Baldy Marc Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Just recieved this email from a local sports bar - http://micro.rileys-server.com/start/ShowHtml.asp?mi=5034-497712-213299:26059-668989060-4217215-0-33609&pp=0 Has there been a change to the law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryangordon86 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I've not checked the link but loads of pubs show games via foreign satellite tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldy Marc Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I've not checked the link but loads of pubs show games via foreign satellite tv Yup, I was aware that it happened but didn't think it was legal. For a company the size of Rileys to be shouting about showing them would suggest it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryangordon86 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I know there was a woman down south taking it very far through the courts. Maybe there's been a conclusion of sorts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopper Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I know there was a woman down south taking it very far through the courts. Maybe there's been a conclusion of sorts No conlusion to the case until 4 October. For those interested, you can search the news outlets for Karen Murphy and her European Court of Justice case info will appear. The Guardian and the Telegraph have been on top of the story the best from what I have seen of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryhallsdanceband Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 my golf club gets German Sky Sports (with the usual Sky commentators) for nowt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I was under the impression that under the test case mentioned above, it has been already been proved that pubs are within there rights to use whichever tv provider (in the EU) that they wished. I presume that the judgement on the 4th of Oct is some kind of appeal against the original judgement? It's all above board if the first judgment is anything to go by. I noticed that the pub that I went to near Hampden prior to the Lithuania game had Irish Sky tv, presumably for that purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryangordon86 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Loads of pubs in Edinburgh have foreign tv. It's more and more common, what with the cost of Sky in pubs and clubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chips Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Remember the Mallard bar got fined summat like £15,000 for showing games through the al-Jazeera channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryhallsdanceband Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 My golf club ditched the Sky annual pub/club subscription (£6k) and we get a reasonable feed of Sky Sports - golf and footie - for diddly squat I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Madrid Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 So maybe this why the SPL are trying out Friday night football this season. If there is a free for all at 3pm crowds will just get worse and Scottish football will be in a death spiral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstu Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 I was in a bar in Aberdeen on Saturday who were showing 3 different games. The manager says they are showing foreign feeds, and their solicitor says it is legit! They had posters advertising it everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhs Posted September 28, 2011 Report Share Posted September 28, 2011 Fair trade / EU for just now i believe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wish i was Joe McGurn Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 Not as if the murdochs can complain about anything illegal with their track record recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilgour Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 There are two issues here. Pubs who showed "Sky sports " on dodgy boxes were prosecuted and fined by Sky for loss of revenue. Pubs using foreign feeds were threatened by EPL etc for what they thought was breach of copyright. What MAY happen if court case goes right way is pubs will be able to show matches legit on foreign feeds but Sky wont be allowed to broadcast in this country. Pure greed by Sky and the football authorities have created this monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhs Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Update on the ladlady from down south - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15162241 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryhallsdanceband Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 My golf club ditched the Sky annual pub/club subscription (£6k) and we get a reasonable feed of Sky Sports - golf and footie - for diddly squat I believe. I've discovered we get it from German Sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/oct/04/premier-league-tv-coverage up date in the guardian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stamford Saintee Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Foreign TV stations broadcast SPL games at 3pm on Saturdays too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I, for one, wouldn't care if there were no live games on telly at all*. Happy enough with either going to watch live football or settling for highlights (*exceptions would be domestic finals and things like World Cup) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garydavidson Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Foreign TV stations broadcast SPL games at 3pm on Saturdays too. Yep, anyone outside of the UK does including Irealnd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY5565 Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I know there was a woman down south taking it very far through the courts. Maybe there's been a conclusion of sorts European courts...she won her case. U.K. will have to conform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevensan Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 er, not really. While she was proved to be right in that Sky and the EPL can't stop you from watching via a subscription purchased abroad, there was quite a few BUTS to the ruling. It was ruled that there is a difference between purchasing it for personal use and for a public audience. While it was ruled that the EPL can't hold copyright over the game itself, it can over any 'non game' related images, such as music, opening sequences, commentary and any in game graphics displaying branding, advertising or stats. So while a pub could legally and legitimately screen the game itself, the EPL could prevent them from showing any EPL owned content such as branding etc. This basically makes it impossible to show to a public audience (eg, in a pub). I would put this down as a win for the EPL and SKY and a big loss for other regional content such as region locked DVD's etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myDarlingBeefeater Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Well observed, Stevensan. When the EPL renegotiate their current deals in a couple of years time all loopholes will simply be closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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