OldPoster Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 So we have finished in the top 6 for 6 seasons in a row - So why as a club are our objectives still to stay in the league? Comment from Wright, Anderson and Davidson in the past week confirm that Is what we are aiming for.......... So the question is have these 6 seasons been a fluke, Do we not actually think we are that good or do we have no drive? I'm not wanting this to be a negative thread I'm just curious of everyone else's take on the matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 What they say publicly and what they actually think are two different things Tranmere Saintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE LARK SAINT Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) It's simple for me My opinion is the public target and changing room target will be totally different If the manager and players go public shouting top 6 from rooftops they put a target on their heads However going about it quietly under the radar is proven format It's also well know that we don't pay highest basic wage but have one of the best bonus for success in the League Edited August 5, 2017 by THE LARK SAINT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted August 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 So to counter that - would it not make sense to say we are targeting top 6 to try and get more people along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 The just stay in the league thing is a financial target for the accountants. Saints probably budget to finish 10th and to do little in the cups. Anything else is a bonus. This is how we got where we are. Realistic club playing target would be top six and one decent cup run, I guess. Optimistic, but not daft, fan target would be Europe, and a cup final. Loving the pre-season optimism this year. Which almost certainly means a thumping from Killie today...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintcraigieboy Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 10th in the league like every year, and a decent cup run. Everything else is s bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 10th in the league like every year, and a decent cup run. Everything else is s bonus This but hope for excitement & entertainment with the crowds rushing back. Crossest Man In Scotland 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 So to counter that - would it not make sense to say we are targeting top 6 to try and get more people along? How many folk do you think are going to go to games they wouldn't have purely because a player said they want to finish in the top six? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 How many folk do you think are going to go to games they wouldn't have purely because a player said they want to finish in the top six? I reckon you are underestimating the impact of positive messages coming out of the club. One statement won't make 100 more people come to the next game, it's a longer term thing than that, but it does make a difference. Flip it round....if those associated with the club openly and regularly talked about being in a relegation battle this season, do you not think numbers would be adversely affected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 I reckon you are underestimating the impact of positive messages coming out of the club. One statement won't make 100 more people come to the next game, it's a longer term thing than that, but it does make a difference. Flip it round....if those associated with the club openly and regularly talked about being in a relegation battle this season, do you not think numbers would be adversely affected? No. I think most people are aware that everything managers/players come out with is pure PR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 going by budgets we should be in a relegation dog fight, but footballs a funny old game and the bottom line is we have made top 6 because we have played better than teams with larger budgets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Saint Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Go with the party line of staying in league however it gives great satisfaction when we out perform the "bigger" clubs who are tipped to be top 4 or 5. No bad for a wee diddy team!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 They never said we are going to aim for tenth and that is it. They said secure safety and go from there. We could be fifth and secure safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Neil Lennon on the bbc trying to get rid of all the Hibs fans with a lack of ambition... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havana Saint Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 We keep saying "stay in league" and we are quite clearly now an established top 6 club. All good. We will comfortably be top 6 again, I feel. COYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Neil Lennon on the bbc trying to get rid of all the Hibs fans with a lack of ambition... thats after he got all the season ticketsin after saying theyd finish 2nd, did the ugly ginger not play a full season n the prem with utd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 did the ugly ginger not play a full season n the prem with utd? Indeed http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=58241&season_id=145 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnoull Kicker Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 no 1 objective for me - increase and extend TW's contract to be extended. We need to dissuade the likes Hearts but ensure they pay dearly for his services if whoever is keen enough and has the funds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenko82 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Neil Lennon on the bbc trying to get rid of all the Hibs fans with a lack of ambition... A bit off topic. But it isn't Simon Murray's debut at this level, as he did play for united in their relegation year. 541ntees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chips Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Slightly off topic but I've already put in my league prediction in the appropriate thread .... rickardo, Abernethy Saint, ex-montrosesaintee and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Tommy and the players come out with this stuff every season but it hasn't stopped us from doing well, so why change it? Remember Tommy also openly said he wanted to add quality and move us up a level this season (can't remember his exact words) - I think that says a lot more about his real ambitions for the season. Also remember the situation Hibs were in a few years back where they looked comfortably Top 6 for most of the season until Saints leap-frogged them and they ended up getting relegated. A bad run of results can put you in trouble very quickly, so putting safety first seems pretty sensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Although Tommy would never say about his own team half way through a season, "most of this lot won't be here next year", with inevitable results. What a feckwit Butcher was. Edited August 7, 2017 by Abernethy Saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Yes agree, I always felt that was one of the worst pieces of man-management in recent years in Scottish football. I like the understated approach, its worked well for us. In fact, it's often when we've deviated from that approach over the past few seasons that things have gone wrong. When Tommy's came out and said we can get 2nd or 3rd etc things have suddenly nose-dived and we've gone on bad runs. It's the media that are still bizarre. There is such an ingrained snobbery amongst them that the bigger a club's support, the better the team. Over the past 6 seasons we're the 3rd best team in the country, and yet still Hearts, Hibs etc are all given far more respect and rated higher by 'pundits'. Alex Rae on off the ball on Saturday was coming out with the same tired old chat about us being a dependable team of journeymen. Fair play to Stephen Thompson on sportscene though, he emphasised the point that after recent seasons, why would you not predict Saints finishing top 6 again?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Tommy no daft knows the grass isn't always greener when he leaves he will be down the road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted August 7, 2017 Report Share Posted August 7, 2017 Tommy no daft knows the grass isn't always greener when he leaves he will be down the road Ha. Ha. What about bluegrass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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