Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 This is our 10th year in the top division. In that time 18 clubs have been the league, 19 if you count 2 from Govan. Of those 18 only 5 have been in for all 10 years, Saints, Celtic, Aberdeen, Motherwell, Killie. 10 year league table up to kick off today looks like this. Celtic 861 pts, Aberdeen 570 pts Saints 504 pts Motherwell 490 pts Killie 434 pts RFC Combined 432 pts Hearts 426 pts DUFC 372 pts ICT 354 pts Hibs 306 pts Ross County 260 pts St Mirren 232 pts Hamilton 210 pts Partick 205 pts Dundee 182 pts Dunfermline 55 pts Falkirk 31pts Livingstone 30 pts Amazing record, we don't get a fraction of the credit we deserve. Valentino Bolognese, Cagerf, McCarry One Nil and 17 others 17 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Wow HOODLUM65 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferg Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Impressed with that! HOODLUM65 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Simply incredibubble. Need to show this to Steve Broon. He'll no be aware of the success he's had. Braw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Average 50 points a season. Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepless Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Scotland's third team. Excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted January 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 Interesting to see where our points have come from. Motherwell 53 Aberdeen 44 ST MIrren 43 Killie,Hearts and Hamilton all 42 ICT 37 Hibs & Ross C both 34 Dundee Utd 33 Dundee 30 Partick 24 Celtic 17 Rangers 9 Falkirk 8 Livingstone & Dunfermline both 6 Over 50% of our points from just 6 teams, Motherwell, Killie, Aberdeen, Hearts, Hamilton and ST Mirren. Bottom 3 all only spent 1 year in top division in last 10 years. RandomGuy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 Taking 17 points from Celtic over that period is pretty decent. I'd be curious to know if anyone else has taken more than that. Surprised we haven't taken more points off the two Dundee teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 17 minutes ago, blueheaven said: Surprised we haven't taken more points off the two Dundee teams. No surprise.these two tend to raise their game when playing against they’re local rivals.only natural as we are the top team now. garydavidson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted January 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/29/2019 at 9:28 AM, blueheaven said: Taking 17 points from Celtic over that period is pretty decent. I'd be curious to know if anyone else has taken more than that. Surprised we haven't taken more points off the two Dundee teams. The answer to the Dundee teams situation is straightforward, neither of them have been able to sustain top division football over the past 10 years. Our points record against Dundee is very good, 5 seasons, 30 pts = 6 per season. Against Utd its 7 seasons, 33 points and ave.4.71 per season. Interestingly in the first 3 seasons back up we picked up just 5 points from UTD. In the next 4 seasons we picked up 28 points averaging 7 a season which was very good and of course, a Scottish Cup. We really did dominate them . Average points per season and number of seasons in top division in last 10 years as follows: Falkirk 1 season, Average pts for Saints 8 ST Mir. 7 seasons, ave. pts 6.14 Hamilton, 7 seasons, ave pts 6 Dundee 5 seasons ave 6 pts Dunfermline 1 season 6 pts Livingstone 1 season ave 6pts Ross Cty 6 seasons ave 5.66 pts. Motherwell 10 seasons ave 5.3 pts. ICT 7 seasons ave 5.28 pts Hibs 7 seasons ave 4.85 pts P Thistle 5 seasons ave 4.8 Dundee Utd 7 seasons ave 4.71 Hearts 9 seasons ave 4.66 Aberdeen 10 seasons ave 4.4 Killie 10 seasons ave 4.2 Celtic 10 seasons ave 1.7 pts Rangers 6 seasons ave 1.5 I think 10 years is a long enough period to give a large enough sample of how we are doing against other top division teams. Anything above 4.5 pts per season means we were on top although appreciate we would play some team 4 times depending upon whether we were in the same half of the league or not. PauloPerth, blueheaven and RandomGuy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted January 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/29/2019 at 9:28 AM, blueheaven said: Taking 17 points from Celtic over that period is pretty decent. I'd be curious to know if anyone else has taken more than that. Surprised we haven't taken more points off the two Dundee teams. Just done a check on this it is actually 18. For last 9 complete years, points won against Celtic from all top division clubs as follows. Motherwell 19, Super Saints 18, Aberdeen 17, Kilmarnock 16, Govan combined 16, Hearts 13, Hibs 13, Dundee Utd 10, ICT 9, Ross Cty 9, Dundee 7, St Mirren 4, Hamilton 3, Falkirk 2, Partick Thistle 1, Dunfermline 0, Livingstone 0. Another fantastic stat from our return to the top division. Incidentally, Saints taken more points from Celtic than Dundee clubs combined. PauloPerth, Old Lethamite and blueheaven 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
