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  1. Unless you've seen the guy play, I find this sort of view absolutely baffling. As long as the club have done their homework and actually watched him (like I suspect they didn't do with Bair), then I don't see what the problem is. For comparison, he's playing at the same level in the English pyramid that Dipo Akinyemi had spent much of his career at before signing for Ayr United. When Akinyemi started banging in goals for Ayr, there were a lot of people on here suggesting we try to sign him, and also asking why it is that Saints never seem able to find/attract players like that. Now we're doing exactly that and people are already flying off the handle about how bad the player apparently is. I'm really struggling to understand how people can form such strong opinions about guys they've presumably never seen play or even heard of. Surely we've all been following football for long enough to understand that there are gems to be found at lower levels.
    15 points
  2. blueheaven

    What now

    Think there's a bit of a danger at the moment of a lot of people starting to panic and that's really not going to help matters. Have already seen a lot of the usual suspects on social media calling for the manager's head and just find it almost laughable that that is some people's solution to absolutely everything (we used to get the same types calling for Tommy Wright's head any time we had a bad run of results, which seems even crazier now than it did then). This is why the idea of fan ownership worries me: we'd be starting from fresh with a new manager every couple of weeks if some of our fans had their way. I had a lot of reservations about appointing MacLean but he's in the job now and I think the club has a responsibility to stand by him, and the fans should unite as much as possible in getting behind him and not turning on the players during matches. It's just way too early in the season, and in Macca's reign, to do anything else. He clearly knows that what we're seeing right now isn't good enough, he's trying to implement a long term plan, he's trying to bring in the right kind of player and he wants to get us playing in a different way. Clearly at the moment it's not happening but did anyone actually expect an overnight turn-around? This is a huge job and even an experienced manager would have found it a major challenge. Obviously this can't be allowed to go on for months and months, and if it starts to look like we're being cut adrift at the bottom of the table then there's going to have to be a big change. But for now I just think the best thing anyone can do - players, fans, coaches, everyone on and off the pitch - is pull in the same direction and make sure the team is supported.
    14 points
  3. blueheaven

