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Super saints 10 year of success

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This is our 10th year in the top division.

In that time 18 clubs have been the league, 19 if you count 2 from Govan.

Of those 18 only 5 have been in for all 10 years, Saints, Celtic, Aberdeen, Motherwell, Killie.

10 year league table up to kick off today looks like this.

Celtic 861 pts,

Aberdeen 570 pts

Saints 504 pts

Motherwell 490 pts

Killie 434 pts

RFC Combined 432 pts

Hearts 426 pts

DUFC 372 pts

ICT 354 pts

Hibs 306 pts

Ross County 260 pts

St Mirren 232 pts

Hamilton 210 pts

Partick 205 pts

Dundee 182 pts

Dunfermline 55 pts

Falkirk 31pts

Livingstone 30 pts

Amazing record, we don't get a fraction of the credit we deserve.

 

 

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Interesting to see where our points have come from.

Motherwell 53

Aberdeen  44

ST MIrren  43

Killie,Hearts and Hamilton all 42

ICT  37

Hibs & Ross C both 34

Dundee Utd 33

Dundee 30

Partick  24

Celtic 17

Rangers 9

Falkirk  8

Livingstone & Dunfermline both  6

Over 50% of our points from just 6 teams, Motherwell, Killie, Aberdeen, Hearts, Hamilton and ST Mirren.

Bottom 3 all only spent 1 year in top division in last 10 years. 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, blueheaven said:

 

Surprised we haven't taken more points off the two Dundee teams.

No surprise.these two tend to raise their game when playing against they’re local rivals.only natural as we are the top team now.

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On ‎1‎/‎29‎/‎2019 at 9:28 AM, blueheaven said:

Taking 17 points from Celtic over that period is pretty decent. I'd be curious to know if anyone else has taken more than that.

Surprised we haven't taken more points off the two Dundee teams.

The answer to the Dundee teams situation is straightforward, neither of them have been able to sustain top division football over the past 10 years. 

Our points record against Dundee is very good, 5 seasons, 30 pts = 6 per season. Against Utd its 7 seasons, 33 points and ave.4.71 per season.

Interestingly in the first 3 seasons back up we picked up just 5 points from UTD. In the next 4 seasons we picked up 28 points averaging 7 a season which was very good and of course, a Scottish Cup. We really did dominate them .

Average points per season and number of seasons in top division in last 10 years as follows:

Falkirk 1 season, Average pts for Saints 8

ST Mir. 7 seasons, ave. pts 6.14

Hamilton, 7 seasons, ave pts 6

Dundee 5 seasons ave 6 pts

Dunfermline 1 season 6 pts

Livingstone 1 season ave 6pts

Ross Cty 6 seasons ave 5.66 pts.

Motherwell 10 seasons ave 5.3 pts.

ICT 7 seasons ave 5.28 pts

Hibs 7 seasons ave 4.85 pts

P Thistle 5 seasons ave 4.8

Dundee Utd 7 seasons ave 4.71

Hearts 9 seasons ave 4.66

Aberdeen 10 seasons ave 4.4

Killie 10 seasons ave 4.2

Celtic 10 seasons ave 1.7 pts

Rangers 6 seasons ave 1.5

I think 10 years is a long enough period to give a large enough sample of how we are doing against other top division teams.

Anything above 4.5 pts per season means we were on top although appreciate we would play some team 4 times depending upon whether we were in the same half of the league or not.

 

 

 

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On 1/29/2019 at 9:28 AM, blueheaven said:

Taking 17 points from Celtic over that period is pretty decent. I'd be curious to know if anyone else has taken more than that.

Surprised we haven't taken more points off the two Dundee teams.

Just done a check on this it is actually 18.

For last 9 complete years, points won against Celtic from all top division clubs as follows. 

Motherwell 19, Super Saints 18, Aberdeen 17, Kilmarnock 16, Govan combined 16, Hearts 13, Hibs 13, Dundee Utd 10, ICT 9, Ross Cty 9, Dundee 7, St Mirren 4, Hamilton 3, Falkirk 2, Partick Thistle 1, Dunfermline 0, Livingstone 0.

Another fantastic stat from our return to the top division. 

Incidentally, Saints taken more points from Celtic than Dundee clubs combined. 

 

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On 1/29/2019 at 1:28 AM, blueheaven said:

Taking 17 points from Celtic over that period is pretty decent. I'd be curious to know if anyone else has taken more than that.

Surprised we haven't taken more points off the two Dundee teams.

Saints have also been perennial top-sixers, which means playing fewer games against the weaker teams.

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3 hours ago, Ginger Bakers rebel army said:

Just done a check on this it is actually 18.

For last 9 complete years, points won against Celtic from all top division clubs as follows. 

Motherwell 19, Super Saints 18, Aberdeen 17, Kilmarnock 16, Govan combined 16, Hearts 13, Hibs 13, Dundee Utd 10, ICT 9, Ross Cty 9, Dundee 7, St Mirren 4, Hamilton 3, Falkirk 2, Partick Thistle 1, Dunfermline 0, Livingstone 0.

Another fantastic stat from our return to the top division. 

Incidentally, Saints taken more points from Celtic than Dundee clubs combined. 

 

Oh for the days we weren't scared shitless of Celtic.

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On 1/30/2019 at 5:28 PM, Ginger Bakers rebel army said:

The answer to the Dundee teams situation is straightforward, neither of them have been able to sustain top division football over the past 10 years. 

Our points record against Dundee is very good, 5 seasons, 30 pts = 6 per season. Against Utd its 7 seasons, 33 points and ave.4.71 per season.

