541ntees Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 For a player to be heckled on his debut like Swanson was was pure idiocy on the part of fans - surely you can't be saying that's something to judge him against. If anything, it's more something for him to judge us against. Perhaps that sort of treatment could even be part of the reason he's not leaping at a return?From what I saw of Swanson, I thought he was a really good player. Not a world-beater and not perfect, but skilful and hard-working with decent pace and the kind of flair our team really lacks. He also plays in a position we desperately need someone in, so personally I'd be delighted to have him back. My main concern is that he'll probably need a bit of time to build up his form and sharpness again, and that may frustrate those in the crowd who'll unrealistically expect him to pick up where he left off at the end of last season.nobody judged him on that performace, he got booed because he was worse than neymar at diving against us when he played for our derby rivals.he went on to play well for us and turn the fans around. the fact he spoke to saints 1st showed that this had no impact on him hes a professional footballer. its pretty clear the only reason he hasnt signed is due to wages nickyg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brogan Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 the fact he spoke to saints 1st showed that this had no impact on him hes a professional footballer. its pretty clear the only reason he hasnt signed is due to wagesWhatever he said in the press, the reason he spoke to Saints first is simply that we were keenest to sign him, not as some mark of respect. He's driven - perfectly fairly - by a desire to get as much money as he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I was feeling a bit left out, so I had source on my sausages this morning.Presumably Swanson would have come to us on loan on those sort of wages, with Coventry picking up the bulk of them. Once he became a free agent, there surely was never any chance of us meeting his demands by ourselves. There must be some money available if there were discussions, especially with Frasier out the door.Mebbee Tommy gambled on the loan deal getting sorted, and got caught out by the sudden release just as the window closed. Mebbee Plans B and C got scuppered as a result. Mebbee Swanson has left his options open to come back - Miller(ar?) and Davidson both did that in recent years.Who knows? No business can or will operate entirely in public, and we can't expect to be updated minute by minute. We can only trust that Tommy is putting together a new Plan B as we speak. Sure as hell the agents of free players will be all over him like a rash.i know this is a football forum, and its precise purpose is for folk to speculate, but I don't understand how some folk got themselves into a mindset where our season depended on signing the lad. He could have got crocked in the first training session. did you have tossed salad and scrambled eggs for breakfast too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsy Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Oh well at least we still have lappin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 did you have tossed salad and scrambled eggs for breakfast too? Yes, oops, thanks Niles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I know for a fact I've lost all respect for certain itk posters after their signed deal confirmation posts. Highland Saintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Mikey Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Nobody else will come in. I thought and said it a week or so ago believing our business was done as we are always told by the chairman our funds and tight, low or on the limit. Piss poor that we have needed a player in a specific position highlighted at the end of last season and we have not got one in. 3 right backs in the squad?!? Lack of central midfielders. Send all the kids out on loan?!I suspect someone is getting confused by what they are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_Beatson Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Nobody else will come in. I thought and said it a week or so ago believing our business was done as we are always told by the chairman our funds and tight, low or on the limit. Piss poor that we have needed a player in a specific position highlighted at the end of last season and we have not got one in. 3 right backs in the squad?!? Lack of central midfielders. Send all the kids out on loan?!I suspect someone is getting confused by what they are doing. I don't think we're lacking in central midfielders. Millar and Davidson are the preferred pairing but you've also got Lappin, Craig and Wotherspoon available for those positions. That's certainly not an area where I think we're weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I don't think we've got a weak squad at all, and bar some defensive cockups we've played some good football this season. It was easy to elevate the Swanson prospect to some kind of holy grail, because he turned our season around last year, but it was always a luxury signing rather than an essential one for me.We need to stop leaking goals. We need Ando fit far far more than we NEEDED Swanson. The only thing that has baffled me, or at least disappointed me is moving Frazer on. He should have been playing in place of Scobbie since the start of the season for as many minutes as he was able IMO. byebyedundee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lang toon saintie Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I know that this is getting tedious but I am lead to believe that the duck aint dead yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas Monkey Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I know that this is getting tedious but I am lead to believe that the duck aint dead yet And off we go again ............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerthSeany Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 And off we go again .............where are you going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas Monkey Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 where are you going?Such a good question.....not a clue! Every journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step as the Chinese say!! PerthSeany 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin James Is On Stilts Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 He spoke to us first as he agreed to, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's got to agree to our deal straight away. He knows what Saints are offering, and if he's now looking at other options then I'm sure ours will still be on the table for a short while.No different to how most free agent contract negotiations go I'd assume, except there were hopes raised at our end by assuming that speaking to Saints first automatically meant signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown_Out Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 He spoke to us first as he agreed to, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's got to agree to our deal straight away. He knows what Saints are offering, and if he's now looking at other options then I'm sure ours will still be on the table for a short while.No different to how most free agent contract negotiations go I'd assume, except there were hopes raised at our end by assuming that speaking to Saints first automatically meant signing.LAUGH OUT LOUDas if you have first clue what is happening with swanson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin James Is On Stilts Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 LAUGH OUT LOUDas if you have first clue what is happening with swansonOh please do show me where I claimed to know exactly what's happening?I'm probably the least in the know person on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerthSeany Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 As I said on the day he was released he is out to listen to other offers. When I said it I just got stick for it... I wasnt far wrong though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 LAUGH OUT LOUDas if you have first clue what is happening with swanson I am assuming that if you type l o l on here it automatically posts LAUGH OUT LOUD to try to put people off from using text speak (which is against forum rules). If this is manually set by the moderators, can it not be set to type 'I AM A GIANT PENIS' instead? Would be more amusing, and i'm quite sure more effective. rugbno1, fazman1977, Jiangsu Sainty and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brogan Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 As I said on the day he was released he is out to listen to other offers. When I said it I just got stick for it... I wasnt far wrong though. What stick did you get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Iwelimbo Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 What stick did you get? A wooden one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Anybody know where to find the free agents list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Anybody know where to find the free agents list?Tommy's office? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Mikey Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Surprised it has all gone quiet for any player to fill the gap of a position TW has been trying to get filled since May.There are players out there who could do a job but has the purse strings been tightened now or is there a possibility of a loan or signing up a free agent?I wonder what the WAP mystery ball produces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Unofficial Twitter has quotes saying hes looked at the free agents list and he expects it'll be January before he can add anyone. Think we can only get free agents now, and all those out there will be wanting more than Swanson/not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
208saint Posted September 9, 2015 Report Share Posted September 9, 2015 Anybody know where to find the free agents list?Under Steve Brown's mattress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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