were relegated. I can't think of a single name that I would want to replace him that I 100% believe would be better than what we have. I have family that are Charlton fans and attended games when they were calling for Alan Curbishleys head..... They needed to take the next step up.... They got rid and we all know what happened there. I try not to let a run of results turn my opinion one way or the other- I prefer to take a longer term view. The squad we have is decent, it just needs rebalanced a little in the summer.
  9. 3 points
    Wendy Saints

    Danny Swanson

    Was sad to read this as I think in general he battles with his demons depression wise. I too saw the documentary and he came across as a good soul, certainly not a thug anyway, just someone looking out for his chum. Newspapers in general never let the truth get in the way of a good story (I have personal experience of how low the press will stoop... they don't get the tag gutter press for nothing) Even if he had squared up to a bouncer I am wondering what part of the bouncers knee he could have damaged ;-) I think on each of his stints with Saints he's done ok for us so I don't understand folk wanting to write him off so quickly, certainly this stint he has hardly been given a chance, and anyway a team struggling isn't one I think his talents would thrive in.
  10. 3 points
    sevcozombie2

    Player Contracts + Transfers

    Jamie McKenzie age 19 midfield workhorse never gives a player a second on the ball . cammy ballantyne age 19 deep lying midfielder been on loan at BC GLASGOW Euan o Reilly age 19 right wing speed merchant on loan BC GLASGOW SHAUN STRUTHERS AGE 19 STRIKER BEEN ON LOAN AT BC GLASGOW JOHN ROBERTSON AGE 17 STRIKER GOOD EYE FOR GOAL FAST AND STRONG JORDAN BOAG AGE 17 DEFENDER BIG AND STRONG EGGY LEFT BACK/CENTER HALF ,AGE 17 CAPPED FOR SCOTLAND KYLE GREEN AGE 18 ,CENTER MIDFIELD /OR A NUMBER 10 ,TECHNICALLY VERY GOOD CAN SEE A PASS MOST ASSISTS AT 17S AND 18S What do these lads all have in common, well a couple of things actually ,firstly they were all lead to believe by the football authorities in Scotland that by getting rid of the twenties and bringing in the reserves that this would help their pathway to first team football ,not the case as there is so few games and what games their is saints put quite a few first teamers in so these boys find themselves out the squad or on the bench to guys that you can see are not interested in playing and are defo not interested in helping the young ones ,not all of them are like that and i am sure as avid fans you'll no what ones i am on about. secondly they are all out of contract at the end of the season and still do not know if they will be offered a new one or not ,one reason for this is that saints may not be putting in a reserve side this year and i cant see it going back to under 20s .so if this is the case that means that after 18s there will be no pathway to the 1st team unless you are so good or they set up a loan system with an affiliated club or junior clubs . Marky Munro age 18 right back very good defender Oliver Hamilton age 17 striker ,good finisher very fast top goalscorer for 17s and leading scorer for 18s both on two year deals olly will go on to his last year next season . Jordan northcott age 16 left midfielder ,this lad has springs in his boots can jump so high ,very fast also a good finisher ,played most 18 games this season and most reserve games as well and now on bench for first team . There are a couple of others but i do not know there names ,bottom line is these boys above are all very good but raw but are not given the chance like other clubs do with their youth and may all be on the way out apart from the last 3 . if the club always does it budget on finishing tenth in the league why did they bring in those players in January ,would it not have been better to blend some of those youth players in and give them a chance and they might make some good money for saints in the future . so the youth is there and they are very good
  11. 3 points
    A few thoughts from Saturday. I thought we played pretty well in parts. The game had the feel of a stalemate but we were certainly the more likely to be winners until 'Well scored and then that was it - you just knew we weren't coming back. Their first goal was really tidy and the sort of quality that changes games and that was the case. Joe has been taking a bit of flack recently for his performances but I thought he looked solid enough despite a few stray passes; his effort was not in question. Kerr looks better every time I see him and we really need to capitalize on having such a solid defender and find a way to build around him. Goss looked good in parts but I don't think he has done enough to suggest we would offer him a contract for the sort of money he would command. Craig was industrious enough and he can still do a job for us next season - his penalty was soft which is unlike him. Kennedy looks to have lost a wee bit of spark but it's been a long season and he has been our shinning light in effort and class and he probably needs a break. MOH looks a shadow of the player he was on his past times with us - I hope we aren't paying him huge money! I continually beat the drum for young Kane and do so again he works tirelessly and bullies defenders but he needs a sharp finisher around him to share to the workload and we don't seem to be brave enough to employ that strategy. I felt a bit sorry for Zander - he is a classy keeper and deserves better support from our defense. Worrying form I agree and we will see how far we have fallen on Wednesday - the Dundee defense are as tight as a pair of fishnet panties and if they turn us over we better get ready to be involved a in a real relegation fight next year.
  12. 3 points
    League-wise we're probably about right - Jambos, Hibs, TFOD etc have all spent big. Tommy has been backed but has been IMHO unlucky with his signings - Drey's injury was a big loss and Swanson, Watt, Mikey have failed to live up to their past reputations with us - in fact after today Mikey is the only one I'd think about maybe keeping. Tommy has stuck by players but even today the team he put out, if they'd been in form would have been good enough. The lack of confidence in the defence was there to see once we lost the first goal and for a team that's meant to be playing with wingers we singularly failed to play the ball down the wings instead relying on long balls. But Tommy has also stuck with the likes of Muzz or Swanson when the likes of Alston (who I thought has improved a lot this year) is being frozen out. Tommy still has my backing - his dealings in the transfer market were all met with backing here and you could argue its the ones that weren't hyped up that have given a better return, Wright, Kennedy and Callachan. But he has to I think be seen to be a lot angrier with the players in public - the fans know what we've seen isn't good enough, in terms of effort at least and while Tommy may be raging in the background I think a public display of anger might also help. As for the rest of the season we're going to be bottom six. So we identify who is staying next year - anyone who hasn't renewed their contract gets a deadline put to them. And we play those players - if that means Watt, Joe etc vanish from some matchday squads so be it - the fans need to see every player given a chance.
  13. 3 points
    RandomGuy

