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  1. Yep, I really think relegation would be disastrous for us and we could end up stuck in the lower leagues for a long, long time. Just look at what's happened to Hamilton, Partick, ICT, Dunfermline, Falkirk etc. If we went down we could easily find ourselves struggling just as much in the Championship as we have been in the Premiership. For me it's absolutely vital that we keep our place in the top flight, no matter how we do it.
    5 points
  2. Please, please, remind us how bad it was 50 years ago and how thats our level. The 3rd most successful club in Scotland over the past decade with a turnover of over £12m, and a group of older fans still think we're a part time outfit dreaming of the top flight. Times change, and you should probably remember the mindset that dragged us out that shiteheap and moved things upwards. It certainly wasn't "what do you expect? We're a wee diddy outfit who are lucky to even share a park with top flight sides".
    3 points
  3. I been happy clapping since the sixties. . seen some shit displays ,some no bad and some braw. i don’t live in the last 1o years of success. Get real . sjfc
    3 points
  4. Absolutely. Imagine what would happen to Carey if he tried to speak to Ando, Fraz, Cuptie or Eastie the way he speaks to Robinson or Sprangler. I really really don’t want St Johnstone to get relegated. I really really dislike the quality, personality and heart of so many players in this current squad.
    3 points
  5. Livingston put their shitters up them a week ago and scored twice. We didnt manage a shot on target until 3-1 in the 81st minute. Celtic played so well because they had nonstop attacking opportunities and there was absolutely no pressure on them at any point. Just players continously backing off. Accepting shite like that and giving players/managers a pass for it is more likely to result in relegation than saying its not good enough. We've accepted half hearted shite for far too long under this pathetic attitude we can't do any better.
    3 points
  6. Keep on happy clapping champ. I wasn’t expecting anything because I know how gutless this side is. We can at least attempt to score a goal rather than planting 11 men behind the ball against a celtic side that have struggled recently. I love how people start to question if someone is a fan if they complain about a result. What condescending pish, what qualifies you to decide who is or isn’t a fan?
    3 points
  7. If he was a race horse head get a bullet to put him and us out of our misery.
    3 points
  8. We'll really miss the zero goals and assists we get from Phillips IMO.
    2 points
  9. sixties saintee

    The Split

    But you gotta score goals
    2 points
  10. The place is rotten and needs gutted.
    2 points
  11. I know there's always the chance of taking a hammering at Celtic Park or Ibrox no matter what we do (far, far better Saints teams have gone there and lost by more goals), but our team just feels so flat, unmotivated and poorly organised at the moment, and that's a big worry regardless of the opponent. I've no problem with us playing one up front as it can be effective if done well (we basically won two cups and qualified for Europe with one player up front - ironically a player who is still ours but apparently surplus to requirements), but what was the actual plan yesterday? Our five defenders just camped out on our own 18 yard line and invited them to come at us. Celtic just had to bide their time and wait for us to crack. On our part there was no pressing, no pressure on the ball, no one looking to have a go. Why do we never go to places like this and press them any more? Is it a fitness issue? Sidibeh did everything he could up front but honestly, what did Levein expect him to do? Outpace the Celtic defence and beat two or three men on his own? Seriously, we need to have a better plan than that. I've been saying this for years now but I really feel Stevie May would bring a lot to our midfield, especially in games like this one. He tracks back, he breaks forward, he tries to force opponents into making mistakes, he's the only guy who seems to move when we have the ball. He'd bring way more energy to our midfield than Carey (for example) does. Levein himself sounds like a defeated man in his interviews: as flat and out of ideas as the team, and way too quick to criticise the players when perhaps it's his own approach that is the real problem. I'm sorry to say that I just have absolutely no faith in him at all. Whether we stay up or not, I want a fresh approach for next season.
    2 points
  12. Enjoyed him not getting a simple pass and us losing the ball, just to see him twirling around jumping up and down stamping his feet like a literal child while Celtic pressed onto our defence. Theres so few players in this squad who'll be able to cope with any sort of high intensity play off game.
    2 points
  13. It really is sad that there is nothing to commemorate the cup wins; this should be raised at the next fan meeting. A bronze statue of Tommy with the cup outside the stadium entrance would be magic.
    2 points
  14. I remember they planted trees in the 70’s along the front of Bell’s to honour local sports people. My dad had one for boxing.
    2 points
  15. rik2304