    Time For Change

    Let's face it: MacLean should never, ever have been given the job in the first place, let alone been given a three-year deal. There were worrying signs even during his few games as caretaker manager, and handing him a long-term deal off the back of those games was a lazy, short-sighted, unimaginative, cheapskate decision. Once he got the job I was happy to get behind him and give him a chance. I really liked a lot of the things he said, and I think some of his signings were pretty good (Mitov is our best signing in years; Sprangler looks a cracking find; even Smith and Jephcott looked great signings on paper but are obviously yet to deliver). But once the injury crisis ended and he had his own players in place he really needed to prove he could turn his positive words into positive performances and I think Saturday probably confirmed that was never going to happen (despite a slight improvement in the games before that). We desperately needed to make a clean break from the Davidson regime at the end of last season. By not doing that we've wasted more time, wasted more money, blown an absolutely pivotal transfer window, and put ourselves in a position at the bottom of the league table that might not be recoverable. These decisions aren't Macca's fault. They're the club's fault. And I know people will say it's a different board in charge now but I struggle to believe there was no overlap or conversation at the time that would have involved Harris and co. And all of this has been overseen by the same owner. The fact is the various people running the club over the last three or four years have lurched from one bad decision to another and they've let us all down. I know I've said this on here multiple times but this all stems back to not doing enough to keep our best ever manager happy. If Tommy Wright had felt supported and happy in his job, and been given the structure and set-up he was asking for, he'd still be our manager now and we'd probably still be a comfortable mid-table Premiership club enjoying the occasional good Cup run and European qualification. Losing Tommy Wright, and then allowing Callum Davidson to completely dismantle everything Wright took years to build, has completely killed what this club was.
    12 points
  4. Don’t post very often……but needs must . Pains me to say it but McLean and coaching staff need removed now. He was dealt a bad hand but was presumably integral to the squad overhaul despite the fact he had no managerial experience. McLean talk a good game but has simply failed to deliver -whether its recruitment or coaching he has failed. We are almost a third of the way through the season - not even looking like we can win and of course the League Cup was a disaster. Pointless him criticising and threatening players ( that in itself show an serious lack of man management skills given that he cannot change personnel until we are half way through the season), everything points to either they don’t want to play for him, tactics and team selection are wrong or the squad is simply not good enough. My guess is it’s a combination of all of this. At the end of the day the manger and coaches are responsible and to give any hope of avoiding relegation, changes need to happen NOW. What we need is for Geoff Brown preferably or whoever controls the Club to make a clear communication on how the Club plans to resolve the current situation and the timeline for action. As a season ticket holder ( along with my family) it is simply unacceptable that underperformance on so many fronts has persisted for so long. If WAPers agree or otherwise please respond as appropriate. I suppose this is the start of a campaign to give our Club at least a chance to get back to where it can be.
    12 points
  5. Agree with most of what has been written so far, much improved performance last night. With special mentions to Robinson, DJ, Sprangler and Benji who I thought were all excellent. But definitely worth mentioning the performance of Liam Gordon, I thought he was absolutely tremendous, defensively solid and also seemed to spend the night urging the players forward at every opportunity, he even stepped out from defence and played one or two decent forward passes. He's been the subject of a lot of stick this season (some merited, some way over the top) so only fair to acknowledge when he performs well.
    10 points
  6. I normally avoid this place immediately after games but just feeling the need to vent. That was an awful performance today, the worst I've seen under Levein (with the caveat that I missed the Airdrie game). I suppose it's at least saying something that we can be that bad and still not lose, but seriously, what does it say about the overall standard? Derek Adams got it in the neck for taking a pop at the current standard of the league but from what I'm seeing most Saturdays he got it bang on. Combine that with the constant VAR delays and it's all making going to games feel like a massive chore at the moment. In the first half we had three central defenders playing against Theo Bair on his own and yet there were still none of them anywhere near him when he scored. And we're not talking about a good centre-forward here. We're talking about Theo Bair. Second half we were just so painfully static and lacking in energy. I don't know if it's about fitness or effort or coaching or instruction, but we just weren't working hard enough. We ran around when Motherwell had the ball, but as soon as we had possession everyone just stood still. There were points of that game where we were trying to mount attacks and had six or seven players in our own half just wandering up the pitch instead of running forward and looking to get into space. What made it even worse was the manager trying to break the world record for number of central midfielders on the pitch at one time, then fiddling about with their roles every few minutes. The whole lot of them just looked completely confused about where they were supposed to be and what they were supposed to be doing. Then there's that starting line-up. Why drop Sprangler? Why put Max back in the team when he has so little impact (today I often found myself forgetting he was even on the pitch, the game was passing him by so much). Kimpioka looks like he might actually be useful coming on as a sub to stretch tired defences, but based on today he's nowhere near ready to start matches leading the line on his own. Are him and DJ seriously better than Stevie May? I certainly know who'd I'd be choosing to partner Nicky Clark, personally. Levein needs to do so much better than this. I'm fine with being defensive but we need to be organised, find some sort of settled system, and make sure players know their roles and can do them effectively. Stop playing favourites and play our best players in their best positions. He's been allowed to sign players and we have the squad here to be producing far better performances than this.
    10 points
  7. blueheaven

    New Owners

    I often get the impression Saints' response to every idea is to either dismiss it as "we tried that before" or "that wouldn't work". But what alternative suggestions are they generating in-house? Among the people running Saints, who has actual experience of growing a sports/football club and its fanbase in the digital/social media era? Who among our board understands these things and has experience of them? Where do they get fresh ideas from, and how do they implement them? What happened to all the ideas Kirsten Robertson spoke about implementing when she arrived? Kilmarnock published a document this summer where they explained what their attendance targets were year on year and what they'd done to hit those targets. Do Saints have attendance targets, and if so what do they do to hit them? I'm so bored of the Browns using every single public interview as an opportunity to whine about attendances. We've come through over a decade of unprecedented success and our board did barely anything in that period to harness public interest and grow the support. They slept in the run-up to the 2014 Cup final, they slept after it, and then they did the same when we won the Double (although I'll accept that allowances need to be made for that happening during Covid). They allowed our best ever manager to walk away for nothing because they couldn't be bothered to do whatever they had to do to keep him happy. And yet when it's going badly it's never their fault. It's always Perth's fault for not blindly dispatching 10,000 people along to the ground every fortnight to watch a team that for most of the last two/three years has been plummeting rapidly downhill and playing the worst football of the McDiarmid era. Fair City Unity have done more in a year or two to bring in new fans and keep them coming along than the club itself have managed in several decades. Does that not tell them anything?
    10 points
  8. andrew

