rik2304 Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Farid El Alagui freed. Been in for him before so maybe Tommy will be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDougie Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Ziggy Gordon still without a club, Greg Stewart looking to move on from Dundee.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilgour Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Farid El Alagui freed. Been in for him before so maybe Tommy will be interested. Would be reckless unless its "pay as you play" as his fitness / injuries are a worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBored Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Can't see us going for the likes of him when we have just got rid of Sutton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 El Alagui is knackered with knee problems and was earning more than most our squad last season. Ziggy Gordon is joining a Polish side and Stewarts destined for Rangers at some point in the next 12 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 El Alagui is knackered with knee problems and was earning more than most our squad last season. Ziggy Gordon is joining a Polish side and Stewarts destined for Rangers at some point in the next 12 months. Ziggy Gordon apparently turned down the polish side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted July 6, 2016 Report Share Posted July 6, 2016 Ziggy Gordon apparently turned down the polish side. Good. Bloody foreigner, going over there and taking a Polish job. Denzil, Highland Saintee, saintj and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin James Is On Stilts Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Would be reckless unless its "pay as you play" as his fitness / injuries are a worry. Give me one example of a player at this level that is on/has been on a pay as you play deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilgour Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Give me one example of a player at this level that is on/has been on a pay as you play deal. I cant,therefore I would not be looking to sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David123 Posted July 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Give me one example of a player at this level that is on/has been on a pay as you play deal. McFadden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Give me one example of a player at this level that is on/has been on a pay as you play deal. Michael owen when he was at man utd and Abou Diaby was negotiating it with Arsenal last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south inch Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Give me one example of a player at this level that is on/has been on a pay as you play deal. George Best at Hibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 These players werent on "pay as you play" deals. To think any player would accept a deal like that is mad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 These players werent on "pay as you play" deals. To think any player would accept a deal like that is mad. Wrong Radom!!! Michael Owen was actually on a pay per play deal at 2 separate clubs. Firstly at Man Utd and secondly at Stoke City. George Best actually signed a £2000 per match pay as you play deal at Hibs many years ago (probably before you were born). south inch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 Wrong Radom!!! Michael Owen was actually on a pay per play deal at 2 separate clubs. Firstly at Man Utd and secondly at Stoke City. George Best actually signed a £2000 per match pay as you play deal at Hibs many years ago (probably before you were born). You believe Michael Owen willingly turned down a wages every week? Reduced initial wage with massive appearance fees is plausible, only getting paid when you play is not. Best was a massive alcoholic who'd do almost anything to get enough money to pay for drink, I'm not sure hes a great example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted July 7, 2016 Report Share Posted July 7, 2016 You believe Michael Owen willingly turned down a wages every week? Reduced initial wage with massive appearance fees is plausible, only getting paid when you play is not. Best was a massive alcoholic who'd do almost anything to get enough money to pay for drink, I'm not sure hes a great example. You really are incredible. Owen had pay per play deals including bonuses for goals. He turned down offers from other club's to sign for man United as he had been plagued by injury the season before. As for best he was on pay per play end of. That was what was said above. Pat McGroin and south inch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Yes, Owen was on a pay per play deal. Remember it well. Also he had made his pile by that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Players on supposed "pay as you play" deals will still pick up a basic salary. Just read a Telegraph article about Owen's move to Stoke that calls it pay as you play but goes on to say it includes a "basic" salary of 25k a week. If I could get that sort of pay as you play deal I'd quite happily never play. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/stoke-city/9520735/Michael-Owen-joins-Stoke-after-agreeing-a-12-month-deal.html McFadden was mentioned further up the thread, but I'm sure he'll have been on a basic salary at Saints too, unless someone can find a link saying otherwise. Jiangsu Sainty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Players on supposed "pay as you play" deals will still pick up a basic salary. Just read a Telegraph article about Owen's move to Stoke that calls it pay as you play but goes on to say it includes a "basic" salary of 25k a week. If I could get that sort of pay as you play deal I'd quite happily never play. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/stoke-city/9520735/Michael-Owen-joins-Stoke-after-agreeing-a-12-month-deal.html McFadden was mentioned further up the thread, but I'm sure he'll have been on a basic salary at Saints too, unless someone can find a link saying otherwise. Blue heaven there was a counter to that article stating it was made up and according to pullis the contract was similar to woodgates in the previous season on a pay as you play. http://m.stokesentinel.co.uk/stoke-city-michael-owen-tony-pulis-slam-salary/story-17594517-detail/story.html Did saints not sign person on a pay as you play deal at one point at the end of his injury spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) Tommy holding back the number 5 shirt for a big signing? Edited July 8, 2016 by R.B.B:- Adz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
541ntees Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 i see Tam is now Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSam1884 Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 I don't believe pay per play deals - the way fans think of them - actually exist. If a player was injured for six months he would not earn a thing because he wasn't playing? Would the player claim statutory sick pay from the government and pick up £300 a month to live on? I doubt it. It's more likely a hugely reduced salary with appearance bonuses than zero money unless you play. The manager wouldn't necessarily pick the player every week even if he was fit. So in the event the player is fit but doesn't play for tactical/form related reasons, that opens up a legal can of worms for the club surely? Player: "I was fit and they refused to play me because it would cost them £10k every time I played" Club: "The manager didn't pick him for tactical reasons/other players were playing better" Player: "I trained 5 days a week and was available for match day selection but earned no money because they chose not to play me" The Michael Owen scenario - I would be far more inclined to believe it was a reduced basic salary with lucrative appearance bonuses than this notion that he earned nothing (zilch) unless he played. I think that sort of contract was made up on football supporters forums. It would be verging on slave labour if you employed someone and only offered to pay them if they played. If they don't play they aren't even earning minimum wage. Too many potential pitfalls for clubs to even consider it an option I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Saint Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 Do not see what all these posts about pay per play has any relevance to this thread except supporters being bored and throwing names into the hat as potential signings. Lets wait until someone is given an opportunity to train, play or sign for us before surmising what they will or will not be paid. I know its a bit borrowing because we done business early and there is limited wiggle room for future additions. tucker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 A pay per play deal is a essentially a low basic wage for a player's ability supplemented by large bonuses. I'm sure such deals will probably be based on fitness to play rather than selection. Putting Owen's deal in perspective, his previous salary was into 6 figures per week at Newcastle. SaintSam1884 and Dr Christmas Jones 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSam1884 Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 A pay per play deal is a essentially a low basic wage for a player's ability supplemented by large bonuses. I'm sure such deals will probably be based on fitness to play rather than selection. Putting Owen's deal in perspective, his previous salary was into 6 figures per week at Newcastle. So to him it was a pay as you play deal because the basic was so paltry it was almost nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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