rickardo Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Haha not so much arguin as shakin my heid at him , some folk just don't get the sense of occasion. babychunder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Paul Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Neither of the remaining proposals will benefit the city. An indoor market is not going to be a success, as shopping habits have changed with more on-line shopping meaning that established high street shops are struggling, let alone a brand new indoor market. Perth has plenty of hotels, and with the new Premier Inn just opened next to the concert hall, I can not see that we need yet another hotel. Once again, PKC have shown that they are not up to the task of representing the peoples view in this city and have wasted so much time and money on a couple of proposals. We will be back debating the future of the city hall building in a couple of years time, once whichever of these ventures gets the go ahead have failed. rickardo and Smarmy Arab 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Col Kojak Slaphead III Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Neither of the remaining proposals will benefit the city. An indoor market is not going to be a success, as shopping habits have changed with more on-line shopping meaning that established high street shops are struggling, let alone a brand new indoor market. Perth has plenty of hotels, and with the new Premier Inn just opened next to the concert hall, I can not see that we need yet another hotel. Once again, PKC have shown that they are not up to the task of representing the peoples view in this city and have wasted so much time and money on a couple of proposals. We will be back debating the future of the city hall building in a couple of years time, once whichever of these ventures gets the go ahead have failed. I must be missing something here, yet again the Council seem to be the target, but correct me if i'm wrong but i'm fairly sure they were fully in favour of demolishing the City Hall to create a public space / city square. Historic Scotland then got involved and that option was no longer available to the Council. they have tried over the last few years to continually push through the demolition only to be stopped at every stage. So now they relent to what the people of perth seemingly want, they look at the only 2 viable proposals for the building, not determined by them but by a 3rd party brought in to scrutinise the proposals thoroughly and rate them accordingly, which will then be presented to Councillors for consideration in early July. So I repeat, what exactly do you expect the COuncil to have done here that they have not already done? myDarlingBeefeater and Smarmy Arab 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickardo Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 So I repeat, what exactly do you expect the COuncil to have done here that they have not already done? Anything it can't be anything worse than it is the now, just get something done to the bloody thing before it actually falls down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldermoresensiblepack Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Anything it can't be anything worse than it is the now, just get something done to the bloody thing before it actually falls down. Best o luck wi' that then. St Paul's anybody? Standard operating procedure in Perth is ignore it and hope it collapses intae a skip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochwinnochsaintee Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Best o luck wi' that then. St Paul's anybody? Standard operating procedure in Perth is ignore it and hope it collapses intae a skip. A branch of the lade flows underneath it, so could happen sooner rather than later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 A branch of the lade flows underneath it, so could happen sooner rather than later! Feckin hope so, save the Cooncil further embarrassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Can the council do anything about St Paul's. It is privately owned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Can the council do anything about St Paul's. It is privately owned. Aye, apparently they can force them to prevent further delapidation or take steps themselves and bill the owners. Sure this is the case, but will bow to someones superior knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gussie Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Aye, apparently they can force them to prevent further delapidation or take steps themselves and bill the owners. Sure this is the case, but will bow to someones superior knowledge. Think something like this is happening in Scone with an underground burn that got blocked or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myDarlingBeefeater Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 I must be missing something here, yet again the Council seem to be the target, but correct me if i'm wrong but i'm fairly sure they were fully in favour of demolishing the City Hall to create a public space / city square. Historic Scotland then got involved and that option was no longer available to the Council. they have tried over the last few years to continually push through the demolition only to be stopped at every stage. So now they relent to what the people of perth seemingly want, they look at the only 2 viable proposals for the building, not determined by them but by a 3rd party brought in to scrutinise the proposals thoroughly and rate them accordingly, which will then be presented to Councillors for consideration in early July. So I repeat, what exactly do you expect the COuncil to have done here that they have not already done? Good post, lieutenant. There are plenty of things to moan about when it comes to the council but this isn't one of them. I really don't know what the "Somebody do something" whingers think the council have the power to do (Force the once a month market stall holders to open permanent stalls?). If it's such a great business prospect why has nobody put their own money into it yet? The same goes for St Pauls and that Scone drain. The council (i.e. you and I) shouldn't be paying for repairs and maintenance on behalf of irresponsible private owners. If and when they are forced to they'll probably face a long, expensive and uncertain fight to recoup the money. These situations aren't unique to Perth. tl;dr Knock the f*cking thing down already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Think something like this is happening in Scone with an underground burn that got blocked or something? I'll bow to your superior knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-johns-toun Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 st pauls, surprised its not fallen down the amount of times the letham/tulloch buses hit it when they used to go that way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 st pauls, surprised its not fallen down the amount of times the letham/tulloch buses hit it when they used to go that way! How many dead pigeons does it currently accommodate? Health and safety hazard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickardo Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Surprise surprise cooncil deferred sentence on the city hall till October, they really are an embarrassment . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Surprise surprise cooncil deferred sentence on the city hall till October, they really are an embarrassment . Beyond a joke. When are they going to do anything with the eyesores that are St Paul's & Waverley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODLUM65 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Beyond a joke. When are they going to do anything with the eyesores that are St Paul's & Waverley. Waverley up for sale again. Soutar never got his planning passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Waverley up for sale again. Soutar never got his planning passed. That is the problem,Perth's planning department. Can't imagine Soutar intended turning it into a whore house or something indiscrete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickardo Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 That is the problem,Perth's planning department. Can't imagine Soutar intended turning it into a whore house or something indiscrete. Mores the pity Cagey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) I read it's a 125 year lease.... how does this work in reality?A food market is a mistake if given the green light. It's been empty for a while, what's the rush all of a sudden. Hope the right decision is made, I'd just keep it empty and closed for the time being.. Edited October 7, 2015 by Dave H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Col Kojak Slaphead II Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) Didn't see this happening right enough......... http://www.pkc.gov.uk/12951Really now is time to knock it down and be done with it. Bloody shambles. Edited February 24, 2016 by Lt. Col Kojak Slaphead II ejksjfc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babychunder Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Well the councillors chose those guys as preferred bidder in the first place... Abernethy Saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Yes, this is spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fair Maid Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 That is the problem,Perth's planning department. Can't imagine Soutar intended turning it into a whore house or something indiscrete.pity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy rhodes fancy watch Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 The front pillars and steps moved to the other side of road opening onto a square (or rectangle to the pedants out there) and maybe even some kind of pillars or gateway from South St and from the High St. Giving it a grand entrance is what it needs. Perth sorely lacks character but this building is not fit for anything. Think we should take it upon ourselves to start the demolition. Everyone meet there on Sunday evening, bring your picks and hammers. Lt. Col Kojak Slaphead II 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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