stanley saint Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 i never watched the game, sounds like i missed nothing apart from the last 2 mins. well done muzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windross180 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 brilliant work, well deserved hopefully 1st of many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panicfc Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Does this mean Murray will gain automatic entry into the "hall of fame" ? Davidsons own the "Hall of Fame", so I think he is a lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scobby_SJFC Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Hopefully that will add a few quid onto his market value Dr Christmas Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Hopefully that will add a few quid onto his market value Or knock a bit off. if you're good enough for Scotland.......just how good are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryangordon86 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Hopefully that will add a few quid onto his market value He's free to go this summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 He's free to go this summer Yeah. Really not looking forward to January. Wait and see what quality 2div teams down South can pay more than we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remberbuck Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Happy, happy, happy. Estonia will be trembling in their snow boots. But, let's hope that it's not a heading chance after a 25 yard run ... Superb achievement. I hope he is tremendously pleased with himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carse of Gowrie Saint Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I had left the ground just before the end of the game gutted that Muzz hadn't got on when I heard the chant of 'oh Murray Murray'. Ran back up to watch the last few minutes and I can now proudly say I was there when a saintee played for Scotland. SingaporeSaint and 541ntees 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panicfc Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Any other pictures of Muzz's fantastic performance out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The shoogly peg Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman/sport/luxembourg-v-scotland-how-scotland-players-rated-1-2633647 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan loves saints Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 saints need to give muzza a new 3 year contract asap SaintDougie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiangsu Sainty Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 http://www.scotsman....rated-1-2633647 That article got my blood boiling. Had to comment my displeasure, doubt anyone will answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy Johnston Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 That article got my blood boiling. Had to comment my displeasure, doubt anyone will answer Agreed. Pointlessly negative approach to writing. I recall the commentator saying that his first touch was a brilliant pass out wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstar101 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 It has been a pet hate of mine for a long time that subs get low marks out of 10 just because they come on late in the game. They should be marked on what they did whilst on the pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 saints need to give muzza a new 3 year contract asap Someone said he's out of contract next summer. Very sadly therefore the best and most likely scenario all round is we get a few hundred grand in the January sales, and use the cash to continue to keep the club financially stable, and help keep the rest of the squad togethr, or even improve it. Would be delighted if anyone could show keeping him is viable - that would mean minimum £5 - £10k a week,surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panicfc Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 What kind of money is he on now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rik2304 Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 A load of clubs will be sniffing about this Jan. Unless he utterly loves Saints and Lomas with every fibre of his being he'll be off. Probably down to England and a good Saints offer wont even compare slightly. On the plus side it wont be to the Dark Side with Sevco Cheat FC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 What kind of money is he on now? Pounds Sterling. At a guess, given all appearance money, bonuses etc, less than 50k a year, and quite possibly less than 40k, which is a disgrace. That's not a criticism of the club. Have many of you haveconsidered that you probably take home more than some Saints players you scream at cos a 50 yard pass was 2 inches short? I only say that cos the Beloved does, almost every night........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panicfc Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Is that £50k about average for the SPL other than Celtic? is that about average for St Johnstone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancientsaint Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Money talks - IF a decent offer comes in the club would be daft to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abernethy Saint Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Is that £50k about average for the SPL other than Celtic? is that about average for St Johnstone? Mate, I'm totally guessing. My guess would be that's probably more than almost all the Saints team, and that probably most other SPL teams pay more. I would guess that the max a Saints player can earn is around 2 times average wage in this country - say, fiftyk. Obviouslycertain players would be on more, and obviously if they won a cup it would increase vastly. I have a suspicion it's less at Saints, and a lot, lot less ifyou're on the margins of the sqad. A decent tradesman in Scotland could beat that. Footy wages are very difficult to estimate, because they are so appearance - results etc - depandant. The point I want to make is that, when the 18 year old fecks up a pass, obviously criticise, but bear in mind he might be earning half what you are.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panicfc Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Mate, I'm totally guessing. My guess would be that's probably more than almost all the Saints team, and that probably most other SPL teams pay more. I would guess that the max a Saints player can earn is around 2 times average wage in this country - say, fiftyk. Obviouslycertain players would be on more, and obviously if they won a cup it would increase vastly. I have a suspicion it's less at Saints, and a lot, lot less ifyou're on the margins of the sqad. A decent tradesman in Scotland could beat that. Footy wages are very difficult to estimate, because they are so appearance - results etc - depandant. The point I want to make is that, when the 18 year old fecks up a pass, obviously criticise, but bear in mind he might be earning half what you are.... Thanks for clarifying. I was listening to one of the podcasts and Tam McManus was on, who now plays for the Rochester Rhinos of the USL (US 3rd division). I'm not positive, but I'm guessing he makes close to, or maybe more than Muzz does. Plus the lower taxes in the US, lower cost of living (probably 5-10%), plus I'm guessing Tam probably does some youth coaching or clinics and makes a bit more on the side. Figure Aberdeen, Hibs, Hearts, Dundee United all pay more, but the rest are probably in that range (basing this on attendance). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Saintee Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Pounds Sterling. At a guess, given all appearance money, bonuses etc, less than 50k a year, and quite possibly less than 40k, which is a disgrace. That's not a criticism of the club. Have many of you haveconsidered that you probably take home more than some Saints players you scream at cos a 50 yard pass was 2 inches short? I only say that cos the Beloved does, almost every night........ Wait what? You think it's a disgrace that a relatively young professional football player only earns 40-50k a year?? Why would he be on any more?? Kevin James Is On Stilts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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