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  1. Agree with most of what has been written so far, much improved performance last night. With special mentions to Robinson, DJ, Sprangler and Benji who I thought were all excellent. But definitely worth mentioning the performance of Liam Gordon, I thought he was absolutely tremendous, defensively solid and also seemed to spend the night urging the players forward at every opportunity, he even stepped out from defence and played one or two decent forward passes. He's been the subject of a lot of stick this season (some merited, some way over the top) so only fair to acknowledge when he performs well.
    10 points
  2. Totally unfair. Why not just enjoy the win and not slag of individual players.
    8 points
  3. Horrible game to watch, however playing so badly and get a point, will do. Just a word on todays opponents- I hope they get relegated and never darken our door again, anti football , time wasting and falling about 'injured', an absolute disgrace.
    7 points
  4. Same again is probably best? Mitts Kelts - Gowser - Gordy - Robbo Matty - The Sprangler - Dan the man - DJ Clarky - Kimpy
    7 points
  5. The defence offers exhibit A: Very important header won
    6 points
  6. Oh you ****in beauty!!! Kimpi you gangly, beautiful B'stard greyhound!!!
    6 points
  7. Kyle

    Time for Levein to go

    This for me is where pretty much all of our problems stem from and it's seeped into the players and the club. I think Maclean tried to shift that in his brief spell in charge (but wasn't a good manager) and Levein has given it steroids. I backed Levein's appointment as felt we needed a steadying hand and a fresh start. Being honest I feel like I'm watching Callum Davidson's team during the 10 game losing run all over again so whilst I think it was probably the right type of appointment in terms of experience, it's probably not the right individual. If the club don't want to see a massive drop in season ticket sales then I think they'll have to get rid of Levein. People are disgruntled enough with VAR, awful football since the double (and even the season we won the double we only scored 9 home goals) and other factors, I think the football on display currently and the prospect of another year of that will be the final straw for a lot of people.
    6 points
  8. Sorry Aitch, I thought Kimp was too close to gimp so I stuck on the y. Benji it is to keep harmony in the squad.
    5 points
  9. I couldn’t care less about the game, I just want you to stop calling Kimpioka “Kimpy”. Benji is fine. Kimpy is horrific.
    5 points
  10. I sincerely hope Livingston do eventually go down,what a horrible shower,never seen so many 6 foot pluss men feigning injury just to break the flow of the game,they were so thick they carried on doing it at one all,did they not realise a draw was no good for them or is it so intrenched in their psyche that’s just what they do.
    4 points
  11. I know theres been a lot of talk about the guys mentality being the difference but for me the difference between Saturdays performace and last night is soley to do with the system. We had less players on our 18 yard box and for the first time this season had attack minded players high and wide. This gave us so many more passing options going forward and resulted in much less backward passing due to no passing lanes. The mentality difference comes from players now being able to play positively rather than negatively which clearly instilled confidence as the game grew last night. As much as I think the torrid football we have watched lately lies directly with Levein and Kirk, its worth crediting them for changing from "their system". Its something that Davidson so stubbornly rarely did, and on the odd occasion he did it almost felt like he didnt want another system to work in case it proved the fans right. Tin foil hat stuff I know. I guess we have to wait and see what the line up is for Saturday, but if we revert back to the old system my fears will have been answered. Please no more 5 at the back and narrow systems, I'm begging you.
    4 points
  12. BBC was raving about his shot stopping, you sound very harsh on him. Are you the David Marshall fan? 😂
    4 points
  13. Was that the longest league league game in Saints history? The irony is that Livingston's time wasting was probably what killed them. Had they changed their approach and had a bit more faith in themselves they probably would have won that. Given how bad things looked at this time last week, I think you have to say four points from these last two games is a pretty good outcome and has given us back a tiny bit of breathing space in comparison to how things could have been. My feeling is we took Aberdeen by surprise by hitting them with two up front and particularly Kimpioka's pace. But yesterday Clark was essentially playing as a midfielder for most of the game which meant Kimpioka was playing on his own against three big defenders who were ready for him and he just didn't really stand a chance. Having two strikers on the pitch is a step forward but we need to be brave enough to actually use them as strikers or it becomes a bit pointless. Sidibeh and May both looked lively when they came on and I like our striking options at the moment but I'm not sure the best way to use them has quite clicked together yet. And when DJ had to go off it seemed to kill off our gameplan a bit. Just a general thought, but surely something has to be done about the amount of players now going down holding their heads to get games stopped? I think if players with head "injuries" had to go off the pitch for five minutes to have these injuries monitored/treated you'd very quickly see a big reduction in the number of players claiming to have had head knocks.