    January Transfer Window

    I’m surprised that Geoff didn’t take Steve’s potentially legacy destroying reckless behaviour in hand when he was throwing money at Davidson to waste (regardless of Flaherty’s part in it or anyone else he appointed). Great management for decades then almost throw it all away, along with our hard won status in the top flight and as a regular top six side with trophies and European qualifications.
    10 points
  9. Widge

    What now

    I think this is spot on. I think every man and their dog who has a connection with Saints knows the last 2/3 years have been a disaster on and off the pitch for a variety of reasons and it's left us in a really poor position on the pitch to say the least. The running of the club does appear to be improving, based on the outputs, media, etc. as well as the feedback from the open meetings. What we need to collectively do is essentially move past the Davidson/Flaherty era and try and push the team on the pitch on as far as we can (with the caveat that there is still lingering players who will be around for a while. I'm not yet convinced by MacLean's managerial ability or tactical nous yet, far from it. What I can get behind is his transfer strategy (even if has been forced upon him), as well as his willingness to use younger players (again forced and maybe their not good enough). One thing that saints fans do and did even throughout Davidson's worst spells was back the team and show support. It's difficult for sure when you see what's going on, on the pitch, but ultimately the only way we get out this slump and mess that we've created is to try and be positive as a fanbase, as a club and hopefully that transfers onto the pitch in the form of some fight and spirit, as there seems to be a massive negative cloud over the whole stadium right now. That cloud is probably entirely fair as well, it's been self inflicted, but come Saturday, first game of the league season you're going to have 3500 Hearts fans making a lot of noise, it won't do the Saints team any good to get a tepid and lukewarm reception, despite it being warranted. It's frustrating that the fans once again need to get the players going and get a reaction, when it's about time they do the opposite. Quite frankly there are a large number in our squad who owe the fans big time.
    10 points
  10. If we go down the GMS route, we would have been as well keeping Wotherspoon.
    10 points
  11. SlickDT

    Macca for next manager

    The more I have thought about Macca being made manager- the more I have warmed to it. Previously I would of liked someone like Jody Morris, in the hope he had great contacts down south and could use his links with friends, etc. But as we can see from his short-time with Swindon, he is also a newbie that would be a risk. Ultimately there is a ton of change coming at the club. It could well be that we wont see the likes of Muzz, Booth, Kane, MOH and in my opinion our most successful ever Saints player Spoony next season. We have a new board in place, which we have no idea about how long will be in place and when/if we will get new owners. Callum has left us with an inflated squad- full of players that quite simply aren't good enough or are nearing the end of their careers. I don't know if Macca and Liam have the ability/contacts to bring in the right players for a major rebuild. What they do know is what has worked for the club over the past decade. They know the type of team mates that brought success to the club and the standards that were set on the pitch. I also believe they care for the club and will give everything they have to make it work At a time with so much change I want to know we have a coaching team that drills into the new players/youngsters stepping up, just how important it is that a team representing St Johnstone will give it 100% as a minimum. I can accept some poor displays and mistakes from an inexperienced management team, as long as there is clear effort and a desire to improve. Any management appointment is likely to be a gamble just now, so why not gamble on guys that have given so much to the club over the past decade. These lads have given so much joy to me as a fan in recent years, so why not back them and get fully behind them now the opportunity has arisen for them to further their careers.
    10 points
  12. Don't know if you go to any of the home games but his style of playing is sucking the life out of the fans including myself the manager of any club picks his own backroom staff otherwise he is just a coach he is also picks the formations the tactics etc he will also tell the grounds man how long he wants the grass cut and how he wants the surface to play (watering etc) on match day's in short he is totally in charge of all things regarding football at the club so the buck stops with him and nobody else so to say clear out the old guard and backroom staff and not him makes you a bit delusional personally think we need a total clear out starting with him
    10 points
  13. Aitchy

