R.B.B:- Adz Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 If I was given the remit of describing a defender that we would NOT want in our squad at present, I reckon I would pretty much sculpt Efe Ambrose. We need Jim Weir, Michael Duberry, Frazer Wright... We need blood, sweat and tears. Someone who can barely kick the ball the length of themselves but would rather piss broken glass than lose a header or concede a goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Saint Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 (edited) Alan Hutton, without a club, is worth a punt. He is not a centre half but we could do with a man of his experience in a defence of Tanser, Ambrose, Kerr and Hutton. Short Term obviously to bring some stability. Have we got the dosh to have them until January though. Pay per game maybe. Edited November 17, 2019 by Dutch Saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 Quite a few options out there for experienced centre backs but some of them will either be too expensive or too risky... I’d argue that we need to spend some cash and take some risks so I guess that opens things up. Notables were Christopher Samba(Blackburn, QPR, Aston Villa) and Marc Wilson(Stoke, Sunderland, Bolton) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 ITK guy on P&B says we've been speaking to Ambrose for the past month and its not looking likely, so that maybe puts into perspective where the budget is. Hes been without a club since the Summer and hasnt playing since January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: ITK guy on P&B says we've been speaking to Ambrose for the past month and its not looking likely, so that maybe puts into perspective where the budget is. Hes been without a club since the Summer and hasnt playing since January. Not exactly short of a bob though is he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 2 hours ago, RandomGuy said: ITK guy on P&B says we've been speaking to Ambrose for the past month and its not looking likely, so that maybe puts into perspective where the budget is. Hes been without a club since the Summer and hasnt playing since January. Maybe Hibs being mentioned to up the anti by agent. New manager just in the door so can't see him moving as fast without assessing what he has. As you say he hasn't kicked a ball in earnest for 10 months & never got on the pitch for Derby. We have required a CB for a while & Ambrose has been available so why now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 20 hours ago, R.B.B:- Adz said: If I was given the remit of describing a defender that we would NOT want in our squad at present, I reckon I would pretty much sculpt Efe Ambrose. We need Jim Weir, Michael Duberry, Frazer Wright... We need blood, sweat and tears. Someone who can barely kick the ball the length of themselves but would rather piss broken glass than lose a header or concede a goal. We could do with "Blood , sweat and tears" . Liked their "Got to get you into my life". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy rhodes fancy watch Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 Folk turning their noses up saying Ambrose is a bomb scare? He would instantly improve our defence, then when fit would probably be our best player. We probably have no chance of it happening anyway but some folk need a reality check on the standard of your average Saints player. Stumpy1949, The Kinross Saint, Nold and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 I would take Ambrose in a heartbeat. Think a few in here content to remember a handful of mistakes he has made in the last 10 years and use those as the basis to write him off as a "bombscare" without actually having watched him much. Same sort of folk that wouldn't have taken Encklmann becuase he once conceded a daft own-goal. Hibs fans would take him back in a second, as would the rest of the Hibs defence (Porteous continually pointed to him as a key part of his development, talking him through games and adding composure and calm when they needed it most). Blood, sweat and tears sounds great but I would rather have a bit of calm and correct decision making. Nold and Nelly78 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 Ambrose is a class defender at this level. I seriously doubt we could afford him though. Unless he wants to put himself in the shop window until the summer, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 I'd be happy with Ambrose. Delighted in fact. I've always been impressed when I've seen him against us and I think he's far steadier and composed than he gets credit for. However I can't see it happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy rhodes fancy watch Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Pink said: Same sort of folk that wouldn't have taken Encklmann becuase he once conceded a daft own-goal. An own goal which at the time should not have stood. Referee blunder more than Enkleman imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Paul Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 If Ambrose is a free agent, why do we have to wait till January to sign him ? I was under the impression that free agents could be signed at any point, as long as their previous contracts had been terminated before the end of the transfer window. This makes me think that this is all a bit of a smokescreen, as if we really wanted him, we could just sign him now and get him fit before January. Cagey and Havana Saint 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Saint Paul said: If Ambrose is a free