Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, 541ntees said: ooo i wonder how the fans would feel about that Performance based contracts not unusual for managers. Mcnamara got a lot of stick at utd for it but I think rewards based on performance including developing players is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 hours ago, SaintJet said: It never fails to amaze me the naivety of some fans; Hibs playing gash will pull attendances of 12000. It's simple economics that they have more attraction than St.Johnstone to a prospective manager even if we have our house in order and a strong squad. TW's salary will be doubled probably more and seriously this argument that he has settled lifestyle blah blah blah and wouldn't want to move is pie in the sky. If Hibs are doing their due diligence there is a standout candidate who knows the league and has a proven track record. Better buckle up because if we manage to retain TW if HIbs come calling I'll be shocked! Hibs could have 20000 fans every week, they won't win the league and their best chance of glory is the Scottish Cup. The benefits of a bigger wage are offset by the dangers of joining a club that's a complete mess and who dump managers whenever they don't reach their unattainable ambitions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJet Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 55 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: Hibs could have 20000 fans every week, they won't win the league and their best chance of glory is the Scottish Cup. The benefits of a bigger wage are offset by the dangers of joining a club that's a complete mess and who dump managers whenever they don't reach their unattainable ambitions So you are saying Tommy wouldn't be interested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE LARK SAINT Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) I by no means claim to know the man like his wife. But in my capacity of a group organisating Saints events and having the opportunity to meet and chat to him over a pint I can only take from those conversations what I can believe as genuine if which he comes over loud and clear as just that In those conversations about why he never went to Millwall ext he is quoted as saying "Why would I do that for 6 months and get the sack" He also mentioned teams that would be tempting and there were not very many Obviously if Man City came in with Mega bugs it might be tempting if you want to be out of work with a big fat wad of cash but no job ie Lomas I'm not saying for certain he won't be tempted by, say a Hibs offer, I'm sure he would consider it But if you have a settled squad, who are signing extensions on the promise of "The Gaffer" staying then I think that's the way he works, stability. Happy and settled home life with a team he is successfully rebuilding It is this along with the fact as far as I know that he hasn't even been offered the Hibs Job that he will be our Gaffer for a long time yet I would be willing to predict that he would be 'put upstairs' in some capacity rather than leaving for better paid job he might not have a year later Just my view on many conversations with the man himself. Edited January 28, 2019 by THE LARK SAINT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJet Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, THE LARK SAINT said: I by no means claim to know the man like his wife. But in my capacity of a group organisating Saints events and having the opportunity to meet and chat to him over a pint I can only take from those conversations what I can believe as genuine if which he comes over loud and clear as just that In those conversations about why he never went to Millwall ext he is quoted as saying "Why would I do that for 6 months and get the sack" He also mentioned teams that would be tempting and there were not very many Obviously if Man City came in with Mega bugs it might be tempting if you want to be out of work with a big fat wad of cash but no job ie Lomas I'm not saying for certain he won't be tempted by, say a Hibs offer, I'm sure he would consider it But if you have a settled squad, who are signing extensions on the promise of "The Gaffer" staying then I think that's the way he works, stability. Happy and settled home life with a team he is successfully rebuilding It is this along with the fact as far as I know that he hasn't even been offered the Hibs Job that he will be our Gaffer for a long time yet I would be willing to predict that he would be 'put upstairs' in some capacity rather than leaving for better paid job he might not have a year later Just my view on many conversations with the man himself. I must say very encouraging to read this. I will with great pleasure buy you a pint if this all blows over and TW is still here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 hours ago, SaintJet said: So you are saying Tommy wouldn't be interested? I don't think he'll leave us for Hibs just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny B Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 Grass always greener on the other side. Callum Davidson who I believed would be a natural successor to Tommy thought so and went to Stoke. Where is he now. Tommy will stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 18 hours ago, SaintJet said: So you are saying Tommy wouldn't be interested? The fact is none of us know whether or not he'd be interest - all we can do is speculate. But I think there are quite a few reasons to suspect it probably wouldn't be the right job for him. I'd be a lot more worried if it was the Aberdeen job that was up for grabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ss75990 Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 I think part of the reasoning behind Lennons departure is he felt he was not getting the backing he wanted to try and make hibs a success. With Tommy signing a new contract recently, Brown would be expecting a heavy payment to take Tommy away from us. I cant see Hibs willing to pay it. Personal opinion. They have a number of names who have said they are interested who are currently out of a job. Including Stubbs who was a success with them. Tommy isn't going anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE LARK SAINT Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 