Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Seems like we could do with something happening to attract the FCU type age group back to MCD Park. Do the FCU still exist? I think there was some sort of invitation to them to talk about coming back sometime after their section was shut in 2017 but don't know what happened if anything. Our away support continues to be vocal but we could do with a couple of hundred loons signing there heads off at home. What can be done to improve the atmosphere at home games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted January 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Aberdeen launched the red shed yesterday and had over 1500 take part in creating an away atmosphere at home. Aberdeen admitted they hadn't been listening to fans so are now trialling this at Cup games with the possibility of making it permanent at league games next season. Should saints try something similar? Born2Bru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 You still dont see the "coincidence" in the majority of the FCU vanishing the exact same season Rangers win promotion to the top flight? fazman1977 and Shaggy Jenkins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: You still dont see the "coincidence" in the majority of the FCU vanishing the exact same season Rangers win promotion to the top flight? Bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted January 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 41 minutes ago, RandomGuy said: You still dont see the "coincidence" in the majority of the FCU vanishing the exact same season Rangers win promotion to the top flight? We had our season ticket seats in the red section not far from the FCU. Some of those guys had been going to saints games for years I am sure the majority of the FCU would have been saints fan's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, Ginger Bakers rebel army said: We had our season ticket seats in the red section not far from the FCU. Some of those guys had been going to saints games for years I am sure the majority of the FCU would have been saints fan's. I dont doubt some of them are/were Saints fans. I do doubt that majority weren't just kids who couldnt support a lower tier side who hid behind Saints until Rangers made it to the top flight. fazman1977 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 It's an absolute fact that the majority of the young ones were Sevco fans. They were also starting to cause unnecessary trouble. Particularly the away games. Not a miss IMO. sleepless, fazman1977 and Kyle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixties saintee Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, rik2304 said: It's an absolute fact that the majority of the young ones were Sevco fans. They were also starting to cause unnecessary trouble. Particularly the away games. Not a miss IMO. Just as well it's not the Sixties then, Saints singing section and trouble during and after the game, and at away games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, sixties saintee said: Just as well it's not the Sixties then, Saints singing section and trouble during and after the game, and at away games. Times have changed. Thankfully. fazman1977, Kyle and blueheaven 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mc Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 4 hours ago, RandomGuy said: You still dont see the "coincidence" in the majority of the FCU vanishing the exact same season Rangers win promotion to the top flight? I know a lot of them, and they were Perth guys all together, loyal to each other, that’s what mattered, you won’t understand that, as you’ve no pals , hth SugarSpunSaintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat McGroin Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 3 hours ago, RandomGuy said: I dont doubt some of them are/were Saints fans. I do doubt that majority weren't just kids who couldnt support a lower tier side who hid behind Saints until Rangers made it to the top flight. I was a Rangers fan as a kid. All my family were CB’s. Do you know what made me switch allegiances? Actually going to games regularly aged 7-8 with my Grandad. There’s no reason that most of these boys couldn’t have switched allegiances if they hadn’t been hounded out of the club. Nelly78, Cleveland-Saint, Ginger Bakers rebel army and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted January 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 It's not just the FCU that worries me, I am concerned that there's a lack of fans of a similar age to the FCU guys at MCD. I'm sure the power of communication on social media will have something to do with this. Saints need to come up with initiatives to attract fans of all age groups. SugarSpunSaintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.B.B:- Adz Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Blue and white away day at Somerset Park?? Make it happen Ginger Baker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted January 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 59 minutes ago, dave mc said: I know a lot of them, and they were Perth guys all together, loyal to each other, that’s what mattered, you won’t understand that, as you’ve no pals , hth Any chance of them coming back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 59 minutes ago, dave mc said: I know a lot of them, and they were Perth guys all together, loyal to each other, that’s what mattered, you won’t understand that, as you’ve no pals , hth Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saints Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 I think McDiarmid in general can be soulless at the best of times... a ‘young’ band would be good to generate some atmosphere... if young folk can’t be encouraged to come along our club is doomed... You see it with golf clubs, no junior sections, so no youth coming through to replace the older members when they leave.. you can witness the same thing happening at our club, unfortunately a fan lost is normally lost forever... maybe new CEO will have the answer? Hope so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havana Saint Posted January 19, 2020 Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 Aye....FAIR CITY UNITY are a massive miss. The handling of situations by club did appear rather dictatorial on the face of it. Very much doubt they were Sevconians tbh. Club does a lot in primary schools at the moment to try and recruit , but not sure how much is done to connect with youth at the High, Grammar, Academy and St John's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Basically this is about selling a product to children. Marketing types long ago realised that it’s very often not the children who make the decision to buy, because they don’t have any money. What you actually have to do, at