Abernethy Saint Posted October 2, 2016 Report Share Posted October 2, 2016 Saints do seem to turn over non football staff fast. Wouldn't wish unwanted unemployment on anybody, but it seems to work somehow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Physios both still in place today. Is this just a story?? Probably MS, but he would be in place if he was working his notice, unless he had been sent home to mow the grass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Probably MS, but he would be in place if he was working his notice, unless he had been sent home to mow the grass. The story that he had already been working his notice and then was sacked on Monday. Maybe Bluemoon will know what is happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScottMann Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 The story was in P&B from a poster that's usually correct with the info they provide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Keith Watson is still a month away from being match fit, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhq Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 The story was in P&B from a poster that's usually correct with the info they provide. P&B. Hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScottMann Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 P&B. Hmm... '...from a poster that's usually correct.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhq Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 '...from a poster that's usually correct.' Still....P&B... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranmere Saintee Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 '...from a poster that's usually correct.' Which means on occasion is found to be talking bilge jhq, Saintdunc and mainstand 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 New Head physio at the Club is Tony Tompos who was the under 21 physio at Wigan under former Saints physio Mike McBride. Dave Ferg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScottMann Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Bloody P&B bilge talker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin James Is On Stilts Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Bloody P&B bilge talker. As opposed to the quality that you get on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Chris Millar is out for a month https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/sport/football/st-johnstone/310716/st-johnstone-midfielder-chris-millar-month/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Has anyone anymore info on the reported departure of our physio? Not wanting to stir up any controversy here but we have had our fair share of injuries and associated niggles recently. We seem to have an unprecedented level of staff in the physiotherapy/sports science side of things but this doesn't appear to reflect in a reduction of players dropping out of squads. Would anyone else be up for crossing the water and kidnapping young Fearghal to bring him back? Laughed at the thread Headline name Dave. Dave Ferg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) I noticed on the unofficial twitter that our physio has inspired a rule change concerning concussed players. More on the story here http://www.footballmedic.co.uk/2017/03/07/fma-member-effects-change-scottish-football-association/ and his full article is here - http://youronlinephysio.wixsite.com/youronlinephysio/single-post/2013/05/01/This-is-the-title-of-your-first-image-post Very interesting read concerning the behind the scenes work on match day. The third incident is very interesting. I wonder if anything was done to educate Mr Collum about his behaviour! Edited March 10, 2017 by garydavidson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 I noticed on the unofficial twitter that our physio has inspired a rule change concerning concussed players. More on the story here http://www.footballmedic.co.uk/2017/03/07/fma-member-effects-change-scottish-football-association/ and his full article is here - http://youronlinephysio.wixsite.com/youronlinephysio/single-post/2013/05/01/This-is-the-title-of-your-first-image-post Very interesting read concerning the behind the scenes work on match day. The third incident is very interesting. I wonder if anything was done to educate Mr Collum about his behaviour! It looks bad, but how do we know Tam didn't say 'i'm just winded'? Did Collum even know it was a head knock? A lot of responsibility has to lie with the players, but their main priority is usually to carry on at all costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_gain Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 It looks bad, but how do we know Tam didn't say 'i'm just winded'? Did Collum even know it was a head knock? A lot of responsibility has to lie with the players, but their main priority is usually to carry on at all costs. To be fair to Collum I don't think he did anything wrong other than making a judgement that he himself didn't deem the injury worthy of treatment. Pretty sure he can either instruct the medical staff on based on his judgement or can do so on behalf of the player who requests treatment. He clearly asks Scobbie if he wants treatment and makes a clear instruction to the bench that Scobbie is ok. Both made what could be argued was an ill informed decision in this case. But what the physio is calling for is for both the player and the ref to be taken out of the equation and let the medical staff make the call on who is OK and who is not by being allowed on the pitch during an injury stoppage to avoid this sort of thing Seems to make sense. Really good article. Saintdunc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 I've often wondered what all the groping and blathering was about during head knock injuries. Full blog is very educational and worth a read, first half a bit techy but skip down to the replays and analysis. Remember Kenny Dalgleish's second goal in the WC qualifier against Wales - he always said he couldn't remember scoring it or anything else in that half because of an earlier head knock. Scary stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Tony was our guest at the last St Johnstone Disabled Supporters Association meeting, and what an interesting time we had. Fascinating. Our guests usually speak about their role at the club for 15 minutes and then answer questions during another fifteen minutes. One hour fifteen we were still going with Tony, covering everything from head knocks to injuries and treatment, confidentiality, his role in signings, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Great to see someone passionate and enthusiastic about their job. That sort of person tends to excel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) It looks bad, but how do we know Tam didn't say 'i'm just winded'? Did Collum even know it was a head knock? A lot of responsibility has to lie with the players, but their main priority is usually to carry on at all costs. To be fair to Collum I don't think he did anything wrong other than making a judgement that he himself didn't deem the injury worthy of treatment. Someone rubbing their head and struggling to stand up? Come on! You don't need a medic in that situation. Edited March 10, 2017 by garydavidson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintdunc Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Medical Staff, following examination, should, imo, be the only personnel who make the judgement on the fitness of a footballer/athlete to continue participating in an event where a head injury has been sustained. The referee obviously has to make a call to seek attention for the player, as he should have observed the event, but the player himself, should not be expected, or allowed, to decide to play on as he might well be confused following concussion. When a player suffers a head injury he should be watched carefully, if allowed to continue, until it is clear that he is suffering no ill effects, like passing to the opposition (well, maybe not that in the case of some players!) wandering aimlessly round the pitch (mmmmm!). I believe the one week rule following concussion is still in existence. That also makes good sense. Good article by our physio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_gain Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Someone rubbing their head and struggling to stand up? Come on! You don't need a medic in that situation. Like I said his judgement (and that of Scobbie's) was ill informed and that was his mistake but the point of the article is that because this situation can arise the responsibility for such a judgement should be taken away from the ref. If a medic has a concern they should be allowed to overrule the referee and step onto the field. There should also be greater protection in the game for medical staff so they are free to make the correct choices and not feel the pressure of a or ambitious chairman. While there is a benefit to having club medical staff who know each player is there an argument that medical staff are supplied buy the SFA in a similar manner to referees in an effort to remove pressure from a football club as an employer (thinking of Mourinho here)? Although that said the SFA would probably end up employing Andrew Wakefield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Like I said his judgement (and that of Scobbie's) was ill informed and that was his mistake but the point of the article is that because this situation can arise the responsibility for such a judgement should be taken away from the ref. If a medic has a concern they should be allowed to overrule the referee and step onto the field. There should also be greater protection in the game for medical staff so they are free to make the correct choices and not feel the pressure of a or ambitious chairman. While there is a benefit to having club medical staff who know each player is there an argument that medical staff are supplied buy the SFA in a similar manner to referees in an effort to remove pressure from a football club as an employer (thinking of Mourinho here)? Although that said the SFA would probably end up employing Andrew Wakefield. The less involvement from the SFA the better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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