Jimmy Wallace Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 It is confirmed on the official site that the North Stand is likely to go, albeit to be replaced by either a smaller stand or something other than a fence, to make way for a new road. Now that this is more than just an idea, how do you feel about it? My gut reaction initially was "over my dead body", which I'm sure Geoff would have been only too happy to see (only joking Mr B!), but given the state of football and the lack of fans in the ground, I'm not sure we can really blame the club for going along with this. I still think it will ruin a small but perfectly formed stadium, but maybe the traffic noise will help make up for the lack of atmosphere! So do we man the barricades or grudgingly agree that this is the way we have to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Son of Fairbairn Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Demolish all the stands and bring back terracing ! Standing room only ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodgers Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 When I first heard about this I was completely against it however after reading the article on the official web site, I’m starting to change my mind. We will still have a capacity of over 8,000 which only ever gets filled for old firm games. We gain some compensation which would be put towards improvements for the club. He also states that they would put something in to replace it such as a small stand, how about make that part terracing? It’s a change to our stadium that I think puts people off the idea because we're losing a stand however the club would benefit this. I trust Geoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhs Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Saints are a club that need to make money - which we will from this. Away fans can go in the Ormond stand instead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby kemp Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I Dont think the jehovahs will be too happy, probably change the venue now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 It will depend on what the proposal is to replace it with. One thing though, it will surely kill the atmosphere at the scoreboard end completely (on the rare occasion there is any these days). Would the proposal then be for away fans to occupy the Ormond stand, or will they always be housed in the north end of the main stand? How would that affect travelling support, as it is more expensive? The family section would probably have to be moved as well if away fans go into the Ormond, which some who are used to sitting at that end of the stadium may not be too pleased with. Still a lot of questions..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingaporeSaint Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 The stadium is too big for Perth footballing purposes. Even for OF games we only get 6/7 k. The days of packed stadiums like "the Airdrie game" are LONG gone. In these changing times, we need to be realistic. If we can make money out of letting go the fourth stand and re-adjsuting the stadium , well let's do it. I am 100% behind this as long as St Johnstone Football club benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingaporeSaint Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 It will depend on what the proposal is to replace it with. One thing though, it will surely kill the atmosphere at the scoreboard end completely (on the rare occasion there is any these days). Would the proposal then be for away fans to occupy the Ormond stand, or will they always be housed in the north end of the main stand? How would that affect travelling support, as it is more expensive? The family section would probably have to be moved as well if away fans go into the Ormond, which some who are used to sitting at that end of the stadium may not be too pleased with. Still a lot of questions..... Your questions are of minor importance when looking at the bigger picture and all, I am sure will be readily resolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Your questions are of minor importance when looking at the bigger picture and all, I am sure will be readily resolved. Agreed, but it is often the minor details that get the punters onside when pushing through a proposal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby kemp Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Like it or lump it the stand IS going. one thing is certain though once whatever money we get has been spent, the stand will never be replaced and will be gone forever. i personally would like to see terracing in its place when it does go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingaporeSaint Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 i personally would like to see terracing in its place when it does go. I like that idea as well BUT is it legal ? and does it meet SPL qualification standards ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby kemp Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I like that idea as well BUT is it legal ? and does it meet SPL qualification standards ?? I am sure they could change the regulations to suit. Then maybe other clubs may try it.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I like that idea as well BUT is it legal ? and does it meet SPL qualification standards ?? I see Celtic are trying to get a section of terracing allowed for the 'Green Brigade' to use. As much as I hate them, it might give some weight to any proposal we have for terracing. Only thing is, would you trade a seat alongside the pitch to stand behind a goal? I generally hate being behind the goals, especially if relatively 'low down' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingaporeSaint Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I see Celtic are trying to get a section of terracing allowed for the 'Green Brigade' to use. As much as I hate them, it might give some weight to any proposal we have for terracing. Only thing is, would you trade a seat alongside the pitch to stand behind a goal? I generally hate being behind the goals, especially if relatively 'low down' Well there you go ! You would accept terracing as long as it suits YOU. This is the unity problem we are