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I have a colleague who is a season ticket holder at Tannadice tells me that McCelland has been a stand out for the Terrors since he's started getting a regular game and they would happily keep him. Several fans are of the same opinion so that's good news going forward becasue we definitely need a shake up up in defence.

All true, but equally I think it's important for the club to actually look at why this happened so it doesn't happen again, rather than just shrug the shoulders and have a laugh about it. It's not just luck that allowed us to benefit in a similar way in the past. It happened because we'd created an environment here where players could thrive. If the opposite is now happening (and it definitely is, and not just with Bair), then that's probably a big part of the reason why we're now a team that struggles every year.

All true, but equally I think it's important for the club to actually look at why this happened so it doesn't happen again, rather than just shrug the shoulders and have a laugh about it. It's not just luck that allowed us to benefit in a similar way in the past. It happened because we'd created an environment here where players could thrive. If the opposite is now happening (and it definitely is, and not just with Bair), then that's probably a big part of the reason why we're now a team that struggles every year.

All true, but equally I think it's important for the club to actually look at why this happened so it doesn't happen again, rather than just shrug the shoulders and have a laugh about it. It's not just luck that allowed us to benefit in a similar way in the past. It happened because we'd created an environment here where players could thrive. If the opposite is now happening (and it definitely is, and not just with Bair), then that's probably a big part of the reason why we're now a team that struggles every year.

All true, but equally I think it's important for the club to actually look at why this happened so it doesn't happen again, rather than just shrug the shoulders and have a laugh about it. It's not just luck that allowed us to benefit in a similar way in the past. It happened because we'd created an environment here where players could thrive. If the opposite is now happening (and it definitely is, and not just with Bair), then that's probably a big part of the reason why we're now a team that struggles every year.

I don't think anyone would ever suggest that he is. But he doesn't need to be the Stevie May of 11 years ago to still be good enough to be an option for the current side.

Just to clarify, by "now happening" I mean that there are now ex-Saints players who are at other clubs and doing well, after doing badly here, when it used to be the other way around. Obviously it's not possible to know if this will be the case with any of the current players, as they're still current players.

I voted yes. No idea what will actually happen of course, but at this point in time my guess is we'll finish 11th and scrape through the play-off.

All true, but equally I think it's important for the club to actually look at why this happened so it doesn't happen again, rather than just shrug the shoulders and have a laugh about it. It's not just luck that allowed us to benefit in a similar way in the past. It happened because we'd created an environment here where players could thrive. If the opposite is now happening (and it definitely is, and not just with Bair), then that's probably a big part of the reason why we're now a team that struggles every year.

100% this. It seriously annoyed me the way winning a relegation play-off was suddenly treated as something we should all be celebrating, instead of recognised as the massive failure that it was. We'd gone from winning two cups and matching Galatasaray on their own pitch, to relegation candidates in less than a year. Davidson should have been firmly embarrassed by that, not running around in front of the fans like he thought he was some sort of hero. To me it's one of the cringiest things I've ever witnessed in my years watching Saints.
Davidson also should have looked upon that moment as his opportunity to walk away and let someone else have a go at the job, instead of clinging on and actively making us even worse (which we're still trying to recover from two years later).

100% this. It seriously annoyed me the way winning a relegation play-off was suddenly treated as something we should all be celebrating, instead of recognised as the massive failure that it was. We'd gone from winning two cups and matching Galatasaray on their own pitch, to relegation candidates in less than a year. Davidson should have been firmly embarrassed by that, not running around in front of the fans like he thought he was some sort of hero. To me it's one of the cringiest things I've ever witnessed in my years watching Saints.
Davidson also should have looked upon that moment as his opportunity to walk away and let someone else have a go at the job, instead of clinging on and actively making us even worse (which we're still trying to recover from two years later).

Completely agree with all of this but sadly I struggle to see Levein doing any of it.
The Kimpioka-Sidibeh pairing in particular surely has to be worth a shot? I think it could really take an opponent by surprise if we unleash those two from the start of a game. And Hibs, whose defence looked pretty ropey last time, would surely be prime candidates to try it against?
Feel a bit sorry for Clark as he's being used in completely the wrong role. He's far from the only one, though.

100% this. It seriously annoyed me the way winning a relegation play-off was suddenly treated as something we should all be celebrating, instead of recognised as the massive failure that it was. We'd gone from winning two cups and matching Galatasaray on their own pitch, to relegation candidates in less than a year. Davidson should have been firmly embarrassed by that, not running around in front of the fans like he thought he was some sort of hero. To me it's one of the cringiest things I've ever witnessed in my years watching Saints.
Davidson also should have looked upon that moment as his opportunity to walk away and let someone else have a go at the job, instead of clinging on and actively making us even worse (which we're still trying to recover from two years later).

I'd also like Kimpioka and Sidibeh to start, both have youth, energy and pace.
Couple that with a strategy of getting at the opposition from the off and I would imagine that could catch them off guard, so should work well.
After an hour or so of giving their all, the younger forwards could be replaced by the older, experienced and proven pairing of Clark and May.
They'd be fresh and have more than enough in the tank to get them through to full time.
The added benefit to this being by that time in the game, we might need experienced heads on the park to see us to the finish line.
This way in my opinion, everybody plays in their correct position, are played appropriately to their physical strengths and makes full use of their experience.
I realise it rarely ends up as simple as that, but I think it would be a good base to build from.

Whoever said that is a moron.

