AthensSaint Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Agree it's pure speculation, sorry if that wasn't clear. I'm a pessimist by nature. I don't buy the 'it takes time' thing though. Why would anyone with a family to support agree to terminate a contract of employment unless they were damn sure they wouldn't be left out in the cold?Be an optimist, it is far more fun : ) ex-montrosesaintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 But you are surmising. You don't know any details. No, I know nothing other than he has left Coventry and there has been no announcement of him signing with us or anyone else. However, my frustration is compounded by certain people posting 'he has signed a 2 year deal, reliable source' pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 No, I know nothing other than he has left Coventry and there has been no announcement of him signing with us or anyone else. However, my frustration is compounded by certain people posting 'he has signed a 2 year deal, reliable source' pish.I suggest you do not get frustrated by posts on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Agree it's pure speculation, sorry if that wasn't clear. I'm a pessimist by nature. I don't buy the 'it takes time' thing though. Why would anyone with a family to support agree to terminate a contract of employment unless they were damn sure they wouldn't be left out in the cold?Exactly. I think we're roughly on the same page, just coming to different conclusions! He was about to join us on loan and would have had the security of the permanent deal at Coventry. If he didn't think that the club he was happy to join could afford/wanted him, then he would never have agreed to terminate his contract when we would've brought him in on loan anyway. Indeed, it could be that Saints said they would offer him 2/3 years on those terms and he was willing to take the hit financially for longer term job security? Bearing in mind that Coventry will have paid up at least a percentage of his contract.He said that he would be 'assessing his options', but that's one throwaway sentence in the whole interview. He said he as keen to come back to Saints, he loved the area, his wife loved the area, he got on well with the players etc etc etc.I really don't see any need to panic. If he goes elsewhere, we move on. If he signs, then we know we're getting a guy who fits into the squad, is exciting to watch and that will score/create some goals for us. AthensSaint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin James Is On Stilts Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 No, I know nothing other than he has left Coventry and there has been no announcement of him signing with us or anyone else. However, my frustration is compounded by certain people posting 'he has signed a 2 year deal, reliable source' pish.You've surely been on here long enough to know not to believe what's been posted as 'fact' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Exactly. I think we're roughly on the same page, just coming to different conclusions! He was about to join us on loan and would have had the security of the permanent deal at Coventry. If he didn't think that the club he was happy to join could afford/wanted him, then he would never have agreed to terminate his contract when we would've brought him in on loan anyway. Indeed, it could be that Saints said they would offer him 2/3 years on those terms and he was willing to take the hit financially for longer term job security? Bearing in mind that Coventry will have paid up at least a percentage of his contract.He said that he would be 'assessing his options', but that's one throwaway sentence in the whole interview. He said he as keen to come back to Saints, he loved the area, his wife loved the area, he got on well with the players etc etc etc.I really don't see any need to panic. If he goes elsewhere, we move on. If he signs, then we know we're getting a guy who fits into the squad, is exciting to watch and that will score/create some goals for us.Actually all that you said in the above makes perfect sense. I cannot believe you are the same person who banned me. Kyle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Actually all that you said in the above makes perfect sense. I cannot believe you are the same person who banned me.Pessimist AthensSaint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Actually all that you said in the above makes perfect sense. I cannot believe you are the same person who banned me.Showed amazing sense twice blueheaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Pessimist I think that the international break helps Swanson. More time to auction himself off. ex-montrosesaintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Showed amazing sense twiceThat must be a record for the "mini" mods ; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Mebbee he's in Georgia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Hang on......was Athens banned?It never gets mentioned. Edstar101 and blueheaven 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Hang on......was Athens banned?It never gets mentioned.All very hush hush, only people with reliable sources know anything about it. Kyle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 All very hush hush, only people with reliable sources know anything about it.I heard it was going to be a year long loan ban, but he was released by mutual consent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Wasn't he sent to Coventry as well? Kevin James Is On Stilts and Kyle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 All very hush hush, only people with reliable sources know anything about it.I heard it was a two year ban with the option for a third. Nobody knows yet though. Waiting