    3 points
  14. As you know, I think he brings a real solidity to our back line. Quick, mobile, careful in possession and wins every battle. Never will you see that man getting turned easily, muscled off the ball or out jumped in the air… Said someone in 2015! He galumphed on. Kicked a couple of Livi players. Kicked a couple of our own players. Pondered, hoofed the ball out the pitch. Stumbled and wobbled about for a while. The full time whistle went, and he hobbled off. Good day at the office for the young man.
    3 points
  15. Bit of a turnaround in last few minutes. Saints equalise and St Mirren score two to beat Aberdeen. With County losing too not such a bad day for Saints as it might have been. Well winning not so good but at least it was against an arse cheek.
    3 points
  16. That was a great and assured performance. From the start the players were fighting for every first and second balls. Constantly getting back in to position and breaking up the play - really hard working shift from everyone. It was obvious that there had been a discussion about this work ethic. Sprangler was steady, doing the simple work in the trenches and I hope he starts more often, ( he did take a knock late in the first half ), McGown is such a good leader at the back and I thought Gordon had a strong game too. Robinson looked more confident when going forward and Dan Philips - even doing his usual shift was clearly blowing out his ass near the end but was determined to see out the win, back tracking to hassle the Dons players. Shinnie was peed off that Dan and Sprang gave as good as they got. JD looked really classy and was loving his role out wide and Kimpy has pace to burn and what a great goal. For those not there or able to see it the most pleasing thing about the win for me was the players reaction at the end! Embracing and fist pumping! Even Levein was being hugged by all the players and this confirmed to me that this is team very much on board and believing they can win games and repeat this performance. Special mention to Steve May who I thought was jsut marking time - he was up celebrating the goals from the bench and came on and showed he can still do it if he's called on. Well done Craig Levein and all the team.
    3 points
  17. Big improvement. I think you could really see how using fewer defenders meant we were less crowded along our own 18-yard line and we were actually able to move the ball forwards, especially with Kimpioka's running up top. That starting XI was only one player different from the one I suggested I wanted us to go with at the start of this thread, although the formation was different. I'm not convinced Matt Smith is suited to playing wide right but can see why there would have been a desire to fit him in somehow. Think Sprangler's ability to put in a tackle and play a simple pass makes such a big difference to our overall play. We're better at holding onto possession when he's on the pitch, which frees up our other midfielders to play their game and get forward, and our defence stay protected without needing an extra man in there. Surely he has to keep his place for the foreseeable? Shout out for DJ who I felt had probably his best game for us and was linking up really well with Kimpioka. I've been really unconvinced by him so far but I think you could really see he was in a more comfortable role last night and should never, ever have been used as a lone striker. I do think our evening was helped quite a lot by Aberdeen being awful and having their home fans on their backs every time they took a second touch of the ball - but you take what you can get. I think it's really important that Levein keeps the same starting XI for the Livingston game, to send the message that if you play well and win you're rewarded with keeping your place. Please, please, please no more needless tweaking of the team. Give these players a chance.
    3 points
  18. I respect the right of every proper football to bellow such sentiments at least 4 time per season! 🤣
    3 points
  19. Great win and the celebrations between the players and the manager told me this team are all in it together Very happy!
    3 points
  20. I know it's stating the obvious but these next two game are absolutely gigantic for us now. If we lose tonight and then go a goal down against Livingston, I can see there being some serious unrest in the stands at that game. It'll put us deep in a slump while Livingston and Ross County are in the ascendancy. If that happens I really struggle to see Levein and Kirk being able to turn it round and get the fans back onside. They seriously need to go for it tonight and demonstrate they're willing and able to come up with a different, more effective plan. If it's still a defensive plan then so be it but it absolutely needs to be something that can actually start getting us results.
    3 points
  21. blueheaven

    New Owners

    I'm narrowing it down to a straight race between Rudy Giuliani and John Grisham.
    3 points
  22. Aitchy