    Time for Levein to go

    The rot set in when Davidson and Brown started coming out with stuff about us “just being happy to be in the league” and “avoiding relegation would be a bigger achievement than winning two cups”. An organisations mindset is set by those at the top. Coyle, McInnes, Lomas and Wright were always looking for us to be more ambitious and push us on to the next level.
    9 points
  14. Why was Keltjens dropped yesterday? Why was Gallacher at right wing-back? Why are we even persisting with a wing-back system in the first place when we don't have any wing-backs in our squad? Why are inferior players being picked ahead of Sprangler and May? Why did we waste our precious budget on signing an unneeded player like Connor Smith? Why do we keep signing strikers for a system that seems entirely designed to keep the ball away from them? Why does Max keep being brought onto the pitch in situations he's completely unequipped to make any impact in? Why did we send Kane and Brown out on loan when they'd probably have had roles to play in the team right now? Why have we put a Highland League manager in charge of training? Why did we give Levein a three-year contract when he'd done nothing to earn it? Why have we made three absolutely rotten managerial appointments on the trot? Why couldn't we have just asked Tommy Wright to stay so that everything would have been OK and none of this f**king nightmare would have happened? Absolutely sick of the whole lot of them and I've never, ever felt more disillusioned with this half-arsed mess of a club than I do right now. I can only pray that the prospective new owners were watching very closely and that their first point of business will be to replace Levein and Kirk as an urgent priority.
    9 points
  15. Smarmy Arab

    Levein new manager

    Make no mistake the press pack never forgave him for pointing out the Emperor was naked!
    9 points
  16. I definitely think there's something to be said for rebuilding in a lower league, clearing out the duds, getting back into a winning habit and coming back up with a clean slate. If it was done well/properly it could give the whole club a bit of a new lease of life. I do have major doubts about whether the club would get it right, though. I think one of the things that really depresses me about going down is we've now had 14 consecutive years in the top flight, which is the best spell in our entire history, and we should have been able to carry on building on that and growing gradually stronger and really confirming our place as an established top flight club. Having to go down and start from scratch, yet again, like various yo-yo clubs keep having to do, after everything Tommy Wright and his predecessors had built, just feels like a massive let-down. It's just infuriating to think of how avoidable the decisions that have brought us to this point were. I know some people will say that, for a club of our size, it's inevitable that we'd end up going back down at one point or another - but I really disagree with that.
    9 points
  17. I find it incredible how quickly you've decided to write off our players who have barely played for us yet. You're saying we can't compete with Dundee for loanees but have we not just picked up one of Newcastle's most highly rated youngsters on loan? Beck and Bakayoko both joined Dundee over a month ago and have had time to bed into the Dundee team. Yesterday was Bakayoko's first goal for them so he's not exactly been on fire (in fact I've just noticed he didn't even get credited with yesterday's goal, so he still hasn't scored for them). And let's not forget that these Dundee guys couldn't actually beat us, despite how rotten we were for almost the whole game. You've already decided Robinson's no better than Gallacher, Smith's no better than Ballantyne, Max is apparently better than everyone (even though up until yesterday he'd done very little for us in the opportunities he's been given), and Smith, Costelloe and Turner-Cooke should all never play for us again. Do you not think it's reasonable to suggest that some of these guys might need a little bit of time to settle in and show what they can do? Have you forgotten why we had to go out and sign these players from other clubs, or would you actually be happy with us playing the rest of the season with the team that failed in the League Cup and got walloped by Stirling Albion?
    9 points
  18. A "home" match for me. McLean and MacPherson were present watching from the stand. If they hoped for some to come forward and stake a claim to be involved further, they would have been disappointed. Certainly didn't look happy at the end. Saints contained Chrystal, Ferguson, Max, Steven and Mylchreest who have played for the first team. Some good, a lot indifferent. Two subs, one a goalkeeper. Elgin started on top but Saints came into the game. Some neat passing play and movement but no end product. It was fifteen minutes before we had a shot on target. Hepburn made a meal of a collecting a ball which went to Elgin. He recovered to make a good point-blank block. It delayed Elgin taking the lead by a minute. Poor tackling allowed their player to get into the box near the byline and drill a ball across Hepburn into the far corner. Well taken but there were three opportunities to prevent it, at least. Saints upped their game but moved in disjointed pieces. There were several good opportunities spurned. The second half started with Saints in the ascendancy but again wasteful in front of goal. Most telling was how often the ball broke to an Elgin player as an attack broke down. Their second goal was bad. Poor defending on the right saw a ball in. Hepburn appeared to have it easily but waited for it. The attacker didn't. He went for it and scored. Saints tried to get back, some more pressing, pushing more forward but every gilt-edged chance went outside the goal frame. The good: Liam encouraging, not screaming at the players. Some of the link up play was good. Some skillful players. A lot of endeavour and shouting for the ball (at least at the beginning). Good close control on many occasions. The bad: The finishing. The lack of pace caused so many problems whether defending or attacking. So many woeful passes. High balls we seldom won when passes to feet worked well. Many of the players seemed so similar, in build, pace, there was no diversity of a game plan. Too many were easily knocked from the ball. None looked first team material at the moment. There was no Griffin, McClusky or Davidson to come into the side due to injuries and take the place permanently. This may be because of all the injuries, Saints haven't played or trained as a team. The lack of meaningful football like the reserve league may have hindered their development. Elgin looked fitter, certainly more pace and had a better game plan, supported each other better in moves. Their pitch used to be a quagmire due to it being so close to the River Lossie but it was in excellent shape. So some hope for the future but not for today.
    9 points
  19. Aitchy

