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[HOODLUM65]

As part of the SPFL board (since last year and having previously served on the Board) Robertson had plenty of time to raise any concerns during their Board meetings if he thought things were not right .

Did he just turn up and stay stuum?

[HOODLUM65]

Appears that the 200 sheets of loo paper was not up to standard and was quickly flushed away.

[sixties saintee]

Wont be happy the way things went the day then.

[HOODLUM65]

59 minutes ago, sixties saintee said:

Wont be happy the way things went the day then.

I finally find something we agree on.

[sixties saintee]

2 hours ago, HOODLUM65 said:

I finally find something we agree on.

jeez will have to stop that.

[south inch]

I see Rangers* now say they will pay for the Independent Enquiry if it is approved on Tuesday.  Is that not a form of coercion?  You know, like what they are complaining about.

Also, is that what is regarded at Ayebroke as an Independent Enquiry?

[Abernethy Saint]

2 hours ago, south inch said:

I see Rangers* now say they will pay for the Independent Enquiry if it is approved on Tuesday.  Is that not a form of coercion?  You know, like what they are complaining about.

Also, is that what is regarded at Ayebroke as an Independent Enquiry?

 

[HOODLUM65]

Surely Ayebroke must have known that they had NO CHANCE of getting the vote passed.

Hence their promise to PAY for an independent enquiry had their request been successful. 

However, don't think they will let it rest.

[Indicator]

You could be right, it seems to be 'Statement o'clock' again.

Here is the ending of the communique.

"...A management culture which not only fears accountability and scrutiny, but which actively campaigns against it, is unhealthy and breeds continued mistrust. This culture, so deeply embedded, must be addressed if Scottish football is to flourish.

It is clear that many members have lost confidence in the SPFL leadership and the need for change will not diminish.

The status quo cannot hold".

They're going down and intend to take Scottish football with them.

[south inch]

59 minutes ago, HOODLUM65 said:

Surely Ayebroke must have known that they had NO CHANCE of getting the vote passed.

Hence their promise to PAY for an independent enquiry had their request been successful. 

However, don't think they will let it rest.

Not so sure H, what can they do?  Unlike Hearts or Partick Thistle they don't have a specific grievance.  They can't go to Court and demand the league be played out.  Nor could they air their real concern - don't want Celtic to be declared champions!

Its possible that Douglas Park, who is not short of a bob or two, could go to Court on some of the personal stuff.  Even if he loses it will still keep the deluded onside and buying season tickets.

I still wonder if indeed this is not what their motive has been all along.  They usually come up with some gimmick at this time - significant new investment on the horizon, a decent signing or "we are not allowing more than a token number of Celtic fans into Old Firm games at Ayebroke".

[sixties saintee]

13 hours ago, south inch said:

Not so sure H, what can they do?  Unlike Hearts or Partick Thistle they don't have a specific grievance.  They can't go to Court and demand the league be played out.  Nor could they air their real concern - don't want Celtic to be declared champions!

Its possible that Douglas Park, who is not short of a bob or two, could go to Court on some of the personal stuff.  Even if he loses it will still keep the deluded onside and buying season tickets.

I still wonder if indeed this is not what their motive has been all along.  They usually come up with some gimmick at this time - significant new investment on the horizon, a decent signing or "we are not allowing more than a token number of Celtic fans into Old Firm games at Ayebroke".

Hopefully they do fund it and it costs a pretty penny tick tock.

[Abernethy Saint]

I don’t think Rangers* have any other motives than: 

1/ Playing to their Neanderthal and ever gullible fan base, who are being asked to fork out for ST, for membership of some dodgy Founders Club or something that provides almost no real benefits, and no doubt shortly for a bail-out.

2/ Continuing their desperate struggle for relevance as a “national institution” (for which read preserving Protestant hegemony) in a world where most folk couldn’t give a feck if Rangers* lived or died or what church anybody else doesn’t go to.

It’s pathetic, as are the almost daily ridiculous statements, full of bumptious exaggeration and pretendy indignity. 

Quite entertaining, though.

