OldPoster Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) Joe will be the new Captain With regards to Steven, I am of the opinion that we have not seen the best of him so far this season and having had a chat with him over the weekend I feel that to help him I will relieve him of the captaincy and allow him to concentrate on just playing and getting his form back to the Ando we all know. After careful consideration, I’ve made the decision to make Joe Shaughnessy the new club captain. Joe has been virtually an ever-present since joining the club and he’s looking forward to the new challenge. Edited October 23, 2017 by saint_markperth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I can understand the logic here. Ando has looked a bit like he feels he's had to rush around wiring into every challenge this season, whether that's because he felt he had to lead by example I don't know. Compare it to the back 4 on Saturday which looked a far more disciplined performance positionally. Not an easy decision for the manager, on a player who has always given everything, and the easy option would have just been to leave things as they were, so fair play to the manager for acting decisively. Hopefully now we see Ando get back to his usual form, as one of the best centre backs in the country outwith Celtic, over the past five seasons or so. Kyle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScottMann Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I was surprised at his appointment although obviously I'm as ignorant about what goes on as most fans. He never seemed to come over as a natural leader, more the quiet pleasant guy that was just happy doing what he was good at. Didn't realise Joe was so high up the pecking order. I would have expected either Beaston or Spoony to be next. Anyway, I hope Ando can thrive again without the extra responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 As above, I thought he was a strange choice at the time, almost as if it was by default through his service. He's a good organiser at the back but never struck you as a leader of men. By the same token, Shaughnessy maybe wouldn't have been the first name they jumped out but should bring consistency to the role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I was hoping that Ando would be facing a challenge to get back in the starting 11 tbh Denzil, jhq and dave mc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I think there isn't much in the role these days apart from the heads or tails. Every man on the park at our level should be a worthy captain. As opposed to being stripped, Id argue he has been relieved of his duties. Maybe he never wins the toss?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhq Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 (edited) I was hoping that Ando would be facing a challenge to get back in the starting 11 tbh Absolutely. Liam Gordon did enough on Saturday to keep his place as far as I could see. Edited October 23, 2017 by jhq Denzil, dave mc and TheYellowBox 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Absolutely. Liam Gordon did enough on Saturday to keep his place as far as I could see. Yup. See people suggesting the knocks he suffered will see him miss Tuesday, which is hugely unlucky for him, as you can easily see Ando returning and being solid, which then leaves Gordon out the team again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Maybe because Joe is about the only player not out of contract at the end of the season. What about Foster,a man with passion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Saint Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Easier to drop a player if not performing rather than your captain??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50yrs a Saint Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 To me, Joe is a natural leader and I hope he goes on to become a Saints legend PanamaSaint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheYellowBox Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Absolutely. Liam Gordon did enough on Saturday to keep his place as far as I could see. Spot on. Maybe Ando realising there is a genuine contender for his place and less pressure might be the boost he needs. I’d be happy with Gordon starting, but feel more comfortable now after Saturday that we have a decent enough backup for Ando And Joe if that is what he is for now. Dont think Anderson is a natural captain, but then not sure Joe is either. Seems a bit too quiet for me. Don’t see any other obvious players though. I’d say Macca, but maybe he is too far from the other players (and too angry) to be captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Macca would NOT be a good choice for captain imo Struggles to take care of himself sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Could Kerr be recalled in January to play alongside Joe? then put Gordon out to QOS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhq Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Why would we do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldPoster Posted October 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Look at the form he is in - If a player who is ours is in great form why wouldn't you want him playing for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhq Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Gordon played very well on Saturday. In a Premiership match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 maybe TW is going to give Gordon a run in the team beside Joe so no point having Ando as captain if hes not playing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny B Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Our captain needs to be playing every week. It looks like he is phasing Ando out and as said above our captain is no use on the bench. I do not think Joe is captain material. He has in my opinion not shown leadership qualities on the park. He is not vocal enough and more importantly can he organise the defence and midfield on the pitch??. But he may be the best of the bunch or he is he the only player Tommy sees as playing in all our matches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Our captain needs to be playing every week. It looks like he is phasing Ando out and as said above our captain is no use on the bench. I do not think Joe is captain material. He has in my opinion not shown leadership qualities on the park. He is not vocal enough and more importantly can he organise the defence and midfield on the pitch??. But he may be the best of the bunch or he is he the only player Tommy sees as playing in all our matches Can you imagine Joe telling Foster what to do ?. Johnny B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Could Kerr be recalled in January to play alongside Joe? then put Gordon out to QOS? I think Kerr (and Kane) are both only in loan until January anyway. No idea what benefit we'd be getting from dropping Gordon a level when he seems perfectly fine at this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy rhodes fancy watch Posted October 24, 2017 Report Share Posted October 24, 2017 Can you imagine Joe telling Foster what to do ?. Aye, like "you sit in here Ricky and get the tea and oranges ready for when we come in at half time" type of chat. He might say "potatoes" at the end though. Cagey, garydavidson and jhq 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 I think Kerr (and Kane) are both only in loan until January anyway. No idea what benefit we'd be getting from dropping Gordon a level when he seems perfectly fine at this one. Yep both are just til January - http://www.perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/news/post/kane-and-kerr-go-out-loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 Kane's loan never worked out the way it was meant to. Strange,giving the guy a 3 year contract & putting him out on loan & at last minute bringing in a humpty on loan to replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Strasser Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 I think Joe showed he is well capable of being Captain material against Ross County. Best player on the pitch by a country mile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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