    What now

    Davidson, Grieve, Flaherty have all massively contributed towards where we are, but ultimately the decisions to hire all three and keep them at the club as long as they did lies with Steve Brown. History will look kindly upon the great success we had during his tenure, but the last two years of his legacy were a disaster. Moving forwards, I can see no merit in continuously trying to blame certain individuals for the position we are in. We as a support need to get behind the club as much as we can. I realise that’s extremely difficult, particularly when we have just just witnessed one of our worst ever results and we are a few days away from beginning a league campaign with an extremely poor looking squad, but what’s the alternative? Im not suggesting people don’t critique line ups or formations, but getting on players backs at the games and directing drivel at players on social media serves no purpose. When the club decided that Macca was the man they wanted to lead the club, they had no option but to give him a long term contract. It’s been hard enough to sign players and would have been made even harder if we had only given him a one year deal. Players like Mitov and Jephcott would be very unlikely to have moved hundreds of miles to join us if they manager that wanted to sign them was only contracted for a year. It’s not going to be easy, but when we get another two or three permanent players through the door and supplement them with some loans later in the window we will be in a much better place. Added to that, if and it’s a big if, we can get Kane, Clark and MacPherson fit and playing regularly, then that will make a big difference as well.
    9 points
  20. crieffsaintandy

    What now

    The big turning point was 2 years ago, in Europe potential of group stages yer man Davidson makes an absolute erse of it playing a full strength team against United, then turned over by LASK decent outfit but there for the taking if the board had showing any ambition and bought a couple of decent players striker etc could have made millions, irony was spunked big funds on utter crap for Davidson for a year and a half later when everyone and his dog could see Europe group stages were the time to do it, board has been brilliant for years, but severely blinkered with Davidson after the cup wins with basically a Tommy wright team. the transfer window that summer the rot set in, with a chairman who didn’t want anything to do with it.
    9 points
  21. Widge

    Ayr Ayr @@@@ yer Ayr

    We are the 4th longest serving top flight team for a reason and that was based on hard work, commitment and leadership. All qualities that we are sorely lacking in right now. Even going back 2-3 years, you had a squad containing Kerr, Craig, Bryson, Davidson, Spoony, Rooney, etc. who were all vocal, fighters and leaders in their own way. The fact that we can't even figure out if there's a suitable captain at the club anymore tells you a quite serious story. I can see what MacLean is trying to do, but he needs to not only find guys who are talented and fit the right profile, he needs to find leaders both on an off the pitch. Guys to drag a team through when the going gets tough and be the first to step out from the trenches. Both him and Craig have been that guy, so they know the type of person they need, whether we can find it is another matter.
    9 points
  22. blueheaven

    Flaherty

    I was never that sure how much of the stuff that seemed to be poorly handled was driven by Flaherty, and how much of it was just him doing what he was told by Steve Brown. But he seemed to make a really poor job of dealing with the aftermath of the Rangers ticket debacle, in particular, and unfortunately for him I think that's what he's going to be remembered for. Personally I absolutely hated the tone of voice adopted by the club since Guidi's arrival - it felt aloof, pompous and Old Firmy. Really hope that's something we'll see an immediate change in, now that he's gone. I suspect it was probably always the case that the media team would do a better job without him there. Pleased to see quite a few positive changes coming out of the club, in the wake of what has been a long period of negatives.
    9 points
  23. One thing that worked for me at the game, my oldest grandson (10 year old) is a staunch celtic fan (through his dad's family) room decked out with posters etc etc. I've never seen him so excited as he was last Saturday at the game, even trying to join in the singing 😀 so much so he's wanting to return as does his younger sister. Saints need to keep up these kind of initiatives next season
    9 points
  24. blueheaven

