blueheaven Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 Very sad to see a small number of people on here continually trying to imply that all Tommy has done for us is win the Cup (especially when they're doing things like making up the formation we supposedly played to make him look worse). He has consistently succeeded with Saints and delivered strong league finishing positions - a better run of league positions than any other Saints manager has ever achieved. I'll also repeat what I say on here quite often, which is that every single time we've gone through a slump of bad results under Tommy, he has successfully managed to pull us out of it. When people start trying to downplay our greatest ever manager's achievements I really start to wonder about what their agendas are. And no I don't think he should be above all criticism - but surely there's some middle ground between criticising a manager and leaping straight to the knee-jerk reaction of calling for him to be replaced. Bruno Strasser, templeofsaints, HOODLUM65 and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 54 minutes ago, blueheaven said: Very sad to see a small number of people on here continually trying to imply that all Tommy has done for us is win the Cup (especially when they're doing things like making up the formation we supposedly played to make him look worse). He has consistently succeeded with Saints and delivered strong league finishing positions - a better run of league positions than any other Saints manager has ever achieved. I'll also repeat what I say on here quite often, which is that every single time we've gone through a slump of bad results under Tommy, he has successfully managed to pull us out of it. When people start trying to downplay our greatest ever manager's achievements I really start to wonder about what their agendas are. And no I don't think he should be above all criticism - but surely there's some middle ground between criticising a manager and leaping straight to the knee-jerk reaction of calling for him to be replaced. You tell them dude . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ScottMann Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, blueheaven said: And no I don't think he should be above all criticism - but surely there's some middle ground between criticising a manager and leaping straight to the knee-jerk reaction of calling for him to be replaced. Middle ground doesn't exist when it comes to Saints, just as when someone suggests spending a bit of money they get Gretna. Dundee, Motherwell thrown at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanley saint Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 Jose Mourinho has been quoted that he is waiting for the Wright job. Just saying.. templeofsaints 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Pedro Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 short memories of some, football is meant to full of ups and downs, we've just been a bit more spoilt of late i remember us losing 7-0 at home to Advocaats Rangers in Nov. 1998, the only time I've ever came close to leaving any football match early - Dad held me back ... then in glorious Saintee style 5 months later we won at home in April 1999, 3-1, first time I'd witnessed us beating Rangers (born 1970) Jim Weir scored at near post (we'd been moved into west stand) and he went mental as you'd expect, Miguel Simao scored 2nd in 70+ minutes then Kieran McEnespie sealed it on the break in 90mins. Football eh, its why we love it, sometimes we forget that need lows to appreciate the highs Saintee til i die... sixties saintee and stanley saint 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve McQueen Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 27 minutes ago, St Pedro said: short memories of some, football is meant to full of ups and downs, we've just been a bit more spoilt of late i remember us losing 7-0 at home to Advocaats Rangers in Nov. 1998, the only time I've ever came close to leaving any football match early - Dad held me back ... then in glorious Saintee style 5 months later we won at home in April 1999, 3-1, first time I'd witnessed us beating Rangers (born 1970) Jim Weir scored at near post (we'd been moved into west stand) and he went mental as you'd expect, Miguel Simao scored 2nd in 70+ minutes then Kieran McEnespie sealed it on the break in 90mins. Football eh, its why we love it, sometimes we forget that need lows to appreciate the highs Saintee til i die... I remember the 7-0 & only 6 days later we beat Celtic. I think that might have been the McAnespie last minute winner from a Mahe cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejksjfc Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 29 minutes ago, St Pedro said: short memories of some, football is meant to full of ups and downs, we've just been a bit more spoilt of late i remember us losing 7-0 at home to Advocaats Rangers in Nov. 1998, the only time I've ever came close to leaving any football match early - Dad held me back ... then in glorious Saintee style 5 months later we won at home in April 1999, 3-1, first time I'd witnessed us beating Rangers (born 1970) Jim Weir scored at near post (we'd been moved into west stand) and he went mental as you'd expect, Miguel Simao scored 2nd in 70+ minutes then Kieran McEnespie sealed it on the break in 90mins. Football eh, its why we love it, sometimes we forget that need lows to appreciate the highs Saintee til i die... The week after that 7-0 gubbing we beat Septic thanks to a brilliant cross from the bye-line from Riseth(?) 3 minutes ago, Steve McQueen said: I remember the 7-0 & only 6 days later we beat Celtic. I think that might have been the McAnespie last minute winner from a Mahe cross. Sorry we must have commented at the same time. Someone with a better memory might be able to confirm who put the cross in, I don’t remember it as being last minute though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 hours ago, ejksjfc said: The week after that 7-0 gubbing we beat Septic thanks to a brilliant cross from the bye-line from Riseth(?) Sorry we must have commented at the same time. Someone with a better memory might be able to confirm who put the cross in, I don’t remember it as being last minute though. Riseth - one of the best crosses I've ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 4 hours ago, ejksjfc said: The week after that 7-0 gubbing we beat Septic thanks to a brilliant cross from the bye-line from Riseth(?) 