Future number one? AI knows the score

Let's All Laugh at Rangers
PLAY HERE >>> https://suno.com/song/95096132-10cd-445b-8f04-476123f86cda
Marching on the field
Ready for the cheer
The Rangers football team
But no victory here
They stumble on the grass
Like they're stuck in a trance
Their fans are zombies
Just looking for a chance
Hold your drumsticks high
Let the cymbals clash
We're here to mock the Rangers
It's gonna be a bash
They tried and they failed
It's just a sad sight
But we'll keep on marching
From day into the night
[Verse 2]
They wear the blue jersey
With hopes held high
But their performance on the field
Makes us all sigh
Their passes go haywire
Their shots miss the mark
The Rangers football team
Oh what a stark
 

B SIDE
Rubbish Rangers

PLAY HERE >>>  https://suno.com/song/cf40b4ca-7162-4fa6-b0e4-fd1ceb18a1a3
On the football field
They take the stage
But The Rangers team
Just can't engage
Their skills are lacking
It's plain to see
Zombie fans cheer half-heartedly
Fans in blue
Like walking dead
Following a team
With no spark
No thread
Their glory days have long since gone
Laughing at their failures
We all have fun
[Verse 2]
Marching along
In the army's beat
But The Rangers team
Can't find their feet
Their passes are errant
Their shots go wide
Zombie fans support with delusional pride
 
 

 

"We'll never catch Hamilton."
A great man once said on here.

Why would it be good for Ross County to pick up a point? I'd much rather see them lose. Livi aren't going to catch us. Even if Livi beat County and Hibs beat us, Livi are going to be 10 points behind us with four games left, so they'd effectively have to win every game and we'd have to lose every game for them to catch us. Realistically that's not going to happen.

That money's long gone. Frittered away on transfer fees and wages for the many, many players Callum Davidson signed and then decided he didn't actually want. Think it's a serious stretch to try to say he was working on a shoestring. 
 
Can't agree with that at all. Dodds was a cracking player for us at the time, and his transfer fee doubled when he left after just a few months. Missing one sitter didn't put us down. If it hadn't been for league reconstruction we'd have comfortably stayed up that season. Just take a look at the league table from that year. We finished 9 points clear of 11th place, and we were on the same points as the team who finished 8th and just two points behind the team that finished sixth. Ever since then it's been unheard of for a club to go down from that sort of position, and it'll probably never happen again.
Don't think it was a surprise to anyone that just a few years after that Dodds became a regular for Rangers and Scotland.

100% this. It seriously annoyed me the way winning a relegation play-off was suddenly treated as something we should all be celebrating, instead of recognised as the massive failure that it was. We'd gone from winning two cups and matching Galatasaray on their own pitch, to relegation candidates in less than a year. Davidson should have been firmly embarrassed by that, not running around in front of the fans like he thought he was some sort of hero. To me it's one of the cringiest things I've ever witnessed in my years watching Saints.
Davidson also should have looked upon that moment as his opportunity to walk away and let someone else have a go at the job, instead of clinging on and actively making us even worse (which we're still trying to recover from two years later).

100% this. It seriously annoyed me the way winning a relegation play-off was suddenly treated as something we should all be celebrating, instead of recognised as the massive failure that it was. We'd gone from winning two cups and matching Galatasaray on their own pitch, to relegation candidates in less than a year. Davidson should have been firmly embarrassed by that, not running around in front of the fans like he thought he was some sort of hero. To me it's one of the cringiest things I've ever witnessed in my years watching Saints.
Davidson also should have looked upon that moment as his opportunity to walk away and let someone else have a go at the job, instead of clinging on and actively making us even worse (which we're still trying to recover from two years later).

100% this. It seriously annoyed me the way winning a relegation play-off was suddenly treated as something we should all be celebrating, instead of recognised as the massive failure that it was. We'd gone from winning two cups and matching Galatasaray on their own pitch, to relegation candidates in less than a year. Davidson should have been firmly embarrassed by that, not running around in front of the fans like he thought he was some sort of hero. To me it's one of the cringiest things I've ever witnessed in my years watching Saints.
Davidson also should have looked upon that moment as his opportunity to walk away and let someone else have a go at the job, instead of clinging on and actively making us even worse (which we're still trying to recover from two years later).

100% this. It seriously annoyed me the way winning a relegation play-off was suddenly treated as something we should all be celebrating, instead of recognised as the massive failure that it was. We'd gone from winning two cups and matching Galatasaray on their own pitch, to relegation candidates in less than a year. Davidson should have been firmly embarrassed by that, not running around in front of the fans like he thought he was some sort of hero. To me it's one of the cringiest things I've ever witnessed in my years watching Saints.
Davidson also should have looked upon that moment as his opportunity to walk away and let someone else have a go at the job, instead of clinging on and actively making us even worse (which we're still trying to recover from two years later).

100% this. It seriously annoyed me the way winning a relegation play-off was suddenly treated as something we should all be celebrating, instead of recognised as the massive failure that it was. We'd gone from winning two cups and matching Galatasaray on their own pitch, to relegation candidates in less than a year. Davidson should have been firmly embarrassed by that, not running around in front of the fans like he thought he was some sort of hero. To me it's one of the cringiest things I've ever witnessed in my years watching Saints.
Davidson also should have looked upon that moment as his opportunity to walk away and let someone else have a go at the job, instead of clinging on and actively making us even worse (which we're still trying to recover from two years later).

100% this. It seriously annoyed me the way winning a relegation play-off was suddenly treated as something we should all be celebrating, instead of recognised as the massive failure that it was. We'd gone from winning two cups and matching Galatasaray on their own pitch, to relegation candidates in less than a year. Davidson should have been firmly embarrassed by that, not running around in front of the fans like he thought he was some sort of hero. To me it's one of the cringiest things I've ever witnessed in my years watching Saints.
Davidson also should have looked upon that moment as his opportunity to walk away and let someone else have a go at the job, instead of clinging on and actively making us even worse (which we're still trying to recover from two years later).