Kinnoull Kicker Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 As I have said previously he made a bit off a prat himself but does not deserve a life ban. Down to the mods / beatson now. Absolutely. Time to get this sorted. John will know full well that he went too far but the other protagonist involved in the unsavoury exchange should do the decent thing and request his reinstatement. Come on mods it's not beyond the wit of man to sort this out with appropriate cautions. uphallsaint and sixties saintee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzsaint Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 I think we should send this to the compliance officer! If Athens accepts then he should get a two game ban! This is an excellent forum with good mods and great banter I hope common sense prevails! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 He dosent help himself, had a go at Abernethy, Montrose and think it was Rik , what he said to Montrose was out of order and I told him so, what he said to Monty was along the lines of what mates say in Banter and correct me if I am wrong he has never met him so definitely out off line. But I would not like to see him Banned, he is just a old blinkered Tory doing his bit in the colonies, + I want my Programme from Andos testimonial. What he said to me was out of line, but not unprovoked, and we exchanged lengthy PMs afterwards and 'kissed and made up'. An arse at times, but not poisonous like some people have been in the past on here. I've been an arse on here too, many times. Lots of us have. Not poisonous though. Cleveland-Saint, Dave Ferg and sixties saintee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnoull Kicker Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 What he said to me was out of line, but not unprovoked, and we exchanged lengthy PMs afterwards and 'kissed and made up'. An arse at times, but not poisonous like some people have been in the past on here. I've been an arse on here too, many times. Lots of us have. Not poisonous though. Well said. Hope this goes some way getting matters resolved, Athens reinstated and friendly banter resumed Cleveland-Saint and MySpazz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySpazz Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Who knows what the guy will do with his life now- spent most if it on here. he'll be doing the same as you do when you are not making nearly 3000 posts on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySpazz Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 This forum is ****ed if you ban the likes of Athens. The fatwa is on the mods/moaners - not Athens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlickDT Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 he'll be doing the same as you do when you are not making nearly 3000 posts on here. Posts fairly add up after 9 years right enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 ARE YOU LISTENING MODS / MR BEATSON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I miss the moaning face, tax dodging tw*t MySpazz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chips Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Im sure hes sitting by his pool slurping a nice cold gin and tonic stressing about this forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Well said. Hope this goes some way getting matters resolved, Athens reinstated and friendly banter resumed What makes you think this was the confrontation that got him banned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySpazz Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Posts fairly add up after 9 years right enough. ------------ So no need to take a pop at Athens when you are hanging out on a board being equally garrulous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnoull Kicker Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 What makes you think this was the confrontation that got him banned? Well the thread that the mod referred to involved Montrose and Abernethy therefore it certainly points to it being the confrontation. Happy to stand corrected if not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Well yeah not montrose alone. And I see you said "some way" to resolving so apologies. I misread that bit. But I'd say it was more a the cumulative effect of many comments, but for me personally it was what was said to Abernethy that was the plainly the actions of a pathetic and horrible person. The straw that could break any camel's back I wasn't trying to justify everything Athens said either, I just wanted to set the record straight that there is no hard feeling between he and I, and I hope the mods are aware of that in any future decisions. I (stupidly) got involved because I objected to what he said to Abernethy and another comment elsewhere (not directed at anyone specific) and he reacted back to me. What was said between him and Abernethy remains none of my business and whether any hatchet was buried there is equally none of my business. Just trying to be clear by what I meant above. Jiangsu Sainty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejksjfc Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Is Singapore saint also banned? Abernethy Saint and MySpazz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnoull Kicker Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Well yeah not montrose alone. And I see you said "some way" to resolving so apologies. I misread that bit. But I'd say it was more a the cumulative effect of many comments, but for me personally it was what was said to Abernethy that was the plainly the actions of a pathetic and horrible person. The straw that could break any camel's back Everyone is entitled to their views. I do not believe anyone on here is seeking to defend what Athens wrote or the