THE LARK SAINT Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Tuesday addition up 5p to 90p:Personally i only buy it for Saints stuff and the occasional photo! Dont know what the friday addition will be up yet but i assume it will go up too! Does any one else think its poor value now a-days? does any one still buy it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Saint Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Tuesday addition up 5p to 90p:Personally i only buy it for Saints stuff and the occasional photo! Dont know what the friday addition will be up yet but i assume it will go up too! Does any one else think its poor value now a-days? does any one still buy it? Bannerman's sattirical reports are worth reading, the rest is crap. If we beat the **** this year, we should a sing for Gordon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY5565 Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Tuesday addition up 5p to 90p:Personally i only buy it for Saints stuff and the occasional photo! Dont know what the friday addition will be up yet but i assume it will go up too! Does any one else think its poor value now a-days? does any one still buy it? i read it on line dosen't cost nowt.shame theres not enuff photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Christmas Jones Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Dont buy it.Not going into it but a some of the stories in it have been alot of crap.Have nt for about 3 or 4 years.I read all i want to about saints on here from 101 and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Saint Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 I read all i want to about saints on here from 101 and the like. Could you not find the ignore button? In all honesty, most of the factual correct "gossip" doesn't get posted on the forum anymore, which is a great shame, if an inevitability. The respected forumers tend to pass information via pm. Good and bad, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Beatson Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 The thing that amazed me about the PA recently was that it took them TWO WEEKS to put in the pictures of the Ice Factory's last night. I'm assuming these were pics taken by a PA photographer, so why not bang them in the following Tuesday - it would have been easily done! Why wait a fortnight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ghost of Jim Morton Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 We get the PA every Tuesday and Friday. The only reason is habit though. It is pretty shite, in fact it's really, really shite these days. I tend to read about Saints, the hatches, matches and dispatches and the letters page ( although this is now really, really pish as well).. and chec out the photos. They have changed the print/format in the last few weeks and that has made it even worse..And at 90p a stab it is ****ing awful value especially Tuesday when it's thinner than a Lehman Brothers emploees wallet..I think that they should drop the Tuesday edition all together and go for a thick , better Friday edition.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Beatson Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 The layout of it is hopeless now. Really don't like it at all. It reminds me of when I did the uni newspaper, and even then, our production values were just about better. And this was a paper produced by hungover (actually, most of the time still drunk) students with no money and with full-time degree courses and part-time jobs to contend with. The problem now is that the paper's editor also edits the Stirling Observer now, so I'd imagine the leadership is disappearing - probably not helped by the fact that long-time staffer Les Stewart, the deputy editor, is also on his way out. Also, the paper is subbed in Stirling by a small team who also have the Stirling Observer, Stirling News, Strathearn Herald and probably more to deal with. That doesn't help with quality in terms of spelling, grammar and layout. The reporters are good and try their hardest, but as far as I can tell (and this is from speaking to former employees) there's no real incentive to go a step further and make it a better paper. The same goes for the Stirling Observer, which is a truly god-awful newspaper these days. The common theme? Both Scottish and Universal Newspapers, owned by Trinity Mirror. Contrast these papers to, for example, the Alloa Advertiser and the Wee County News - two papers in a small town which are fighting against each other, and as a result produce decent papers that, albeit pretty thin, are full of decent content and have driven staff. The same goes for the Falkirk Herald - probably the best local paper in Scotland for my money. Its coverage of the area is superb, as is its sport. Put it this way, you'll see stories from Alloa and Falkirk's local papers constantly followed up in the national press. It happens much less often with stories from the PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlickDT Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 The Tuesday edition is a complete waste of money, the Friday isn't too much better. The paper is dire now and I'm willing to bet if you took away the Saints section its sales would halve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Saint Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 101 should have his own section on this website, the guy is a genius. I know him personally and can confirm that he's a d***. Mooner wouldn't even speak to me today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Tuesday addition up 5p to 90p:Personally i only buy it for Saints stuff and the occasional photo! Dont know what the friday addition will be up yet but i assume it will go up too! Does any one else think its poor value now a-days? does any one still buy it? i agree with you.i dont think they even warned us about a price rise.i think we are subsidising the perth shopper junk that comes through our letterboxes.as i have said before the PA lost its way ages ago.very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 The layout of it is hopeless now. Really don't like it at all. It reminds me of when I did the uni newspaper, and even then, our production values were just about better. And this was a paper produced by hungover (actually, most of the time still drunk) students with no money and with full-time degree courses and part-time jobs to contend with. . OFF TOPIC TIME but has to be said .the above is one reason students shouldnt get cheaper entry to fooball or any other discounts.they are always bleeting about being hard done by but like a good sesh,spending all there money on booze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 Always really disappoints me when I go back to Perth to see what's become of the PA. The Saints coverage is still excellent, but the rest of the paper has become pretty horrendous - far too tabloidy and interested in mounting various campaigns about not-very-much. My impression of it now is also that there seems to be an increasing amount of non-Perth stuff - the most obvious example