    The Split

    It's a big ask considering how long he's been out.
    1 point
  16. I can't recall a season where we have been so unlucky with the way the fixtures have fallen for us as they have. Just when we got back on tracks with a great win in Aberdeen and a good fighting draw with LIvi we have a free weekend because of the cup and then follow that with a trip to Parkhead before another free week with the International week. It's all been stop start and we just can't get any momentum. A trip to vist Celtic where in the corresponding figure early in the season Macca achieved his only positive result whilst in charge a 0-0 reargaurd. We carried a lot of luck that day and Mitov was outstanding. We'll need that same endeavour on Saturday. Recent games have shown that Celtic are nervous and if you put them under pressure the crowd react negativley. I hope Levein is brave enough to start two strikers - I think Kimps and Clark might start and Sid could play a big part if we are still in this game late. We must be level at half time to stand a chance.
    1 point
  17. Updated first team squad status: Goalkeepers Dave Richards - 2024 - on loan from Crewe Alexandria Jack Wills - 2024 Dimitar Mitov - 2025 Ross Sinclair - 2026 Defenders/wing backs James Brown - 2024 - on loan at Raith Rovers Ryan McGowan - 2024 Liam Gordon - 2024 Andy Considine - 2024 Liam Parker - 2024 - on loan at Edinburgh City Callum Booth - 2024 - on loan at Spartans Luke Robinson - 2024 - on loan from Wigan Tony Gallacher - 2024 Olusadare Olufunwa - 2025 David Keltjens - 2025 Sam McClelland - 2025 - on loan at Dundee United Midfielders/wingers Drey Wright - 2024 Cammy McPherson - 2024 Daniel Phillips - 2024 Ali Crawford - 2024 Graham Carey - 2024 Cammy Ballantyne - 2024 - on loan at Clyde Sven Sprangler - 2025 Connor Smith - 2025 Max Kucheriavyi - 2025 Matt Smith - 2025 Alex Ferguson - 2025 - on loan at Queen of the South Attackers Diallang Jaiyesimi - 2024 - on loan from Charlton Atheltic Chris Kane - 2024 - on loan at Dunfermline Taylor Steven - 2024 - on loan at Alloa Athletic Stevie May - 2025 Nicky Clark - 2025 Benjamin Kimpioka - 2025 Adama Sidibeh - 2026
    1 point
  18. RandomGuy

    The Split

    The average over the past decade for 11th is 36pts, so anything above that is where you aim. Ideally we get 3 wins from the next 8 games and that should be it.
    1 point
  19. Cagey

    January Transfer Window

    A lot more fun than re-signing the 20 odd in our present squad that are out of contract. We will have the same problem as the last 3 seasons of being unable to make signings until we know what league we will be in and that could be the last kick of the ball.
    1 point
  20. Carey on a personal level I really feel for him. On a professional level he is so much what is wrong with this club right now
    1 point
  21. Madejski was very much the same style as Geoff Brown. The club never spent a penny more than they had available. The bills and the staff always got paid on time.
    1 point
  22. Clark our only goal threat never got off the bench.
    1 point
  23. Carey best position on bench more often the better COYS
    1 point
  24. Celtic looked streaks ahead today of anyone else we have played they were on fire today. They visibly took pedal off when they hit three. We scored a nice goal, thought Keltjens played great, others tried their best, and we did keep it reasonable, some our desperate defending was pretty heroic stuff, we blocked, lunged and had shots off the line. I just wish old firm would fuk off out of our league, games like this can smash through the brittle teamwork and attempt at confidence we are trying to build. Maybe thats why managers set up 'not to lose', 3-1 versus a 7-0, I dont know. One observation was the TV scanned the crowd after the 3rd, someone yawned, others light clapping, some no clapping..... jesus what a life, they live for one matchup.....
    1 point
  25. I don't think there is anyone on this site that is not behind Saints but that doesn't mean you can't point out how bad your team is whether 9 or 90. It's even more galling when you see Killie and St Mirren vieing for 4th place with mostly home based players who there is no reason Saints shouldn't be signing.
    1 point
  26. If it was about having standards then I wouldn’t have a problem. I would be absolutely delighted if more of our players standards were so high that they could call others out when they fall short. Carey almost caused a goal today because his standards were so low. Standing stamping his feet in a cream puff while Celtic players flooded our box, including the one he should have been marking. He regularly gives the ball away playing outrageous outside of the foot passes that De Bruyne would struggle with. Don’t even get me started on his obsessing with ‘Rabonas”. More importantly, he doesn’t scream and berate certain other players who make many more mistakes and have fewer good matches than Robinson and Sprangler. Coward! Encouragement, desire, and setting standards I can get behind. Lambasting and berating I can’t.
    1 point
  27. What exactly were you expecting today? celtic were at it from the get go and never gave us minute. Even Packy was saying Celtic were at their best in weeks. Some “ fans” are desperate for us to be relegated!
    1 point
  28. We’re getting the play off we deserve. Rotten, gutless football.
    1 point
  29. There's an alternate timeline somewhere and Davidson is punted sooner and we bring Del back and are a football team once again.
    1 point
  30. Taylor Stephen on target again.
    1 point
  31. They said the fighting was good, no mention of football so sounds accurate 😂
    1 point
  32. 1 point
  33. Still baffles me what this presentation actually means to the ones receiving it, when I was a bairn I thought it meant you got on the buses for nothing, free chips from Watsons or even 20 smokes from RS Mcolls etc 🤣
    1 point
  34. garydavidson

    Pitch

    I think undersoil heating was the tuning point as it used to be a great surface.
    1 point
  35. It's a pretty similar situation to last season, really (can't remember the exact number but I think we lost something like 12 players last summer). I'd love for us to get back to the situation we were in under Tommy where we had a settled squad that only needed one or two additions to keep things fresh in each window. That's what you get when you have a long-term manager with a long-term plan, and players who are happy and want to stay. Sadly I think we're a long way from getting back to that place, if we even manage to get back there at all. Right now I don't think there's any other choice but to have another pretty big clear out. Of the players who are out of contract, I'm not sure there are any who I'd be particularly desperate to keep. I'd offer something to Drey Wright and I'd like Phillips to stay but he seems to be off elsewhere. I'm a bit on the fence about McGowan and Gordon. And youngsters like Jack Wills and Taylor Steven will hopefully be kept on. But other than that, I don't really see much argument for keeping any of the others.
    0 points
  36. Hearts apparently. Not confirmed, but they wouldn’t confirm anyway until end of season
    0 points