least in part, is sell the product to their parents who buy the product for them, or give them the money. So you will routinely see, for example, children’s snacks being marketed on price or health benefits or not filling them between meals, which children don’t actually give a stuff about. How does this translate to football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger Bakers rebel army Posted January 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Abernethy Saint said: Basically this is about selling a product to children. Marketing types long ago realised that it’s very often not the children who make the decision to buy, because they don’t have any money. What you actually have to do, at least in part, is sell the product to their parents who buy the product for them, or give them the money. So you will routinely see, for example, children’s snacks being marketed on price or health benefits or not filling them between meals, which children don’t actually give a stuff about. How does this translate to football? I would shut the family stand for a start off, go back to the old way, access free for kids being lifted over with a full paying adult. The kids will feel much more part of things in the east or mainstands and more likely to want to come back. Setting Son 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Havana Saint said: Aye....FAIR CITY UNITY are a massive miss. The handling of situations by club did appear rather dictatorial on the face of it. Very much doubt they were Sevconians tbh. Remind me what it was the club did? 20 hours ago, Ginger Bakers rebel army said: ...sometime after their section was shut... FCU should be in charge of the media at the club as the sure pulled the wool over the eyes of Saints fans! Edited January 20, 2020 by garydavidson sleepless, cristo, blueheaven and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueheaven Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 21 hours ago, Ginger Bakers rebel army said: We had our season ticket seats in the red section not far from the FCU. Some of those guys had been going to saints games for years I am sure the majority of the FCU would have been saints fan's. So why did they stop? Genuine question. I see a lot of hints on here from time to time about why they disappeared, but no one ever seems to just come out and explain it. From the outside looking in, all it looks like is the bizarre canonisation of a bunch of kids who can't be arsed to support their team any more. I agree that the atmosphere at McDiarmid is terrible, but that seems to be something that is Scotland-wide. Whenever I've been to any games abroad, fans sing and chant and bring colourful displays to add to the atmosphere. In Scotland, everyone pretty much sits silently on their hands (me included, of course). I remember a few years ago watching Saints play in front of a massive Hearts crowd at Murrayfield, but there was pin-drop silence to the point that you could hear everything the players were shouting to each other for the whole match. I'm not sure why it's like that in Scotland - is it lack of alcohol? Kyle, Nold and sleepless 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linky Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, blueheaven said: So why did they stop? Genuine question. I see a lot of hints on here from time to time about why they disappeared, but no one ever seems to just come out and explain it. From the outside looking in, all it looks like is the bizarre canonisation of a bunch of kids who can't be arsed to support their team any more. I agree that the atmosphere at McDiarmid is terrible, but that seems to be something that is Scotland-wide. Whenever I've been to any games abroad, fans sing and chant and bring colourful displays to add to the atmosphere. In Scotland, everyone pretty much sits silently on their hands (me included, of course). I remember a few years ago watching Saints play in front of a massive Hearts crowd at Murrayfield, but there was pin-drop silence to the point that you could hear everything the players were shouting to each other for the whole match. I'm not sure why it's like that in Scotland - is it lack of alcohol? The only experience I have of football abroad is Brazil and Spain. In both those countries fans seems to spend most of the time talking to each other and enjoying the sunshine. They only look towards the pitch if a goal is about to be scored. The place is noisy, but only because everyone is chatting about things nothing to do with the match. That said, it seemed like everyone brought the whole family along (this was at the Nou Camp & Maracana, might be different elsewhere). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, blueheaven said: So why did they stop? Genuine question. I see a lot of hints on here from time to time about why they disappeared, but no one ever seems to just come out and explain it. From the outside looking in, all it looks like is the bizarre canonisation of a bunch of kids who can't be arsed to support their team any more. I agree that the atmosphere at McDiarmid is terrible, but that seems to be something that is Scotland-wide. Whenever I've been to any games abroad, fans sing and chant and bring colourful displays to add to the atmosphere. In Scotland, everyone pretty much sits silently on their hands (me included, of course). I remember a few years ago watching Saints play in front of a massive Hearts crowd at Murrayfield, but there was pin-drop silence to the point that you could hear everything the players were shouting to each other for the whole match. I'm not sure why it's like that in Scotland - is it lack of alcohol? It’s a combination of enforced sitting down, and being feckin freezing I think. Moving an inch means you lose the thin layer of warm air under one of your coats. More importantly, huge, huge kudos to you for using the word “canonisation” on a footy forum - and getting away with it. Almost. blueheaven and fazman1977 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy rhodes fancy watch Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Some of the FCU were advised to stay away by the police, they had been a bit naughty and were known to the police, on the other hand they were also getting unjustly harassed at some away games, I've seen 15 police containing 8 FCU members. Nanny state in full effect. SugarSpunSaintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slf Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 10 hours ago, garydavidson said: Remind me what it was the club did? FCU should be in charge of the media at the club as the sure pulled the wool over the eyes of Saints fans! You know everything do you ? Privy too everything are you ? why so negative, are you jealous ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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