Pat McGroin Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 I was always under the impression that Saints were gifted the land. When someone mentioned the other day that we valued it at £300k+ that we paid several years ago, I assumed that that was just the tax on the value of the land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Drummonds Perm Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 No it was for shares in the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Drummonds Perm Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Seems Bob Reid is Bruce McDiarmid's nephew. The 20 percent share was what Bruce got in exchange for his land so I assume Bob inherited them when Bruce died. I think they'd of been transfered to his nephew after his death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethamsaintee Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Whatever the rights of BBD's grudge, to hold up Duff, who was a paid member of the Saints staff for many years, as now hard directors should work just shoots himself in the foot big style. As a PR man he was guilty of stifling all attempts to promote the club. He was a Dental Flosser. How anyone has anything good to say about the man is beyond my comprehension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Bye bye Dundee should read today's pa and courier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy rhodes fancy watch Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 I was always under the impression that Saints were gifted the land. When someone mentioned the other day that we valued it at £300k+ that we paid several years ago, I assumed that that was just the tax on the value of the land. Not one person has said we paid £300,000 . Think it was a pound (donation if you like) to transfer the land . McD and all other land is valued in the accounts at £315,000 . When in real terms it's worth at least 10x that , we're minted . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Daily Record have ran the interview with Steve too. Link below. Chances are the Courier and PA will have a fuller interview too, I'd imagine. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stevie-would-become-st-johnstones-4038788 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Bye bye Dundee should read today's pa and courier What does it say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belfastsaintee Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 any links to PA or Courier appreciated. Read the Daily Record article and Broon makes good points. Time to move on and spend the Stevie May wages on a couple of fresh faces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 The PA site seems to just be the Daily Record these days and the Courier does not have the story online yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Col Kojak Slaphead II Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Here is the article from the PA. Stevie May rejected terms which would have made him the best paid player in St Johnstone history. The 21-year-old Perth pin-up was officially paraded yesterday by Sheffield Wednesday after clinching a lucrative four year deal at the Championship club over the weekend – opting for the Owls rather than Rotherham United. Saints have banked £800,000-plus for the prolific striker who came through the youth ranks to bang in 27 goals in his debut season in the top flight. With his rock star image, straggly hair and wall to wall tattoos, May had become a cult hero with Saints supporters and played a key role in steering the club to their first ever Scottish Cup win. Had he signed a longer term deal Saints would have been demanding much more from suitors from England. But yesterday chairman Steve Brown explained why his hand was forced by interest from the Yorkshire rivals when May declined to pen an extension to a deal which ran out next summer – leaving the club open to bargain hunters come Christmas, when he was free to talk to interested clubs. Brown said: we made Stevie the offer of a longer term deal which would have made him the best paid player in St Johnstone history. He has been here since he was 12 but it was becoming clear that while he had enjoyed his time at the club last season in particular, he felt he had to evolve and develop. Stevie is a young and ambitious guy like some of the managers we have had here. Guys like Owen Coyle, Derek McInnes and Steve Lomas all headed south. We didn’t stand in their way. When it became clear that was what Stevie wanted we couldn’t stand in his way either. We had sat down and offered him very good terms to exten a contract which was up next summer. Believe me, we did all we could to keep him. But the player wants to play in what is arguably a better division. Put yourself in his shoes and the next logical step was always going to be a move to England. It is as simple as that. And the fact is that we can’t compete with offers from the Championship, which is one of the richest leagues in world football. It could well be a stepping stone to the Premier League down – and hopefully it proves to be just that for Stevie. He is young and still developing and that has to be the ultimate goal for him. I’d also like to think he is on track for an international cap for Scotland. Its fair to say we’ve never been a club that gets recognised in that way. If he goes to England I’d like to think Stevie will fulfil his dream of playing for his country. And everyone here, the fans included will take pride in one of your