Interestingly in the first 3 seasons back up we picked up just 5 points from UTD. In the next 4 seasons we picked up 28 points averaging 7 a season which was very good and of course, a Scottish Cup. We really did dominate them .

Average points per season and number of seasons in top division in last 10 years as follows:

Falkirk 1 season, Average pts for Saints 8

ST Mir. 7 seasons, ave. pts 6.14

Hamilton, 7 seasons, ave pts 6

Dundee 5 seasons ave 6 pts

Dunfermline 1 season 6 pts

Livingstone 1 season ave 6pts

Ross Cty 6 seasons ave 5.66 pts.

Motherwell 10 seasons ave 5.3 pts.

ICT 7 seasons ave 5.28 pts

Hibs 7 seasons ave 4.85 pts

P Thistle 5 seasons ave 4.8

Dundee Utd 7 seasons ave 4.71

Hearts 9 seasons ave 4.66

Aberdeen 10 seasons ave 4.4

Killie 10 seasons ave 4.2

Celtic 10 seasons ave 1.7 pts

Rangers 6 seasons ave 1.5

I think 10 years is a long enough period to give a large enough sample of how we are doing against other top division teams.

Anything above 4.5 pts per season means we were on top although appreciate we would play some team 4 times depending upon whether we were in the same half of the league or not.

 

 

 

Wee correction on this Dundee points right but years should be 6 as they were up in 2012/13 for 1 year as well as their current run of 5 in a row. 

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Lots of great away wins from our 10 year run, including wins at Parkhead and Ibrox and our fantastic win at Aberdeen to secure qualification for Europe.

Our biggest away wins include:

17/9/11 Well 0 Saints 3, og, Sandaza, Craig

24/12/11 Pars 0 Saints 3, OG, Sandaza, Craig.

17/3/12 St Mirren 0 Saints 3, Croft, McCracken and Sandaza

 3/10/15 Dons 1 Saints 5 , Easton, Shaughnessy, Craig, Maclean 2

19/3/16 Hearts 0 Saints 3, Davidson 2, Fisher 

8/4/17 ICT 0 Saints 3, MacLean, Craig, Cummings

10/3/18 Dundee 0 saints 4 OG, Kane 2, Alston

5/5/18 Well 1 Saints 5 , Maclean 3, Anderson, McMillan

Great time to be a saintee, great memories.

 

 

 

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Most points gained from another team in a season has been 10.

10 from Hearts in 2016/17 and 10 from Hamilton in seasons 2010/11 and 2017/18.

We have one 100% record, that was against Kilie in season 2012/13 where we took 9 points out of 9.

We also have several 9 out of 12 point tallys  v Hearts in 2011/12, Dufc 2013/14, Motherwell in 2015/16, Thistle 2016/17. 

With 100% records so far this season against St Mirrren, Hamilton, Dundee and Livi there is a great opportunity to take maximum points from all or some of these teams. 

Our strength over the 10 years has been to consistently take points from all teams each year. Apart from 3 seasons against Celtic and one against Rangers the only other time we failed to get any points from another team was Partick Thistle in season 2015/16.

Remarkable performance over a 10 year period. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Ginger Bakers rebel army said:

Most points gained from another team in a season has been 10.

10 from Hearts in 2016/17 and 10 from Hamilton in seasons 2010/11 and 2017/18.

We have one 100% record, that was against Kilie in season 2012/13 where we took 9 points out of 9.

We also have several 9 out of 12 point tallys  v Hearts in 2011/12, Dufc 2013/14, Motherwell in 2015/16, Thistle 2016/17. 

With 100% records so far this season against St Mirrren, Hamilton, Dundee and Livi there is a great opportunity to take maximum points from all or some of these teams. 

Our strength over the 10 years has been to consistently take points from all teams each year. Apart from 3 seasons against Celtic and one against Rangers the only other time we failed to get any points from another team was Partick Thistle in season 2015/16.

Remarkable performance over a 10 year period. 

 

nice one gus.whens the book oot?

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In the 10 years we have been in the top Division in a row we have hit the net 425 times, with the goals shared amongst 69 players plus some O.G's.

Some great memories from reading the list of scorers.

Very difficult to pick a favourite, possibly for me it was Kanes goal at Aberdeen when we won 1 nil to qualify again for Europe. The goals mean nothing without a solid defence which thankfully we have had and a fantastic team spirit.

There's nothing like the feeling when the saintee's score, looking forward to many more.

Top of the list with 48 is Maclean followed by 43 from Craig. Craig would possibly be top if he had not taken some time off at Easter Road.

48 MacLean, 43 Craig, 33 Davidson, 22 May, 17 Wotherspoon, 17 O'Halloran, 14 Sandaza, 14 Cummins, 13 MacKay,13 Kane, 13 Swanson, 12 Anderson, 12 Hasselbaink, 10 Sheridan, 9 Graham, 8 Alston, 7 Samuel, 7 Vine, 6 MacDonald, 5 Deuchar, 5 Kennedy, 5 Shaughnessy, 4 McMillan, 4 Millar, 4 Parkin, 4 Tade, 3 Grainger, 3 Haber, 3 Kerr, 3 Lappin, 3 Morris, 3 F Wright, 3 Croft,.

2 Each, Gartland, Hardie, Johnstone, Morais, Robertson, Scobbie, Watt.

1 each, Adams, Brown, Clancy, Callachan, Cregg, Caddis, Duberry, C.Davidson, Easton, Fisher, Fallon, Foster, Johansson, Jackson,, McFadden, Miller, McCracken, Moon, Milne, Paton, Sutton, Sheerin, Scougall, Taylor, Thomson, Tanser, Watson, Willock, D Wright

Own Goals 12.

 I love being a Saintee.

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