SaintSam1884

One of your better efforts!

He has a point RG!

And he's only here for the same length of time as Darnell? So the "he's our player" argument holds little weight.

Commenting on a players form on a football forum is one thing, ironically cheering him off during a match is another.

You make a good point, his passing is actually very good and he does always look to pass into feet. It came off more often than not on Friday night too so the guys are obviously getting used to it as you say. He definitely needs to improve defensively although he did put in an excellent tackle on Friday that got the crowd going a bit.

Hoi you! I didn't miss them

Was the first winless streak last season not a 5 match losing run? What stage of the season did the second run occur?

I touched on it earlier with the ironic cheering of Spoony when he went off and the booing of Allan Mannus at a goal kick. You've made a fair point comparing it to Dumfries last year, that's exactly what it was like. Not often I look at a group of Saints fans and wish they'd f'ck off home. Everyone was disappointed and thought it was obscenely poor from the team and management but not everyone felt the need to act like that. I felt totally ripped off last night but don't feel the need to single out guys like David Wotherspoon on social media suggesting he's not fit to wear the jersey and he's stealing a wage. None of that helps.

Do you see the positive signs in his post? I thought the post was a joke and it made me laugh.

Get with the times... Allan Mannus and David Wotherspoon are the boo boys choice of who's to blame for everything.

I said in an earlier post that Scobbie is a better defender than Easton but Easton is much better at getting forward and doesn't give away possession on his way like Scobbie was doing last night. I prefer Scobbie at centre half and see him as just an option at left back, not a starter. I think the midfield on Saturday should be: Thomson Millar Davidson Swanson I would even make an argument for going 5 across the middle with Craig playing wide left and Swanson doing whatever the hell he likes. In this case I would probably go with Cummins up front.

Swanson and Thomson are on the wrong sides but a team like that would've given us more pace which was the biggest problem last night. So slow.

Woohoo! I've found someone more pessimistic than me this morning.

Spoony's body language was dreadful from the word go. He looked like he had the worst bout of flu imaginable and was being asked to play a game of football on a freezing cold, soaking wet night in February to boot. Who knows why his game suffers so badly as times but it's the managers responsibility to not hang him out to dry like that when he's so off form. We have seen in the past - whether we agree with it or not - a couple of games on the bench and he inevitably comes on and changes a game and is back to his best. Thomson should've started last night. Failing that he should've replaced Wotherspoon, not Craig. The most ironic thing about last night is that we got worse after Spoony went off. Which probably says more about TW than Spoony. The substitution was shocking.

I'm as annoyed as anyone about last night but the ironic cheers as mentioned above from a section of the crowd when Wotherspoon went off and a chorus of boos as Mannus took a poor goal kick from the same section of the crowd were embarrassing. How does that help anything? So now Spoony knows the fans think he's shite and so does Allan Mannus. Booing collectively at half time and full time is one thing but singling out players who couldn't fail to already know how bad they're playing is not right.

If we lose the next two games, I believe we will eventually end up in the play offs and Hibs will beat us. We are staring relegation in the face. It doesn't matter what happened in September and October although I'm still struggling to believe how far we've fallen as it's essentially the same side. I've remained positive throughout the last few weeks but I contemplated leaving after 65 minutes last night as it was obvious nothing was going to change. Very, very poor management from TW, all we got was like for like changes. Actually thought his decision to bring on Craig instead of Thomson was embarrassing as it meant moving Swanson to the right and ultimately annulling our only viable creative option. Slow, unfit, poor decision making, disinterested, bad attitude. It's rife throughout the side. The two full backs got on the ball in good positions to get forward and there was NOBODY in front of them. We had no out ball time after time so we passed it sideways and Dundee robbed us. Every. Single. Time. Tam is a better defender than Easton but Easton gives us more going forward. Fisher was excellent in attack last night but skied two shots, turned onto his left foot for some bizarre reason more than once and other times shat it and turned back instead of crossing. There is no fight in this team. Absolutely no fight. We won't pick up another point playing like that. I don't even have the will to talk about the rest of the team. For once the defence wasn't even bad. That tells you all you need to know.

BBC weather says rain from 4pm onwards. It looked like the snow was further north on TV too.

I did raise my eyebrows slightly at the comments which were obviously aimed at Neilson. I agree with Gas Monkey that the leave table probably suggests a different story but my interpretation of what Danny meant was that Neilson likes a physical "stifle the opposition" first style of tactic then build an attack from that. They've got enough quality in attack to make it work and it's a good combination to have. I think Hearts have obviously got a very good squad of players but in the majority it's full of physicality and they overpower teams, it's their style (a bit like Aberdeen, although Aberdeen have much better attacking players). Ultimately Danny was probably being asked to do the kind of physical work that just isn't his forte. He knows that we have other guys who will be the work horses and we will look to him for the creativity. Although I appreciated his comment where he said he doesn't shy away from doing his fair share of the work. I thought it was a great interview and really inspired a level of positivity that has been a bit lacking of late. It was nice to hear a player talking about looking up rather than down, which is where the majority of fans seem to have focused their gaze of late. The parts about his wife doing his head in to come back, his friendship with Murray Davidson and the annoying Chris Millar were funny and heartwarming. He came across well and as you say it wasn't full of the usual bullshit patter you normally get from these interviews. He seems like a character and we need those in a small squad.

What did he say? apart from "I would like to play with Scobbie again". Ha!

Just to update you folks... Thanks to the article from the daily mail, my friend has been able to track Ron down and has made contact. Thanks for the help! The power of the internet

That's the spirit!

Bit more enthusiasm please!

Do I want to know how you found that out? Thanks for the replies guys, much more information than I thought I would get! Here's hoping we can help reunite old friends.

It's on TV and it's a Friday night - both of those things kill attendance figures. I'm going to go but it would be much easier for me not to considering I work near Stirling so have to get home to Perth through rush hour traffic then travel to Dundee. If the game was virtually anywhere else I would be forced to miss it. I'm sure lots of folk will be forced to miss it rather than just choosing to sit and watch it on TV instead.

Bit of an unusual one this... A customer at work who knows I'm a Saints fan is looking to track down a former player of ours called Ron McKinven. They were good friends a number of years ago but lost touch with each other when Ron moved to Saudi Arabia. However, this gentleman has heard that he may have moved back to Scotland be living in the Edinburgh area. He is keen to trace him and get in touch. He has tried other means of tracking him down without success. I am also going to email the club on his behalf to see if they know anything. I appreciate it's a bit of a long shot but you never know. According to Wikipedia, he played for us from 1959 to 1966 and made over 200 appearances. I wonder how many of us will be old enough to remember him? Thanks in advance.