going to have. With the proposals, of course the terracing is behind the goals ! Would you be allowed to bring in a soap box, then you could be higher ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Beatson Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I wouldn't be entirely against it if there was another, smaller, stand build in the same space, especially if they found a way to maintain the same kind of roofline as is currently there. That way the appearance of the stadium doesn't change massively and we get a big influx of money over a period of many, many years as compensation. If it was just going to be a big empty space that would be pretty chronic though. I just wonder if the long game here isn't to make the transport links with the land even better than they currently are, then sell the entire site and move to a new ground, around about 8000 capacity, somewhere else in the Perth area. If they're intending on building new homes on the other side of McDiarmid and the proposed new road then the site of McDiarmid itself would be prime land - or perfect for some kind of industrial/retail distribution hub linked straight on to the main road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) Well there you go ! You would accept terracing as long as it suits YOU. This is the unity problem we are going to have. With the proposals, of course the terracing is behind the goals ! Would you be allowed to bring in a soap box, then you could be higher ?? Calm down!! I think if you read my post properly you will decipher that I would support terracing, am aware that it would be behind the goal, but merely added in that I, personally, am not sure that I would use it as I prefer being alongside the pitch for a better view. Edited October 7, 2011 by Edstar101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 In basic terms it's a case of a keeping a four-sided 10,000 seat stadium or making some money over, what appears will be, an extended period of time. Really though, I don't think we've been told much about the plans and notice a bit in the PA that has been left off the official site that mentions a corner of the East Stand, although it's not clear if it's talking about the stand itself or just the land behind it. If the club/council sell this properly to the fans, I'd think there might be little opposition. If we can make money over the long-term, put something in place that will generate income (gym?) and have a stand/terracing in place, it seems like the right move for hte club. Saints were leaders when McDiarmid Park became the first purpose built all seated stadium, so it would be interesting to see us explore the safe terracing thing. Jamie could be onto something though with this being part of a bigger plan to move away from McDiarmid Park eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJ Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 http://www.saintsrlfc.com/tickets/page/1149 The new St Helens RLFC stadium is 18,000 capacity, 10,000 seats and 8,000 standing on terracings behind each goal. Why are they allowed to do this yet football clubs aren't? After all, all-seater stadia are there for safety reasons and nothing else. If we go for an out of proportion tiny stand behind the north goal we can get Aviva to buy the naming rights so that they can twin us with the Aviva/Lansdowne Road in Dublin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Bar Toilet Attendant Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I would love it if they replaced it with a standing area! Mixed emotions as I think it will ruin the aesthetic of the ground but will take the dosh. No, memories tied to it as I have never sat foot in it! Has anyone??? Maybe for the Monaco game?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Wallace Posted October 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I would love it if they replaced it with a standing area! Mixed emotions as I think it will ruin the aesthetic of the ground but will take the dosh. No, memories tied to it as I have never sat foot in it! Has anyone??? Maybe for the Monaco game?? The only time I was ever in it was when they did a fire evacuation exercise. You had to turn up early, but got a free ticket to the game that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingaporeSaint Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 http://www.saintsrlfc.com/tickets/page/1149 The new St Helens RLFC stadium is 18,000 capacity, 10,000 seats and 8,000 standing on terracings behind each goal. Why are they allowed to do this yet football clubs aren't? After all, all-seater stadia are there for safety reasons and nothing else. If we go for an out of proportion tiny stand behind the north goal we can get Aviva to buy the naming rights so that they can twin us with the Aviva/Lansdowne Road in Dublin. Maybe something to do with the knuckle dragging old firm neathandrels that we require to put up with ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Has anyone??? Maybe for the Monaco game?? I watched Dundee beat ICT 3-2 in the Challenge Cup Final in it... I'm for knocking it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I was in it for the Vassa game, only time I have ever been in it. Is the club aware that the away fans would be closer to Ghostie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SingaporeSaint Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Away fans are close to Ghostie. Have you not read all the love-ins he has on P&B....disgusting ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryangordon86 Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 I just wonder if the long game here isn't to make the transport links with the land even better than they currently are, then sell the entire site and move to a new ground, around about 8000 capacity, somewhere else in the Perth area. If they're intending on building new homes on the other side of McDiarmid and the proposed new road then the site of McDiarmid itself would be prime land - or perfect for some kind of industrial/retail distribution hub linked straight on to the main road. I was thinking the same thing, he may be selling this small section at a higher than Market price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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