    VAR V St.Johnstone

    Hopefully there'll be a gigantic VAR c*ck-up in the final Old Firm game of the season and it costs one of them the title. That's the best chance we have of something actually being done about this mess.
    8 points
  25. Totally unfair. Why not just enjoy the win and not slag of individual players.
    8 points
  26. garydavidson

    McDiarmid Memo

    Great to see a forum member now part of the media team at Saints 🤣 hopefully these two tremendous reporters will see us heading in the correct direction now. Brilliant work from the club.
    8 points
  27. mainstand

    Players out on loan

    @Cagey As @blueheaven says I am still loitering in at various times, just a bit busy these days so don't post
    8 points
  28. Can we just take a moment to appreciate how good Dan Phillips is.
    8 points
  29. 8 points
  30. You love to see it. 👍 Melamed's comment on David Keltjens Instagram announcement of joining us.
    8 points
  31. Spot on. If Phillips can just stick to what he is good at by breaking up the play and playing simple passes, he will be a massive asset for us. Delighted with todays performance. Really good shape and discipline. Mitov was outstanding and will get all the plaudits, but a lot of praise must also go to the likes of McClelland, Olufunwa, Robinson, Costello and particularly Matt Smith. I thought they were all excellent. Todays result will provide a massive boost of confidence to the whole squad, hopefully we can build on it with a win against Dundee next week. The club should be doing as much as possible in the week ahead to promote the game and try to get as many people as possible into McDiarmid.
    8 points
  32. I wonder if the manager will return to a back three for this. I know we've all had enough of that for the past few years but Brown's a doubt at right back, Dare's probably not match fit so converting to a three might be the best option with what we have available. Plus, it might suit Gordon to go back to his preferred middle position in the three with McClelland and Considine either side. Wright and Gallagher are used to playing the wing back role and we could get another body into centre midfield where we've been weak and easily dominated so far this season. Mitov McClelland Gordon Considine McGowan Wright Phillips Ballantyne Gallacher May Jephcott It shores up the defence and midfield a bit which is much needed. The signings have been positive so far and I believe we will get better as time goes on, but we'll need to be patient for a while. If we can grind it out and pick up points here and there for the first half of the season, then I'm confident we can get some momentum going after the winter break. I hope the fans show patience with both the team and the new players as well. Getting on their backs won't help. I feel it's time for us to be the twelfth man and keep the squad positive. And no better time to do this than starting against Hearts and their no doubt noisy following. New league season, here we go. I'm right up for this. COYS!
    8 points
  33. TBH I didn't think the performance was all that different from Saturday's, but this time we didn't take our chances and we were punished by a much better opponent. Lack of options really killed us last night as Macca had *nothing* at his disposal for either moving things around on the pitch or bringing game-changing subs on. I've never seen us look so lacking in depth and really that should have been remedied by this stage. Obviously getting targets in isn't easy but the season has started now and for me we're out of the cup as a direct result of our failure to strengthen quickly and early. Macca gets a bit of leeway in my eyes as he wasn't confirmed as manager until the last game of last season and he's still new to all this, but the whole club just seems to hibernate during much of the summer and that's been apparent for a few years now, and we're now paying the price for that on the pitch. However the coming season goes, the club really needs to learn from this and start preparing *much* earlier.
    8 points
  34. This will be my first live game since before the World Cup break and will also be my last this season (due to another 6 weeks of Intensive hospital treatment) so hopefully it will be as good as my only competitive game last season with the play-off win. Sorry I missed CD bowing out and not sure about our temp manager but am just over the moon about actually getting to a game.
    8 points
  35. Why not though? The club is a shambles from top to bottom. The rot has started with young Broon not wanting the burden of the club in the first place. It's been going on for years and is now coming to climax through his bad choices, be that Flaherty or his predecessor. It was a combination of Broon and Kirsten who ousted Tommy. Then he employs Callum, which his dad had earmarked years ago, which looked okay to begin with but has been sour for the last 18 months at least, but he's taken the step back and washed his hands of the club, and most likely leaving an 80 odd year old to tidy up his mess. Flaherty, McPherson and Davidson are the folk running the club just now, that's about 5 brain cells combined. Then you have the only onsite director Roddy, oaft. Dinnae get me started on that idiot. The meeting should be with the Stevie Brown. Nae **** else.
    8 points
  36. rik2304

    Time Up for Callum?

