Center Half Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 This could be a intriguing discussion between SB and ST, The two family's are long standing friends away from their respected clubs and will have probably had discussions on this type of situation before not necessary about dealing with each other but as onlookers at other situations, This may well have showed their hands on how they will negotiate their corner, still think it will depend on TW, SB should by now know what TW is thinking about the United situation, also having went through it before with Lomas who was desperate to move on at the first chance available and also Saints were reasonably happy for him to move on and get a bit of compensation as well, SB I believe is in a strong negotiating position this time especially if he knows TW is not making noises about jumping ship and would resign to get his wishes of the move through. If there is no pre agreed compensation in the contract already then SB will be asking for a Huge compensation fee, I would imagine as he will have an Idea what ST would go to. Another thought I have kicking around is the Part SB/ Saints played in the Jackie sacking making a office available right away and allowing such a decision to be played out so openly on their premises, SB must have know that if Jackie Boy was getting punted TW would be in the running so why make things look so amiable between the clubs, or has he used it already to remind TW what type of a club and Chairman that is to work for? All will unfold in the next few days I presume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livi saint Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I would be disappointed in Steve Brown and the rest of the board if Tommy was allowed to leave for less than £1m, regardless of where it was too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brogan Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Another thought I have kicking around is the Part SB/ Saints played in the Jackie sacking making a office available right away and allowing such a decision to be played out so openly on their premises, SB must have know that if Jackie Boy was getting punted TW would be in the running so why make things look so amiable between the clubs, or has he used it already to remind TW what type of a club and Chairman that is to work for? All will unfold in the next few days I presume. Doubt it was that premeditated. If Saints had lost against United and lost again on Sat, we'd be struggling in the relegation area. I don't think Wright would have been acceptable to United fans then. The raging momentum behind Wright has really come because of three good results in a row. Cagey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Doubt it was that premeditated. If Saints had lost against United and lost again on Sat, we'd be struggling in the relegation area. I don't think Wright would have been acceptable to United fans then. The raging momentum behind Wright has really come because of three good results in a row. and yet for the vast majority of last season we were playing badly and were poor to watch, very poor. We lost games we could've done better in if we actually played.this season we had a few injuries but have now started to play very well. But this has taken time to build up to.dont see united with the potential we have comparing squads right now. Who knows what could happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Does not seem long ago that TW said he wanted to stay with Saints "Long Term" .! maybe long term is how long is a piece of string nowadays.!? Steve Brown gave him his chance to be an Scottish top flight manager. No doubt he is thankful for that opportunity,and it has worked out for everyone so far.! Long may it continue.! When he goes I sincerely hope it is an ambitious move and not to a team that treat their staff with utter contempt and sack them at the ground of a local rival.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 The Official Site has gone eerily quiet !! Not even the Aberdeen match report posted I have a bad feeling about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Nothing we can say or do except wait....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizfit Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 United make approach. If if he goes I blame Ghostie for giving me false hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Sky now reporting that Dundee United have made an official approach to Saints. Bring it on bitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizfit Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I can't stand Stephen Thomson. ****ing prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilgour Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Well Mr.Brown have you got a pair ? Politely decline and move on....If on the other hand TW wants to go there ( not sure about that ) then its up to SB to screw Utd for the max.Please stay TW and keep the progression going.Who knows SB might even give you a rise ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizfit Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Balhousie Blue 1884, Kilgour, Cleveland-Saint and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin James Is On Stilts Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Top marks Broon. Exactly what was needed. Highland Saintee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Well done Steve Brown, if you stick to that line then you have indeed rocketed up in my estimation. However, there is always the 'vote of confidence' niggle. Was it Friday that Brenda Rodgers said 'he is under no pressure re. his position' But somehow I still feel that things are different with Saints. If there was any question of TW going to DU, then there is no way on earth SB would have made this statement IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Nice one Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Well done The Chairman and what a legend/hero that Mr Thomas Wright is turning in to. If somebody asked me.... Willie Ormond