Longgforgan Saint Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Really hope Tommy gets things sorted soon! Same problems as last season, poor squad selections and a slow start to the season. Cummins and Macca must start next game. Didnt pay for watching route one stuff IE long balls pelted to Sutton and O'Halloran being wasted by playing deeper than he should be. Love Tommy but hopefully this game was a wake up call and he will make the chnages necessary for our next game. COYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted August 8, 2015 Report Share Posted August 8, 2015 Sorry but does this really need a new thread ? There are already matchday threads where you could have vented your disappointment . auld reekie saint, Jiangsu Sainty, lmsaintee and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sconesjfc Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Yeah I think it needs it own thread. We have played 4 competitive games, 3 of which have we have been horrific up top. Granted the injuries didn't help at the European home game but he seems to persist with Sutton up top by himself. I'm sure 99% of the fans could have told you we need players around Sutton he needs someone to play off him. Why Wright thought it would be a good idea to do this again yesterday is beggars belief. Also if he insists on this 4-5-1 again this season it's going to be another pish poor watch. Longgforgan Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Stevie May Fan Club FB Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Really hope Tommy gets things sorted soon! Same problems as last season, poor squad selections and a slow start to the season. Cummins and Macca must start next game. Didnt pay for watching route one stuff IE long balls pelted to Sutton and O'Halloran being wasted by playing deeper than he should be. Love Tommy but hopefully this game was a wake up call and he will make the chnages necessary for our next game. COYS Are you serious? We are two games in to the season with three of our main players out injured. Calm down. Start getting worried if we are in the relegation zone with one game to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Are you serious? We are two games in to the season with three of our main players out injured. Calm down. Start getting worried if we are in the relegation zone with one game to go.  As much as I agree its far too early to get worried, your last statement is almost as stupid as the OPs point.  Biggest issue for me is we don't look any different from last season, its almost as if the manager is prepared to have another season scoring under a goal a game. While I can understand why he'd maybe think that would bring the same success, i can't imagine it will, seeing as the leagues stronger this year. We were fed lines the negative football was because he had no other option and was "pissing with the cock he was given", he was supported this Summer, yet after just 120 minutes of the new season he went straight back into the shitfest tactics of last season despite the fact we were at home and losing. Can't help but feel a more positive tactic once we'd gone behind and Caley seemed to settle for the one goal would've seen more goals and possibly a win, yet we played for a draw.  Hopefully he can find a medium he's happy with, but given a choice between entertaining attacking football, and tight defensive football, you feel he'll go defensive every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Whoever shouted out "get it sorted, Tommy" just before half time I think at the game got a shout-out from open all mics and had them all laughing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethamsaintee Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Whoever shouted out "get it sorted, Tommy" just before half time I think at the game got a shout-out from open all mics and had them all laughing. Absolutely hilarious that a Saints fan would dare shout such a thing during an insipid first half. Tommy did need to get it sorted and should have made a decision to change something at Half Time. Instead he waited another 15 minutes. Had we done it earlier we might have had enough to win the game, hope it's a lesson learned. Cagey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSAINTEE99 Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 This looks very like the comments last year but I seem to remember that we finished fourth, in the top six and in Europe - we cannot win the cup every year ( although this year would be nice). Makeshift defence with no time to gain any understanding so how good will we be when the invalids return. Also the squad seems to have more depth than last year. Â I think Macca came on because of his influence on the others and his will to win which rubs off even when he is not playing so well. Same with Ando and Cuptie. That's what we missed yesterday and that is what changed in the last twenty mins or so. I think Cummings has a bit of this as well so would agree that he has earned the right to start before Sutton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 am goin oot for beer later.anyone else want  tae come  dunkeldneil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-johns-toun Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 ffs some people have no patience, its a new season , we have new players that will need time to settle with the existing squad and we're only 2 games in. this rant would be worthwhile if it was 15 games in and we were languishing at the foot of the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havana Saint Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 As Alex Totten said " the fan pays good money to see goals and goalmouth incidents". We scored three last week which was the first occasion in 2015. That has to be encouraging, however playing Sutton up front on his own at home and punting long balls from our own half was desperate viewing in the first half yesterday.  Let's just see where we are at the end of September. fazman1977 and JSAINTEE99 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015  alex totten didnae say am awa tae the boozer.well maybe he did.but am away tae the boozer .railway club fues road will do for a start.  