    Time for Levein to go

    The rot set in when Davidson and Brown started coming out with stuff about us “just being happy to be in the league” and “avoiding relegation would be a bigger achievement than winning two cups”. An organisations mindset is set by those at the top. Coyle, McInnes, Lomas and Wright were always looking for us to be more ambitious and push us on to the next level.
    3 points
  23. That was a truly brutal watch. I knew after five minutes that we were going to be lucky to get anything out of the game. The ref's are going to have to realise that fans have actually payed to get in to watch the game and this type of time wasting tactics is driving fans away. If anyone had the misfortune of bringing along a friend on Saturay I suspect that friend won't be rushing back anytime soon. I think any team would have struggled against Livi on Saturday - they set out their stall early and had done their homework; Kimiopka was closed out early and never got away from their giant centre backs. I would say that we were very poor and never managed to exert any control on the game; we just didn't seem to have the nous to affect the negative tactics of Livi. The pitch doesn't help and needs dug up and buried - it's a disgrace and doesn't lend itself to playing football. If we had any serious VAR intervention our game would have finsihed at 5.30pm! Disgrace. I came away feeling like it was good result given the circumstances. Their were few encoutraging performances - Kelts had a tidy assured game and DJ looked good before his departure, Nicky Clark reminds us he can score goals and McGowan is still for me the key player in defence.
    2 points
  24. Feels like a big point given how poor we were.
    2 points
  25. @R.B.B:- AdzI’m here for your thoughts on Considine’s performance today. Ooft.
    2 points
  26. Made heavy weather of it against a bunch of cheating time wasters and an incompetent ref. Probably didn't deserve 3 points but didn't deserve to lose either. Giod goal from Nicky as well.
    2 points
  27. Quite simple isn’t it. Win, we stay up, lose, we could go down… The only potential cause of complications is the team selection of Craig Levein. Unfortunately I just don’t see a world where he drops Considine, Carey and Max for 2 games on the bounce. I hope I’m wrong.
    2 points
  28. The boos after our second goal and at the final whistle was priceless.
    2 points
  29. 3 points that feel like 10! What a great result.
    2 points
  30. Really good performance. DJ was excellent on the left wing, Benji great up front and the midfield trio never gave up. Couple of nervy moments but more than happy with the performance, attitude and hunger shown on the park.
    2 points
  31. I haven’t said he did anything “deliberately”, he clearly likes Sidibeh, why would he try to hurt the lad. Doesn’t change the fact that he’s brand new to full time football, it was obvious he was tired, the management made the decision to leave him on when we had 3 substitutes still we could have still used. I m not suggesting any deliberate intent, I think it was a poor decision and it played a part in the player collapsing. Your correct though, that is speculation on my part, there could be any number of other reasons why it happened.
    2 points
  32. Aitchy

    New Owners

    Im going with this guy! https://www.forbes.com/sites/danieleproch/2021/11/10/american-lawyer-joe-tacopina-discusses-investing-in-italian-soccer-and-takeover-of-serie-bs-spal/
    2 points
  33. I am aware of the names and having done some reading up on them all sounds pretty positive if it happens to go through, which it looks like it will.
    2 points
  34. As others have said, we need to start taking the game to teams, especially Aberdeen. Despite having a relatively decent squad, they're massively underperforming. They also rely heavily on their one, real quality player. If we get about them, with the speed we have up front, it could unnerve them, and then that should spread quite quickly to the fans. It won't take long before they get on top of them because they’ll be expecting to give us a hiding. As for the set up, Levein will probably give Aberdeen too much respect, so I can't imagine two up front. The actual team will more than likely be a back three or five, but I’m trying to get into Levein’s head and I'm going to go for a 4-5-1. This formation should get most of our best players on the pitch at the same time. Therefore, I'd go with… Mitov Keltjens McGowan Gordon Robinson/Gallacher Jaiyesimi Smith Sprangler Phillips Carey Kimpioka I'd drop Considine for this one. He looked slow and tired on Saturday, and three games in a week might be pushing it if he's to be involved against Livi. That's a game I think he'd be more suited to. He also seems to always have a nightmare against his old team, so give him a rest both physically and mentally for this one. McGowan if he's fit, K. Smith if he's not, alongside Gordon. Left back, much of a muchness between the two. Rock, paper, scissors to decide which one starts. DJ on the right wing because that's where he should be, same with Carey on the other side. Sprangler sitting deep and doing a job on Miovski to hopefully keep him quiet. Phillips hopefully back to himself and doing his box to box thing. M. Smith playing further up and linking play to Kimpioka. Matty has also proved he can not only make a telling pass but he also took his goal well at Dens so I think he’d do well in a more attacking role. Kimpioka for his speed and strength up top. I presume Sidibeh will be getting a rest for this one and at most, be on the bench. Using him on the wing has been touted by a few and that's an interesting option. I think he's still raw enough to be moulded into whatever position we needed to be honest. But as I've said, he should be sitting most, if not all of this one out. May always seems to do well against his old sides. He's scored for us a couple of times against Aberdeen, and for them against us, so I'd consider him to take a part in proceedings at some point. Maybe replacing Benji after about the hour mark and perhaps if we need a goal, as if. We could maybe change shape and he could be partnered with Clark up front. Scenes! I also like the other suggestions of a 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3. We certainly need to do something different, because what we’re currently doing isn’t working. We’ll hopefully get a reaction from the players after Paisley, and take some sort of result and momentum into another very big game at the weekend.
    2 points
  35. Where did i compare him to any of the other CBs? Ypu really need to calm down about how much you seem to hate some of the squad, for your own good as much as anything. Its not a good place to be mentally.
    2 points
  36. Cagey

