"Shut it down" is the classic position when you have a weak position and can't really argue with reality or the opposing view. In the context of Saints current predicament, it comes from living in the past. We won a cup and had some high league finishes under the current manager, which of course was brilliant. However, MOH, Danny and now Stevie back at the club (some multiple times) don't give a sense of moving forward. I believe that managers and players have a shelf-life at any club, and god knows, we could do with some fresh ideas and perspective now. As to the question that's always asked - "who would replace Tommy?" - has Paul Sheerin's name been mentioned? Did a pretty good job with Arbroath when he was there until you could argue he hit the skids with a club not equipped to play in the higher league he got them into. His record with U20s since has been quite impressive as I understand it.