agent, why do we have to wait till January to sign him ? I was under the impression that free agents could be signed at any point, as long as their previous contracts had been terminated before the end of the transfer window. This makes me think that this is all a bit of a smokescreen, as if we really wanted him, we could just sign him now and get him fit before January. We don't have to wait until January to sign Ambrose. There are a vast number of reasons why players don't instantly sign for Saints when we come knocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/18/2019 at 12:13 PM, Pink said: I would take Ambrose in a heartbeat. Think a few in here content to remember a handful of mistakes he has made in the last 10 years and use those as the basis to write him off as a "bombscare" without actually having watched him much. Same sort of folk that wouldn't have taken Encklmann becuase he once conceded a daft own-goal. Yeah yeah, you’re right, that would be CRAZY to assume that Enckelman was mistake prone after seeing that one mistake.. totally!! https://youtu.be/OWq_ujkyBVc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, R.B.B:- Adz said: Yeah yeah, you’re right, that would be CRAZY to assume that Enckelman was mistake prone after seeing that one mistake.. totally!! https://youtu.be/OWq_ujkyBVc If he had dived he would have saved that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Cagey said: If he had dived he would have saved that. Using Enckelman as an endorsement to sign Ambrose is a worse idea than Prince Andrew deciding to give the BBC an interview. Enckelman had so many clangers with us. Edited November 20, 2019 by R.B.B:- Adz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 8 hours ago, R.B.B:- Adz said: Using Enckelman as an endorsement to sign Ambrose is a worse idea than Prince Andrew deciding to give the BBC an interview. Enckelman had so many clangers with us. Apparently Tommy has had a look at Prince Andrew, after hearing he could score in a brothel. cristo, Coltrane, Dave Ferg and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 So, what realistically needs to happen in the January transfer window?In order to get anyone in, we need to move the following players on: Swanson (I actually think he offers more than O’Halloran, but the manager doesn’t seem to agree) Callachan Vihmann We then have 2 choices, change to a 5-4-1 formation, and add 2 new central defenders, move Kennedy to sit just behind May and Wright to right wing back. Or, bring in one central defender and another striker to play alongside May in a 4-4-2 formation (either Kane or Hendry need to go out on loan) For the striker I’d suggest bringing MacLean back. Central defenders need to have experience, perhaps Whittaker from Hibs or Dikamona from Hearts. We haven’t got time to look outside the box at anyone beyond the SPL. Anyone without a club will have to take too long to be fit. These will have to be loans as no one will want to sign for a club bottom of the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Linky said: So, what realistically needs to happen in the January transfer window?In order to get anyone in, we need to move the following players on: Swanson (I actually think he offers more than O’Halloran, but the manager doesn’t seem to agree) Callachan Vihmann We then have 2 choices, change to a 5-4-1 formation, and add 2 new central defenders, move Kennedy to sit just behind May and Wright to right wing back. Or, bring in one central defender and another striker to play alongside May in a 4-4-2 formation (either Kane or Hendry need to go out on loan) For the striker I’d suggest bringing MacLean back. Central defenders need to have experience, perhaps Whittaker from Hibs or Dikamona from Hearts. We haven’t got time to look outside the box at anyone beyond the SPL. Anyone without a club will have to take too long to be fit. These will have to be loans as no one will want to sign for a club bottom of the table. Bringing McLean back?? I know we are requiring an experienced player but surely there are experienced players that are younger than him Edited December 2, 2019 by mainstand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, mainstand said: Bringing McLean back?? I know we are requiring an experienced player but surely there are experienced players that are younger than him Our options are limited. Who wants to play for a club bottom of the table? We know he links up well with May. He knows the club, knows Tommy, gives everything, I doubt any new Hearts manager would be that bothered about keeping him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broggy Man Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 We already had one heart string signings we don’t need another god knows how we have gathered together this squad of so called attacking players and completely forgot about building from the back Havana Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 James Dunne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Center Half Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 A little rumour from South Yorkshire last week when I was down , a Scottish Internationalist CB/LB we have inquired about? Id never heard of him to be fair, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Center Half said: A little rumour from South Yorkshire last week when I was down , a Scottish Internationalist CB/LB we have inquired about? Id never heard of him to be fair, Barry Douglas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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