    VAR V St.Johnstone

    Clark claimed for a hand ball and it only took them seconds for bad to dismiss it. two sportscene pundits said it should have been a pen. Saints may not have gone on to win but it adds to the points that would have made us save and maybe propelled us to top 6. The amount of wrong VAR decisions at the weekend was just ridiculous . VAR is not the problem though it is the VAR referees. it was meant to stop clear and obvious mistakes. It is not , it is being re refersee by guys in a studio with 4 monitors and at least 2 so called referees watching multiple angles and slow mo. referees usual go with VAR ref as they are usually senior to the guys on the pitch. Collum is the only ref to go against VAR. but then Willie is never wrong .
    1 point
  37. May's never been the kind of striker who's going to win headers. If you watch the YouTube video of all the goals he scored in his peak season 2013/14, I think only one of them was a header and only one of them came from a cross. We need to play to our strikers' strengths and that's never going to involve pumping high balls up to May, especially against a team like Livingston. I'm pretty pleased with the fact that we have a few different kinds of strikers at the moment and think they're all going to have an important part to play between now and the end of the season. I'd still say May is the best all-round footballer out of the four of them and for me he's the one who's most suited to playing a bit deeper. Clark is the best out-and-out goalscorer and has to be first choice, and needs to be getting into the penalty box. Kimpioka looks brilliant at running on to through balls and seems to be a really good finisher in those situations, if we can exploit that. Sidibeh seems to want to do a bit of everything and is fast, hard working and likes to try having a shot from all angles. These are the best options we've had for quite some time but they all need different types of service so we need to make sure we're giving them that.
    1 point
  38. Thanks for the smart opening line👍🏻. Groundbreaking stuff. If we want to launch balls at May’s head then yeah he is not the man for the job. If we want to play football the right way then he could be used very effectively. Kimpioka is vastly over rated on here and is like Bambi on ice most of the time. Very very raw. May had interest from teams higher up the league than us in Jan but chose to stay so fair play to him.
    1 point
  39. Great guy fir us signed fae Dunfermline
    1 point
  40. That’s allowed, chief. Braw.
    1 point
  41. tucker

    Time for Levein to go

    From what I've heard leven wanted to play a back four but the defenders preferred a 5 but he gave them a chance hasn't worked so hopefully he'll stick with the 4
    1 point
  42. I watched the highlights of the Livi game and they are still a dangerous outfit. They are a big side and you can bet this is going to be a battle tomorrow. Our defence needs to be really switched on. If your Livi you've got to think that they will see this as a last chance to make a stand; there might not be a way back for them if they lose. Levein is right about "you have to win the battle first". If we can continue on from Wednesday and get an early goal it will settle the nerves.
    1 point
  43. I was the same tbh, every time id seen him he looked soft and unsure. See how he gets on v Livingston but maybe we're now just seeing him starting to settle now? Next few weeks should tell us what he is, as he'll both have confidence and should get a run in the team.
    1 point
  44. Benji's pace reminded me of the great Jim Kerray back in the 1960's. Not many on here will remember him!
    1 point
  45. SaintJet

    Players out on loan

    Haven't heard from Abernethy for ages either?
    1 point