Havana Saint Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Should have had him on a longer contract which could have protected us better financially. All the best. A super talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Cleveland-Saint said: I understand, i know our place .... but despite the whisky enabled rant last night, dont we have the money in the bank to keep someone like matty? He be worth 2 places in the league for all we know, worth bums in seats for the long term as he was entertaining to watch.... At some point, caretaking versus any kind of aspiration gets to a tipping point and we will fall a division, and/or bounce off bottom of spfl with lower and lower crowds. I guess i just worry in where the end game is for saints....and as someone moving back in next 5 years or so, i have selfish motivation. So we go out and offer him a mega bucks contract to keep him at the club. The agent that negotiated that contract has Zander and your McCann so immediately gets them to rock the boat in an effort to get an extended contract at the same rates as Kennedy. We are soon left not with £2m in the bank but a £2m overdraft ala livi Motherwell Dundee and rangers all of whom felt the consequences of paying over the top wages. I personally think we have the players that can cover for his departure so not overly concerned although I would have liked him to stay. Stumpy1949, Pat McGroin, templeofsaints and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Matty has played well for us. Would have preferred if he had gone down south rather than to rivals in the league. Good luck to him. Who knows, he's only 25 so he might be back one day. tucker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havana Saint Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 At least he stays until the end of season. If he went now you'd be looking at a very likely relegation. His assists and goals should get us out of the mess we are in.....I hope. tucker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 44 minutes ago, mainstand said: So we go out and offer him a mega bucks contract to keep him at the club. The agent that negotiated that contract has Zander and your McCann so immediately gets them to rock the boat in an effort to get an extended contract at the same rates as Kennedy. We are soon left not with £2m in the bank but a £2m overdraft ala livi Motherwell Dundee and rangers all of whom felt the consequences of paying over the top wages. I personally think we have the players that can cover for his departure so not overly concerned although I would have liked him to stay. We should aim to be a selling club. That way, we’re bringing in guys with ability who might have lost their way a bit, then benefiting them and ourselves by letting them shine. We stuffed up here by not signing him on a longer deal quickly. You could see his ability when he pinged in a thunderbolt 30 yarder on his debut at Station Park. With players as good as Matty, longer deals should be on the table ASAP. Same with Drey. mainstand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted January 15, 2020 Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 In other news, Record reporting Ross Callachan will join Dundee on loan, should be done before the weekend. tucker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJet Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 11 hours ago, Havana Saint said: Should have had him on a longer contract which could have protected us better financially. All the best. A super talent. I think everyone is forgetting that Steve Brown declared early last year that he was frustrated that Kennedy's agent refused to entertain contract talks until a "later date". It was the same with Dre Wright who was still on the treatment table when Brown tried to open negotiations. It is frustrating but players come here find brilliant form and then look for a bigger stage where often they dont realise the form they displayed at St.Johnstone. It's something we should be proud of and display our bona fides when trying to encourage a player who we want to come here. Coltrane, Stumpy1949, tucker and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 10 hours ago, RandomGuy said: In other news, Record reporting Ross Callachan will join Dundee on loan, should be done before the weekend. Hopefully frees up some space to bring one in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 11 hours ago, RandomGuy said: In other news, Record reporting Ross Callachan will join Dundee on loan, should be done before the weekend. Good luck to the lad. Something has gone on as the guy is not a brilliant footballer but he gave everything & his display at Dens was brilliant. I think he could score a few for Dundee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 Sounding like a permanent deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankfoot saint Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Pat McGroin said: Sounding like a permanent deal Loan till end of season but think he might be out of contract in the summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintJet Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Cagey said: Good luck to the lad. Something has gone on as the guy is not a brilliant footballer but he gave everything & his display at Dens was brilliant. I think he could score a few for Dundee. I agree Cagey. The lad had a real motor about him and added a good bit of stability in midfield. I was sure he would come back in to the picture, seems strange he just dropped out of favour. He always gave a 100% - good luck to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, SaintJet said: I was sure he would come back in to the picture, seems strange he just dropped out of favour. Murray Davidson, Jason Holt, Ali McCann and Liam Craig are all better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 What I'm looking forward to in the future is Tommy trying to sign Matty back in every transfer window until the end of eternity. garydavidson and Pat McGroin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, blueheaven said: What I'm looking forward to in the future is Tommy trying to sign Matty back in every transfer window until the end of eternity. You never know, he could still end up playing for Tommy next season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Saint Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 14 hours ago, RandomGuy said: In other news, Record reporting Ross Callachan will join Dundee on loan, should be done before the weekend. Also in Dundee Courier: " Callachan agrees deal to make dens move" Dundee have agreed deal with St Johnstone to bring midfielder Ross Callachan to Dens Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny B Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Templar Saint said: Also in Dundee Courier: " Callachan agrees deal to make dens move" Dundee have agreed deal with St Johnstone to bring midfielder Ross Callachan to Dens Park. Does that mean that Dundee are picking up all of his wages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 2 hours ago, RandomGuy said: Murray Davidson, Jason Holt, Ali McCann and Liam Craig are all better. I am sure they are ,but he was out of Tommy's plans before McCann became a regular & Holt was signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Saint Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 28 minutes ago, Johnny B said: Does that mean that Dundee are picking up all of his wages? Would think it means that he has or will be leaving Saints and becoming a Dundee player on contract. Johnny B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 hours ago, RandomGuy said: Murray Davidson, Jason Holt, Ali McCann and Liam Craig are all better. Was it the flu? saint in the city 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Cagey said: I am sure they are ,but he was out of Tommy's plans before McCann became a regular & Holt was signed. Was he? He started most games at the end of last season. This season hes started the first League Cup game, and the first league game. McCann replaced him in the first game, then started most games since, and Holt arrived after game 3 or 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templar Saint Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Templar Saint said: Also in Dundee Courier: " Callachan agrees deal to make dens move" Dundee have agreed deal with St Johnstone to bring midfielder Ross Callachan to Dens Park. Confirmed as on loan til end of season. Imagine his wages are affordable in full by Dundee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havana Saint Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 7 hours ago, blueheaven said: What I'm looking forward to in the future is Tommy trying to sign Matty back in every transfer window until the end of eternity. and telling us the deal is "dead" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 That’s one out, time for one in. https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/dundee-boost-midfield-options-with-loan-signing-of-st-johnstones-ross-callachan/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted January 16, 2020 Report Share Posted January 16, 2020 I wouldnt be surprised if Saints didnt bring anyone in at all. Tommy hinted at that being the case, softing the blow that no one is really fitting the bill of what we need, what we can afford and who is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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