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I hardly think we won comfortably, given for 135 minutes of the play offs we were still level. The difference then to now is that you had Rooney, Hendry and other senior players digging in and coming up with the goods and essentially dragging us to safety. We don't have that quality or drive from this squads of shitebag players and we cant score goals so any of the lower league teams will see us as a huge chance to beat.

Moan, moan, moan....

Except Levein has already addressed the fact Clark was out with a tight groin in the media on Wednesday and for all we know Chris Kane might not even have been injured, it may have been something else? The constant need for saints fans to know every last minute detail about our players is ridiculous. They’ve stated the guys are injured and then say they might be back, what more do you want from them? Obviously it’s not a long term thing as they’d of posted about that separately.

There is so much wrong with this post it’s quite funny. As for the person asking where Spangler is, Smith and Phillips have been excellent for the last 3/4 games and don’t deserve to be dropped, so Sven will need to earn his place back through upping his game again. As for the match, I think we were worthy of a point. I’d argue Clark had more saves to make than Mitov and the only reason Hearts got chances towards the end was we changed shape slightly. Another week where Robinson was a stand out, but as others have said we were let down up top. Kane had his worst game in about 5 years and May just doesn’t have it any more.

What about Booth's last 3 seasons allows you to even begin to use the word reliable in a sentence describing him? I can't be bothered doing the numbers, but I'd be amazed if he's even been available for 30% of the games we've played in that time, let alone played.

You know, your constant criticism of everything and anything St Johnstone gets real tiresome. Let me guess, it’s probably saints fault for the weather right now as well?

Can’t speak for them all, but Taylor Steven had started every game for Alloa he’s been there. Ferguson is sporadically in and out of a struggling QotS team. Was at the CSS versus Broomhill game yesterday where Parker made his debit having just join and Ben McCrystal was injured for Broomhill and didn’t play. In terms of technique and ability to pace and control a ball with pace, Parker was probably a level above the others on the pitch, but physically he looked like a kid and got bullied for most of the game. Mind you he was playing next to Conrad Balatoni who also struggled at times. It’s not a great level, but I think it’ll do Parker good, if he’s going to make it in professional football though he needs to bulk up and become more dominate, especially with his size.

Just those watching on the TV, but the difference is that’s those in the stadium know exactly what is being reviewed as the screens all say. They also show all the imagines at the exact same time as the referee does, so you get the same info the ref does.

Except for the fact that the recent world cup shows there's zero consistency and that rules are being interpreted completely differently by both referees and video referees. Whilst you might hear what's being said, Rugby as a sport is actually getting worse in terms of refereeing. It's coming back to the same issue football has, it's a skill drop and a reliance on technology which means referees aren't officiating games in the same manner they used to.

Apparently has it now and could be in the squad against Hibs if it's fully processed.

Brown clearly isn't match fit yet. He may have played 90 minutes against Dundee, but he looked like he was struggling within about 10 minutes and clearly wasn't running and moving with the confidence of someone without injury. Suspect he was rested as we have more important games coming up and I actually thought for the most part Dare was fine in the match. Ok he got done down the right for the second goal, but lets face it, Matondo is pretty much the fastest player in the league and it wouldn't of mattered who played there, as he ran from deep.

I mean I could look back and count about 3/4 each against Dundee alone, so I dont think those numbers are wild. It’s what they do with it afterwards that’s probably the main issue right now.

Aye the only way we get more saints fans at these games is by banning an away support entirely. That’s simply not possible nor is it financially viable, so there’s really nothing saints can actually do to improve the home crowds. As others have mentioned they’ve tried in the past, they can’t lower the price for home fans only and they can’t stop the away fans from being idiots. It really is a lose/lose situation every time as no matter what saints come off looking the bad guys.

The fact Spoony hasn't gotten a new club should give you an indication of why we shouldn't have retained him. There's a reason that not even Championship teams are champing at the bit to sign him indicates they know what saints knew. For the last time, the revisionism with Spoony needs to stop, there's a reason he was released and it was the correct decision.