or Tommy Wright, I would refuse to answer and just melt inside that we have been lucky enough to have been managed by two such admired people. I hope we can pay TW back by getting a few extra through the turnstiles. Feck we are presently only three points away from third spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooj Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I dont think this statement tells us anything of importance. If Steve Brown said *anything* that could be construed as suggesting that Tommy might be leaving (however that might come about) it would put the club at serious risk of being seen to breach TW's employment contract. Employers cant go around undermining their employees when there is a contract in place or it could be seen as constructive dismissal. All a club can do is reiterate the terms of that contract ie he is here until 2017. It may well be the case that TW has no plans to move on or it may be that he is tempted to consider a move but there is nothing in SB's statement that reassures me either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthensSaint Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I dont think this statement tells us anything of importance. If Steve Brown said *anything* that could be construed as suggesting that Tommy might be leaving (however that might come about) it would put the club at serious risk of being seen to breach TW's employment contract. Employers cant go around undermining their employees when there is a contract in place or it could be seen as constructive dismissal. All a club can do is reiterate the terms of that contract ie he is here until 2017. It may well be the case that TW has no plans to move on or it may be that he is tempted to consider a move but there is nothing in SB's statement that reassures me either way.Pessimist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t.mcneil99 Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I love that this a lovely polite way of saying, " oi dundee utd, f*ck off" dunkeldneil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex-montrosesaintee Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I dont think this statement tells us anything of importance. If Steve Brown said *anything* that could be construed as suggesting that Tommy might be leaving (however that might come about) it would put the club at serious risk of being seen to breach TW's employment contract. Employers cant go around undermining their employees when there is a contract in place or it could be seen as constructive dismissal. All a club can do is reiterate the terms of that contract ie he is here until 2017. It may well be the case that TW has no plans to move on or it may be that he is tempted to consider a move but there is nothing in SB's statement that reassures me either way.True, but given that he clearly knows he has been criticised by fans over the last few years, why would he say anything at all if he were open to doing the opposite? Surely silence would be the best policy for him if there were the faintest chance of him letting DU speak to TW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cagey Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Says in Courier that Brown wants to talk compensation before he would allow them to talk to TW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Nothing of importance? regardless of any approach and any level of compensation that might be offered, it will be flatly turned down. That looks pretty important to me! rik2304 and R.B.B:- Adz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunkeldneil Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Does not seem long ago that TW said he wanted to stay with Saints "Long Term" .! maybe long term is how long is a piece of string nowadays.!? Steve Brown gave him his chance to be an Scottish top flight manager. No doubt he is thankful for that opportunity,and it has worked out for everyone so far.! Long may it continue.! When he goes I sincerely hope it is an ambitious move and not to a team that treat their staff with utter contempt and sack them at the ground of a local rival.! I also remember stevie may saying the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dooj Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 True, but given that he clearly knows he has been criticised by fans over the last few years, why would he say anything at all if he were open to doing the opposite? Surely silence would be the best policy for him if there were the faintest chance of him letting DU speak to TWI suspect that SB is just trying to put himself in a win-win situation. If TW moves on to DUtd it will be because TW wants to go and SB can hold his hands up and say that he did everything possible to keep TW. It also puts Saints in a stronger position because they haven't been pushing TW towards the door - any compensation due would, I hope, be greater than if they had indicated that they were 'willing sellers'.FWIW, I would love TW to stay but I also appreciate that all good things come to an end. I have lost faith in loyalty, logic or common sense being key factors in football decision making (when it comes to management issues) - it is nearly all about money nowadays and despite all the 'insider knowledge' claimed on here, I don't think we have a realistic impression of what TW earns or what the bonus structure is like. Most of the speculation is miles off the mark - remember Saints only turnover, I believe, in the region of £4million a year (might be a bit more than that but even so, not that much in the scheme of things). Despite recent successes, money hasn't been flooding into the club so while I would be disappointed if TW moved on, the realities are that he is a saleable asset to Saints, like any player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Saintee Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I think we can probably ignore todays press peddling their column fillers now, HOODLUM65 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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