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  1. 5 points
    blueheaven

    Player contracts and transfers

    There seems to be an awful lot of speculation and assumption being passed off as fact in some of these last few posts. I very much doubt anyone on here genuinely knows how many players Tommy has targeted, and had scouted, and enquired about signing, over the past year.
  2. 3 points
    Swifts 2 Rose 0 Deserved win for swifts who were the better team on the day. Second half goals from Connor McLaren and Scott Smith gave swifts a vital 3 points. Next week Musselburgh Athletic come to the Riverside. Kick off 1.30pm
  3. 3 points
    RandomGuy

    2018/2019 FINANCIAL FIGURES

    Despite all that the crowds havent risen, the income hasnt risen, and the on field performances are dipping. A well run club would've built on those foundations and pushed on more, Saints seem happy to assume the same old would continue to work, and we're now being left behind by the likes of Motherwell.
  4. 2 points
    Pretty sure there are no cash gates.Im taking an old Jambo pal who has been unwell to hospitality so I paid Hearts
  5. 2 points
    blueheaven

    Player contracts and transfers

    By all means tell us what you believe... what I'm uncomfortable with is the way you try to pass off your beliefs as fact. A helluva lot of what you've just said is basically just you speculating, e.g. "We identified Declan Gallagher, and literally nobody else." Massive assumption. "We didnt have numerous targets, that's my point." How could you possibly know how many targets we had? "We should have a list of potential players 6 months in advance, at least." Maybe we do? I'd think it highly likely there is a constant, ever-changing list of players the manager is interested in, never mind one single list that is prepared six months in advance of a window. "18 months ago he admitted we have no scouts, something I've had PMd to me too." He said we don't have "a proper scouting system" - not that we don't have any scouts at all. As for Lyndon Dykes - maybe Saints did spot him but didn't want him or couldn't get him? I'd suggest it's fairly likely that we didn't go for him because he wasn't the manager's number 1 target at the time when he was available?
  6. 2 points
    real shame about JC. I thought it was a great appointment at the time - Saints legend and he had done really well at QoS. It felt like the perfect appointment. Agree with Sixties and Dunc - he'll always be a legend here.
  7. 2 points
    We identified Declan Gallagher, and literally nobody else. Meant that when the Gallagher deal fell through, as deals do, we had no other targets so started from scratch, we didnt sign anyone else until Vihmann joined on loan at the end of July. TW found out in February Gallagher had agreed to join Motherwell, are you telling me we approached a number of similar targets, none of who's names reached the press (remembering that even the deal for Wallace Duffy, a complete nobody at the time, was rumoured for months before he joined) and they all said no due to things out of his control? Or is it more likely we have no list of targets, and simply go for players the manager rates, and when one of them fall down, we start from scratch with TW asking his friends and agents for potential players? Motherwell are light years ahead of us. They have four scouts around the UK watching games. One of their senior CBs suffered a major injury on 27th July, within a week they had a CB on trial who signed for them just a month after that. Hes stepped in and looked comfortable at this level. They done this before with Cedric Kipre who got them £1m previously. That's what we should be doing, we should have a main target, and a list of fall back targets, all in place months before a window comes around, all players the manager wants and are gettable. We lost Shaughnessy, lost out on Gallagher, and ended up with Vihmann on loan 6 months later. Its embarrassing.
  8. 2 points
  9. 2 points
    SaintJet

    Sacked from the McDiarmid dugout

    if your of a certain vintage Connolly & Hall will always be legends
  10. 2 points
    Tranmere Saintee

    The next five...

