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11 minutes ago, RandomGuy said:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-mays-st-johnstone-move-18858587

Scott Burns article.

"The Perth side pulled out of a three year deal for the frontman last month because of last minute changes to the deal.

Scottish Cup winner May then went back and told St Johnstone that he would accept the initial deal without any of the adjustments.

Saints chairman Steve Brown then made a counter offer but on vastly reduced terms to what he first offered.

May has now turned the deal down"

You believe the daily record .i don’t 

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19 minutes ago, Johnny B said:

I will concede that the figures from my site were wrong Your figures do not support your statement "10 assists in 51 top flight games" Your site

https://www.transfermarkt.lt/stevie-may/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/111432/saison/2016/verein/0/liga/0/wettbewerb/SC1/pos/0/trainer_id/0

It states for top flight games:

St Johnstone 81 games 32 goals 10 assists

Aberdeen      75 games    8 goals 13 assists

Sheffield      42 games      7 goals 3 assists 

Preston        12 games     1 goal 1 assist

48 goals 27 assists 210 games or am looking at the wrong site

Neither your or my figures back up your statement "10 assists in 51 top flight games" Where did you get these figures from?

 

Sheffield and Preston aren't top flight teams, never mind Scottish teams, so can you please stop bringing them up?

I misread his Aberdeen stats as for some reason have pre and post split games in separate categories.

Either way, If we use the figures you've used above, hes involved in a goal at Aberdeen every 3.5 games, despite everyone claiming hes "shite" there. Thats means, in terms of projected figures, he'd be involved in 11 goals over a 38 game season. No player in our squad managed double figures in that regard last season.

For us and Aberdeen hes involved in a goal every 2.5 games.

Name me a striker we can sign for free who has that pedigree?

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1 hour ago, RandomGuy said:

We can get May. By all accounts he was willing to sign a 3 year contract on a wage we'd offered him, he'd be available on a free transfer.

For whatever reason the club are now refusing to offer him a contract they'd already offered him, and are preferring to try and sign a shite kid on loan.

Clueless what they're thinking.

Totaly agree. A pure kick in the balls to May and the fans tbh. Like May or not he would have given us something to smile about.. Even if its just his haircut. 

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28 minutes ago, essexsaint said:

..... Even though I have said that in my last comment I can't help thinking saints will pull out a suprise signing none of us were expecting. It's all very quiet at the moment. 

Tommy waiting for an agent to phone him with a signing. Appears to be the way we run our transfers these days.

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24 minutes ago, Cagey said:

To be fair that is the story I got last week.

Must be true then.

now I have to randomly admit rando man was nae bullshitting.oh dear .rando is the randomiser with his random digit  on the pulse sorry  yer randomness .

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36 minutes ago, SugarSpunSaintee said:

Seen reports linking us with Oli Shaw. Would you take?

 

Decent goalscoring record, think he would be a better option than what we have

Welcome SSS. 

Watched Oli Shaw in a development game against Saints at the Oriam sports complex when he netted a hatrick and thought this guy is going places.

We'll have to wait and see.

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25 minutes ago, RandomGuy said:

Not as first choice striker, no.

Do we need this as much as we need a striker? You may be a bit young to remember Jimmy Bone, Randoom.

Hamilton have brought in Jimmy Bone as a specialised striker coach to try to get more goals from a side who were the lowest scorers in the Scottish Premiership last season. (Daily Record, print edition)

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15 hours ago, RandomGuy said:

Yes, because the 3 years we've spent trying to get one of those will randomly be successful, two weeks from the end of a window...

In all fairness we've spent six years trying to sign a prolific goalscorer and it hasn't happened, but that doesn't stop us all clamouring for it to happen two weeks from the end of the current window (and probably two weeks from the end of the next, and the next, and the one after that). 

I think if we had one bloody good central midfielder who could play through balls on the ground for any of O'Halloran/Kennedy/Swanson/Wright/Kane/Hendry to run onto, we'd be a lot more effective in attack. But if we're not going to play like that and are going to resort to pumping the ball hopefully up the park... that brings me back to thinking we might as well give McMillan another shot (and I know he didn't get a game for Hamilton, but honestly, at the moment, I don't see why that matters). Ironically, I thought both of our goals against Livi came from playing some really nice passing football.

