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Actually my reservations on the team. Not sure we have signed a team better than last year

Last season there was a fans volunteering day, helping with stuff around the ground (Painting, weeding, sweeping crap away etc).....and FOLK COMPLAINED!!!!!!! Maybe we start a WAP Volunteer Day - Stadium & Seats

Absolutely no pleasing some folk

Definitely not writing us off, just that this is a new club, a new team, a new era and anything above third bottom is a success right now. But who knows? Football is a beautiful game and an ugly business – anything can happen!!!

Or down a few leagues if you think Portsmouth are a championship team. We'll find out after 10 games where we are in the league. The feeling I have is that we – as a team and backroom – are a bit rookie. That might be a good thing....

Many clubs are warehousing the good keepers, and the model these days IS that smaller clubs, like us, take them on loan. It's a good arrangement for all parties.

Oh! Dam..... I was taken in my the page date, which was updated a couple of days back - apologies for the error ..... Tumilty unattached.

Bargain - was on the market for £375k - if the purchaser paid more than £330k I'd be surprised. It's 700 square metres, so even at £350k that's only £500 per square metre. Flats in Glasgow can be as much as £8000 per square metre for a two bedroom. https://www.shepherd.co.uk/property/offices-2-tay-street-tay-street-77-george-street-perth-perthshire/ This has photos: Note: PDF files https://cdn.novaloca.com/docs/598_6497_a077f13a-17f7-4c37-ab7d-130fe58b4fe7.pdf

Ask the club. The answer will probably be: 'Yes, you can, subject to availability, and you will have far less choice of seats of left till the last minute.' Ticketing Terms and conditions 1. Match tickets are issued by, and shall remain the property of St Johnstone Football Club. https://www.perthstjohnstonefc.co.uk/ticket-office/ticket-terms-and-conditions/

Don't think they do this, because I've never seen them asking for returns or seat donations. But they could. And the OF matches would be the perfect time – or, of course, some would rather undermine the club (bizarrely).

You are right that a club can't simply say, "X supporter didn't show up, so let's claim the VAT back". HRMC won't have that. So agreed, what you have posted above is correct: What the club could do is simply ask those not attending to gift their seat back to the club, and then the club can claim the VAT. A simple email from a fan, or a form filled in online would do it. So, if anyone wants to explore it further, how it works is this: season-ticket holders who could not attend get asked to return/donate their match ticket or seat entitlement to the club. Saints could then treat the pro-rata value of that match as a donation rather than gate/ticket income, which means the club could reclaim or avoid accounting for VAT on that element. The club could also try to resell the seat. Or you can encourage people to piss and moan, boycott and criticise the club...and harp on and on, entitled as ever.

The club can claim back the pro-rata part of the season ticket. Just as an airline doesn't need to pay the passenger taxes and duty IF the person doesn't show up. The airline ticket is slightly different in that you as the customer could claim the duty back if you didn't fly. Different situation with the VAT on season tickets. But, the big caveat: a fan needs to tell the club they are not coming and "donate" the ticket back to them (possibly to the Community Trust *can't remember the exact manoeuvre, but it is doable).

You actually hate St Johnstone at this point. Encouraging people to undermine tge club. When season ticket hokders dont turn up, the club can claim back the VAT on those unused "tickets"

Any score?

A lot of transfer talk on this podcast via BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/st-johnstone?post=cjdg8d7mxzgo#post