    Sacked by Hannover 69, resigned from Barnsley after a 10 game losing run, hopefully he carries on that form up here.
  11. 2 points
    sixties saintee

    Ali McCann

    Don't give up the day job.
  12. 2 points
    RandomGuy

    2018/2019 FINANCIAL FIGURES

    Try and attract people to buy season tickets. We had 15,000 fans at the Cup Final, thousands at the parade, you have over 6000 coming to every European game. At all that, I never once seen anyone be handed a form for season tickets. Theres still not a database for fans, I buy online tickets and it doesnt store your information, I always click to revieve offers etc. through my email, again, nothing. Half season tickets advertised on FB, surely me as a online ticket buyer who is giving them my email address every week and asking to recieve offers is a prime candidate to be told about that? Not a single email. Our transfer strategy, and how its implemented, is still a disaster. This Summer simply forced into the spotlight how it works, in terms of scouting/negotiating. A competent club doesnt lose, arguably four, first team defenders in one window and replace them with a kid who's never played a senior game, and a loanee the manager has watched once. A lot of our players have been signed through the same agency, and most aren't found by scouting, just by tip offs from agents (Drey Wright, for example, was through Allan Preston). Financially, you cannot fault the club, but it's wrong to be suggesting they're succeeding at other parts. We've been a top flight side for a decade now, and in terms of cash at the bank are in the top three in the entire country, we seem on course to whittle that all away.
  13. 2 points
    RandomGuy

    Ali McCann

    Yes, but this allows us to negotiate our own fee and sell on clause. St Mirren have received £1.3m from John McGinn, simply through sell on fees.
  14. 2 points
    Indicator

    2018/2019 FINANCIAL FIGURES

    ...... whilst operating strictly within the rules of Financial Fair Play. Rules that clearly don't seem to apply to some other(s).
  15. 2 points
    blueheaven

    2018/2019 FINANCIAL FIGURES

    Of course there are always areas for improvement, but to me this statement is just bizarre. We've comfortably stayed in the top flight for over 10 years, recently won our first cup, had several recent European qualifications, and consistently appointed successful managers, and done it all whilst staying debt free, owning our own stadium and surrounding land and amassing £2 million in the bank, despite our fairly crap average attendances. On what basis are Saints not a well-run club? What else could the club do or achieve that would make it well run in your eyes?
  16. 2 points
    sleepless

    Player contracts and transfers

    Ando is a hero forever at this club, but at the end it was obvious he was too far off the pace and he wasn't up to Premier league level any longer. He's not the answer on the pitch. As a coaching adviser maybe, but his playing days at this level are gone.
  17. 1 point
    I though we better get this thread started for Saturday's crucial game with the Jambo's. Hearts will be expecting the "bounce" factor of a new manager to help them whilst we are still fragile but hopeful after a decent draw with Killie. Team on the same lines as last midweek with Muzz back at a ground he always plays well at. I think we could surprise a few this week and get that first elusive away win. COYS!
  18. 1 point
    RandomGuy

    Player contracts and transfers

    I got PMd it from here...
  19. 1 point
    jhq

    Player contracts and transfers

    I was talking about your other claims about the running of the club, budgets, people PMing you with info. I also like winding you up - it's so easy
  20. 1 point
    Kyle

    Player contracts and transfers

    Oli Shaw as well for striker.
  21. 1 point
    Ben McKenzie getting some plaudits at Kelty Hearts according to my my, ex Par supporting, mate, who is an avid fan.
  22. 1 point
    Templar Saint

    Player contracts and transfers

    Do not ASSUME It makes an ASS out of U and ME
  23. 1 point
    Pat McGroin

    Player contracts and transfers

    To be fair, we might have had 5 targets in each position and missed them all. If we’re outbid when it comes to wages, then we have to keep looking.
  24. 1 point
    SaintJet

    Player contracts and transfers

    This is exactly where I'm coming from. I'm not disparaging Random's point of view but it is clearly only his point of view not factual and plenty of speculation.
  25. 1 point
    None of truly know the ins and outs of everything that goes on at McD. Tommy may well be taking care of a lot more shite than most of the other managers in the division and Broon may be cramming the work of 3 people into a 3 day week all to save cash for an extra couple of players on the payroll. This is all fine when it's working well, as soon as it isn't it can quickly get on top of even the best of folk. This is why we need proper structure, to maximise the potential of everyone involved, sadly it may take change of ownership for that to happen.
  26. 1 point
    RandomGuy