4:34 PM, SaintJet said: I must say very encouraging to read this. I will with great pleasure buy you a pint if this all blows over and TW is still here. So with the liklihood of Hibs appointmenting a Manager from England this week Are you prepared to unmask and buy me that pint in Muirton Suite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJet Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 34 minutes ago, THE LARK SAINT said: So with the liklihood of Hibs appointmenting a Manager from England this week Are you prepared to unmask and buy me that pint in Muirton Suite Most definitely good sir; it looks like Aberdeen home in a couple of weeks if that suits you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE LARK SAINT Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, SaintJet said: Most definitely good sir; it looks like Aberdeen home in a couple of weeks if that suits you. Yup looking forward to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 What has happened after the break ?. We were going merrily along then the break after thumping Dudee & thinking Europe here we come. The run of fixtures & the time scales were brutal so we had to utilise the pool but why keep changing tactics that had been succesfull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MySpazz Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Lay off the crack pipe. Tommy is the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Whilst I never thought this day would come, Cagey is correct with one of his statements. Go back to the formation and tactics which were working so well, change for the sake of change wasn’t needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radford 72 Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Widge said: Go back to the formation and tactics which were working so well, change for the sake of change wasn’t needed. Folk were moaning about the performances against Accies and Livingston after the break, so he can't really win. If he hadn't changed shape, he'd have been criticised too. Hearts played a back four, with Smith taking long throws, against Dundee a few days before they played us. The system we used was wrong on the day but, again, if he doesn't try to combat what he expects from them and we lose goals to them from set pieces or crosses again, he's criticised. Folk moan about not having a go at Celtic; you saw in the first 10 minutes of the second half yesterday what happens when you go 4-4-2 and press them. I was glad TW had a dig in his post-match interview about that. No manager gets it right all the time but thankfully we have one that does far more often than not. Also thankfully, most fans appreciate that I think and those that don't frankly wouldn't be happy with any manager we had, it's simply their (footballing perspective) nature. Stumpy1949, blueheaven, Wendy Saints and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy1949 Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Is it possible to change the title of this thread as it is soooooo wrong. Just Tommy would do or god if not. Wendy Saints 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Radford 72 said: Folk were moaning about the performances against Accies and Livingston after the break, so he can't really win. If he hadn't changed shape, he'd have been criticised too. Hearts played a back four, with Smith taking long throws, against Dundee a few days before they played us. The system we used was wrong on the day but, again, if he doesn't try to combat what he expects from them and we lose goals to them from set pieces or crosses again, he's criticised. Folk moan about not having a go at Celtic; you saw in the first 10 minutes of the second half yesterday what happens when you go 4-4-2 and press them. I was glad TW had a dig in his post-match interview about that. No manager gets it right all the time but thankfully we have one that does far more often than not. Also thankfully, most fans appreciate that I think and those that don't frankly wouldn't be happy with any manager we had, it's simply their (footballing perspective) nature. 2 subs from Celtic last week from PSG and Dortmund. That’s what we’re up against. It’s nigh on impossible to get anything from them. Hearts, Accies and even Rangers we can at least expect to compete. Hopefully having failed to do so with the first two we can improve next Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE LARK SAINT Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/5/2019 at 6:18 PM, THE LARK SAINT said: Yup looking forward to it Aberdeen home it is (Hibs appointment done. Looking forward to a pint on you and the grand unmasking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJet Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 On 2/13/2019 at 10:59 PM, THE LARK SAINT said: Aberdeen home it is (Hibs appointment done. Looking forward to a pint on you and the grand unmasking All good , I'll send you a PM so you can identify me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john.w Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 I can only form an opinion on Tommy’s performance based on what I read on here is his tenure comming to an end just putting it out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 6 hours ago, john.w said: I can only form an opinion on Tommy’s performance based on what I read on here is his tenure comming to an end just putting it out there. At no point during this season has it even remotely been talked about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 6 hours ago, john.w said: I can only form an opinion on Tommy’s performance based on what I read on here is his tenure comming to an end just putting it out there. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 We’ve had a horrendous, confidence sapping run of games. Hopefully things will start to turn now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentino Bolognese Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 7 hours ago, john.w said: I can only form an opinion on Tommy’s performance based on what I read on here is his tenure comming to an end just putting it out there. That will be why he signed a new contract just weeks ago then. Christ. blueheaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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