california_saintee Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/29/2019 at 1:28 AM, blueheaven said: Taking 17 points from Celtic over that period is pretty decent. I'd be curious to know if anyone else has taken more than that. Surprised we haven't taken more points off the two Dundee teams. Saints have also been perennial top-sixers, which means playing fewer games against the weaker teams. blueheaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Ginger Bakers rebel army said: Just done a check on this it is actually 18. For last 9 complete years, points won against Celtic from all top division clubs as follows. Motherwell 19, Super Saints 18, Aberdeen 17, Kilmarnock 16, Govan combined 16, Hearts 13, Hibs 13, Dundee Utd 10, ICT 9, Ross Cty 9, Dundee 7, St Mirren 4, Hamilton 3, Falkirk 2, Partick Thistle 1, Dunfermline 0, Livingstone 0. Another fantastic stat from our return to the top division. Incidentally, Saints taken more points from Celtic than Dundee clubs combined. Oh for the days we weren't scared shitless of Celtic. rickardo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Quality reading. Love stuff like this. If you worked it out GingerBakers thanks for doing so. Your next homework assignment... Can I have a break down of the above into first half points and second half points ha ha! Ginger Bakers rebel army and Dr Christmas Jones 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Oh oh oh its magic we know Super saints 10 in a row It's magic we know Super saints 10 in a row Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Ginger Bakers rebel army said: Oh oh oh its magic we know Super saints 10 in a row It's magic we know Super saints 10 in a row Hope your taking singing lessons to go with the lyrics. Ginger Bakers rebel army 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted February 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 On 1/30/2019 at 5:28 PM, Ginger Bakers rebel army said: The answer to the Dundee teams situation is straightforward, neither of them have been able to sustain top division football over the past 10 years. Our points record against Dundee is very good, 5 seasons, 30 pts = 6 per season. Against Utd its 7 seasons, 33 points and ave.4.71 per season. Interestingly in the first 3 seasons back up we picked up just 5 points from UTD. In the next 4 seasons we picked up 28 points averaging 7 a season which was very good and of course, a Scottish Cup. We really did dominate them . Average points per season and number of seasons in top division in last 10 years as follows: Falkirk 1 season, Average pts for Saints 8 ST Mir. 7 seasons, ave. pts 6.14 Hamilton, 7 seasons, ave pts 6 Dundee 5 seasons ave 6 pts Dunfermline 1 season 6 pts Livingstone 1 season ave 6pts Ross Cty 6 seasons ave 5.66 pts. Motherwell 10 seasons ave 5.3 pts. ICT 7 seasons ave 5.28 pts Hibs 7 seasons ave 4.85 pts P Thistle 5 seasons ave 4.8 Dundee Utd 7 seasons ave 4.71 Hearts 9 seasons ave 4.66 Aberdeen 10 seasons ave 4.4 Killie 10 seasons ave 4.2 Celtic 10 seasons ave 1.7 pts Rangers 6 seasons ave 1.5 I think 10 years is a long enough period to give a large enough sample of how we are doing against other top division teams. Anything above 4.5 pts per season means we were on top although appreciate we would play some team 4 times depending upon whether we were in the same half of the league or not. Wee correction on this Dundee points right but years should be 6 as they were up in 2012/13 for 1 year as well as their current run of 5 in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted February 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 Lots of great away wins from our 10 year run, including wins at Parkhead and Ibrox and our fantastic win at Aberdeen to secure qualification for Europe. Our biggest away wins include: 17/9/11 Well 0 Saints 3, og, Sandaza, Craig 24/12/11 Pars 0 Saints 3, OG, Sandaza, Craig. 