krm81 Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Included in a piece with Tommy Wright on the BBC website is a line where he talks about the negativity amongst the Saints support. Should he have made the comment or does he have a valid point? Maybe he's a member on this forum? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42308848 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScottMann Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 'Even our own support is negative about us at the minute' = manager blasts negative fans. FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krm81 Posted December 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) ScottMann blasts topic starter. Does he have a point, or were his comments ill-judged? Edited December 11, 2017 by krm81 Kyle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 He's trying to create a siege mentality in the squad I reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjomcgoo Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Its no wonder that some fans are getting negative. Its just too hard a watch this season. I don't blame the manager or team but the mess that is scottish football. The standard in the league is so poor and lacks any entertainment value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristo Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Of course he's entitled to comment on it. The team have clearly picked up on the negative vibe, hopefully they can show a positive response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDougie Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Its no wonder that some fans are getting negative. Its just too hard a watch this season. I don't blame the manager or team but the mess that is scottish football. The standard in the league is so poor and lacks any entertainment value. I'm not really sure of what angle you're going for with this comment to be honest. It comes across as if you're trying to deflect poor performances away from the team and blame it entirely on Scottish football as a whole. Something that I have no doubt wouldn't be reciprocated when Saints are playing well. Personally I think he's quite right to make these comments, yeah we have struggled recently and there's no doubt at all we are crying out for some fresh faces, but some of the reactions are beyond knee jerk and more full blown spasm. Now I'm all for backing the team to the hilt, hoping and wishing for shock results, cup runs and serious ambitions. However a dash of realism and humility is also required when supporting a club the size of Saints, something a lot of people would do well to remember. I do like the idea the RG mentioned though, he may very well be trying to create some sort of siege mentality within the dressing room. blueheaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 valid point. too many whinging negative so called fans.get them all tae furque. we are perth PanamaSaint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 too many spit the dummy oot the pram brigade. PanamaSaint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Its just too hard a watch this season. I don't blame the manager or team but the mess that is scottish football. The standard in the league is so poor and lacks any entertainment value. I can agree with this .no need to be negative and miserable about it all. some so called fans want to buy manifest destiny and realise the true history of stjohnstone fc .always remember they don't like it up um. PanamaSaint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanamaSaint Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Some of the younger fanbase need to get a grip. In relation to the past 132 years we are having a huge elongated purple patch. Though a do agree that we have to a certain extent had to substitute entertainment with success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 ScottMann blasts topic starter. Does he have a point, or were his comments ill-judged? off course he has a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanamaSaint Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 ScottMann blasts topic starter. Does he have a point, or were his comments ill-judged? He has a very valid and strong point. Hopefully those that continually criticism the team and the players are the ones moaning when he leaves us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havana Saint Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 In making that comment he is quite clever, highlighting that football views are totally subjective but at the same time almost issuing a Soviet style position that all must abide by the party line and that challenges will not be tolerated! One man's negativity is another's reflection of the issue - as they see it - obviously. Whether one is negative or not is not my primary concern, but the moral compass superiority of some posts. These do nothing to embrace honest constructive debate on the issues of our beloved club. One team, one fan base, many opinions....surely? COYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Some of the younger fanbase need to get a grip. In relation to the past 132 years we are having a huge elongated purple patch What a patronising view. Everyone under the age of 30 isn't just some dense **** who thinks we should be challenging for the title every season. This "purple patch" has lasted the best part of a decade, and if the club manages the next few windows correctly it'll continue. I've no idea why people constantly bring up what happened twenty years ago as of that's our natural place. Football is a different game to the one on the 70s/80s, and since that period we've predominantly been a top half team in the top flight. Dave H, chips, mad saints fan and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 I am sure Tommy said he never reads reports. Off course some fans have been negative as the football this season has been dire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepless Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Yes, he has a valid point. It's a bit of a Perthshire thing to immediately take a negative view of things. We tend to look for the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Has he been reading your pasts Cagey ?? Cagey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Jenkins Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 What a patronising view. Everyone under the age of 30 isn't just some dense **** who thinks we should be challenging for the title every season. This "purple patch" has lasted the best part of a decade, and if the club manages the next few windows correctly it'll continue. I've no idea why people constantly bring up what happened twenty years ago as of that's our natural place. Football is a different game to the one on the 70s/80s, and since that period we've predominantly been a top half team in the top flight. Exactly if anything the circ 10 years in the 80s was the blip to the norm. Two wins in eight or two in three? Its all perspective. fazman1977 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDougie Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Yes, he has a valid point. It's a bit of a Perthshire thing to immediately take a negative view of things. We tend to look for the worst. No it's not, it's an entirely Scottish thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepless Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 No it's not, it's an entirely Scottish thing. aye, you might be right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJet Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 In making that comment he is quite clever, highlighting that football views are totally subjective but at the same time almost issuing a Soviet style position that all must abide by the party line and that challenges will not be tolerated! One man's negativity is another's reflection of the issue - as they see it - obviously. Whether one is negative or not is not my primary concern, but the moral compass superiority of some posts. These do nothing to embrace honest constructive debate on the issues of our beloved club. One team, one fan base, many opinions....surely? COYS This is a far too articulate response for this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanamaSaint Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Very different to Mark Hughes approach reported on BBC online with regards the Stoke team getting pelters on the train on the way back from the Spurs game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted December 12, 2017 Report Share Posted December 12, 2017 Negativity in the stands... how many games without a goal? When was the last home win? No fkn wonder there is negativity, costing me a small fortune for utter dross! Players and managers should take the criticism and sort it out. The only way to shut me up is win games! Our style of play doesn't lead to more fans through the gate, but funny when the club have a moan at low crowds.. if we aint happy, it's in the manager and players hands to change this feeling Cagey, fazman1977, Edstar101 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelosi Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 One person's negativity is another person's opinion. Every Saints supporter can be forgiven for having negative thoughts or feelings at times, Saints could be the proverbial yo yo club and even in my time watching I've experienced every division and all the highs and lows that go with it. Supporters can especially be excused for being negative as it took 130 years to win our first major trophy, so we cannot be excused of being impatient! Tommy and his group of players have to undo all of the previous players, teams and managers poor performances and results an impossible task, but for the best part of the Brown's era we have enjoyed and managed to achieve the success that we have all got used to and somehow my have taken for granted. Optimism for the club and football I watch is based on the result or results for that week and depending on how Saints perform or the result they achieve I'm either pessimistic or optimistic, but is that not what football is all about and why we continue to support and follow our team regardless. Tommy and the team deserve to take flak when they do not perform and cannot either entertain with decent performances and score at least one goal every so often, just as they deserve our credit and support when the performances and results go our way. I don't think Saints or the fans can complain after what we have witnessed over many seasons, but regardless Tommy and his players will be judged by me come the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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