[Abernethy Saint]

Very good explanation of the Orcs’ motivation here.

http://archive.is/rPsBR

[blueheaven]

51 minutes ago, Abernethy Saint said:

Very good explanation of the Orcs’ motivation here.

http://archive.is/rPsBR

Not sure what site that is but when I tried clicking on it I got a few warnings from my anti-virus software.

[Abernethy Saint]

29 minutes ago, blueheaven said:

Not sure what site that is but when I tried clicking on it I got a few warnings from my anti-virus software.

It’s the archive of the Forbes website, kosher I’m pretty sure. Writer is a pwoppa journalist.

[Cagey]

6 hours ago, Abernethy Saint said:

Very good explanation of the Orcs’ motivation here.

http://archive.is/rPsBR

Good article & covers it well. Nothing has changed since 1970. Ian Archer was a good journo.

Sevco really are an embarrassment to Scotland & their fans. Problem is their fans are more of an embarrassment. They are talking of boycotting away grounds. That worked well in the past,not.

Hopefully this time they stay away. The further the better. In the Atlantic, hopefully.

[sixties saintee]

23 minutes ago, Cagey said:

Good article & covers it well. Nothing has changed since 1970. Ian Archer was a good journo.

Sevco really are an embarrassment to Scotland & their fans. Problem is their fans are more of an embarrassment. They are talking of boycotting away grounds. That worked well in the past,not.

Hopefully this time they stay away. The further the better. In the Atlantic, hopefully.

What they say and what they do is never the same

[south inch]

7 hours ago, Abernethy Saint said:

Very good explanation of the Orcs’ motivation here.

http://archive.is/rPsBR

Great article, thought the Titanic analogy was hilarious.

[Cagey]

£5 million on Hagi when they are £11 million in debt. Will they ever learn ?.

I know he was playing at McDiarmid but don't think I remember him doing anything.

If he worth £5 million then I don't know what McCann is worth.

 

[sixties saintee]

5 minutes ago, Cagey said:

£5 million on Hagi when they are £11 million in debt. Will they ever learn ?.

I know he was playing at McDiarmid but don't think I remember him doing anything.

If he worth £5 million then I don't know what McCann is worth.

 

If it's not your money why worry

[Indicator]

I think he's thinking.... how can they keep getting away with it.

And the SFA will still pass them FFP compliant to play in Europa League.

Edited May 24, 2020 by Indicator

[Cagey]

On 5/24/2020 at 5:12 PM, Cagey said:

£5 million on Hagi when they are £11 million in debt. Will they ever learn ?.

I know he was playing at McDiarmid but don't think I remember him doing anything.

If he worth £5 million then I don't know what McCann is worth.

 

Now paying £3 million at £1 a week until they go bust.

[blueheaven]

30 minutes ago, Cagey said:

Now paying £3 million at £1 a week until they go bust.

And yet again, as far as I can tell, all of the Scottish media are quite happily reporting on this without ever thinking to question how a club in that financial situation can possibly afford a transfer fee of that size.

[Indicator]

1 hour ago, blueheaven said:

And yet again, as far as I can tell, all of the Scottish media are quite happily reporting on this without ever thinking to question how a club in that financial situation can possibly afford a transfer fee of that size.

You would think that, at the very least, someone would raise a question regarding where all this money is coming from. It's all very well an unnamed entity at the club releasing a statement saying that it is being covered by existing investors but... no details.

Concerns have also been raised in some quarters that no Ibrox interim financial statement has been released publicly this year. Such a statement needs to meet UEFA FFP criteria in order that a club receives a licence to participate in their competitions. Sadly it appears that UEFA do not actually view these statements. It is left up to the club's home association to assess whether a club meets the required criteria.

Does anyone really think that the SFA would have the nerve to deny them participation even if FFP hasn't been met.

Just after the 2012 fiasco the SFA stated that lessons had been learned and they would shortly be publishing the accounts of all clubs on their website in order to dispel such suspicion and to provide transparency. Eight years on and the suspicion of sleight of hand concerning one particular club continues.

Edited May 27, 2020 by Indicator

[Indicator]

Belay my last... It appears the SFA had prior knowledge. 

European football's governing body is set to relax Financial Fair Play regulations 
UEFA has extended the deadline for 'undue payables' from March 31 to April 30 
Principle of 'force majeure', meaning greater force, will be taken into account.