own doing so well. Brown stressed ‘Taking everything in account this genuinely is good business for the club. Of course we’d have preferred not to be in a position where we had to sell Stevie. But the reality is that if you clock his way you end up with an unhappy player, you delay it and it caused all sorts of problems within the club or you take the money now or risk getting precious little in the way of compensation further down the line. It just the way of the world, Dundee Utd had to take £750,000 not so long ago for Johnny Russell when he had a year left on his contract. He was a full international when he went to Derby. I know Utd have sold Andy Robertson and Ryan Gauld for big money but they had been prepared to sign long term deals and they have gone to clubs in the Premier League down south or Portugal We had no bids from the Premier League but I suspect that’s where Stevie May is going to end up sooner or later. I completely relate to the fans’ views. If I am sitting there in the stands I’m trying to figure out what is going on. Why are we not getting more than this for a striker we have brought through the ranks and who scored 27 goals for us last season? That doesn’t happen very often at this club and it was great watching him develop here. But I have to work within certain parameters for the benefit of St Johnstone FC. The bottom line was that Stevie May didn’t want to sign another contract here. He wants to play in the Championship. So we had to dismiss our previous thoughts and focus on here and now. The player had 10 months left on his contract and it was my duty to get the best deal possible for St Johnstone. There were no other viable options. When it became obvious the player was intent on going we had to think what was best for the club. In an ideal world we’d have been able to keep Stevie May but we don’t live in an ideal world. Now we have to look to the future and left here after Stevie May. And he goes to Wednesday with out very best wishes. May, from Newburgh scored his first goal on his debut five years ago as a sub against Airdrie Utd and signed off with a strike against Spartak Trnava. He said ‘Leaving Saints is a wrench but last season was a great one for everyone at the club and I think we did ourselves proud in this season’s Europa Leagues so it’s a good way to bow out. I want to say a huge thank you to everyone at the club – the gaffer and all the staff, the other players, everyone else involved at the club and especially to the fans – the way they have treated me since I got involved in the first team has been unbelievable and I’ll never forget it. croc, Pelosi, Kyle and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Child Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) Cant read that my eyes go funny. Edited August 12, 2014 by Saintly Child Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Col Kojak Slaphead II Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Cant read that my eyes go funny. my apologies, here was me thinking I was doing you a favour by posting it for those not able to get their hands on a copy of a PA today. I should have really thought about your delicate eyes. please again accept my apology. croc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Here is the article from the PA. Stevie May rejected terms which would have made him the best paid player in St Johnstone history. The 21-year-old Perth pin-up was officially paraded yesterday by Sheffield Wednesday after clinching a lucrative four year deal at the Championship club over the weekend – opting for the Owls rather than Rotherham United. Saints have banked £800,000-plus for the prolific striker who came through the youth ranks to bang in 27 goals in his debut season in the top flight. With his rock star image, straggly hair and wall to wall tattoos, May had become a cult hero with Saints supporters and played a key role in steering the club to their first ever Scottish Cup win. Had he signed a longer term deal Saints would have been demanding much more from suitors from England. But yesterday chairman Steve Brown explained why his hand was forced by interest from the Yorkshire rivals when May declined to pen an extension to a deal which ran out next summer – leaving the club open to bargain hunters come Christmas, when he was free to talk to interested clubs. Brown said: we made Stevie the offer of a longer term deal which would have made him the best paid player in St Johnstone history. He has been here since he was 12 but it was becoming clear that while he had enjoyed his time at the club last season in particular, he felt he had to evolve and develop. Stevie is a young and ambitious guy like some of the managers we have had here. Guys like Owen Coyle, Derek McInnes and Steve Lomas all headed south. We didn’t stand in their way. When it became clear that was what Stevie wanted we couldn’t stand in his way either. We had sat down and offered him very good terms to exten a contract which was up next summer. Believe me, we did all we could to keep him. But the player wants to play in what is arguably a better division. Put yourself in his shoes and the next logical step was always going to be a move to England. It is as simple as that. And the fact is that we can’t compete with offers from the Championship, which is one of the richest leagues in world football. It could well be a stepping stone to the Premier League down – and hopefully it proves to be just that for Stevie. He is young and still developing and that has to be the