As for the May situation - if what's been reported is accurate (I'm not 100% buying into what the papers have said), then it makes Steve Brown looks like a really poor businessman. Yes, of course you negotiate, but if you're negotiation strategy means that neither party ends up with what they actually want, then it's a bit of a crap strategy.

 

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He may have some potential to be a decent player at this level but he's far from established. We really need someone with a bit of experience and is comfortable playing on their own at times,(most of the games probably). 

Whole thing just seems a bit like....."Get somebody! Anybody in!". 

Also, I'm really not keen on developing a player for a rival. 

Loans from teams round about you are tinpot.

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1 hour ago, Kilgour said:

Hibs only letting him go on loan to a club IF they sign a new striker and IF said club pay his full wages.Not holding my breath

Yeah,great deal. We wait to see if Hibs get in a new striker then we pay wages ,probably higher than we pay our own players to give another teams player game time. He is also unavailable for at least 3 games. Yeah, NO BRAINER.

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36 minutes ago, bankfoot saint said:

Looking like hopefully signing a striker this week hasn’t worked out....oh well hopefully we’ll get one in next week 

Must waiting & hoping Hibs make a signing before end of month.

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14 hours ago, RandomGuy said:

Sheffield and Preston aren't top flight teams, never mind Scottish teams, so can you please stop bringing them up?

I misread his Aberdeen stats as for some reason have pre and post split games in separate categories.

Either way, If we use the figures you've used above, hes involved in a goal at Aberdeen every 3.5 games, despite everyone claiming hes "shite" there. Thats means, in terms of projected figures, he'd be involved in 11 goals over a 38 game season. No player in our squad managed double figures in that regard last season.

For us and Aberdeen hes involved in a goal every 2.5 games.

Name me a striker we can sign for free who has that pedigree?

Ok here we go change the goal posts again. I have not looked who we could get for free but last season those that were involved around 11 goals last season 

Andrew Nelson Dundee 7 goals 4 assists in 21 games

Eamonn Brophey Killi 3 Goals 9 assists in 24 games

Oli Shaw Hibs 4 goals 6 assists in 23 games

May is no better than them according to your projected figures

Name me a striker we can sign for free who has that pedigree?  I believe we can get Oli Shaw on loan and using your criteria, his projected figures are better. I used your trusted transfer markt site for the figures

Edited by Johnny B

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57 minutes ago, Johnny B said:

Ok here we go change the goal posts again. I have not looked who we could get for free but last season those that were involved around 11 goals last season 

Andrew Nelson Dundee 7 goals 4 assists in 21 games

Eamonn Brophey Killi 3 Goals 9 assists in 24 games

Oli Shaw Hibs 4 goals 6 assists in 23 games

May is no better than them according to your projected figures

Name me a striker we can sign for free who has that pedigree?  I believe we can get Oli Shaw on loan and using your criteria, his projected figures are better. I used your trusted transfer markt site for the figures

YES BUT OLI SHAW WOULD BE A LOAN, POTENTIALLY FOR SIX MONTHS, WHILE MAY WOULD BE A THREE YEAR CONTRACT.

CAN YOU SEE WHY I HEAVILY PREFER MAY OVER SHAW YET?

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2 hours ago, Cagey said:

Must waiting & hoping Hibs make a signing before end of month.

Dear me, has it really come to this. :?

Will St Johnstone scouts be keeping Hibs info'd of any possible targets they come across that might interest them. :laugh:

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2 hours ago, RandomGuy said:

YES BUT OLI SHAW WOULD BE A LOAN, POTENTIALLY FOR SIX MONTHS, WHILE MAY WOULD BE A THREE YEAR CONTRACT.

CAN YOU SEE WHY I HEAVILY PREFER MAY OVER SHAW YET?

Have we unearthed Stevie May's latest agent/adviser?

Randoom seems to be pushing him harder than any of Stevies previous agents/advisers.

Maybe needing his cut of any fee to get a gardener in to do his grass or he could spend less times on forums and just do it himself.

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6 minutes ago, Templar Saint said:

Have we unearthed Stevie May's latest agent/adviser?

Randoom seems to be pushing him harder than any of Stevies previous agents/advisers.

Maybe needing his cut of any fee to get a gardener in to do his grass or he could spend less times on forums and just do it himself.

I cut my grass last night, m8.

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