    Motherwell v St Johnstone 30/3/2019

    I've recorded that as a pass, tbh.
  14. 3 points
    ejksjfc

    Saints v Saints 16/3/2019

    I fully understand why people would boo when teams take the ball into the corner, but we did it very well on Wednesday, and at the end of the day no matter how boring it was it was the right thing to do.
  15. 3 points
    sixties saintee

    WAP

    She has been forcibily retired.
  16. 3 points
    Fair point. McLeish should certainly get his cards. We have 8 games left in this Group and there is no way we are going to improve on the play off place we already have in the bank. An excellent chance for a new management team to bed itself in without the need to organise the usual meaningless friendlies.
  17. 2 points
    It is with sadness that I announce the passing away of Davy (soapy) Soutar , lifelong saintee who died on his 80th birthday on Friday 22nd March. For all who know there is a bus trip round Fife for young?? Soutar,s 50th on Saturday 30th March, this is still going ahead and will now be also a celebration of Soapy,s life. Anyone fancy a day out contact Caley Bar in Perth for tickets. I hear the song MY OLD MAN,S A DUSTMAN will trump the day.
  18. 2 points
    PauloPerth

    Danny Swanson

    Agree with both of you. I'm quite surprised at how quickly Saints fans are calling on punting Swanson and O'Halloran. The same folk will be raving about them next season if they're on form and we're doing well. If they were new players we knew nothing about and just didn't cut it then fair enough. But they're not. We know they can both offer a lot going forward. Neither returned to us particularly fit, are playing in a struggling team, and not getting any run of games to find form. They still need to do a lot better, there's no doubt. Yes some people can claim Saints shouldn't have re-signed them after they chose to leave, but we did and both are Saints players now. Time they got a wee bit of support and encouragement.
  19. 2 points
    7 is easy. Sevco sack managers if they fail to in a major trophy for about 20 minutes, for understandable reasons. Tommy won us our only ever major trophy (plus Euro runs, top six finishes). He could probably shag the chairman’s wife at half time on the centre spot with that day’s takings in his back pocket and keep his job. He is a God. Some younger fans might have only known relative success at Saints and have high expectations. Those of us who have longer memories of dark, seemingly endless bottom division days however are more patient. Anyone calling for a change should consider who the hell we could get for the same money - probably much less in reality - who would do a better job.
  20. 2 points
    Ando the goal machine at it again
  21. 2 points
    Plenty of folk haven't liked us over the years but also seems even more folk don't know us. Question on Pointless at teatime last night including Saints. 100 folk asked which town/City do the following football teams come from: Ajax, Aston Villa, Everton, Fenerbache, Flamengo, Juventus, St Johnstone. Points scored were, Amsterdam 27, Birmingham 51, Liverpool 59, Istanbul 10, Rio De Janeiro 7, Turin 18, Perth 7. Pretty shocking result in 135 years of marketing the team with Perth. Always thought a lot more could be done to link Perth with St Johnstone. We don't have to change the name to Perth St Johnstone but the club and the City could do a lot more together to promote the St Johnstone brand and our home The Fair City. To be honest I was surprised we even got 7, definitely an opportunity here for joint promotion of City and Club. Just wonder if relations between Club and City could be better. As much as I respect our history I would also be very proud to wear Saints casual wear etc that was Perth St Johnstone themed.
  22. 2 points
    Cagey

    Saints v Saints 16/3/2019

    I think it was"all over the place" more than back 4. Whilst I am on. Why the feck were the fans in east stand booing when we were keeping ball in corner. We have been caught out with breakaways late in games before & we NEEDED that win.
  23. 2 points
    Abernethy Saint

    Scotland's shame

    The problem for the small clubs like Saints is that the chickenshits at the SFA are likely to punish them rather than the two clubs where perhaps 80% of the problems occur, as this excellent article explains as part of a wider discussion of the state of the game in Scotland: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47697708
  24. 2 points
    See this is almost inevitable and yet Tommy clings on in hope and plays Joe, letting a very capable, contracted for next season, Liam Gordon sit about doing **** all. Grow a ****ing set you big Irish b****** and tell Joe to sign on or **** off, thanks.
  25. 2 points
    Pat McGroin

    WAP

    I would also sponsor the site. Already toying with buying an advertising board at the club for my business. I only view the site on my iPhone.