for the Christmas edition of the PA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Saints Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Exactly. I think we're roughly on the same page, just coming to different conclusions! He was about to join us on loan and would have had the security of the permanent deal at Coventry. If he didn't think that the club he was happy to join could afford/wanted him, then he would never have agreed to terminate his contract when we would've brought him in on loan anyway. Indeed, it could be that Saints said they would offer him 2/3 years on those terms and he was willing to take the hit financially for longer term job security? Bearing in mind that Coventry will have paid up at least a percentage of his contract.He said that he would be 'assessing his options', but that's one throwaway sentence in the whole interview. He said he as keen to come back to Saints, he loved the area, his wife loved the area, he got on well with the players etc etc etc.I really don't see any need to panic. If he goes elsewhere, we move on. If he signs, then we know we're getting a guy who fits into the squad, is exciting to watch and that will score/create some goals for us.Playing the role of devil's advocate, what if Danny Swanson had almost agreed a loan deal with Saints before receiving a better offer (in the form of a potential permanent deal) from another Scottish club? Danny then decided to discuss this with Coventry, they allowed his contract to be terminated, and he is now free to sign for that club. In the meantime, he will 'stick to his word' by talking to Saints first. However, he knows very well that he will be going elsewhere. Just stoking the fire a little bit. The wild speculation has gone a bit quiet during the last hour or so. I'm keen that it lasts for at least a couple more days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Playing the role of devil's advocate, what if Danny Swanson had almost agreed a loan deal with Saints before receiving a better offer (in the form of a potential permanent deal) from another Scottish club? Danny then decided to discuss this with Coventry, they allowed his contract to be terminated, and he is now free to sign for that club. In the meantime, he will 'stick to his word' by talking to Saints first. However, he knows very well that he will be going elsewhere. Just stoking the fire a little bit. The wild speculation has gone a bit quiet during the last hour or so. I'm keen that it lasts for at least a couple more days.Something about how he comes across in interviews just makes him seem genuine. I'm not sure i think the same of Steve Brown. I could just be a very bad judge of character though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Playing the role of devil's advocate, what if Danny Swanson had almost agreed a loan deal with Saints before receiving a better offer (in the form of a potential permanent deal) from another Scottish club? Danny then decided to discuss this with Coventry, they allowed his contract to be terminated, and he is now free to sign for that club. In the meantime, he will 'stick to his word' by talking to Saints first. However, he knows very well that he will be going elsewhere. Just stoking the fire a little bit. The wild speculation has gone a bit quiet during the last hour or so. I'm keen that it lasts for at least a couple more days.That could well be the case. However, I'm not sure why he would then come out in the press talking up Saints, Perth, how much he liked being here etc if that was true.I think the biggest thing about Swanson is how open he is about his mental health and well being. I genuinely think he would sacrifice a bigger pay packet to give himself the best possible chance of remaining healthy.He came to Saints and he'll happily tell you it's be best he'd felt in a very long time. Considering his past mental health problems - and manager's totally disregarding him because of them - I think that really helps Saints in terms of any negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 I think he will come to McD for talks, dip all the tills, steal some cutlery then catch a bus to Tannadice saintscotty and Oldermoresensiblepack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristo Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 I'll say one thing, this guy had better be bloody good!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 I'll say one thing, this guy had better be bloody good!!!Did you not watch last season? We went from a team who would go whole games without making a single shootiing chance to a team worth watching because of his influence. Without him last season we'd probably have finished 7th or 8th at best.Even if he's half as good as he was last season he'll be an improvement to the squad.But i don't believe he'll be at Saints this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhq Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Actually all that you said in the above makes perfect sense. I cannot believe you are the same person who banned me.Let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byebyedundee Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Came to see SB yesterday confirmed Danny's coming We shook hands on it. LAUGH OUT LOUD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainstand Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Lots of Saints fans probably wouldn't feel so frustrated if it wasn't for 'confirmed 2 year deal' type posts from people who pretend to be in the know, who then sit back and enjoy the backlash.There were tweets stating that On monday afternoon prior to the announcement of him leaving Coventry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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