language used by others - it went far beyond what should be banter. I happen to have met Athens for the first time last year when he and his good lady could not have been more friendly, welcoming and helpful when my wife and I visited Athens. He certainly is not the person that you paint but all of us have done or said things that in hindisight we regret. I for one enjoy reading the many, varied sometimes obscure posts on this forum and I would say that Athens, Montrose and Abernethy... Not to mention the incomparable SLF.. top the list of entertainers. It is admirable that Montrose and Athens seem to have resolved matters off line. Hopefully the situation with Abernethy will also be resolved. we can agree to disagree but I think Athens should be reinstated with an appropriate shot over his bows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnoull Kicker Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 As I said it's likely that we have all said or done things that in hindsight we regret. I don't think we should pretend the incident never happened - perhaps an unambiguous post from the mods on the forum rules and sanctions covering personal abuse and disgusting language would not go amiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I do get what you're saying about hindsight, although I take comfort that at least I've never done that. With that in mind I too think allowing him back at some point after hes had some time to mull things over wouldn't be beyond the realms of decency (again noting the decision has nothing to do with me). I'll always remember though even if he is back, as I would anyone who resorted to that after a bit of mere online name-calling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 All I'd say is that with the benefit of having discussed things offline with Athens, I'd encourage Abernethy to do the same. It might not resolve the dispute, but it might. I think he might be surprised. I don't have Athen's email address - if anyone has it could they maybe PM it to me? Kinnoull Kicker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnoull Kicker Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I do get what you're saying about hindsight, although I take comfort that at least I've never done that. With that in mind I too think allowing him back at some point after hes had some time to mull things over wouldn't be beyond the realms of decency (again noting the decision has nothing to do with me). I'll always remember though even if he is back, as I would anyone who resorted to that after a bit of mere online name-calling What you think is "mere online name-calling" may not be how someone else describes and responds to it. that is not a defence for an abusive response but may help explain it. Let's just leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm only calling it such because thats what those defending Athens have tried to call the whole thing. Banter etc. Otherwise, its left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hilarious. Greeting because someone was banned from a private online forum. Ban well deserved from someone who over stepped the line many times. Jiangsu Sainty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Hey Billy no mates get back in the kitchen, no doubt you will report me again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Forum needs more racism,homophobia,misogyny and bullying imo. fazman1977, ex-montrosesaintee, jhq and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Just seen this thread. Not sure whether to respond really, but probably better to do it now than when I'm pissed. I always thought Athens was a braw poster in general. Bit dodgy on the PC stuff, but in a silly old Tory sort of way rather than the outright National Front stuff we occasionally get from a tiny, tiny minority on here. It all seemed to kick off when I advised him to remove a silly old Tory racist post, simply because I didn't want to see him banned. From that moment on, I got followed round the Forum. Dozens and dozens and dozens of posts claiming I didn't exist, he'd shagged my wife (he's feckin lucky I chose not to share them with her, btw, she'd tear him a new one - her Dad was the RSM of the Black Watch, and I truely don't recommend upsetting her), blah blah blah etc etc. it got seriously, seriously weird. I tried ignoring it, I tried being conciliatory, I tried explaining why most folk on here don't know me (as a service kid, I don't come from Perth, but my family do, and I've supported Saints since I knew what football was), and then I lost it and swore a lot, for which I make absolutely no apologies. I thought his attack on Monty, given what Monty has shared on here, was absolutely beneath contempt. So what Athens do you want back? If it's the idiot one, I don't want him back. Remember, this is the second time he has been banned. If you want funny daft old Tory back, then yes, absolutely, but will he stick to that? The daft thing about this is I still have absolutely no idea what this was all about. I assume he was channelling some anger or frustration in his private life. I haven't heard from Athens via pm ever. I have no idea how to get in touch with him, and no particular desire to, really. It's up to the Mods how they manage this site. You should note I've not been warned, or spoken to, ever. It is not up to me to resolve this. I'm not going to get into a dialogue on this. Like the rest of you, I have about 5,000 things more important to worry about than whether some over-excitable tax exile is allowed to post on the same footy site that I do. Meanwhile, I believe we're possibly 1 + 1 games away from a fourth year in Europe......? Kyle, Jiangsu Sainty, john.w and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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