17/3/12 St Mirren 0 Saints 3, Croft, McCracken and Sandaza 3/10/15 Dons 1 Saints 5 , Easton, Shaughnessy, Craig, Maclean 2 19/3/16 Hearts 0 Saints 3, Davidson 2, Fisher 8/4/17 ICT 0 Saints 3, MacLean, Craig, Cummings 10/3/18 Dundee 0 saints 4 OG, Kane 2, Alston 5/5/18 Well 1 Saints 5 , Maclean 3, Anderson, McMillan Great time to be a saintee, great memories. 541ntees, RandomGuy, Dr Christmas Jones and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted February 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Most points gained from another team in a season has been 10. 10 from Hearts in 2016/17 and 10 from Hamilton in seasons 2010/11 and 2017/18. We have one 100% record, that was against Kilie in season 2012/13 where we took 9 points out of 9. We also have several 9 out of 12 point tallys v Hearts in 2011/12, Dufc 2013/14, Motherwell in 2015/16, Thistle 2016/17. With 100% records so far this season against St Mirrren, Hamilton, Dundee and Livi there is a great opportunity to take maximum points from all or some of these teams. Our strength over the 10 years has been to consistently take points from all teams each year. Apart from 3 seasons against Celtic and one against Rangers the only other time we failed to get any points from another team was Partick Thistle in season 2015/16. Remarkable performance over a 10 year period. RandomGuy and blueheaven 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ginger Bakers rebel army said: Most points gained from another team in a season has been 10. 10 from Hearts in 2016/17 and 10 from Hamilton in seasons 2010/11 and 2017/18. We have one 100% record, that was against Kilie in season 2012/13 where we took 9 points out of 9. We also have several 9 out of 12 point tallys v Hearts in 2011/12, Dufc 2013/14, Motherwell in 2015/16, Thistle 2016/17. With 100% records so far this season against St Mirrren, Hamilton, Dundee and Livi there is a great opportunity to take maximum points from all or some of these teams. Our strength over the 10 years has been to consistently take points from all teams each year. Apart from 3 seasons against Celtic and one against Rangers the only other time we failed to get any points from another team was Partick Thistle in season 2015/16. Remarkable performance over a 10 year period. nice one gus.whens the book oot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted February 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 21 hours ago, slf said: nice one gus.whens the book oot? 50 Shades of Blue and White, 10 years of humping at McDiarmid Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 You obviously get better hospitality packages than the rest of us.... cristo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Ginger Bakers rebel army said: 50 Shades of Blue and White, 10 years of humping at McDiarmid Park. braw.it gonnae be a best seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted February 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 In the 10 years we have been in the top Division in a row we have hit the net 425 times, with the goals shared amongst 69 players plus some O.G's. Some great memories from reading the list of scorers. Very difficult to pick a favourite, possibly for me it was Kanes goal at Aberdeen when we won 1 nil to qualify again for Europe. The goals mean nothing without a solid defence which thankfully we have had and a fantastic team spirit. There's nothing like the feeling when the saintee's score, looking forward to many more. Top of the list with 48 is Maclean followed by 43 from Craig. Craig would possibly be top if he had not taken some time off at Easter Road. 48 MacLean, 43 Craig, 33 Davidson, 22 May, 17 Wotherspoon, 17 O'Halloran, 14 Sandaza, 14 Cummins, 13 MacKay,13 Kane, 13 Swanson, 12 Anderson, 12 Hasselbaink, 10 Sheridan, 9 Graham, 8 Alston, 7 Samuel, 7 Vine, 6 MacDonald, 5 Deuchar, 5 Kennedy, 5 Shaughnessy, 4 McMillan, 4 Millar, 4 Parkin, 4 Tade, 3 Grainger, 3 Haber, 3 Kerr, 3 Lappin, 3 Morris, 3 F Wright, 3 Croft,. 2 Each, Gartland, Hardie, Johnstone, Morais, Robertson, Scobbie, Watt. 1 each, Adams, Brown, Clancy, Callachan, Cregg, Caddis, Duberry, C.Davidson, Easton, Fisher, Fallon, Foster, Johansson, Jackson,, McFadden, Miller, McCracken, Moon, Milne, Paton, Sutton, Sheerin, Scougall, Taylor, Thomson, Tanser, Watson, Willock, D Wright Own Goals 12. I love being a Saintee. RandomGuy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Christmas Jones Posted February 6, 2019 Report Share Posted February 6, 2019 Love this and it’s every saints fan’s wet dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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