1 hour ago, montrosesaintee said: Riseth - one of the best crosses I've ever seen This one? Havana Saint and ex-montrosesaintee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Saint Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 6 hours ago, St Pedro said: short memories of some, football is meant to full of ups and downs, we've just been a bit more spoilt of late i remember us losing 7-0 at home to Advocaats Rangers in Nov. 1998, the only time I've ever came close to leaving any football match early - Dad held me back ... then in glorious Saintee style 5 months later we won at home in April 1999, 3-1, first time I'd witnessed us beating Rangers (born 1970) Jim Weir scored at near post (we'd been moved into west stand) and he went mental as you'd expect, Miguel Simao scored 2nd in 70+ minutes then Kieran McEnespie sealed it on the break in 90mins. Football eh, its why we love it, sometimes we forget that need lows to appreciate the highs Saintee til i die... I remember this as well not only for the score but the next day at my work premises one of my drivers a Teddy Bear called Rab left a tine of 7 up on my desk for me starting work. Got my own back by winding him up about his future work schedules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted August 5, 2019 Report Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, RandomGuy said: This one? Ha ha, pinpoint accuracy. To be fair, he did ridiculously well to dispossess Lowndes, and then made and absolute c**t of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Funny to see about half the Ormond Stand celebrating that goal, looks like it's mixed. I remember the first time Celtic came to McDiarmid (around December 1990?) and we won 3-2, with 3 sides of the ground being Saints fans. Didn't really appreciate how good that was at the time, would love to experience that at least once again, but can't see it ever happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 (edited) Saints started the 7-0 game really well, were unlucky to go behind, then Kano got sent off and that was that Edited August 7, 2019 by dave mc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 45 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: Funny to see about half the Ormond Stand celebrating that goal, looks like it's mixed. Ormond stand was always mixed even for the old firm games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 1 hour ago, garydavidson said: Ormond stand was always mixed even for the old firm games. Not in the first few years it wasn't. When did that start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: Not in the first few years it wasn't. When did that start? Every game I remember being in there it was mixed but couldn't tell you an exact start date. Certainly remember it more v Celtic as they had more fans in there than the rest of the clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Yep I'm pretty sure it was always mixed, going right back to when the ground first opened, because the idea was that it was the "family stand" and was for any families, regardless of allegiance. I have a very clear memory of sitting in the Ormond Stand during McDiarmid's early years, and seeing regular Saints fans suddenly support one of the Old Firm while sitting in their usual seat when they came to visit. Was always flabbergasted by that mindset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chips Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Fecking brutal shenanigans going on with Saints just now, can see Tommy giving up the ghost and deciding to call his own taxi. Wouldn't blame him either Shaggy Jenkins and blueheaven 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Ring Kevin kulik. braw rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristo Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 Well, has he resigned or hasn't he?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kinross Saint Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 If Tommy does resign, who can really blame him? We've not been short of nonsense rumours this summer, it would be typical if this one turns out to be true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 I certainly would if I were TW. Brown is an utter clown. Havana Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasha Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, rik2304 said: I certainly would if I were TW. Brown is an utter clown. It’s always been about the coin, I understand using Randoms statement it’s a business but it’s farcical sometimes. Offering amateur contracts to boys going full time instead of £125 a week. Paying youth coaches £50 per week working out around £3 an hour. Using numerous volunteers to help run the Academy and club. Not replacing a General Manager, which they need desperately etc etc etc The thought of others going bust by paying top wages is a correct one but surely there has to be a balance. Maybe it’s the plan to go down, take the money and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 The problem is that if Tommy goes he will be replaced by Clelland & the Irish guy to save money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted August 8, 2019 Report Share Posted August 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, sasha said: It’s always been about the coin, I understand using Randoms statement it’s a business but it’s farcical sometimes. Offering amateur contracts to boys going full time instead of £125 a week. Paying youth coaches £50 per week working out around £3 an hour. Using numerous volunteers to help run the Academy and club. Not replacing a General Manager, which they need desperately etc etc etc The thought of others going bust by paying top wages is a correct one but surely there has to be a balance. Maybe it’s the plan to go down, take the money and move on. And yet most seasons we run at a loss, unless we sell a player. We haven't had much over 2500 home fans only at a game at McDiarmid for long enough. Its just pie in the sky economics you're coming away with. But that's separate from this summer's transfer business, which has been poor. sasha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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