cannae miss me.i will be talking bollocks  AthensSaint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-johns-toun Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 we may pay good money but we support a small club and shouldn't be expecting overnight miracles like some other teams supporters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethamsaintee Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 we may pay good money but we support a small club and shouldn't be expecting overnight miracles like some other teams supporters... Miracles? A few more attempts on goal would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Miracles? A few more attempts on goal would be good. Â Pretty much this. We went numerous games last season without a single shot on target, thats embarrassing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 those that moan about 4-5-1 or 4-2-3-1 formations and want nothing but a 4-4-2 formation really need to come into the 21 St century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brogan Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) This looks very like the comments last year but I seem to remember that we finished fourth, in the top six and in Europe - we cannot win the cup every year ( although this year would be nice). Makeshift defence with no time to gain any understanding so how good will we be when the invalids return. Also the squad seems to have more depth than last year.  I think Macca came on because of his influence on the others and his will to win which rubs off even when he is not playing so well. Same with Ando and Cuptie. That's what we missed yesterday and that is what changed in the last twenty mins or so. I think Cummings has a bit of this as well so would agree that he has earned the right to start before Sutton  I admire your confidence, and it sounds daft to nail my colours to the mast this early, but I think other clubs have made better signings over the summer. I just can't see any way we'll finish top four this year, even with Millar back. Top six? Maybe at a stretch, but even then we'll need to improve a lot and change the way we play.  I hope, for example, that Mackay gets back to fitness, but at 35 and after a long lay off we just can't expect him to be the player he was. (And I don't think last season he was quite as good as he was the year before.)  MacLean seems to get a 'Get out of Jail Free' card from some. Nobody now argues he's worth a starting place based on his performance - no goals in a year, and precious little creative link up play - but unlike anyone else in the team he gets credited with invisible and immeasurable qualities to justify his inclusion. Edited August 9, 2015 by Brogan AthensSaint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Other clubs have made some good signings. Dundee in particular. I remember hearing the same hymn when Livi were signing all our players, when Ivano was shagging Dario and when Brookes was throwing away the family silver. We will have bought to budget. My main frustration is the lack of a game changing midfielder. I know Tommy wanted Swanson but it's a big risk. There must have been other guys available and it feels like all out eggs are in one basket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepless Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 most of the early comments on this thread are from the same person, just stirring stuff. Â it's either Gordon, or someone like Gordon. Â Just don't bite. Put them on ignore. As I'm about to do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brogan Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Other clubs have made some good signings. Dundee in particular. I remember hearing the same hymn when Livi were signing all our players, when Ivano was shagging Dario and when Brookes was throwing away the family silver. We will have bought to budget. My main frustration is the lack of a game changing midfielder. I know Tommy wanted Swanson but it's a big risk. There must have been other guys available and it feels like all out eggs are in one basket. Â You're right, we will have signed players to a budget. But we chose to sign Sutton and ship in another midfielder, while earlier tying up players on long-term deals. I don't meant to say that they're bad players, more to illustrate the point that I doubt all this came cheap. I don't buy the argument that we're hamstrung by lack of finances. We've made our choices; I don't think we've been as adventurous as other clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brogan Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 those that moan about 4-5-1 or 4-2-3-1 formations and want nothing but a 4-4-2 formation really need to come into the 21 St century. Â I think it's fair enough to moan about a 4-5-1 if the '1' lacks mobility and doesn't get service. I think Sutton is a bigger threat with a partner playing off him. If that's 20th century thinking, I plead guilty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sconesjfc Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 those that moan about 4-5-1 or 4-2-3-1 formations and want nothing but a 4-4-2 formation really need to come into the 21 St century. You can't tell me your happy when we play 4-5-1 at home with Sutton as a lone striker?! We don't have the quality to play one up top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Beatson Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 I think Sutton is a bigger threat if we put crosses into the box for him. We did that twice in 90 minutes at Tynecastle-one ended up in the net and the other was cleared off the line. Yesterday we didn't put a single decent cross into the box while he was on the park. As soon as he went off we started getting decent deliveries in. If we don't play to his strengths we won't get the best out of him. Saint Paul and mainstand 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sconesjfc Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Correct. He also won a fair few flick ons but there was nobody around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbear Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 On a wee rant now no been on for a while. 1 up front at home first 65 mins were utter dire the rest was okay but only made worse by a piss poor Inverness team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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