    Player contracts and transfers

    Most are what TW himself has admitted. 18 months ago he admitted we have no scouts, something I've had PMd to me too. TW actually broke the news of Gallagher joining Motherwell, in the first days of March. Duffy admitted in an interview TW told him he'd be fighting with Foster for the right back spot when he agreed to join. Vihmann admitted TW seen him in March against Northern Ireland, and that he only became available when Staebek changed manager in June, one month he before joined us. Shaughnessy had been rejecting contracts since November, confirmed by TW in an interview. Watt claimed on Twitter he rejected a contract in January and was then forced out the first team picture. It was widely reported Blair Alston wasnt offered anything until May. Over a month after Polworth, rumoured to be a target by Robert Thomson, was confirmed as joining Motherwell. Just me, but I look at Shaughnessy rejecting deals in November, Gallagher being targeted, Gallagher agreeing to join Motherwell in February, TW watching Vihmann playing against NI in March, Vihmann becoming available in June, Vihmann signing for us in July, and feel likes it's a case of them missing out on a ****ing obvious target, them having no idea where to go until TW spots someone at a NI game who he keeps an eye on, before getting them in because they're available and we've no idea who else is out there. I'd actually prefer it if we were in this situation due to negligence tbh, the idea that pre-planning brought us Duffy and Vihmann as back up CBs is terrifying.
  27. 1 point
    south inch

    Sacked from the McDiarmid dugout

    What made the Connolly episode more difficult to bear was that you could not hope to meet a nicer guy.
  28. 1 point
    RandomGuy

    Player contracts and transfers

    We didnt have numerous targets, that's my point. We should have a list of potential players 6 months in advance, at least. In January we moved for Gallagher, we missed out and didnt sign a replacement until July, someone we hadnt even heard of until March. Theres no forward planning.
  29. 1 point
    andrew

    Player contracts and transfers

    He’s only stating what he thinks. Most of it was public knowledge at the time. I can’t disagree with it. It seems that our board view things as a cost and not an investment. It does appear that Motherwell are so far ahead in this area yet their (limited) resources cannot be too dissimilar.
  30. 1 point
    akuram

    Player contracts and transfers

    We just never sign strikers who score goals.
  31. 1 point
    Still a legend in my view.
  32. 1 point
    RandomGuy

    Player contracts and transfers

    Glad to see journalists calling them out on it. A lack of forward planning has completely ****ed us this season. Easton, Anderson and Shaughnessy were all set to leave us this Summer, yet the only defender we proactively signed was Wallace Duffy, its embarrassing. I love MOH and May, but in January we could've agreed a PCA with Gallagher, and signed Lyndon Dykes for £10k, I refuse to believe we'd have spent more money doing that, nor that we would be in this position if we had. Sometimes feels like we're just signing the players we think are the best out there rather than scouring the market and picking the best option out of that.
  33. 1 point
    R.B.B:- Adz

    Player contracts and transfers

    Bottom of the table and needing to “pull a rabbit out of the hat” in January is not ideal.. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5042736/st-johnstone-tommy-wright-robert-thomson/
  34. 1 point
    Scott Brown for Peterhead
  35. 1 point
    Havana Saint

    The next five...

    It highlights exactly where we don't want to be. Busy worrying about today's results and new managers elsewhere. St Mirren at home is the BIG one. A lot can happen, however avoiding defeat v St Mirren and Hamilton is imperative.
  36. 1 point
    Andrew Steeves scores for Montrose
  37. 1 point
    Ginger Bakers rebel army

    Ali McCann

    Buffalo gold slot machine, bring on the gold coins.
  38. 1 point
    Cagey

    Ali McCann

    I thought they got a trophy .
  39. 1 point
    Abernethy Saint

    The next five...

    For the whole club??
  40. 1 point
    byebyedundee

    2018/2019 FINANCIAL FIGURES

    Couldn't agree more
  41. 0 points
    Certainly did.