    I'd start one every day if I thought it would help get rid of Davidson.
    8 points
  37. With Max and Ferguson the future of the midfield is bright...... For the teams that sign them after Davidson refuses to play them.
    8 points
  38. The facts are there for all to see. Out of both cups at the first opportunity, no clean sheets in 18 games, dreadful form (particularly at home), rotten football, no clear pathway for any younger players, yet there seems to be no desire from the powers that be to address all these issues that have been going on now for at least 18 months. Ive seen people mention that as the club is for sale the Browns won’t get rid of Davidson as it would make the club appear to be in disarray to any potential buyer. If we continue with Davidson in charge, things will only get worse. Given our dreadful home form and performances, I would not be surprised if season ticket sales drop dramatically next season if Davidson is still in charge. Get rid of him now, get a new manager in place so that he can assess the squad ahead of the summer transfer window opening. One can only dream…
    8 points
  39. Horrible game to watch, however playing so badly and get a point, will do. Just a word on todays opponents- I hope they get relegated and never darken our door again, anti football , time wasting and falling about 'injured', an absolute disgrace.
    7 points
  40. Have to say I'm in awe of anyone who actually travelled through to that game, in those conditions, on a Wednesday night, two days after Christmas, to pay whatever ridiculous amount it cost to get in, and watch what looked destined to be a crap game. Hats off to you. Years ago I would have been among that small group but I'm at the stage now where it doesn't even cross my mind to consider going to these games. I thought Saints looked relatively comfortable without doing much. There were a couple of fleeting signs of May and Clark looking promising together again, and hopefully that's something we can build on. Interesting to hear Levein's comments about us not being brave enough or taking enough risks. I think some of our players still have an ingrained cautiousness in them that goes back to the Davidson days, and that's proving a difficult attitude to break. I wonder what Eetu Vertainen would have thought of hearing a Saints manager saying we don't try enough things going forward.
    7 points
  41. Second half was a lot better. A missed opportunity in many respects. That was a very poor Sevco team. I'm not too worried about the season ahead, I think the basis of a decent team is there. Big up to all Saints fans who turned up today, a pleasure to be amongst it. It is too year 2023 and still today we hear songs about "No Pope of Rome...no chapels to sadden my eyes" along with songs about hating the tartan army in addition to the love of unelected head of state. This is still accepted and not questioned. Appalling. It is beyond doubt that Sevco and their fans are very different to every other football club in Europe. They have a massive poison unlike no other. Bigotry and Fascism. Onwards to Hibs comrades....
    7 points
  42. My suspicion is that there are too many mouse hearted frauds, not willing to drag themselves up out of a malaise, and would rather claim a succession of niggles, than be part of a failing team and try to make a difference. I may be doing an injustice to some, but there are too many strains, pulls and spasms.
    7 points
  43. One of the things that has given me some hope this season is that, in the interviews with new players, they genuinely sound really excited to get started and that they actually care about the club from the start. Especially Mitov. This might be partly just an improvement with comms, but when players like Butterfield were interviewed they just sounded like they couldn't care less.
    7 points
  44. Why? People need to realise Spoony isn't the answer to our issues, he was let go for a reason. Pining after him constantly is just blue tinted fantasy. Did he leave the wrong way, yes. Was it the right decision based on his contributions and play style, yes.
    7 points
  45. Maskrey

    What now

    What kind of example do you want? His work rate and commitment are a real example to everyone around him. I don’t get the criticisms towards him at all, we are lucky to have him.
    7 points
  46. mike_gain

    What now

    I've always tried to give management and players a fair go. But the last 2 defeats, in the context of the last 2 years and the manner of those defeats is a cause for concern. I feel the youngsters have been chucked under the bus, largely due to the squad mismanagement the last couple of years. The window could be another 40 weeks long but the fact is we're unlikely to be able to bring in players who will be good enough to counter the flaws in our current squad. The fault for now lies with those in charge the last 3 years. Missing out on euro group football was massive, not having anyone to replace our Kerr and McCann was criminal. This is where the rot started to set in and was followed by expensive mistake one after another. I cannot understand how any Saints fan cannot be apprehensive about the season ahead. We are in a mire.
    7 points
  47. No passion , no pride , no desire , no fight , no identity , no bond , no formation ,too many loanees who don’t give a shit !!!! . Take the whole management team and get rid !! Calum won both cups ?FFS who’s kidding who !!! Tommys team , tommys passion ,tommys pride , tommys desire , tommys identity ,Tommys Cups !!!
    7 points
  48. Would be great to see everyone show their support for Theo Bair tomorrow.
    7 points