Inchcolm Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Today is the anniversary of us entering World War I let us take time to remember our players who went off to do their duty and never came back John Cameron St Johnstone Alexander Halkett, Dundee, Aberdeen, St Johnstone Thomas Alexander Jackson, St Mirren, St Johnstone (Scottish International) William MacPherson St Johnstone David McWalter, St Johnstone Herbert Murray, Clyde, Aberdeen, Queen’s Park, St Johnstone, Motherwell Bertram Sampson, St Johnstone Charles Scott, Rangers, St Johnstone They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning, We will remember them. If I have missed anyone please add them to the list Balhousie Blue 1884, Benito Kemble, essexsaint and 21 others 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchcolm Posted August 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 I found the article on the net My story is regarding our grandfather Bertram Sampson who was born 17 Jan 1886 in Perth Scotland, and died 23 April 1917 in the Battle of Arras, France & Flanders. His regiment was the 1st/7th Black Watch (Royal Highlanders). The Battalion suffered heavy casualties, 25 other ranks killed and 123 wounded. In 1916 Bertram was sent home on Compassionate Leave as he sustained a "shrapnel wound" to his neck, he recovered and was sent back to fight once again, but sadly was K.I.A. leaving a wife and six children. Before he enlisted Bertram was a professional football player with the local team St Johnstone, in the centre half back position. His registration with the Scottish Football Assoc. was dated 14th May 1907, at the age of 21. From the age of 16 he was an avid football player, and played with many local junior teams. The St Johnstone team lost eight of their players in the First World War. Our grandfather Bertram is mentioned quite extensively in the very rare copy of the "Official St Johnstone FC History from 1886-1997", along with his grandson (my brother Brian Sampson} who also played professional football for St Johnstone, our local team. Bertram is buried in the Brown's Copse Cemetery, Roeux, France. PauloPerth, AthensSaint, Coltrane and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Great posts, and good on you for the reminder. We will remember them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 We will remember them. Kind of puts things in perspective. What a great post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Jenkins Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Good post. I don't think any of us can comprehend what these guys were thrust into and how they faced it. And I can't help but wonder oh Willy McBrideDo all those who lie here know why they diedDid you really believe them when they told you the causeDid you really believe that this war would end warsWell the suffering, the sorrow, the glory, the shameThe killing and dying it was all done in vainOh Willy McBride it all happened againAnd again, and again, and again, and again Oldermoresensiblepack and PauloPerth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born2Bru Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Great post. We need to remember all 9 milliion (!!!) that died. I will in particular be remembering Johnny Cameron, my pal Steve's grandfather's brother. He stayed with the club many years and would, I suppose, have had a testimonial like Ando,if he had been around today. It is important that we keep remembering them all. ejksjfc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Guys, we're being asked to turn everything off and sit in the dark just to have a wee think for 1 minute at 11pm tonight. Imagine being 18 years old, with a rare bird at home, everything in front of you. And then you have to climb out of a rat-infested trench and get machine-gunned to death because some blokes in suits had an argument. These pieces of lead usually hit at stomach or thigh level. With no hope of medical support, you bled to death, or died in agony from infection in a hospital. And still it goes on. 11pm. Turn the lights off. PauloPerth, Inchcolm, sixties saintee and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Abernethy you are close. It is 10pm and it is for an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepless Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 and you're allowed a candle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Oh right! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Ah feck that. Our candles lit now, for my uncle who was taken in WW2, and god knows how many in WW1. Family reckon it was 6 0r seven. They died so we could be free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizfit Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Don't think there is any direct blood relative that died (That i know off) Both my Great grandparents served with the Black watch in WW2, Admittedly i do not know much about my family in WW1, but will look into doing some research this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Today is the anniversary of us entering World War I let us take time to remember our players who went off to do their duty and never came back John Cameron St Johnstone Alexander Halkett, Dundee, Aberdeen, St Johnstone Thomas Alexander Jackson, St Mirren, St Johnstone (Scottish International) William MacPherson St Johnstone David McWalter, St Johnstone Herbert Murray, Clyde, Aberdeen, Queen’s Park, St Johnstone, Motherwell Bertram Sampson, St Johnstone Charles Scott, Rangers, St Johnstone They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning, We will remember them. If I have missed anyone please add them to the list Thanks for Posting this Inchcolm, everything else Pales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 Lest we forget.When will it ever end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jad Posted August 4, 2014 Report Share Posted August 4, 2014 We will remember them. Will light a candle for them and others, plus take time to remember my mum and dad who both served during WWII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerthSeany Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 It does make you realise we are very lucky. Bickering amoungst ourselves about drival . Is May going to Rotherham. At least we don't have to go through things like they did. Puts things in perspective john.w and PauloPerth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) Inchcolm, thanks for posting this. WAP is more than just an online footie site, its a community. We have a couple brave forces laddies including StanleySaint on here, my prayers in reading things are that no harm comes to them. Also, I dont know if you read about the Pompey new strip for this season, what a lovely commemeration. Edited August 5, 2014 by AthensSaint john.w 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferg Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Great thread, thanks for putting it up. WAP at it's best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Inchcolm, thanks for posting this. WAP is more than just an online footie site, its a community. We have a couple brave forces laddies including StanleySaint on here, my prayers in reading things are that no harm comes to them. Also, I dont know if you read about the Pompey new strip for this season, what a lovely commemeration. Agree Athens, great touch by Pompey. Think Hearts' strip is also a tribute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 I genuinely had no idea we suffered such losses. Why is this never mentioned around this time of year by the club. Hearts always make a big deal over those lost fighting for King and country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 RESPECT. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 I genuinely had no idea we suffered such losses. Why is this never mentioned around this time of year by the club. Hearts always make a big deal over those lost fighting for King and country. P Mc, As time moves on, its a tough one to know when to stop commemarting the anniversary dates is difficult. A couple of lads on here Sangin and Stanley are big Saints fans and have put their life on line without hesitation for "king and country". Wish sometimes Saints would honour the lads that come back for R and R. One day they are on patrol knowing there is huge risk and fact they could get killed or maimed, next minute they are back at camp wondering what the saints score is. LIke my friend slf said, RESPECT. Oldermoresensiblepack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Does Stanley Saint not just sit about on his erse all day in an equipment store or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Does Stanley Saint not just sit about on his erse all day in an equipment store or something I am pretty sure he was involved in sheep "shearing" on the Falklands recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted August 6, 2014 Report Share Posted August 6, 2014 Does Stanley Saint not just sit about on his erse all day in an equipment store or something Dont disrespect this thread please Ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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