ultimate goal for him. I’d also like to think he is on track for an international cap for Scotland. Its fair to say we’ve never been a club that gets recognised in that way. If he goes to England I’d like to think Stevie will fulfil his dream of playing for his country. And everyone here, the fans included will take pride in one of your own doing so well. Brown stressed ‘Taking everything in account this genuinely is good business for the club. Of course we’d have preferred not to be in a position where we had to sell Stevie. But the reality is that if you clock his way you end up with an unhappy player, you delay it and it caused all sorts of problems within the club or you take the money now or risk getting precious little in the way of compensation further down the line. It just the way of the world, Dundee Utd had to take £750,000 not so long ago for Johnny Russell when he had a year left on his contract. He was a full international when he went to Derby. I know Utd have sold Andy Robertson and Ryan Gauld for big money but they had been prepared to sign long term deals and they have gone to clubs in the Premier League down south or Portugal We had no bids from the Premier League but I suspect that’s where Stevie May is going to end up sooner or later. I completely relate to the fans’ views. If I am sitting there in the stands I’m trying to figure out what is going on. Why are we not getting more than this for a striker we have brought through the ranks and who scored 27 goals for us last season? That doesn’t happen very often at this club and it was great watching him develop here. But I have to work within certain parameters for the benefit of St Johnstone FC. The bottom line was that Stevie May didn’t want to sign another contract here. He wants to play in the Championship. So we had to dismiss our previous thoughts and focus on here and now. The player had 10 months left on his contract and it was my duty to get the best deal possible for St Johnstone. There were no other viable options. When it became obvious the player was intent on going we had to think what was best for the club. In an ideal world we’d have been able to keep Stevie May but we don’t live in an ideal world. Now we have to look to the future and left here after Stevie May. And he goes to Wednesday with out very best wishes. May, from Newburgh scored his first goal on his debut five years ago as a sub against Airdrie Utd and signed off with a strike against Spartak Trnava. He said ‘Leaving Saints is a wrench but last season was a great one for everyone at the club and I think we did ourselves proud in this season’s Europa Leagues so it’s a good way to bow out. I want to say a huge thank you to everyone at the club – the gaffer and all the staff, the other players, everyone else involved at the club and especially to the fans – the way they have treated me since I got involved in the first team has been unbelievable and I’ll never forget it. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craiginasaintsstrip Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Excellent article, yes in an ideal world, he'd have been on a 5 year contract and we'd rake in millions but it's the way the world works. Also sixties saintee, please don't quote a 6 paragraph article just to say cheers at the bottom. You can just hit quote and then type something like *words* in the quote box. *words* far easier on the eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Really enjoyed reading that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Excellent article, yes in an ideal world, he'd have been on a 5 year contract and we'd rake in millions but it's the way the world works. Also sixties saintee, please don't quote a 6 paragraph article just to say cheers at the bottom. You can just hit quote and then type something like *words* in the quote box. far easier on the eye I consider myself told off craiginasaintsstrip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEccles621 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 In answer to the thread questions: Yes / No Kyle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belfastsaintee Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 thanks for the link fair play to Broon , feeling a lot better after reading this and after TW was signed up. lets get a couple of fresh faces in now and move onwards and upwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al C Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Here is the article from the PA.Stevie May rejected terms which would have made him the best paid player in St Johnstone history.The 21-year-old Perth pin-up was officially paraded yesterday by Sheffield Wednesday after clinching a lucrative four year deal at the Championship club over the weekend – opting for the Owls rather than Rotherham United.Saints have banked £800,000-plus for the prolific striker who came through the youth ranks to bang in 27 goals in his debut season in the top flight.With his rock star image, straggly hair and wall to wall tattoos, May had become a cult hero with Saints supporters and played a key role in steering the club to their first ever Scottish Cup win.Had he signed a longer term deal Saints would have been demanding much more from suitors from England. But yesterday chairman Steve Brown explained why his hand was forced by interest from the Yorkshire rivals when May declined to pen an extension to a deal which ran out next summer – leaving the club open to bargain hunters come Christmas, when he