being the music section, which used to be all about local Perth bands and gigs, but often now seems to carry reviews of stuff that's happened in Weegieland and the like. Personally, I lost all faith in it after it published a Rangers competition a few years back and the editor responded by implying that those who complained about it were bigots. Never really accepted the paper in the same way after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 the above is one reason students shouldnt get cheaper entry to fooball or any other discounts.they are always bleeting about being hard done by but like a good sesh,spending all there money on booze. Ditto the elderly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carhartt-saintee Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 i agree with you.i dont think they even warned us about a price rise.i think we are subsidising the perth shopper junk that comes through our letterboxes.as i have said before the PA lost its way ages ago.very sad. that still around?? i haven't seen one of those in yonks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Beatson Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Just a note - a series of off-topic posts have been shifted from this thread - you'll now find them in Chit Chat merged into another, more relevant, thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan loves saints Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 waste of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike180279 Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I only read it to see who was going to Jail, as I have been out of the town for 8 years the people I once knew must either all be inside, or deid. These new criminals are not known by me! I have a quick scan when I am at my folks house, usually every other Saturday but wouldnt pay good money for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PERTHPOWER Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Used to buy the PA on both Tuesday and Friday, now only purchase the Friday edition on a weekly basis, but, occasionally will buy the Tuesday edition if there are pictures of family or friends in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myDarlingBeefeater Posted December 4, 2009 Report Share Posted December 4, 2009 Beatson made some good points about its decline. It's absolute guff now. It's really just a lifestyle rag (like Chat, Take-a-break or That's Life) in newsprint and spends too much time peddling the editor's vacuous social agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Beatson Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 To bump this back up, today's PA has really pissed me off. Ridiculous. Yesterday a Coupar Angus man was convicted of murdering another local teenager by stabbing him 11 times and dumping his body in a burn on the outskirts of the town. You may think a major national news story like this would be all over the front of the PA, with a court report, a series of pictures, perhaps some interviews with family/friends, reaction from police and prosecutors and some background on it. What do we have instead? 10 paragraphs on an inside page with no pictures or anything, which were lifted from STV's website then butchered and rewritten in a god-awful manner. They didn't even bother to send a reporter the 20 miles down to the court in Dundee for the verdict. And what's on the front page? Something featurey and fluffy about two boys who have joined the army and who "recently" (note - that could have been any time in the last three months I reckon) had a passing out party and donated the money to Help for Heroes. Admirable indeed, but not a strong hard news story by any means. Really poor stuff, and indicative of the state of the paper these days. Saints coverage is still top-notch, but as a journalist this kind of thing really irritates me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiguelSimao Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 (edited) To bump this back up, today's PA has really pissed me off. Ridiculous. Yesterday a Coupar Angus man was convicted of murdering another local teenager by stabbing him 11 times and dumping his body in a burn on the outskirts of the town. You may think a major national news story like this would be all over the front of the PA, with a court report, a series of pictures, perhaps some interviews with family/friends, reaction from police and prosecutors and some background on it. What do we have instead? 10 paragraphs on an inside page with no pictures or anything, which were lifted from STV's website then butchered and rewritten in a god-awful manner. They didn't even bother to send a reporter the 20 miles down to the court in Dundee for the verdict. And what's on the front page? Something featurey and fluffy about two boys who have joined the army and who "recently" (note - that could have been any time in the last three months I reckon) had a passing out party and donated the money to Help for Heroes. Admirable indeed, but not a strong hard news story by any means. Really poor stuff, and indicative of the state of the paper these days. Saints coverage is still top-notch, but as a journalist this kind of thing really irritates me! That's ludicrous. Whoever's editing the PA these days is either incompetent or doesn't give a ****. By contrast The Courier - which, incidentally, is also not a paper I rate - had it front page, with an additional full inside page of background and reaction. I'd imagine the PA is existing purely thanks to habitual buyers now. There's just no reason for anyone to go out of their way to buy it any more. Edited August 24, 2010 by MiguelSimao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjfc99 Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 This of course is a paper which ran on its front and an inside page a few weeks ago the story about a junkie's dog which is about to be destroyed for biting a police man. It has seem to go downhill really quickly over the last few weeks, perhaps I've just read more of dennis browns drivel which seems to pass as newsworthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wish i was Joe McGurn Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 total rank newspaper now. Went right downhill in the last ten years. Even way before the downturn it turned into a rag. Only decent thing is the sports. But for the money, really it ain't worth it. Don't buy it when in perth, don't miss it when in dundee, sad as i grew up with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Bar Toilet Attendant Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 It's quite sad because when it's gone we'll all lament it's demise. As someone who left Perth 20 years, I still enjoy it but I guess that's the rose tinted spectacles. I always buy it in Perth but more for the chance of seeing someone from school getting married/getting the jail etc. Think the Saints coverage is still good. As an informative newspaper it just seems a bit twee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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