Radford 72 Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 I blame Clive Smith. He's the only one to benefit from this. He has the look of a man who has orchestrated it all. Widge, Coltrane and Broon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chips Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4373970/Hamilton-s-Darian-MacKinnon-gives-verdict-brawl.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 He has the look of a man who has orchestrated it all. Got to wonder what niggle Paton has with Accies... As Accies seemed determined to get him to react and also see red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south inch Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Graham Spiers on Sportsound saying he was at the game and saw Foster and Swanson having words a few times during the 1st half as indeed has been said on here. Spiers, however, is alleging that the issue was Foster complaining that Swanson was not tracking back enough when Hamilton were on the attack. He thinks this "debate" carried on after the whistle and then something was said which sparked off the fisticuffs. He does claim that it was Foster who started the physical stuff which implies that it was Swanson who said something fairly explosive. Spiers is usually one of the more sensible pundits but I would defer to the views of any Saintees who were present. Any comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Got to wonder what niggle Paton has with Accies... As Accies seemed determined to get him to react and also see red. I don't think he has any problem with them in general. He seemed to, correctly, take umbrage to the Accies staff trying their hardest to get his team mates sent off. It genuinely wouldn't surprise me if their half time team talk consisted of them deciding to target Paton they way they've spoken about wanting to Foster and Swanson sent off. croc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 Don't want to wildly speculate, but one possible reason for the lack of footage is that the police have it and have asked for it to not be shown in the meantime. Handbags is one thing, kicking a guy on the ground in the head - IF it happened - is another. There is precedent for criminal charges arising from violence during a game. I heard the price of offshore Haddock is wildly fluctuating.! Could you confirm if this is true.!? As there seems to be no "Poundage" available.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 The Hamilton Staff and Players are Cringeworthy Desperadoes.! Hope they drop like a Stone.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) Just read this.... haha http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kieron-dyer-lifts-lid-fight-7968397#ICID=shareb Edited April 3, 2017 by Dave H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 (edited) The ned mckinnon writing about how it's the worse he has seen then talks about he likes a good scrap. Yep that's why you ended up in Polmont ya numpties. Seems to think he is a hardcase but met his match with Paton. Edited April 3, 2017 by mainstand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted April 3, 2017 Report Share Posted April 3, 2017 All the fighting talk has taken away how poor the goal was to lose . 3 saints players give the accies time in the 6yd box to take a touch then shoot as it's passed into him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy rhodes fancy watch Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 All the fighting talk has taken away how poor the goal was to lose . 3 saints players give the accies time in the 6yd box to take a touch then shoot as it's passed into him Would never blame the players left on the pitch for that goal considering the amount of work they had put in. If Hamilton were any kind of team they'd have scored well before then. Shite team, shite fans, shite stadium, shite hole. Stumpy1949, mainstand and garydavidson 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 All the fighting talk has taken away how poor the goal was to lose . 3 saints players give the accies time in the 6yd box to take a touch then shoot as it's passed into him I think the players themselves knew that it was a bad goal to lose. Paton gambles that the ball is going to be cut back towards the edge of the 18 yard box and comes out to cut it out leaving the goalscorer between the 2 defenders. Suspect they were shattered both mentally and physical by that time. Cagey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broon Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Will be interesting to see how the club choses to punish the players. However, if you move away from the fantasy world of football if any of you or I had a full blown brawl at work especially in front of customers we would be sacked on the spot. I suspect a heavy fine and a public apology will be the result but they should be on last warnings the pair of them. HOODLUM65 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 "Hamilton Accies manager Martin Canning has hailed Darian MacKinnon's role in defusing the clash between the St Johnstone pair at the weekend. "Darian actually helped keep the peace," says Canning. (Scottish Sun)" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted April 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/st-johnstone-duo-danny-swanson-10151437.amp 541ntees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Just checked iplayer and the radio commentary is also not available. I swear that the commentators said they were watching the video footage back. If no such footage exists then they were making it up to sensationalise things. Typical BBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss75990 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Just checked iplayer and the radio commentary is also not available. I swear that the commentators said they were watching the video footage back. If no such footage exists then they were making it up to sensationalise things. Typical BBC. Yeah they did, I was listening to it and Chick Young was saying he was watching it back to see what ignited it and described what he saw. Something along the lines of Foster pointing at Swanson then pointing at the tunnel. Then he threw a punch at swanson but slipped and then swanson kicked him in the face. From what I can remember hearing on the radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristo Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Yeah they did, I was listening to it and Chick Young was saying he was watching it back to see what ignited it and described what he saw. Something along the lines of Foster pointing at Swanson then pointing at the tunnel. Then he threw a punch at swanson but slipped and then swanson kicked him in the face. From what I can remember hearing on the radio. You remember correctly, that's exactly what was said. Alan Preston was going mad about it at the game, but also all the other pundits at the other grounds were commenting on it, having "watched it back again", so there must be footage somewhere. Unless someone in the Saints camp got hold of it and taped over it. Perhaps with an Amy McDonald video or something, who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted April 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 The various pundits were wanking themselves into a frenzy about the whole thing. ex-montrosesaintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstevie Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 You remember correctly, that's exactly what was said. Alan Preston was going mad about it at the game, but also all the other pundits at the other grounds were commenting on it, having "watched it back again", so there must be footage somewhere. Unless someone in the Saints camp got hold of it and taped over it. Perhaps with an Amy McDonald video or something, who knows. It's not necessarily BBC footage they would have seen - it's more likely they've looked over the shoulder of the Accies video guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 You remember correctly, that's exactly what was said. Alan Preston was going mad about it at the game, but also all the other pundits at the other grounds were commenting on it, having "watched it back again", so there must be footage somewhere. Unless someone in the Saints camp got hold of it and taped over it. Perhaps with an Amy McDonald video or something, who knows. Tommy is reported in today's Courier as saying "he won't be papering over the cracks" Oh, apologies. "Won't be sweeping it under the carpet" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sainties sheep Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) I can't in reality see how TW can justify keeping either at the club now. There hasn't been a club I can think of over the years who has kept a player who has been involved in a fight or assaulted a team-mate. History shows they're all moved on, sacked PDQ , Hartson, Barton etc. Pro football players have passion, bear grudges, niggle and have bite about them, this would fester between the two and could boil over again at any point. TW and club cannot take that chance. Sad as both do a job and are talented players for us. Edited April 4, 2017 by sainties sheep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejksjfc Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 The Hamilton Staff and Players are Cringeworthy Desperadoes.! Hope they drop like a Stone.! They can hate Dundee more than us when they are both in the Championship next season, not too outrageous a thought given tonight's result. croc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejksjfc Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Without meaning to trivialize a very serious situation within the club I would be pretty pissed off if RF left because of this because then I would be unable to ogle the rather lovely Amy McD from my seat in the East Stand when the match is getting boring. Shes no lovely any more, she is bumming up The Rangers on the "lawro" prediction league on BBC website now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Shes no lovely any more, she is bumming up The Rangers on the "lawro" prediction league on BBC website now. Ah! Knew there was something about her, but I couldnae just put my finger on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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