Radford 72

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  1. Radford 72

    Reserve League News 2018/19

    What was the score? @mainstand
  2. Radford 72

    Reserve League News 2018/19

    Steven Anderson was young once...
  3. Radford 72

    Reserve League News 2018/19

    Who are the players getting kept on?
  4. Radford 72

    Reserve League News 2018/19

    Appreciate the conversation has moved on over the course of the day but just wanted to make another couple of points. Boys are being told they are being let go because we don't have a reserve team. Does that mean they aren't good enough, or are they victims of penny pinching? Our most expensive ever sale was on the verge of moving to Forfar for about £6,000 at a young age but Saints stuck at it in developing him and reaped the rewards. When there is talk about pathways, it is a general idea and not uniform with every individual. Making a judgement on players at 17 or 18 is hasty. Of course there will be ones that you know haven't adapted to full-time professionalism but equally there will be players that need further development at the next stage. That stage is being removed though it appears. Maybe it isn't (and they'll go in heavy on loans) but until communicated to otherwise, it's fair to assume it is. I've no idea if the budget is being cut for next season as there has been no indication either way from the manager but I don't necessarily agree that cuts need to be directed towards the younger players. I could live without us signing the Niall Keown, Tristan Nydam or Sean Goss of next season, for example. I've been prepared to accept signings like Keown in particular because I've believed we are striving long-term towards producing our own young players to compliment the first team squad. That plan now looks to be getting abandoned and it'll be the Stevie May or Jason Kerr type coming through or nothing at all. Finally, I still think you are missing the point about Accies and Falkirk. Accies aren't fighting relegation because they play youngsters and likewise, that isn't the reason that Falkirk have failed to secure promotion. You are still painting them as examples of why academies don't work when it's actually very much the opposite!
  5. Radford 72

    Reserve League News 2018/19

    Making things up might work for you in some circumstances but Liam Gordon's multiple appearances for Hearts consisted of one Challenge Cup game and a substitute appearance against Stenhousemuir. He played just over 120 minutes of football for them. He went on loan at 19 and had played around 20 games in League Two before Tommy Wright threw him in against Aberdeen for his second Saints appearance. That is a clear development pathway and whilst I completely accept you don't just keep players for the sake of, we should be capable of taking a group as good as our 1999s to 2001s and be able to develop more than just a goalkeeper (coached separately) and Ali McCann. If we can't produce anything from that group, I'd about-face and question the point of the academy at all. I don't want them thrown in the team at 17 or 18 but I expect at least a few of them to at least make the first team squad for assessment and not be released en masse. Playing for Broomhill Sports Club Glasgow doesn't constitute making it and shouldn't be viewed as any sort of success for our academy, unless it's as part of their longer-term development with St Johnstone. Falkirk have dossed around the Championship (or lower) for most seasons (33/44) since reconstruction, that's their level. They weren't being held back by playing young players! I'm repeating that point and the same applies to Hamilton. You are painting these clubs as somehow suffering because they play(ed) youngsters when the truth is very much the opposite! If your dream really is to have youngsters coming through then I'd have thought you'd be far more concerned about the reasons why it isn't happening rather than the resigned defeatism on display and dismissing and mocking constructive posts as bitter or angry parents airing grievances.
  6. Radford 72

    Reserve League News 2018/19

    Unless people are prepared to speak out about grievances then nothing will change. If the only players with contracts for next year are the ones that signed for two years then it doesn't reflect well on the coach that he can't develop a single one of them enough to get a new deal. Very poor.
  7. Radford 72

    Reserve League News 2018/19

    I'd like Saints to build a structure where the young players are good enough to step in. Liam Gordon did it in an important cup game at Aberdeen a couple of seasons ago. Is it unreasonable to think we could have a defender or two, a midfielder or two and a forward capable of doing that? I don't think so. Hamilton struggle because they have one of the lowest budgets in the league. The fact they play youths and survive is a positive and not the negative you've just painted it as. And were Falkirk not doing well until they ditched their academy? Filling their squad with shite from England certainly hasn't served them better. I think both those clubs are/were good examples of how to run an academy. I pretty much disagree with you on every aspect of this. To have a group of players that don't lose a game in a year and have no outfield player make the grade is a very poor reflection on the development pathway. Are we really to believe that if they were good enough to beat anyone put in front of them at that level that not a SINGLE one of them is good enough to make it into our first team squad? Trying to paint this as simply frustrated parents letting off steam is unfair. These guys are seeing our youth system and handling of young professionals at first hand and are making good points that deserve more respect.
  8. Radford 72

    Reserve League News 2018/19

    I think the posts from those with first hand experience of the academy and U18s are a valuable contribution to the forum and certainly deserve more respect than they are often given. I want Saints to produce good young players. Unless the club can paint their vision for the fans then the impression they are giving is that they don't and are instead happy to have have Michael Hart, Michael Doyle, Niall Keown or whoever sitting in the stand most weeks, in case they are needed for the bench one Saturday. Saints are making a big mistake here and it's very sad that it sounds like an U17s group that went a full year unbeaten are pretty much all going to be gone come the summer, bar the goalkeeper. Questions need asked about their development since they've gone full-time IMO. Are any of the 2000/2001 age group getting new deals?
  9. Radford 72

    Reserve League News 2018/19

    Another bizarre stance above, to pick out Kevin O'Hara from a club that produced Kinglsey, Fulton, McGrandles etc... Three benefits of the academy that come immediately to mind: Best chance of club gaining the services of a top class player that can be sold for significant money. Negates the need to sign players like Hart, Doyle, Krachunov and the likes if you have a good youth system. Boys who take money for nothing. Creates a good community link if you give the best local young players a platform. There will be more. What are the negatives? It costs a bit of money? The sale of Davidson, Griffin, Scott and McAnespie over 20 years ago is probably still covering the cost of running it if need be. Until we know and the club illustrate their vision, this is a very poor move.
  10. Radford 72

    Reserve League News 2018/19

    Very strange stance from @RandomGuy on this. Unless Saints have some of plan in place, they are potentially creating a big problem in terms of development, as highlighted above. It'd be nice if we got some sort of explanation for this decision and what the vision is but I won't hold my breath. You go to all this effort with kids from pre-teen up until they are 17 or 18 then they have to be good enough for the first team squad? If we are still running a development squad then who are they going to play games against? Disappointing.
  11. Radford 72

    Robert Campbell

    Yeah, that's who I was thinking of. Not to dismiss his contribution but would be delighted if it was indeed Robert Campbell.
  12. Radford 72

    Robert Campbell

    I voted for him in the HoF nominations as well. I had never put two and two together regarding the Campbell Suite. I possibly thought it was named after one of the directors! That's a nice touch but he should have been the second man into the Hall of Fame and his omission to date reflects badly on Saints.
  13. Radford 72

    Joe Shaughnessy

    Shaughnessy was named in the SPFL Team of the Season a couple of years ago but, yeah, he's always been shite. Pure scorned lover behaviour on show here.
  14. Radford 72

    What contracts would you renew?

    Alston gives you a horses for courses option. He would provide discipline on the right if you had Swanson/Kennedy/O'Halloran on the left and didn't want two out-and-out wingers. I think in a formation like we used at Motherwell last week, Alston is the obvious option to provide a bit more support for a striker in the midfield three. Kane was far too isolated last week. But he's only played the equivalent 11 league games so the chairman will no doubt be taking that into account when making any offer. I know he's injured at the moment but the fact he's only started one game since the break doesn't bode well for him.
  15. Radford 72

    Taxi for Tommy?

    Hardly surprising but that's a great post. @Broon