was free to talk to interested clubs.Brown said: we made Stevie the offer of a longer term deal which would have made him the best paid player in St Johnstone history. He has been here since he was 12 but it was becoming clear that while he had enjoyed his time at the club last season in particular, he felt he had to evolve and develop.Stevie is a young and ambitious guy like some of the managers we have had here. Guys like Owen Coyle, Derek McInnes and Steve Lomas all headed south. We didn’t stand in their way. When it became clear that was what Stevie wanted we couldn’t stand in his way either. We had sat down and offered him very good terms to exten a contract which was up next summer. Believe me, we did all we could to keep him. But the player wants to play in what is arguably a better division. Put yourself in his shoes and the next logical step was always going to be a move to England. It is as simple as that. And the fact is that we can’t compete with offers from the Championship, which is one of the richest leagues in world football. It could well be a stepping stone to the Premier League down – and hopefully it proves to be just that for Stevie. He is young and still developing and that has to be the ultimate goal for him. I’d also like to think he is on track for an international cap for Scotland. Its fair to say we’ve never been a club that gets recognised in that way. If he goes to England I’d like to think Stevie will fulfil his dream of playing for his country. And everyone here, the fans included will take pride in one of your own doing so well.Brown stressed ‘Taking everything in account this genuinely is good business for the club. Of course we’d have preferred not to be in a position where we had to sell Stevie. But the reality is that if you clock his way you end up with an unhappy player, you delay it and it caused all sorts of problems within the club or you take the money now or risk getting precious little in the way of compensation further down the line.It just the way of the world, Dundee Utd had to take £750,000 not so long ago for Johnny Russell when he had a year left on his contract. He was a full international when he went to Derby. I know Utd have sold Andy Robertson and Ryan Gauld for big money but they had been prepared to sign long term deals and they have gone to clubs in the Premier League down south or PortugalWe had no bids from the Premier League but I suspect that’s where Stevie May is going to end up sooner or later. I completely relate to the fans’ views. If I am sitting there in the stands I’m trying to figure out what is going on. Why are we not getting more than this for a striker we have brought through the ranks and who scored 27 goals for us last season? That doesn’t happen very often at this club and it was great watching him develop here.But I have to work within certain parameters for the benefit of St Johnstone FC. The bottom line was that Stevie May didn’t want to sign another contract here. He wants to play in the Championship. So we had to dismiss our previous thoughts and focus on here and now.The player had 10 months left on his contract and it was my duty to get the best deal possible for St Johnstone. There were no other viable options. When it became obvious the player was intent on going we had to think what was best for the club. In an ideal world we’d have been able to keep Stevie May but we don’t live in an ideal world. Now we have to look to the future and left here after Stevie May. And he goes to Wednesday with out very best wishes.May, from Newburgh scored his first goal on his debut five years ago as a sub against Airdrie Utd and signed off with a strike against Spartak Trnava. He said ‘Leaving Saints is a wrench but last season was a great one for everyone at the club and I think we did ourselves proud in this season’s Europa Leagues so it’s a good way to bow out. I want to say a huge thank you to everyone at the club – the gaffer and all the staff, the other players, everyone else involved at the club and especially to the fans – the way they have treated me since I got involved in the first team has been unbelievable and I’ll never forget it. Cheers Kyle and garydavidson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lossiesaint Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 So it looks like once again Mr Brown has the best interests of the club at mind. Never any doubt really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balhousie Blue 1884 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 The answer to the thread question is YES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balhousie Blue 1884 Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Correction. Yes, he`s Qualified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanginSaint Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Good statement from the chairman , hopefully reassures all the panic merchants on here..... But I wont hold my breath... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 I don't think he has to. Fans don't have a right to this information. We're paying customers of a business. Loyal paying customers but customers all the same. Shareholders have more of right to know what's going on but that's where it should end. If there were any REAL worries about what was happening behind the scenes then I'd maybe agree but things are and always do tick over just fine at Saints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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