Broggy Man Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 Probably less chance than that Random Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Jenkins Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, R.B.B:- Adz said: Kyle McClean back to Linfield on loan. One down, 3 or 4 to go. #centrebackforchrismas Was he not released months ago? Pat McGroin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, Shaggy Jenkins said: Was he not released months ago? Absolutely fair point.. haha! I’m deleting dunkeldneil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 22 hours ago, andrew said: One other factor no one has noted in all this goes back to the meet the board event - the role of agents. How do we know that they didn’t mess up our recruitment, or at least contribute to it? It’s not as straightforward as we might think or portray - we’re commenting without important facts. Not defending the club, but trying to balance things a bit. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 19 hours ago, Linky said: Whatever the ins and outs, we are without a central defender. The transfer situation has been bad - everything seems rushed, with little planning ahead. The Foster situation didn’t help, but was outside Tommy’s control I imagine. I’m a Tommy fan, but this hasn’t been handled well. I think it's fair to say that Saints over the last few years have found signing players to be extremely difficult. It's hard for us on the outside to know exactly why that is - does Tommy lack the ability to spot the right players, or struggle to convince players to come here? Is it all about budget? Or is it the chairman's fault for not getting the negotiations right? I don't think it's forward planning that is the issue, personally - I think Tommy is pretty good at planning ahead and knowing what he wants, but it's in pulling off those plans once the transfer window opens that we seem to fall short. For example, the manager has openly talked about needing a central defender in the next window, so the forward planning is there, but I still suspect we'll be scrabbling around desperately trying to get a target to come in when the window is about to close. Coyle, McInnes and Lomas all seemed to find it relatively easy to bring in players and even managed to attract bigger names than we'd often expect (possibly partly due to their contacts and personas?). Wright, on the other hand, has always really struggled in this area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, blueheaven said: I think it's fair to say that Saints over the last few years have found signing players to be extremely difficult. It's hard for us on the outside to know exactly why that is - does Tommy lack the ability to spot the right players, or struggle to convince players to come here? Is it all about budget? Or is it the chairman's fault for not getting the negotiations right? I don't think it's forward planning that is the issue, personally - I think Tommy is pretty good at planning ahead and knowing what he wants, but it's in pulling off those plans once the transfer window opens that we seem to fall short. For example, the manager has openly talked about needing a central defender in the next window, so the forward planning is there, but I still suspect we'll be scrabbling around desperately trying to get a target to come in when the window is about to close. Coyle, McInnes and Lomas all seemed to find it relatively easy to bring in players and even managed to attract bigger names than we'd often expect (possibly partly due to their contacts and personas?). Wright, on the other hand, has always really struggled in this area. Yes, I have wondered exactly where the fault lies. There are some comments that suggest it is the Chairman: when Tommy said the Chairman 'likes a wee flutter' when it comes to the end of the transfer window, it sounded like Tommy wakes up the next morning and finds out who the Chairman has bought this time! There also seems to be a lot of mixed messages: Tommy says he wants a striker and a central defender, for example, and then comes out and says there is no budget for anyone. Is it that the Chairman believes he can get a good deal if he waits until the last minute because players are desperate? Maybe he's been priced out of pre-contract arrangements too many times because players' agents play clubs against one another? Either way, it comes across as if we're scrabbling around at the last minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 Fault? Its the lack of fans turning up each week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dave H said: Fault? Its the lack of fans turning up each week. I have a season ticket and still don’t turn up often. Entertainment value isn’t great if we’re being honest. Even when we win, it’s usually not a great way of spending 2hrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 13 hours ago, Pat McGroin said: I have a season ticket and still don’t turn up often. Entertainment value isn’t great if we’re being honest. Even when we win, it’s usually not a great way of spending 2hrs That is the main reason apart from poor results that I want Tommy to GTF. The support has dwindled over the years due to anti football over the past few seasons. The row I sit in the East used to be filled by season tickets now there are loads of seats without stickers on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Cagey said: That is the main reason apart from poor results that I want Tommy to GTF. The support has dwindled over the years due to anti football over the past few seasons. The row I sit in the East used to be filled by season tickets now there are loads of seats without stickers on them. Want me to quote our average attendances, or will you just admit you're talking absolute pish and save me the bother? blueheaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, Cagey said: I want Tommy to GTF. Horrendously disrespectful. TW has been nothing short of a hugely successful manager for Saints. SaintJet, Radford 72 and blueheaven 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 37 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: Want me to quote our average attendances, or will you just admit you're talking absolute pish and save me the bother? Yes please but stick with home support only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 37 minutes ago, rik2304 said: Horrendously disrespectful. TW has been nothing short of a hugely successful manager for Saints. Agree with your first sentence but we are in a league of 10 average teams with a few years without Sevco & Edinburgh clubs out of the league so we may have done a lot better with a decent manager. blueheaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Cagey said: Agree with your first sentence but we are in a league of 10 average teams with a few years without Sevco & Edinburgh clubs out of the league so we may have done a lot better with a decent manager. Such as? More Scottish Cups? More top 4 finishes? TW is far from perfect and and has made some bad signing decisions this season but I genuinely don't believe that another manager could have achieved more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Jack Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Cagey said: Agree with your first sentence but we are in a league of 10 average teams with a few years without Sevco & Edinburgh clubs out of the league so we may have done a lot better with a decent manager. Unbelievable. blueheaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akuram Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Ando showing us what we are missing tonight in the game at Raith. Mopping up everything at the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Ferg Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 hours ago, akuram said: Ando showing us what we are missing tonight in the game at Raith. Mopping up everything at the back. Whilst Raith lost 2 goals to Elgin City and arguably should have conceded a first half penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy rhodes fancy watch Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 12 hours ago, akuram said: Ando showing us what we are missing tonight in the game at Raith. Mopping up everything at the back. Against Elgin? C'mon tae ****. Ando was past it 2 seasons ago. Havana Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Saints Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Do you remember when you were young and you thought that your parents were never wrong about anything? Do you remember the day when you first realised that they actually blether absolute shite on a regular basis? Well, I started posting on this forum as a youngster who believed that Cagey’s posts were knowledgable and measured. garydavidson and blueheaven 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, The Real Saints said: Do you remember when you were young and you thought that your parents were never wrong about anything? Do you remember the day when you first realised that they actually blether absolute shite on a regular basis? Well, I started posting on this forum as a youngster who believed that Cagey’s posts were knowledgable and measured. No. I thought my parents were always wrong! Might start calling Cagey Dad Edited November 16, 2019 by Pat McGroin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Pat McGroin said: No. I thought my parents were always wrong! Might start calling Cagey Dad he likes tae pat his groin.best tae call him paw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) New centre-back in January? Ef off! Edited November 17, 2019 by R.B.B:- Adz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 Papers this morning saying we're competing with Hibernian for Efe Ambrose. Hes clearly experienced and a huge upgrade on Duffy, but hes never really seemed like a "leader" to me, and always seemed prone to absolute disasters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 Just what we need, someone else to make stupid errors that lead to goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broggy Man Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 Bombscare Havana Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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