I mean not sure how you can relate the inherent issues with his wrists, to a totally separate freak arm break, but you've tried! But either way your point is still relevant, he's actually pretty injury prone and that for a goalkeeper is a nightmare, it's the one position you need consistency in at all times.

I don't blame folk to be honest, a combination of the stinking weather, summer holidays and the general lack of enthusiasm after the cup games no doubt led to a reduced home crowd.

Why? People need to realise Spoony isn't the answer to our issues, he was let go for a reason. Pining after him constantly is just blue tinted fantasy. Did he leave the wrong way, yes. Was it the right decision based on his contributions and play style, yes.

I think this is spot on. I think every man and their dog who has a connection with Saints knows the last 2/3 years have been a disaster on and off the pitch for a variety of reasons and it's left us in a really poor position on the pitch to say the least. The running of the club does appear to be improving, based on the outputs, media, etc. as well as the feedback from the open meetings. What we need to collectively do is essentially move past the Davidson/Flaherty era and try and push the team on the pitch on as far as we can (with the caveat that there is still lingering players who will be around for a while. I'm not yet convinced by MacLean's managerial ability or tactical nous yet, far from it. What I can get behind is his transfer strategy (even if has been forced upon him), as well as his willingness to use younger players (again forced and maybe their not good enough). One thing that saints fans do and did even throughout Davidson's worst spells was back the team and show support. It's difficult for sure when you see what's going on, on the pitch, but ultimately the only way we get out this slump and mess that we've created is to try and be positive as a fanbase, as a club and hopefully that transfers onto the pitch in the form of some fight and spirit, as there seems to be a massive negative cloud over the whole stadium right now. That cloud is probably entirely fair as well, it's been self inflicted, but come Saturday, first game of the league season you're going to have 3500 Hearts fans making a lot of noise, it won't do the Saints team any good to get a tepid and lukewarm reception, despite it being warranted. It's frustrating that the fans once again need to get the players going and get a reaction, when it's about time they do the opposite. Quite frankly there are a large number in our squad who owe the fans big time.

Yeah I had it in my head he was injury prone, but must have been someone else. He was also Lincoln captain for a season at least, so that's another positive, we're lacking guys like that. He has played 30+ games in League 1 for the last 4 seasons and is the right age, so yeah count me in.

Another injury prone central midfielder isn't one that thrills me, but he's the right type of player and profile. Then again maybe I'm being harsh, since it was a broken leg he got early in his career, but there's always a risk there.

We are the 4th longest serving top flight team for a reason and that was based on hard work, commitment and leadership. All qualities that we are sorely lacking in right now. Even going back 2-3 years, you had a squad containing Kerr, Craig, Bryson, Davidson, Spoony, Rooney, etc. who were all vocal, fighters and leaders in their own way. The fact that we can't even figure out if there's a suitable captain at the club anymore tells you a quite serious story. I can see what MacLean is trying to do, but he needs to not only find guys who are talented and fit the right profile, he needs to find leaders both on an off the pitch. Guys to drag a team through when the going gets tough and be the first to step out from the trenches. Both him and Craig have been that guy, so they know the type of person they need, whether we can find it is another matter.

You wonder if this is Geoff Brown’s last true act as owner of St Johnstone, one last big pay day in the form of sponsorship to try and offset some of the massive losses. Doubtful given his past history, but then again he’s not against one off gestures in the distant past.

You want to play a left footed attacking midfielder as back up to our only natural right back? The hell were you smoking last night or do you just say every stupid thought that enters your head? As it stands, Wright and McGowan are your back up right backs.

You mean their first choice goalkeeper from last season who received plenty of plaudits, but don't let that stop you having a moan. We're also not signing him since it would require a fee.

Just signed Brophy for 6 figures with another 6 figures going to St Mirren for Henderson as well.....aye ok Roy!